Season 2, Episodes 21–22: Miss Twin Peaks / Beyond Life and Death — June 10, 1991–August 27, 1992

In article <1992Jul6.115736.20259@pdn.paradyne.com>, pitchon@paradyne.com
(Howard Pitchon) wrote:
> >     -Does  anyone know why Lara Flynn  Boyle was replaced by Moira Kelly 
> >     for the movie?

For one thing, she had signed to work on other films, e.g., Waynes World. 
It's a dumb part, too.

-Rich Haller

how's this for a rumor???

Criterion LaserDisc corp is possibly releasing some of the episodes of
TP on LaserDisc later on this year.

I heard this rumor from my LaserDisc store. Anyone Else heard this one???

Jason Bilsky   fuzzbox@world.std.com

In article <14300@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@linus.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes...

} At a convention recently, I talked to the editor of a zine which prints
} TP fan fiction, and she mentioned a couple of things she heard:

} * that the USA cable channel is interested in rerunning the entire series.

And cut the hell out of them, I'm sure.

} * if (and this is a BIG if) the movie does sufficiently well, USA might
} (and this is a BIG might) be interested in producing new episodes.

Gack!  TWIN PEAKS would be better off dead.

-- "I want you to form a team of the most brilliant minds in network television." "Well, now, isn't that a contradiction in terms?" --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com

In article <35326@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> enomura@sdcc13.ucsd.edu 
(Eddie the 'ead) writes:
>> >>
>> >>   The article mentions that the scene with the bending of the steel cables
>> >>   is cut.  Can anyone who has seen the movie say if the whole scene was cut?
>> >>

I don't know which scene do you mean exactly.
If is the one in the timeline :

Feb 1988

#   4:30 pm (Cable to Desmond)
#   -- Desmond and Stanley arrive at the sheriff's station in Deer Meadow.
#      The deputy, Cliff Howard, and the secretary try to get them to wait
#      around for a long time but Desmond pinches Cliff's nose and walks into
#      the sheriff's office.  Desmond demands all pertinent information
#      regarding Teresa Banks from a belligerent Sheriff Cable.  On his way
#      out, Desmond notices a framed newspaper clipping on the wall.  It
#      reads "Cable Bends Steel" and there is a picture of Cable bending
#      a steel bar into a U shape.
[ this scene IS in the movie ]

#   -- As Desmond and Stanley walk to the adjoining morgue, they see a pile
#      of steel bars.
[ i don't remember whether this is or not in the movie ]  

#      Stanley figures the entire office, furniture included,
#      is worth $27,000.
[ this scene is in the movie ]

Why is it so significant ?

Manuel@Japan

Here in Japan we will have the second rerun this month. 
It is a 28 hours special that will be broadcasted on the 25th and 26th.
They did the same last January.

Manuel

Re. the car crash scene, Gary Bradley writes:
> >   I took this scene from "Wild at Heart" to be very important as well
> >as beautifully shot and moving. To me this young attractive girl dying
> >so strangely in the middle of the desert showed Sailor and Laura how
> >quickly and easily you can be killed and that because of this there is
> >nothing more important in having a great time (being "Wild at Heart") at
> >every possible opportunity.

I agree entirely!  And not only is it beautifully shot and moving, it's
hilarious.  I was touched when the dying woman says "Gotta find my
purse--my mother will kill me" over and over, and also I started to
giggle.  A giggle of nervousness, I guess, but also one of those
"this is so true to life" realizations that can make you laugh unex-
pectedly.  And then when she was mumbling about getting out her
lipstick, as bright red blood welled up through her mouth and colored
her lips, I burst out laughing.  So did about a quarter of the people
in the theatre with me.  I think Lynch is a magician of the emotions,
that he can pull for so many different, mingled, responses to the
same set of imagery.

--Fiona Webster

  (formerly 
    Fiona Oceanstar)

In article <Br03qz.H96@world.std.com>, fuzzbox@world.std.com (Heavenly Metal) writes...

} how's this for a rumor???

} Criterion LaserDisc corp is possibly releasing some of the episodes of
} TP on LaserDisc later on this year.

} I heard this rumor from my LaserDisc store. Anyone Else heard this one???

No, but I'd heard as far back as four or five months ago from two independent
sources that Lumivision was cutting a deal with Worldvision Home Video for
the laserdisc rights to the entire series. And nothing has since come of it.

And nothing has been mentioned in the laserdisc press, such as Doug Pratt's
LASERDISC NEWSLETTER, which usually has information on planned releases
long before they are officially announced by the companies.

-- "She's my radiation baby. She's my teenage fallout girl." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com

Faust writes:
> >I'm not so sure about the film being cut.  Lynch's last
> >film to hit our shores, WILD AT HEART, had some fairly
> >violent scenes and these were (as far as I know) left
> >untouched by the censors.  There was one scene cut from
> >the film, but that was cut by Lynch himself after mass
> >walkouts by preview audiences in the States.

What scene was that?  I didn't know that anything was cut, so
I'm curious.

--Fiona W.

Does anone out there have a clue as to if and when the second season will  
be released on video tape?

In article <1992Jul7.144820.23248@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster) writes:
> >Faust writes:
>> >>I'm not so sure about the film being cut.  Lynch's last
>> >>film to hit our shores, WILD AT HEART, had some fairly
>> >>violent scenes and these were (as far as I know) left
>> >>untouched by the censors.  There was one scene cut from
>> >>the film, but that was cut by Lynch himself after mass
>> >>walkouts by preview audiences in the States.
> >
> >What scene was that?  I didn't know that anything was cut, so
> >I'm curious.

Anyone who hasn't seen "Wild At Heart" and cares about spoilers should
stop here.

Towards the end of "Wild At Heart", I'm sure you remember one of the
characters having his head blown off.  In the original cut, this scene
was shown in somewhat more graphic detail.  I could be misremembering,
but I believe that no footage was cut, but, rather, that they blurred
some of the footage so you couldn't clearly see the grosser bits.
There was some fuss at the time about "Wild At Heart" possibly receiving
an X rating, but, if publicity is to be believed, Lynch made this change
to avoid grossing people out too much, rather than to appease the MPAA.
He mentioned something about how hard it was to gauge audience reactions
before you actually showed the film to people, and that the audience
reaction to the scene was more extreme than he was shooting for.

--
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In article <1992Jul7.144820.23248@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster) writes:
> >Faust writes:
>> >>I'm not so sure about the film being cut.  Lynch's last
>> >>film to hit our shores, WILD AT HEART, had some fairly
>> >>violent scenes and these were (as far as I know) left
>> >>untouched by the censors.  There was one scene cut from
>> >>the film, but that was cut by Lynch himself after mass
>> >>walkouts by preview audiences in the States.
> >
> >What scene was that?  I didn't know that anything was cut, so
> >I'm curious.
> >
The scene where Bobby Peru (Willem Defoe) blows his own head off with
a shotgun was shortened and had some FX smoke added to partially obscure
the scene. This was not done as a result of audience walkouts but rather
to get the movie an 'R' rating from the MPAA. It had previously been
awarded an 'X' by the aforementioned guardians of public morality.A

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Anyone who hasn't seen "Wild At Heart" and cares about spoilers should
stop here.

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
   Towards the end of "Wild At Heart", I'm sure you remember one of the
   characters having his head blown off.  In the original cut, this scene
   was shown in somewhat more graphic detail.  I could be misremembering,
   but I believe that no footage was cut, but, rather, that they blurred
   some of the footage so you couldn't clearly see the grosser bits.

This was done for the US release, but was left intact in the Euro release
(weird, they usually keep the violence and cut the sex in US... :)
I didn't see anything blurred in that scene when I saw it in Sweden. 

I heard that Lynch cut out another section though, that his *friends*
etc thought ws too gross when they got a preview. Musta been quite
harsh then...  From what I heard this was an extension of the scene
where Johnny Farragut(sp?) gets killed/voodooized.

I could most definitively be wrong though...
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The following comes from the Twin Peaks faq from a while ago:

> >    b)  Is this Miguel Ferrer the same one who's credited on the
> >recording of "Fishheads"?
> >--Yes, Ferrer was part of Barnes and Barnes who recorded "Fishheads"
> >(Bill Mumy was the other half).  Ferrer and Mumy also make up
> >a band called Seduction of the Innocent which plays very
> >occasionally at comics conventions.  They have also written
> >some comic books together.

