Subject: Later Episodes? (was Debating Ratings) From: barb@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Barb Miller) Date: 1991-09-01, 07:42 Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Reply-to: barb@zurich.ai.mit.edu In article <1991Sep1.071723.13793@risky.ecs.umass.edu> giovin@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes: In article <1991Aug31.203653.1117@ulkyvx.bitnet> cksvih01@ulkyvx.bitnet writes: >They should have ended the >series after Leland's death, the quality of the late episodes wasn't up to >the earlier snuff. That's your opinion and it's wrong! :) You forgot to write "IMHO"-- the idea that TP should have ended here is probably not the consensus of this group. Just to see if I can get some talk going here, I would like to say something about the White Lodge/Black Lodge story that built up after the death of Leland. While I would not make a statement that "they should have ended the series after Leland's death", I do remember thinking when it became clear that they were going to focus on the Lodges that the show was in over its head, and for me that story never had the epic sense that a story like that has in some of the literature and mythology which has also treated it. I realize I risk being flamed unmercifully, so I am trying to tread carefully here. I don't really have time to carefully analyze just why it might have fallen short for me, but a few possibilities include: 1. That there was not a single writer or perhaps even a strong individual creative vision by that time which could carry the theme through. 2. That Lynch's talent for showing quirky characters and bizarre everyday details of life fit much better into showing how all the members of a small town could be tied in with the death of its homecoming queen than into an epic and rather abstract story like the Lodges. 3. That it was never clear whether the Lodges were psychological (the confrontation of the Dream Souls), spiritual (concentrating on the Souls rather than the Dream), or moral (basic good/evil dichotomy), so it never could completely treat any of these. 4. (Discussed earlier on the net) That showing so much of Windom Earle to the audience in some way diminished his power, compared with BOB, who remained a mystery all the way through. 5. That I almost never watch TV so I am not able to really evaluate the medium realistically--there may have been things going on that I missed because I have more of a literary and psychological approach to things than is perhaps appropriate for TV. 6. That the subplots didn't fit in as well with the main Lodge story as the earlier subplots fit with the Laura Palmer story. (i.e. it was easier to see Harold Smith or One-Eyed Jack's in the context of "there is a dark and mysterious side to this seemingly idyllic small town" than to accept Little Nicky or Evelyn Marsh or Audrey's love affair as being intimately tied in with the Black Lodge or White Lodge) Anyway, I would very much like to hear what other people think of this. What did people particularly like about the Lodge story? I should hasten to point out that I watched Twin Peaks with interest through to the end, and I was very glad that they were even ATTEMPTING such a theme. But I'm trying to figure out why it is that I feel as though it never quite managed to live up to the theme's possibilities in the way that it brilliantly treated the murder. Flame away..."Fire, walk with me." Barb Miller