Subject: 12-1 Comments and Questions From: mork@blake.u.washington.edu (David Mork) Date: 1990-12-02, 15:24 Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks [I am posting this from my brother's account... It was posted once but it didn't seem to go through the net... reply to jmork@plains.nodak.edu] 12/1 Comments evolving from the four of us on our weekly Twin Peaks party: 1. Did anyone else think of "The Untouchables" (Costner-Connery...) when the four men were walking abreast in long coats? 2. Does anyone think that *DICK* holding a long *erect* cigarette and asking Andy for a light which he didn't have as foreshadowing to a fact that Lucy was not impregnated by Andy? 3. Does anyone have any speculation as to who >THEY< are (as refered to by Bob before triggering Leland's "suicide") ? Evil in general... The Devil and his angels... etc... 4. I was afraid Donna was toast too. I got the impression of the ambiguous hazy scene of Donna as another step closer to Laura, especially in light of the sunglasses incident. 5. Senor Drool Cup's "That gum you like is going to come back in style" and the appearance of the giant/"we need one more" is definite proof of the SDC/giant connection. I also thought the pretext of LelaBob's mad gum chewing intriguing. 6. What can be said of the non-existant grandmother and Harold's suicide note coinciding with the Boy Magician (BM's? :-)) French statement. 7. I think "the owls" had a double meaning. The obvious was Leland's hooting. The slightly less obvious was the last frame of the episode. I infer from this that owls act as non-human interim hosts between humans. I don't know that it has been made clear that Bob is locked in a human until death. THE OWLS ARE NOT WHAT THEY SEEM means THEY ARE HOSTS FOR EVIL SPIRITS IN INTERIM. 8. The reference to "remember that knife in Pittsburgh" may mean that Coop has dealt with Bob before, but this may negate the theory that Bob has dwelt in Leland since his youth, because Cooper could not have been an agent since age 0 (Kyle M. is in real life about 31 and Ray... ? 45-50?) If both cases are true, Bob may be able to switch hosts at will rather than at the death of the host. Even if the knife incident was in Cooper's youth, Leland's youth would have occured before. 9. Cooper's ushering of Leland into the netherworld was a bit silly to me. I don't know how much significance it had. 10. James' comments to Donna seemed a little strange when he left her alone. 11. Bob isn't a very good candidate for the big brother program... He is a pretty nasty guy. 12. Because the average viewer doesn't have the collective intellect and synergy of this newsgroup, I think that we have a definite "one up" on the average viewer. Few stones are left unturned, and few producers should expect such scrutiny unless their goal is the cult market represented by our collective and others like us. Shows are made for money and ratings--mass appeal. Because of the ultimate scrutinization by this group and the pieces falling together in 12-1, I think it is obvious that Leo will be the next host for Bob... I think Bobby may have numbered days... although new characters should be arriving soon to replace all of the bodies... 13. I was impressed with the many predictions that came true. Coop gets his ring back... many others all fit together, but they escape me at the moment. I think it can be assumed after this episode that Bob really grooves to 40's and 50's music. 14. Has Bob inhabited Wyndom Earle (sp) ? 15. I would really like to see a point-counterpoint discussion of previous clues (and inferences that might have been made) regarding all of the previous episodes. If people who have videotaped the whole thing could show the significance of certain things in the past that seemed insignificant at the time but have become important through the airing of this episode, I would find that very enlightening. James Mork jmork@plains.nodak.edu