Q. What is this "Fishheads" thing? Several years ago a friend played 
me a record he was the proud owner of and it went something along the
lines of:

Fish heads, fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads, fish heads,
Eat them up, yum!

Are they by any chance related?

E-mail replies will suffice. Thanks for letting me waste your time.

Brigid

In article <1992Jul7.144820.23248@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster) writes:
> >Faust writes:
>> >>I'm not so sure about the film being cut.  Lynch's last
>> >>film to hit our shores, WILD AT HEART, had some fairly
>> >>violent scenes and these were (as far as I know) left
>> >>untouched by the censors.  There was one scene cut from
>> >>the film, but that was cut by Lynch himself after mass
>> >>walkouts by preview audiences in the States.
> >
> >What scene was that?  I didn't know that anything was cut, so
> >I'm curious.

The torture scene originally lasted 20-30 minutes, with some
pretty gruesome, nauseating moments.  In an interview Lynch
said there were mass walkouts in the middle, and that the
scene was just too long for the average person's
psychological tolerance, so he cut it short.  He was sad
and a little wistful about the cut, and seemed to think
it was a big loss for the movie.  I don't know what was
left out, guess we'll have to use our imagination :-)

-S. Schultz

> > The torture scene originally lasted 20-30 minutes, with some
> > pretty gruesome, nauseating moments.  In an interview Lynch
> > said there were mass walkouts in the middle, and that the
> > scene was just too long for the average person's
> > psychological tolerance, so he cut it short.  He was sad
> > and a little wistful about the cut, and seemed to think
> > it was a big loss for the movie.  I don't know what was
> > left out, guess we'll have to use our imagination :-)
> > 
> > -S. Schultz

What torture scene?  Are you talking about where Bobby Peru tormented Lula  
in the hotel room in Big Tuna, or when  Jonny Feregut was tortured and  
then put to death?
Just wondering????

Fellow Peakers!

I'm sitting in a Mac IIci lab on the campus of The Univ. of Toledo.  Written on
a chalk board in the lab is the following:

"The Owls
are not
what they
seem"


Say what you want about Toledo, the Mud Hens, Klinger, Tony Packos and anything
else, but hey this is too cool!



Cheers!


Don Kasprzak

In article <1992Jul8.182643.661@cs.rose-hulman.edu> patterjd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeffrey D Patterson) writes:
> >
> >What torture scene?  Are you talking about where Bobby Peru tormented Lula  
> >in the hotel room in Big Tuna, or when  Jonny Feregut was tortured and  
> >then put to death?
> >Just wondering????

It was the Farragut scene, where the woman yells "F*ck me" in
a guttural voice as a command to shoot him in the head.  Pretty
weird, eh?  Kinda makes you wonder what was cut.

-S. Schultz

Any of you peakers who are interested in astrology will get a kick out
of the birthdates given in the Timeline for Coop and Truman. Charts done
for those times (they have to be solar charts, since only the dates are
given, with no time and place) are amazingly faithful to the characters
of Coop and Truman in Twin Peaks. One must assume that Lynch or someone
was very conversant with astrology. Someone obviously went to a good deal
of trouble to pick times which would have an inherent astrological pattern
that would match the personalities that would be depicted on the show.

Dale Bartholomew Cooper, born April 19, 1954. That gives him Sun in Aries, Moon
in Scorpio. One of the most interesting points is that retrograde Neptune
is opposed to his Sun, which is where he gets his love of the weird, and
those prophetic dreams.

Harry S. Truman, born May 13, 1950. That gives him Sun in Taurus, Moon in
Aries. His Venus in Aries makes him adventurous in love, but since Venus
is in a bad aspect to Uranus, his love affairs can have very sudden and
unexpected endings.

I don't have time to go into all the other characteristics shown by the
charts that match up with the TV characters, but it's obvious that this
is to exact to be coincidence -- I mean choosing those particular birth
dates. Someone did research.

Regards, Lou Crago

In article <1992Jul7.144820.23248@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona
Webster) writes:

   > Faust writes:

   >>I'm not so sure about the film being cut.  Lynch's last film
   >>to hit our shores, WILD AT HEART, had some fairly violent
   >>scenes and these were (as far as I know) left untouched by the
   >>censors.  There was one scene cut from the film, but that was
   >>cut by Lynch himself after mass walkouts by preview audiences
   >>in the States.

   > What scene was that?  I didn't know that anything was cut, so
   > I'm curious.

The scene that was cut from the film was the scene where Johnny
Farragut gets killed.  From what I've read, in the cut scene, he gets
killed in a sexual manner while the vodoo woman masterbates.  This
scene caused many people to walk out during test showings, so Lynch
cut the scene.  Me, being a fan of good weird sexualized violence,
especially when it's violence by a woman on a man (my girlfriend won't
let me enjoy any violence by a man on a woman), I wish the scene
hadn't been cut.

The Angriest |>oug in the World

Having seen the first episodes that are available on video tape I'd like to
see the rest.  Would someone who has them on tape (and has access to two
vcr's) please offer to make a copy of the later episodes for me?  I'll
supply pre-addressed envelopes, postage, and blank tapes to make it as 
easy as possible for you.
ron@vicorp.com or uunet!vicorp!ron

In article <1992Jun30.101102.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>,
crago_l@cubldr.colorado.edu wrote:
> > 
> > In article <1992Jun28.155628.41113@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, dreamer@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (DAVID CARUSO II ~~~) writes:
>> > > about the ending ... I understand the midget was the devil, and I think 
>> > > right in assuming that Laura Palmer practiced Satanism.  Here are my questions:
> > 
[text deleted]
>> > > 
>> > > (1) How was the scene with agent Cooper taking place?  Was it a dream?  
>> > >     gone to Hell?  Was it some sort of vision?
> > 
> > It could hardly have been hell, for this reason: In the video that came out 
> > a stand-alone film, it comprised the last ten minutes or so. First there was
> > the main part of the two-hour introductory episode, then there was a caption
> > that said *25 years later*, and then there was the dancing midget sequence.
> > If it was 25 years later, then it wasn't hell - that would make no sense.
[text deleted]
>> > > |  dreamer@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu                                          - 
> > Regards, Lou Crago

Sorry for jumping in the middle of the thread, but our news server trashed
the previous articles in the thread, so here goes:

Has anyone played the ten minute "25-year later" bit backwards? 
Audio-track,
I mean?  It sounds like they altered the sound sequence to encode some 
sound backwards, but my VCR doesn't play in reverse and I don't
have a tape recorder.  I suppose I could have digitized the sound on my
Mac and run it backwards, but that was too much trouble for a rented tape.

Curious,

Terry McArdle
mcardle@icarus.lis.pitt.edu

In article <mcardle-100792183546@mac8.falk.med.pitt.edu>, mcardle@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Terry McArdle) writes:
> > Has anyone played the ten minute "25-year later" bit backwards? 
> > Audio-track,
> > I mean?  It sounds like they altered the sound sequence to encode some 
> > sound backwards...

Yeah, they encoded script lines backwards.

They read their script and taped it.  Then they played it backwards and
wrote down what it sounded like.  Then they had each of the actors read
THOSE lines, and go through all their motions in reverse.  Then they played
the result in reverse to get the scenes you saw.
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Yes, I have one sound of the little man saying:
"Wow Bob, wow"...
Which surrisingly says...
"Wow Bob, wow" when using Farlons SoundEdit...
:o)

Tom Buzzeo              tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta

In article <1992Jul8.090619.1@geovax.ed.ac.uk> brigid@geovax.ed.ac.uk writes:
|The following comes from the Twin Peaks faq from a while ago:
|
|>    b)  Is this Miguel Ferrer the same one who's credited on the
|>recording of "Fishheads"?
|>--Yes, Ferrer was part of Barnes and Barnes who recorded "Fishheads"
|>(Bill Mumy was the other half).  Ferrer and Mumy also make up

|Q. What is this "Fishheads" thing? Several years ago a friend played 
|me a record he was the proud owner of and it went something along the
|lines of:
|
|Fish heads, fish heads,
|Roly poly fish heads,
|Fish heads, fish heads,
|Eat them up, yum!
|
|Are they by any chance related?

