Subject: Tangent about why TV listings are wrong From: barb@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Barb Miller) Date: 1991-04-25, 08:11 Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Reply-to: barb@zurich.ai.mit.edu This started as an e-mail message that bounced. My apologies if this is unnecessary net-clutter: In response to: jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer)... You recently wrote: I'd say someone screwed up again. Or actually just followed their normal practice of putting the things together about three weeks in advance. But I'd call that screwing up. In this age of computers, there is NO conceivable excuse in my philosophy for such a long lead time. Yes, we all know about how wonderful computers are. In fact, most large newspapers have been in the "age of computers" since the mid to late 1970's, which is when their systems date from. Having spent a number of years working for a company (Atex) that built many of those systems and consequently visited a number of newspaper sites, I can offer a few words of explanation, which may not count as an excuse to you. Do these TV listings have color pages? Those neat graphic prime-time-at-a-glance pages that show a whole evening? With the composition languages available on the older publishing systems, TV listings are complicated enough to do that they are actually laid out by hand at many papers, making the TV page in a daily, along with the comics, one of the few pages that are not automated. Having color requires a special print run when the presses aren't being used for the daily spewing out of normal pages on deadline. Either that or all the color is sent out and done somewhere else, along with the advertising inserts and the comic pages. Why don't they do something about this? It's just not cost effective. If only a tiny percentage of what goes into those listings is likely to change in a week or two, and those changes can be corrected in a daily paper for the evening in question (not that it always is, granted), newspapers can't justify the expense of tying up their systems (or their composing rooms) which are on deadline for other issues of the paper in order to avoid those few discrepancies. Why don't they modernize their systems? Well, they're starting to, but not everything they need is there yet, and they're very squeezed for advertising revenue, being in competition with CNN and all, so they're holding off, or putting their efforts into using their computers to direct their advertising into specific zones of the area they serve, etc., or putting in more highly designed, early-run pages (like the Food Section) to help them compete with magazines. I don't know whether this is an excuse or not, but I hope it explains it. Barb Miller