Subject: Re: Some thoughts on the finale... From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria) Date: 1991-06-11, 16:06 Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Reply-to: ingria@BBN.COM In article joe@zitt (Joe Zitt) writes: The MFAP said that he'd show up again as someone else -- who? What he said was closer to: ``When you see me again, it won't be me.'' I think that what he meant was that each successive apearance of the LMFAP was merely someone who looked like him: doppelgangers (und treppelgangers, usw). Note that this happens with Laura. The first Laura we see, who says she won't see Cooper for 25 years, has clear eyes, while Laura/Bob, has glazed eyes. This seems to be a distinguishing mark of the doppelgangers. Also, the only Leland we see has glazed eyes, and the anti-Cooper also has glazed eyes. Still, the whole XXX Lodge sequence leaves open the question of what happened to those who have died and exactly whose side the supernatural entities are playing on---except for Bob, of course, who remains unchanging in his Bobhood. Seems like we were right in guessing that the Waiter and the Giant were the same. Well, there seem to be two strains of interpretation here about what the Giant's ``One and the same'' means: (1) Since we see the Waiter bring the coffee and the Giant go back, it is the Waiter and the Giant that are ``One and the same''. (This is what I took it to mean.) (2) Since the Giant says ``One and the same'' as he sits down beside the LMFAP, he means that the two of them are ``One and the same''. I personally disfavor this, although I did think, when I saw the two of them sitting side by side that this answered Albert's question to Coop about the Giant: ``Any relation to the dwarf?'' Goddamn deictic statements where the speakers don't deict properly! Was that Laura reflected in the coffee cup in the end titles? Yes. Her reflection starts out unfocussed and becomes clearer. If you watch closely, you can see her wink. I had a frightening moment watching the image come up; while the image of was still sort of fuzzy, I thought it was Bob reflected in the cup, which would have really depressed me no end. Did Doc kill Ben, or merely injure him? I hadn't thought he killed him. Isn't the wound on Ben's forehead in the same place as Cooper's when he smashes his head into the mirror. (In fact, the Doc and Ben scene reminded me of the Leland and Maddy scene, in this one respect.) -30- Bob ``You make us all look like primates.''