Yup, one and the same.

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     \_   \_  \_\_    \_     \_\_       \
\_\_  \_\_\_ \_   \_ \_\_\_ \_   \_     /       phz@cadence.com
       \_     \_\_\_    \_   \_\_\_     \    or
        \_     \_        \_   \_        /       ..!uunet!cadence!phz
         \_      \_\_      \_   \_\_    \

Took a fish head
Out to see a movie.
Didn't have to pay
To get it in!

I something of a ignoramus where computers and this network are concerned
but could someone out there tell me why there are only two postings in
this group at present.  Is it because the world has run out of things to
say about Lynch - which I find hard to believe - or is it something to 
do with the technology at my end?
Thanks.

Richard.

Here in Japan we will have the FIRE WALK WITH ME 
original soundtrack in CD from August 10th (2,500 yen).

There is also something called VISUAL soundtrack in LD ( 52 min. 4,500 yen ).

Manuel Pece

I was once again the victim of VCR sabotage and missed the most
recent edition of On The Air, which I believe to have been #3,
aired on 7/4/92. Does anybody have this? I'm willing to trade
something of equal or greater value, particularly Twin Peaks related.

emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us

Thank yous are due to the three people who replied to my enquiry - two
felt the dearth of postings was due to human inadequacy and a third
believed my problem was technical, so I'll tentatively assume the former
and attempt to rectify to problem in a small way.

This may have been discussed before but perhaps repetition is better than
silence, particularly for those who missed out the first time.  Has anyone
out there seen or got opinions about the Lynch directed Julie Cruise concert
which was aired in New Zealand a few months back?  I have just received a 
copy on tape (after missing the original broadcast) and would be interested
in some alternate views.

Richard.

In article <1992Jul14.044441.8692@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
> >In article <1992Jul8.090619.1@geovax.ed.ac.uk> brigid@geovax.ed.ac.uk writes:
> >|The following comes from the Twin Peaks faq from a while ago:
> >|
> >|>    b)  Is this Miguel Ferrer the same one who's credited on the
> >|>recording of "Fishheads"?
> >|>--Yes, Ferrer was part of Barnes and Barnes who recorded "Fishheads"
> >|>(Bill Mumy was the other half).  Ferrer and Mumy also make up
> >
> >|Q. What is this "Fishheads" thing? Several years ago a friend played 
> >|me a record he was the proud owner of and it went something along the
> >|lines of:
> >|
> >|Fish heads, fish heads,
> >|Roly poly fish heads,
> >|Fish heads, fish heads,
> >|Eat them up, yum!
> >|
> >|Are they by any chance related?
> >
> >Yup, one and the same.

You know, I'm not at all sure about this anymore...  It was common wisdom
on the net a while back -- in fact, as indicated above, it made it into
the a.t.tp FAQ -- that Miguel Ferrer was one half (with Bill Mumy) of
Barnes and Barnes, the people who recorded "Fishheads" and lots of other
delightfully strange songs.

However, Barnes and Barnes have come out with a new release within the last
year, and though there appear to be two people in the group, Miguel does
not appear to be one of them.  I believe it was on that CD, though I
may be confusing it with some other printed source, that the individuals
were even named, and Bill Mumy was indeed one of them, but Miguel Ferrer
was not... at least not by that name.  Now Ferrer could have not wanted
to use his name (or some contract somewhere could have prevented it), and
they may have deliberately used someone else in all the photos... or the
personnel of the group could have changed by 50% since the original
recording... I dunno.

Anywho, I wonder if anyone out there could provide a source for confirmation
of Miguel's collaboration with Mumy as part of Barnes and Barnes, other
than alt.tv.twin-peaks sources?
-- -larryy@apple.com "Shi Nou Kou Sho Inu Neko Programmer" - Takada Naoki

hey...

For all you americans who are waiting for FWWM to come out, Spin magazine has a

n article about it this month.  Check it out.

Towards the end of the episodes, peoples hands all over twin peaks
began to shake.  It happenned to Cooper, a lady in the Double R Diner, and some other people but I can't remember them right now.  The only thing I could think of was that these people had psychic powers that were warning them of the upcoming alignment of planets, and opening of the gate to the white and black lodges.
Does anyone have any other ideas or explanations to explain this, (if you know
what I'm talking about that is)??


(sorry about the typing)

OK, I think I actually read somewhere that Julee Criuse will be joing the
B-52 on tour this summer.  Did I just dream this or is it true? lso
heard that's she will have to be fitted for ly crazy wigs for the
oc.  Someone please confirm this for me.
 
Thanx,
William

In article <BrHwrD.5ox@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> rbairos@cayley.waterloo.edu (Rob Bairos) writes:
> >
> >Towards the end of the episodes, peoples hands all over twin peaks
> >began to shake.  It happenned to Cooper, a lady in the Double R Diner, and
> >some other people but I can't remember them right now.  The only thing I
> >could think of was that these people had psychic powers that were warning
> >them of the upcoming alignment of planets, and opening of the gate to the
> >white and black lodges.  Does anyone have any other ideas or explanations
> >to explain this, (if you know what I'm talking about that is)??

The general consensus is that this has to do with the hand-shaking that you
see by BOB as he attempts to enter this world from the spirit domain at the
end of that episode.  The scene is at night in the forest (near the
oil pit/entrance to the lodges, I think), and a light is shining on his
hand wriggling in the air, looking a lot more substantial than his body.
Whether he makes it into this reality at that point or not isn't all that
clear.  But it's suggestive of the hand-shaking earlier in that episode.
I think of it as BOB trying on different people for size, sort of,
exercising his growing strength, taunting even Cooper.

For what it's worth, the light used to illuminate BOB's hand in that scene
apparently shines a bit of a spotlight on some trees in the upper left-hand
corner of the screen, which some people initially tried to give some
significant story meaning, but which most ended up believing to simply be
an intrusion of the stagecraft.
-- -larryy@apple.com "Shi Nou Kou Sho Inu Neko Programmer" - Takada Naoki

I wonder if Agent Cooper votes for Bush, or Clinton. Does the political party
affect in any way how FBI operates in USA?

In article <BrIqF5.1LI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, kig9584@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kyoko Inoue ) writes:
> > I wonder if Agent Cooper votes for Bush, or Clinton. Does the political party
> > affect in any way how FBI operates in USA?
> > 

I don't know, but it reminds me of one political question he posed.

In article <1992Jul15.130042.9373@waikato.ac.nz> hist1261@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> >I something of a ignoramus where computers and this network are concerned
> >but could someone out there tell me why there are only two postings in
> >this group at present.  Is it because the world has run out of things to
> >say about Lynch - which I find hard to believe - or is it something to 
> >do with the technology at my end?



It's Summertime. Most of the kiddies (undergraduates) are away home
for the summer !!! (Well here anyway). Hence, USENET volume takes a dive
until next term.



Neil

In article <BrIqF5.1LI@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kig9584@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kyoko Inoue ) writes:
> >I wonder if Agent Cooper votes for Bush, or Clinton. Does the political party
> >affect in any way how FBI operates in USA?

To the same extent that the political party in power affects the Supreme Court
(appointees to the position tend to be conservative or liberal, but may
be rejected by Congress)

Under J.Edgar Hoover, the F.B.I. was very right-wing. After his death, they
became somewhat more liberal, (though perhaps only in comparison to the
C.I.A.) 

John A. Nickles
Standard Disclaimer: Purdue has their opinions, I have mine

In article <54351@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, nickles@sage.cc.purdue.edu (john a nickles) writes:
|> In article <BrIqF5.1LI@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kig9584@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kyoko Inoue ) writes:
|> >I wonder if Agent Cooper votes for Bush, or Clinton. Does the political party
|> >affect in any way how FBI operates in USA?
|> 
|> To the same extent that the political party in power affects the Supreme Court
|> (appointees to the position tend to be conservative or liberal, but may
|> be rejected by Congress)
|> 
|> Under J.Edgar Hoover, the F.B.I. was very right-wing. After his death, they
|> became somewhat more liberal, (though perhaps only in comparison to the
|> C.I.A.) 

