Subject: Re: Some thoughts on the finale... From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (Chris Tavares) Date: 1991-06-14, 14:49 Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks In article <2800@calmasd.Prime.COM>, jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski) writes: > > It seems to me the two are the same. "Entering" a Lodge consists > > of a change in one's perceptive faculties. I.e. the Lodges are not *places*; > > they are right here and it's only a change inside you that lets you > > experience them while the ordinary world seems to have disappeared. > > Presumably for a person who is sufficiently "developed" this change > > in perception can be effected by an act of will. "Normal" people > > and "normal" occult beings cannot do that unless the configuration > > of some "ambient" energies makes such a change of perception particularly > > easy (this happens when Jupiter and Saturn meet). Here we go again -- this is too reminiscent of all the arguments about "is there really a BOB or is Leland just psychotic?" Lynch seems to have been careful to damage any point of view that tries to claim that any of this is hallucinatory, psychotic, or any other sort of mental figment. > > The question of "but where did their material bodies go while > > in the 'waiting room'?" is not very important. Maybe people who are > > near are also affected by some kind of light trance. Real far-fetched. It got Dale, Andy, and Truman, and they saw everything in the circle except Windom, Annie, and Dale, including the braining of Annie? > > I suppose when you are in the waiting room (and I am inclined > > to think we haven't seen the Lodges themselves yet) -- or when you > > are in the equivalent state of consciousness -- you are able to see > > the good and bad components as *separate beings*, not unified as usual. > > It is only a mode of perception that doesn't necessarily correspond > > to an "objective truth". So Laura is one Laura but she is manifest > > as two beings -- while Coop/whoever is in that state. Coop himself > > becomes two Coops (or so it seems to him) and while in this state > > the two sides can fight for the territory. > > The presence of Laura, Leland, and Maddy in the waiting room/lodge argues against this, since those being are no longer around to inspect in any explainable state of consciousness short of complete fantasy. Sure, Coop could be imagining them, but now the "believable explanation" for the otherwise "unbelievable" Black Lodge is fast becoming equally unbelievable. My take on all this is that Lynch is not using the Black Lodge INSIDE THE SHOW as a metaphor for anything else. In the show, it is real. Now artistically, he can certainly be using it as a metaphor, just as he can be using the town of Twin Peaks as a metaphor. But inside the town of Twin Peaks, the Lodges are real. -- cdt@pdp.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...