Subject: Mrs Tremond and The Possessions (was Re: questions about Mrs Tremond)
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Date: 1992-10-12, 23:18
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks

In article <1992Oct13.001136.7919@nntp.uoregon.edu>, rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller) writes...
> >In article <BvzGBz.Ko0@acsu.buffalo.edu> Scott J Gorcey,
> >v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>> >>     My idea is that Mrs Tremond (the old woman) is the host.
>> >>     Her "grandson" is the same as BOB, MIKE and The Giant - an
>> >>     inhabbiting spirit.

> >I'm not prepared to say the the grandson is an inhabiting spirit, but he
> >does appear to be a magician.  The MFAP and he both rub their hands and
> >do magic tricks.  So does the Giant/SDC.  So it would appear that there
> >are indeed three different instances of the same general type.

     Yes, they're the same general type, but there are three
     different purposes: Leland/BOB introduces us to the type,
     without revealing much (BOB is scary).  Senor Droolcup and
     The Giant tell us more about the possession - it shows
     the man as separate from the "inhabbiting spirit."

     Gerard/MIKE reveal a lot more: Coop - and we - have been shown
     the scariness of Leland/BOB, been given a little more knowledge
     with the foreshadowing of The Giant by Senor Droolcup...  This
     is the first time in Twin Peaks (when Coop interrogates Mike,
     episode before Maddie is killed) that Coop, or anyone, actively
     seeks answers from one of the spirits - in other words, they've
     hauled in someone who actually KNEW the killer for the first time,
     except that the killer is an alien (of sorts).

> >However, note that there are some differences here. The old woman and her
> >grandson always appear together while the Giant and SDC never do. 

     Correct - and this is in keeping with my idea on Mrs Tremond and
     Her "Grandson" as I explained just above  ^

  The
> >relationship between the MFAP and Mike is somewhat confusing.

     Agreed.

  Some of
> >what is presented identifies MFAP with Mike's arm  while the OAM is
> >identified with the rest of Mike.

     I see it as simpler than this tho.  When MIKE and BOB were
     partners, actively seeking out and terrorizing humans to
     drain them of FIRE, they were the equivalent of drunks - 
     addicted to the FIRE in people.  They were supposed to be
     gathering the ambient garmonbozia - fear and suffering -
     that humans gave off.  But they found they could take more
     than that - and it was ecstasy.  They took more than the
     fear and suffering of humans, they took joy and happiness
     and everything -- FIRE.  

     Then MIKE saw the error of his ways, got on the wagon and
     took his arm off.  Perhaps this is the arm MIKE's kind
     use to gather the garmonbozia - remember BOB exiting
     glastonbury grove that firsst time, arm first?  Like that.
     That arm remained personified as the LMFAP in the Lodge
     world.  So perhaps the arm is still a little malevolant,
     but the rest of MIKE is a reformed alcoholic.

     Hm...  This is confusing!  :-)

  I suspect that part of what is going
> >on is that OAM and MFAP stem from the beginnings of TP while the others
> >evolved later and may reflect some revisionist thinking.

     By Lynch, you mean?  I don't see it that way at all: I think
     we're being shown examples of different "characters" of BOB's
     kind, and all of them are characters designed to give us more
     knowledge - incrementally - of the mythology actively involved
     with humans in Twin Peaks.

> >-Rich Haller

                 Shortly  thereafter, the health of  Annie
                 Blackburn still in question, the behavior
                 of Special Agent  Dale Cooper was noticed
                 __________________________to have changed.
                                              Scott Gorcey.            

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