I couldn't let this one go by.....

Hoover was a Franklin D. Roosevelt (the evil Roosevelt) appointee whose
term spanned four Democratic and either two or three Republican presidents.
He was a loose cannon responsible to no person, law, oath, or constitution.

Monty

In article <1992Jul16.171942.20758@nic.umass.edu>, S2762132@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (s2762132) writes:
|> hey...
|> 
|> For all you americans who are waiting for FWWM to come out, Spin magazine has a
|> 
|> n article about it this month.  Check it out.


Spin is also running a contest called the David Lynch/SPIN FWWM contest.
I forget what the prizes are.  FWWM t-shirts are some.  Entry forms
are in the same issue.

In article <1992Jul14.044441.8692@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
> >In article <1992Jul8.090619.1@geovax.ed.ac.uk> brigid@geovax.ed.ac.uk writes:
> >|The following comes from the Twin Peaks faq from a while ago:
> >|
> >|>    b)  Is this Miguel Ferrer the same one who's credited on the
> >|>recording of "Fishheads"?
> >|>--Yes, Ferrer was part of Barnes and Barnes who recorded "Fishheads"
> >|>(Bill Mumy was the other half).  Ferrer and Mumy also make up

Now, who was Bill Mumy again?  Eddie Munster?

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The shaking hands, besides presaging the impending alignment
of the planets, also mirrored BOB's trembling hand, which was
the first part of him to wedge his way from the other side
(from the Black Lodge) to this world, in the ring of trees
at the end of the pre-finale episode.

In article <BrIqF5.1LI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, kig9584@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kyoko Inoue ) writes:
> > I wonder if Agent Cooper votes for Bush, or Clinton. Does the political party
> > affect in any way how FBI operates in USA?

Sure.  Under Republican administrations, the FBI busily generates files on
prominent Democrats, suspected subversives, celebrities, and rock singers.
Under Democratic administrations, they attend conferences and seminars in
resort locations, and neglect their filing completely.
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In article <2A672727.18631@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:
> > Now, who was Bill Mumy again?  Eddie Munster?

The kid on Lost in Space.
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I saw the end of an interview with David Lynch's daughter Jennifer on 
MTV's "Big Picture" yesterday.  She was talking about her film "Boxing 
Helena" starring Sherilyn Fenn.  I didn't see enough of it to provide much 
info about the movie, but all I have to say is this:  Forget the arguments 
over which Twin Peaks female is better looking (Audrey, Donna, or Shelley 
- there was some discussion on the net a while back.)  Jennifer Lynch has 
them all beat - she is absolutely gorgeous, at least in my opinion.  And 
apparently very intelligent as well.

Also, in the August issue of Premiere magazine, there is a full-page ad 
for the Twin Peaks movie.  It's a picture of the half-heart necklace, with 
Laura's picture in it.  The half-heart is on fire.  In the background are 
the red drapes and the zig-zag floor of the Red Room.  It's a pretty 
interesting picture.  And it does confirm that a soundtrack album will be 
released.
 

kbays@bluemoon.uucp

..

David Lynch may be an artistic genius, but his handling of television
has been pitiful.

His basic failure vis television is to attach his name to a series
which he does not maintain direct artistic (directorial and 
 screen-writing) control over.  In so doing, he betrays his audience
and himself.  He would be much better advised to pursue much more
limited projects, such as films and mini-series, under his own control.

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Listed in the television for this week is the Miss america pagent,
last week was a special, and the week before was the fourth of July.  
Can anyone tell me if On the Air has been cncelled?  I'm beginning to
fear the worst....

Just for the record, I said:

In article <1992Jul17.191551.15913@aosg.gsf.dec.com>, montyb@alpha.aosg.gsf.dec.com (Monty C. Brandenberg) writes:
|> I couldn't let this one go by.....
|> 
|> Hoover was a Franklin D. Roosevelt (the evil Roosevelt) appointee whose
|> term spanned four Democratic and either two or three Republican presidents.
|> He was a loose cannon responsible to no person, law, oath, or constitution.

It turns out Hoover was appointed by Coolidge (in 1924) and kept his office
until Nixon (1972).  So, that's Coolidge, Hoover, FDR, Truman, Ike, JFK,
LBJ, and Tricky Dick.  If ever there was an argument for employment limitations
for civil servants.....

monty

nervda@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:

> >OK, I think I actually read somewhere that Julee Criuse will be joing the
> >B-52 on tour this summer.  Did I just dream this or is it true? lso
> >heard that's she will have to be fitted for ly crazy wigs for the
> >oc.  Someone please confirm this for me.

Yep...she'll be touring with them.  I heard it on MTV News a month or so
ago.  Cool, eh?
 
...e

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jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes:

> >Listed in the television for this week is the Miss america pagent,
> >last week was a special, and the week before was the fourth of July.  
> >Can anyone tell me if On the Air has been cncelled?  I'm beginning to
> >fear the worst....

Are you in the Boston area? It hasn't been shown for 3 weeks here either..
I'm really starting to worry...

Jason Bilsky   fuzzbox@world.std.com

In article <mq44NB1w164w@netlink.cts.com>, jim@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:
> > David Lynch may be an artistic genius, but his handling of television
> > has been pitiful.
> > 
> > His basic failure vis television is to attach his name to a series
> > which he does not maintain direct artistic (directorial and 
> >  screen-writing) control over.  In so doing, he betrays his audience
> > and himself.  He would be much better advised to pursue much more
> > limited projects, such as films and mini-series, under his own control.
> > 
> > --                    
> > INTERNET:  jim@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery)
> > UUCP:   ...!ryptyde!netlink!jim
> > NetLink Online Communications * Public Access in San Diego, CA (619) 453-1115

Perhaps, but there is a precedent: Alfred Hitchcock.  I think the master only
directed about eight episodes of the television programmes that bore his
name, and despite his rather ridiculous introductions he only maintained
nominal control over their content.  Hitchcock also leant his name to those
infamous "Three Investigator" books, and numerous mystery anthologies that
had nothing to do with his career.  Despite the dubious quality of these
projects, the mere fact that the director's name was constantly before the
public was arguably of benefit to his reputation (the old adage of "there's
no such thing as bad publicity").  The decerning audience can usually ascertain
the extent of the auteur's involvement (did anyone really think Hitch knew
Jupiter Jones?).

In article <1992Jul18.173141.7708@scott.skidmore.edu>, jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes...

} Listed in the television for this week is the Miss america pagent, last
} week was a special, and the week before was the fourth of July.

ON THE AIR was broadcast on Independence Day. The Boston ABC affiliate
pre-empted it for a special on the annual Boston Pops Esplanade concert,
but it was broadcast on the Manchester, New Hampshire affiliate (allegedly,
anyway, I screwed up and set the timer to record the Boston channel).

} Can anyone tell me if On the Air has been cncelled?  I'm beginning to
} fear the worst....

It's most likely cancelled. Next Saturday, ABC is running the new summer
series THE HUMAN TARGET in the 9-10 slot (after the premiere on Monday).

-- "She's my radiation baby. She's my teenage fallout girl." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com

From: Summer Storm 

Re: General responses to questions, new questions, comments, etc. 
     
TP  sighting: James  Booth (aka  Ernie Niles  (sp?)) in a 1968 movie 
with  Shirley  Maclaine  called  "The  Bliss of Mrs. Blossom." Funny 
dated movie-lots of paisley, etc.

More astrology:

Laura:  7/22/72. Cancer  (but on  the cusp),  Moon in  Sag, Venus in 
Gemini. Makes her outwardly self-assured, but  really shy; attracted 
to  the occult  (though it  seems that  the occult  was attracted to 
her);  natural  teacher  (J.  Horne,  J. Packard); restless; able to 
foresee  the  outcome  of  events  ("tonight  is  the night I die"); 
dualistic, may have more than  one lover at a time (!) and more than 
one job at a time; sociable and likeable. 

Jacoby: 1/30/34. Aquarius, Moon in Leo, Venus in Aquarius. Makes him 
idealistic,   unconventional,  popular  w/the   opposite  sex,  will 
probably marry someone of a different age, may have bizarre lovers. 

Josie: 9/2/62. Virgo, Moon and  Venus in Libra. Only where  her moon 
is gives  any insight  into her  character where  she is inclined to 
partnerships,  her destiny  stems from  her associations with people 
with persuasive qualities, and she likes good clothes. 

Ben: 8/4/40. A double Leo (sun  & moon), Venus in Cancer. Makes  him 
dramatic,  a  good  lover,  philanthropic,  quick to anger. Wants to 
lead,  ambitious,  prone  to  many  love  affairs,  intelligent  and 
secretive. 

Catherine: 11/4/40. A Scorpio (was  there ever any doubt?), Moon  in 
Cap,  Venus  in  Libra.  Makes  her  secretive, skeptical, critical, 
calculating, blunt, sarcastic, aggressive, shrewd, ambitious, may be 
prominent in  the community, cold (well,  emotionally anyway), likes 
social recoginition. 

Cooper (4/19/54) and Truman (5/13/50) have already been done, but it 
is pretty amazing how much like  their charts they are. Also, as  an 
Aries, Cooper is  a born leader, and  as a Taurus, Truman  is a born 
follower. Also, Cooper has  his Venus in Taurus, and  Truman has his 
Venus  in Aries.  A lot  of good  stuff happens  when these two pool 
their talents, as it does when Aries and Taurus show up in any chart 
or   friendship.   "Friendship   is   the   basis   of  any  lasting 
relationship." 

There  are others, Hawk,  James, Doc Hayward,  Pete, Ed & Norma, but 
that's it for now. Josie really doesn't fit what her chart indicates 
from above, but there are aspects I  haven't looked into. She should 
be of  a harmonious, peaceful nature, and  unless I missed something 
in the series, that's not our Josie. 

Re: rumor that  the USA cable network is going to show TP reruns: to 
voice an opinion (eg. run them UNCUT!), write to USA at:
      1230 Avenue of the Americas
      NY, NY 10020

Okay,  the college folks are gone, communication is down. Maybe this 
would be a good time to:

1. Answer questions from new Peakers/Peak Freaks/TP fans/Lynch fans, 
etc. 

2. Get to know each other. Sounds corny, but being temporarily stuck 
in Smalltown, USA,  some of my best communications  come from people 
very far away, both  in the US and abroad. One of the coolest things 
about this newsgroup is the diversity of the people using it. 

Question: In the  last episode, the  Log Lady says  that her husband 
brought  home the oil a  few days before he  died. I thought he died 
the night they were  married (from an earlier episode).  Can someone 
explain the incongruity. 

Answer  to an  earlier question:  I think  Cooper would write-in the 
Dahli Lama  for President, but probably  supported Gov. Brown during 
the primaries as another seeker of "The Way." 

Question:  I  have:  the  TP  Access  Guide,  The Autobiog. of Agent 
Cooper,  LP's  Diary,  TP-Behind  the  Scenes, and Cooper's Tapes to 
Diane. Are there any other books or tapes? 
Also, I know  that the pilot  and the first  seven episodes are 
available on video (any good video store can order them for you). 
There are also collector cards. 
Does anyone know if there are any other collectibles? and where 
to get them? 

Me: Until I  have a modum  at home, I  communicate through a  friend 
w/access to this news-group. Small-town dweller, temporarily-this is 
no Twin Peaks! In  fact the open-mindedness depicted in TP and other 
TV depictions of  small-town life is wishful thinking. My perception 
of most small-town dwellers is that their closed-minded concerns are 
no  more  global  than  trim,  green  lawns,  even in the midst of a 
draught. 

Question: I read somewhere that Frank Silva (Bob) worked on  the set 
of  TP  and  when  Lynch  saw  him,  he  knew  he  had found the Bob 
character. Anyone know if this is true?

40 days to FWWM !!!

In article <1992Jul20.115200.5489@pdn.paradyne.com>, pitchon@paradyne.com (Howard Pitchon) writes:

> > 
> > More astrology:
> > 
> > Laura:  7/22/72. Cancer  (but on  the cusp),  Moon in  Sag, Venus in 
> > Gemini. Makes her outwardly self-assured, but  really shy; attracted 
> > to  the occult  (though it  seems that  the occult  was attracted to 
> > her);  natural  teacher  (J.  Horne,  J. Packard); restless; able to 
> > foresee  the  outcome  of  events  ("tonight  is  the night I die"); 
> > dualistic, may have more than  one lover at a time (!) and more than 
> > one job at a time; sociable and likeable. 
> > 
> > Jacoby: 1/30/34. Aquarius, Moon in Leo, Venus in Aquarius. Makes him 
> > idealistic,   unconventional,  popular  w/the   opposite  sex,  will 
> > probably marry someone of a different age, may have bizarre lovers. 
> > 
> > Josie: 9/2/62. Virgo, Moon and  Venus in Libra. Only where  her moon 
> > is gives  any insight  into her  character where  she is inclined to 
> > partnerships,  her destiny  stems from  her associations with people 
> > with persuasive qualities, and she likes good clothes. 
> > 
> > 
Those were good takes on the charts of the other TP characters. I hadn't
looked closely at Josie, but now that I do I find it's fascinating. I hope
this will be of interest to netters althought it's a bit technical because
it's about TP. 

Since we have not times of birth on any of these charts, we can only get
partial information, but the planets in signs and the aspects between them
tell a lot. Josie comes across as a very enigmatic person. For openers, she
has Neptune in Scorpio square to her Sun and Mercury in Leo. Neptune is the
planet that rules deceit, lies, illusion, etc. When it is in a bad aspect to
the Sun, it means the person habitually makes poor choices; when in bad aspect
to Mercury it often indicates the person is an habituial liar. 

Sun and Mercury in Leo tell us she had the soul of an actress, was capable
of playing a finely-crafted part. Neptune in Scorpio alludes to deception or
deceit in sexual matters. And opposite Sun/Mercury is Saturn retrograde in
Aquarius. 

Saturn opposite the Sun suggests hard times or abuse in early life, and by
its being in Aquarius, the abusers could have been very unusual or eccentric
people. The retrogradation of Saturn (from the earth it appears to be moving
backward, although of course its not) goes along with a rise in life and then
an unexpected fall.  

All these planets form a T-square configuration, which is quite powerful.
But she also has another T-square, involving Jupiter in Pisces, Mars in
Gemini, and Pluto in Virgo -- this one is super-powerful and indicates
situations where there is force, violence, or criminality getting completely
out of hand. Her Pluto is flanked by the Moon and Venus, so Josie's love
nature, emotions, desire for beauty and luxury, etc. , would be somehow
closely tied in with these forceful/criminal situations.

It's really a good thing for Truman that he lost her, because he would never
have been able to comprehend the complexity of this woman, and the danger
of being involved with her.

Yes, it is truly astonishing how much these fictional horoscopes fitthe
fictional characters. I wonder if Lynch & Co. searched out the times,
and then used the horoscopes to create the characters.  My guess is that
they must have.

Regards, Lou

General Info:  
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July 24-26, 1992 
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Featured Guests of Honor:   
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Grace Zabriske:Laura Palmer's mother in Twin Peaks
James Hong: Big Trouble in Little China and Bladerunner
Kim Bailey
Artist Guest of Honor:  Jean Kluge

Also appearing:  Dennis Sakamoto, teacher at Stage One and appeared in
such shows and movies as M.A.S.H. and Gung Ho

Featuring:  *Dealer's Room*Casino Royale
    *Workshop panels*Art show and auction
    *24-hour gaming*Autographs
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Hotel Info:
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Special room rates are available.  
Call the Red Lion Inn for details and directions.
The hotel number is (408) 453-4000.

Other notable attendees:
Faces International 
Universal Studios

It's true that Julie Cruise will be touring with the 52's this summer.
The problem is that in order to be a B52, you have to have one. So, instead
of that horrible white hair, Juile will be sportin' s 52 wig 8)

-Melanie

In article <1992Jul20.053725.28911@engage.pko.dec.com>, boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place) writes:
|> 
|> ON THE AIR was broadcast on Independence Day. The Boston ABC affiliate
|> pre-empted it for a special on the annual Boston Pops Esplanade concert,
|> but it was broadcast on the Manchester, New Hampshire affiliate (allegedly,
|> anyway, I screwed up and set the timer to record the Boston channel).

Yeah, it was shown on channel 12 from NH on July 4. There have been a
total of three episodes shown so far.

-- "One time I removed all the hair from a mouse David E. Coufal with Nair-Hair just to see what it looked like. dcoufal@athena.mit.edu And it looked beautiful." - David K. Lynch dcoufal@dreyfus2.mit.edu "Let's hear it for the vague blur." - P. K. Dick coufal@cco.caltech.edu

In article <2A672727.18631@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:
> > In article <1992Jul14.044441.8692@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>> >>In article <1992Jul8.090619.1@geovax.ed.ac.uk> brigid@geovax.ed.ac.uk writes:
>> >>|The following comes from the Twin Peaks faq from a while ago:
>> >>|
>> >>|>    b)  Is this Miguel Ferrer the same one who's credited on the
>> >>|>recording of "Fishheads"?
>> >>|>--Yes, Ferrer was part of Barnes and Barnes who recorded "Fishheads"
>> >>|>(Bill Mumy was the other half).  Ferrer and Mumy also make up
> > 
> > Now, who was Bill Mumy again?  Eddie Munster?
w           r
Warning, warning!! Obscurity due to lack of stateside re-run alert, WILL
ROBINSON.

He was the charming little man from another Television place, Lost In Space.

Dealwis: Foot for Tort.

In article <1992Jul20.115200.5489@pdn.paradyne.com>, pitchon@paradyne.com
(Howard Pitchon) wrote:
> > Question: In the  last episode, the  Log Lady says  that her husband 
> > brought  home the oil a  few days before he  died. I thought he died 
> > the night they were  married (from an earlier episode).  Can someone 
> > explain the incongruity. 

Two possibilities.
1. she called him 'my husband' in retrospect, even though they weren't
married at the time he brought the oil home.
2. another continuity glitch.

> > Question:  I  have:  the  TP  Access  Guide,  The Autobiog. of Agent 
> > Cooper,  LP's  Diary,  TP-Behind  the  Scenes, and Cooper's Tapes to 
> > Diane. Are there any other books or tapes? 

I believe there was another book that was taken off the market after a
successful suit by L&F, but I don't recall its name.

> > Also, I know  that the pilot  and the first  seven episodes are 
> > available on video (any good video store can order them for you). 
> > There are also collector cards. 
> > Does anyone know if there are any other collectibles? and where 
> > to get them? 

The true pilot is not available on tape. What is is the so-called
'Euroversion' which is 95% the same as the pilot but with an alternate
ending. It was distributed in Europe as a 'stand alone' VCR movie while the
first year was running in the US as a TV series.

The whole series (except the pilot) was available on Japanese laserdisks
(with J subtitles).

The Twin Peaks Gazette published two issues. There are numerous T-shirts (I
particularly like the TP High School) and some coffee cups. Most of this is
probably still available through the Alpline Blossom Gift Shop in
Snoqalmie. Check out the FAQ on audrey.sait.edu.au.

> > Question: I read somewhere that Frank Silva (Bob) worked on  the set 
> > of  TP  and  when  Lynch  saw  him,  he  knew  he  had found the Bob 
> > character. Anyone know if this is true?

Yes. He was a set dresser.

-Rich Haller

In article <rhaller-210792093914@rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu> rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller) writes:

> >   The true pilot is not available on tape. What is is the so-called
> >   'Euroversion' which is 95% the same as the pilot but with an alternate
> >   ending.

Which is the alternate ending of the Euroversion ?. It is not Leland ?

> >   The whole series (except the pilot) was available on Japanese laserdisks
> >   (with J subtitles).

Here in Japan is also available in tape. I think that even the pilot.

>> >>   > Question: I read somewhere that Frank Silva (Bob) worked on  the set 
>> >>   > of  TP  and  when  Lynch  saw  him,  he  knew  he  had found the Bob 
>> >>   > character. Anyone know if this is true?

> >   Yes. He was a set dresser.

When the WOW (japanese channel) broadcasts its TWIN PEAKS specials (the whole
series in a 28 hours run), they included the TP Report, that is information
about the forest, the pies, the fashion etc in TP. And they also include
lots of interviews with the cast and Frost, Badalamenti, Jennifer Lynch and 
others.
Frank silva is also there, and confirms the story about how Bob was "created".
I thought that this TP Report was made in US (something like "The making of..")


Manuel@Japan

Please be patient with a newcomer to newsgroups and this particular group. 

Can anyone supply basic info on FWWM and what is On the Air?? 

Also, has anyone noticed how the structure of TV programs differs from country
to country? I saw most of TP in the USA, and then some of the same episodes in
Australia. The two countries put the advertisements in different places and
different quantities in each episode, giving a slightly different feel to the
show. Having also seen some episodes on video, I found I actually liked the ads
being there-- it gave you a break from the density and intensity.

Garry Stevens
Dept of Architectural and Design Science
University of Sydney
Australia

Hello all!

I find myself going to the Seattle area at the end of August. Could someone
please post or mail me info on traveling out to North Bend and some of the
other locations that were used in the show.  I remember some of ya had posted
your travels to the sites and also posted what you were able to find.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance!



Cheers!


Don Kasprzak

In article <MJ1078.92Jul22111731@taurus01.taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp>,
mj1078@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp (mmanuel pece) wrote:
> > 
> > In article <rhaller-210792093914@rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu> rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller) writes:
> > 
>> > >   The true pilot is not available on tape. What is is the so-called
>> > >   'Euroversion' which is 95% the same as the pilot but with an alternate
>> > >   ending.
> > 
> > Which is the alternate ending of the Euroversion ?. It is not Leland ?

Correct. Spoiler for Euroversion ahead.


















Bob is portrayed as a real person, not someone possessing Leland.
He is cornered in the basement of the hospital and killed, by Mike/Girard,
I believe. A decription is available via ftp from audrey.sait.edu.au.

> > When the WOW (japanese channel) broadcasts its TWIN PEAKS specials (the whole
> > series in a 28 hours run), they included the TP Report, that is information
> > about the forest, the pies, the fashion etc in TP. And they also include
> > lots of interviews with the cast and Frost, Badalamenti, Jennifer Lynch and 
> > others.
> > Frank silva is also there, and confirms the story about how Bob was "created".
> > I thought that this TP Report was made in US (something like "The making of..")

Perhaps I missed hearing about this while I was on vacation, but this is
the first time I've heard about 'the TP Report'. I'm pretty sure it has
never been shown in the US.

-Rich Haller

In article <1992Jul22.061102.6998@ucc.su.OZ.AU>,
garry@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Garry Stevens) wrote:
> > 
> > Please be patient with a newcomer to newsgroups and this particular group. 
> > 
> > Can anyone supply basic info on FWWM and what is On the Air?? 
> > 
> > Also, has anyone noticed how the structure of TV programs differs from country
> > to country? I saw most of TP in the USA, and then some of the same episodes in
> > Australia. The two countries put the advertisements in different places and
> > different quantities in each episode, giving a slightly different feel to the
> > show. Having also seen some episodes on video, I found I actually liked the ads
> > being there-- it gave you a break from the density and intensity.

Lynch or Frost, I'm not sure which, was quoted as saying they liked having
the commercials to break it up.

TP was shown without commercials in the UK. Unfortunately, it was preempted
by the snooker championship while I was there.

-Rich Haller

Where is  everyone?? I will try one more time:
(I'm also a newcomer, so maybe my postings are not getting out)
Question:
Does anyone have a source of video taped sets of the Twin Peaks
episodes?

I've tried this before, and since no one answered, I'll try again.  Who knows
about getting video tapes of the TP episodes?  I read something here long ago,
about sets available.

Still I haven't heard anything on FWWM's release in Canada...
ANYONE know the dates?

Tom Buzzeo              tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta

Here in Toronto we get On The Air the Wednesday before it airs
on ABC on the Saturday.  On both days it has been cancelled 3 weeks
in row. On the CBC they replaced it with Doogie Howser or something
like it.  On ABC they replaced it with the Aids Benefit and then
Miss America.

Ok, the Aids Benefit is a good reason to pre-empt a show, but the
others???????????????????????????????

ferenc

I guess my first post didn't make it.  I'm just trying again.  Sorry for
the inconvenience.  Hope to post something of substance soon.


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In article <1992Jul22.061102.6998@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, garry@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Garry Stevens) writes:
> > Please be patient with a newcomer to newsgroups and this particular group. 
> > Can anyone supply basic info on FWWM and what is On the Air?? 

"On the Air" was a Frost/Lynch TV sitcom about a 1950's TV variety
show on a podunk "network."  It was hosted by the smarmy fellow who
played Dick Tremayne on TP, and all sorts of disasters happen live
on the air.  Sort of a "Soupy Sales meets Taxi" except in a TV station.
It lasted three episodes, one of which was pre-empted in my area.
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In article <HLuRNB1w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Tom Buzzeo) writes:

> >Yes, I have one sound of the little man saying:
> >"Wow Bob, wow"...
> >Which surrisingly says...
> >"Wow Bob, wow" when using Farlons SoundEdit...
> >:o)

> >Tom Buzzeo              tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
> >Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta

Wouldn't "Wow Bob, wow" be reversed into "wow, boB woW"? Just a pedantic 
question.

Q1:

this question has probably been asked a thousand times, so here's a thousand 
and one- when is FWWM going to be released in the U.S.? i've heard mixed 
reviews from someone in England, where it has already been released.

Q2:

what is the deal with the "Twin Peaks" soundtrack?  there are like three or
four different songs by Badliamenti that are the same, only played on different
instruments.  were there that many different versions played in the t.v. show?
i saw every episode and i don't recall that many.

Q3:

does Lynch plan do anything else with TP after FWWM?  i'm speaking in terms
of maybe another movie just dealing with Coop and his life b4 TP, but since all
that is in the book, probably not.

Q4:

are there plans to release the entire cooper tape collection (Diane Vol. II)
the first one deals with Coop about a week b4 TP and up until right after
he gets shot, so there's still a lot of unaccounted tape.

Q5:

for arguments sake:  who really won the chess game, Coop or Windom?
i say Coop because at least he's still alive, albeit in the black lodge


send replies to V085PCQR@UBVMS

(or just post it!)

"you look like you're wearing a tuxedo!

    ---maybe I am!!"

Matt Surowiec

------the opinions above do not represent the opinions of the University of
                          Buffalo, because frankly, they couldn't care less-----

I have only recently discovered the delights of Agent Cooper's
search for truth; two years ago, I gave up on tv and got rid of
the set.

Now I have a tv again, and a VCR. Because I enjoy David Lynch's films,
I rented the Twin Peaks pilot, and the first seven episodes, from
Tower Records. Unfortunately, that is the extent of their collection.

I am in search of a generous person in the Cupertino area who is
willing to loan me their videotapes.  

Thanks in advance,

romana

RYAN@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu writes:

> >   Where is  everyone?? 

"The question is:  Where have you _gone_?"


> >I will try one more time:
> >  (I'm also a newcomer, so maybe my postings are not getting out)
> >   Question:
> >   Does anyone have a source of video taped sets of the Twin Peaks
> >   episodes?

If you mean a-sold-in-the-stores set, I don't think it exists.

Kevin

In article <BrtADu.Eu3@acsu.buffalo.edu> v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MATTMAN - RAEL IMPERIAL AEROSOL KID) writes:
> >Q1:

> >and one- when is FWWM going to be released in the U.S.? i've heard mixed 

Last week in August.

> >Q2:

> >what is the deal with the "Twin Peaks" soundtrack?  there are like three or
> >four different songs by Badliamenti that are the same, only played on different
> >instruments.  were there that many different versions played in the t.v. show?
> >i saw every episode and i don't recall that many.

Yes, there were all those arrangements of the same bit, and then some.
Sometimes it's interesting to note the similarities -- Audrey's theme
("Freshly Squeezed") mutated into Donna's theme in the second season
(with a clarinet instead of a vibraphone).  Maybe this was a hint that
the two are really sisters?  :-)

> >Q3:

> >does Lynch plan do anything else with TP after FWWM?  i'm speaking in terms
> >of maybe another movie just dealing with Coop and his life b4 TP, but since all
> >that is in the book, probably not.

He's said he'd like to.  Whether enough people care about it, though...

> >Q4:

> >are there plans to release the entire cooper tape collection (Diane Vol. II)
> >the first one deals with Coop about a week b4 TP and up until right after
> >he gets shot, so there's still a lot of unaccounted tape.

Not that I've heard.

> >Q5:

> >for arguments sake:  who really won the chess game, Coop or Windom?
> >i say Coop because at least he's still alive, albeit in the black lodge

I don't think the game ended.  The last move was Windom taking Coop's
queen.  I was waiting for them to reveal that Coop was playing the
legendary "Queen Sacrifice Gambit", tricking Windom into checkmate.

Of course, Windom wasn't really the one playing the chess game, IMHO...
it was BOB, and Windom was just a piece on the board.

In article <1992Jul20.200942.6070@athena.mit.edu> dcoufal@athena.mit.edu (David E Coufal) writes:
> >
> >Yeah, it was shown on channel 12 from NH on July 4. There have been a
> >total of three episodes shown so far.

Can anyone out there please post a short summary of the plot of the
third episode, and an assessment of how good it was compared to the other two?
I was busy setting off fireworks when it was on, and forgot to set the VCR...
:^(

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In article <14633@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the
Frog here...) wrote:
> > 
> > In article <BrtADu.Eu3@acsu.buffalo.edu> v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MATTMAN - RAEL IMPERIAL AEROSOL KID) writes:
>> > >Q5:
> > 
>> > >for arguments sake:  who really won the chess game, Coop or Windom?
>> > >i say Coop because at least he's still alive, albeit in the black lodge
> > 
> > I don't think the game ended.  The last move was Windom taking Coop's
> > queen.  I was waiting for them to reveal that Coop was playing the
> > legendary "Queen Sacrifice Gambit", tricking Windom into checkmate.

Nope. What happened is that Windom detected that Coop was getting help from
someone else (Pete) and in a rage, swept all the pieces from his board and
started playing without rules.  That is, the board position at the time
would not allow him to capture the Queen legally as his next move.

So I guess it depends on whether you think Windom was correct in feeling
that Coop violated their agreement by using Pete. If so, then he Windom
wins. If not, then I don't know enough about chess to say whether the game
is forfeited by Windom's illegal move, or whether there is some lessor
penalty under generally accepted chess rules.

As far as the situation in the Black Lodge is concerned, if Coop eventually
escapes or is rescued, then he makes out better than Windom. If not, then
he may be in worse shape.  Wouldn't you rather be dead than a pawn of evil,
like Leland?

-Rich Haller

RYAN@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu writes:

> >I've tried this before, and since no one answered, I'll try again.  Who knows
> >about getting video tapes of the TP episodes?  I read something here long ago,
> >about sets available.
 
This question, which keeps coming up, and several others, bring up the 
point that the FAQ list needs to be resurrected and updated.

Who was last in charge of this?  I'm willing to start maintaining this,
if the last person who had it will contact me.

(I replied by e-mail to this person.)

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Rich Haller writes:

> >   Nope. What happened is that Windom detected that Coop was getting help from
> >   someone else (Pete) and in a rage, swept all the pieces from his board and
> >   started playing without rules.  That is, the board position at the time
> >   would not allow him to capture the Queen legally as his next move.
> >
> >   So I guess it depends on whether you think Windom was correct in feeling
> >   that Coop violated their agreement by using Pete. If so, then he Windom
> >   wins. If not, then I don't know enough about chess to say whether the game
> >   is forfeited by Windom's illegal move, or whether there is some lessor
> >   penalty under generally accepted chess rules.

In this case, the 'touch' rule would come into effect.  

If Windom Earl touched one of his own peices first and made an illegal move,
then he must move that piece that he touched to a legal location.

If he touched one of Cooper's pieces first then he would have to capture
that piece somehow legally.

If Windom said, "Just adjusting."  then he would have been permitted to touch 
a piece that was not fully on a square and place it more properly on the square.
I don't think he made such a statement. And if he did, he sure did a poor job
of adjusting his piece.

I'll check tonight to see who's piece he touches first.  Or maybe I'll
save that excitement for Saturday night.  I have a feeling that I won't
be able to tell though.

Kevin

p.s. The International Chess Fedration states quite clearly that if
it is impossible to take the queen and you do so anyway,  
you must have your soul removed.

Regarding Miguel Ferrer's role in Barnes and Barnes...

I pulled out my copy of the 1991 B&B release, "Loozanteen", on Rhino records,
and find the clear statement:

"Barnes & Barnes are Robert Haimer and Bill Mumy"

Also, almost all song writing is credited to Art & Artie Barnes, and Haimer
is clearly identified as "Artie" and Mumy as "Art".  So Miguel doesn't
appear to be an integral part of B&B after all.

However, looking back at a Best Of B&B CD, "Zabagabee", also on Rhino, one
finds that all but two of the songs were again by Art & Artie Barnes.  The
exceptions are "What's New Pussycat?" by Burt Bacharach and Hal David:-)
and "Pussy Whipped" by Barnes, Barnes, Jolliffe, and Ferrer!  So it may
indeed be the case that Miguel had *something* to do with these guys.  But
it's pretty clear that he isn't one of the two main "Barnes".

For what it's worth.
-- -larryy@apple.com "Shi Nou Kou Sho Inu Neko Programmer" - Takada Naoki

In article <1992Jul22.061102.6998@ucc.su.OZ.AU> garry@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Garry Stevens) writes:
> >Please be patient with a newcomer to newsgroups and this particular group. 
> >
> >Can anyone supply basic info on FWWM and what is On the Air?? 
> >
> >Also, has anyone noticed how the structure of TV programs differs from country
> >to country? I saw most of TP in the USA, and then some of the same episodes in
> >Australia. The two countries put the advertisements in different places and
> >different quantities in each episode, giving a slightly different feel to the
> >show. Having also seen some episodes on video, I found I actually liked the ads
> >being there-- it gave you a break from the density and intensity.
> >

Well on the BBC no ad's means you don't have to buy the video's if you
taped it from the beginning !!!

:-)

Neil

The following Article was recently published in the Australian "Sydney
Morning Herald" newspaper, and I though readers of this newsgroup might
find it interesting.
  Scott.
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JUST ANOTHER CRAZY LYNCH MOB

  It might seem strange that people usually knows for their industriousness
fly across the Pacific Ocean to be photographes in plastic sheets.

  But that is what Japanese fans of `Twin Peaks' do on group tours to
Snoqualmie, Washington, the town where the now-defunct television series
was shot. They pretend to be Laura Palmer, the high school homecoming queen
whose body, wrapped in plastic, is found washed up on the beach when the
series opens.

  Long asfter interest in the eerie David Lynch series has faded in the
rest of the world, Japan is in the midst of "Peaker" mania. Several
thousand fans attended mock funerals for Laura Palmer in Tokya and two
other cities earlier this year.

  Some people say there has even been an increase in the populatiry of
cherry pie, the food favoured by one of the characters, the FBI agent, Dale
Cooper.

  The new movie, `Twin Peaks : Fire Walk With Me', has been playing there
since the middle of May, although it won't open in the United States until
next month - a reverse of the usual pattern.

  But if all this seems strange, the strangest aspect of all might be this:
relatively few people here have actually seen the series. The show is
carried only on pay television satellite channel with a mere 900,000
subscribers.

  Since March 1991, the channel has shown the entire series six times and
it is now on the seventh round. Late this month, it plans to show all the
episodes in a 28-hour marathon.

  A servey taken by the station found that more than 30 per cent of its
subscribers joined just to be able to watch `Twin Peaks'.

  For those who don't subscribe, video-cassettes can be rented - or bought.
A complete set of 14 cassettes sells for US$750.

  Japan has also been awash in `Twin Peaks' paraphernalia. Cinemas showing
the movie are peddling `Twin Peaks' badges, baseball caps, T-shirts and
handheld fans. Bookstores are carrying Japanese version of the books like
`Laura's Diary', `Cooper Speaks Out' and `How to Be a Peaker'.

  Japan Travel Bureau, the nation's largest travel agency, has organised
six group tours, with a total of 300 people, to Snoqualmie. They stay at
the lodge where Cooper stayed, eat cherry pie at the diner where Cooper
ate, and lie on the beach where Laura's body lay. The five-day tour is
priced at US$2750 to US$3450.

  With its complicated plot and quirky characters, the television show was
a phenomenal hit when first broadcast in the United States in April 1990,
but was cancelled a year later as viewers lost interest.

  No-one can fully explain why `Twin Peaks' has generated such a cult
following in Toyko, especially since other American programs liek Dallas
and Dynasty, which were more successful in the United States, failed to win
big audiences in Japan.

  "The way it became popular was unprecidented," said Makoto Takimoto, a
film critic and senior editor of Jiyujikan, a leasure magazine. "I don't
think, generally speaking, that David Lynch's view of the world fits the
Japanese feeling. That's the point I have trouble figuring out."

          The New York Times

I imagine someone else has already plugged R&S here, but I'm going to do it
anyway.  Check it out on Nickelodian, 11-11:30am am Sunday PDT/EDT. It's
like nothing you have ever seen before. Once you get addicted, you can
check out alt.tv-ren-n-stimpy.

-Rich Haller                    "Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy!"

> >In article <1992Jul20.115200.5489@pdn.paradyne.com>, pitchon@paradyne.com
> >(Howard Pitchon) wrote:
>> >> Question: In the  last episode, the  Log Lady says  that her husband
>> >> brought  home the oil a  few days before he  died. I thought he died
>> >> the night they were  married (from an earlier episode).  Can someone
>> >> explain the incongruity.
> >
> >Two possibilities.
> >1. she called him 'my husband' in retrospect, even though they weren't
> >married at the time he brought the oil home.
> >2. another continuity glitch.
> >

Why should the Log Lady have to distinguish whether he was her husband 
at the time he brought the oil home?

Joji Matsuo
joji@twics.co.jp

Hi,

Did everyone catch Angelo Badalamenti (sp?) conducting the orchestra
at the opening ceremony in Barcelona?

Does anyone know when (if) FWWM will be released in Australia??


David
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Does anyone know if the entire series and the film pilot are available
on Laser Disc (NTSC?).  If so are they in stereo and complete and where
can I mail order a copy (please include cost of the set).  The UK video 
releases are fairly cheap transfers (using economy video tape) and the
sound does not seem like stereo at all!

Please email any responses,

Thanks in advance...

David Barker
<barker@dmpe.csiro.au>

It has been written in this group that Twin Peaks (the series) has been a 
big success in  Japan, and that the movie FWWM is a hit.
I myself posted an extract from the Tokyo Time Out that contained similar
ideas.

But i'm living here and i think that it is not such a big success.
It is most like a campaign orchested by the media. It is true that some
people talk about TP, and there are refences to it in many TV programs
(mostly Quiz). But only a few people have seen the series.

The series was broadcasted by WOW (the encoded channel that has an audience 
of one million peolpe) and then distributed in video.

I went to the very firt show of FWWM, and there was quite a lot of people,
but the theater was not full. You could see empty seats.


This morning i read an article posted by schoward@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Howard)

>> >>The following Article was recently published in the Australian "Sydney
>> >>Morning Herald" newspaper, and I though readers of this newsgroup might
>> >>find it interesting.
>> >>  Scott.
>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>JUST ANOTHER CRAZY LYNCH MOB

[ i have deleted some parts of the article ]

>> >>  It might seem strange that people usually knows for their industriousness
>> >>fly across the Pacific Ocean to be photographes in plastic sheets.

>> >>  But that is what Japanese fans of `Twin Peaks' do on group tours to
>> >>Snoqualmie, Washington, the town where the now-defunct television series
>> >>was shot. They pretend to be Laura Palmer, the high school homecoming queen
>> >>whose body, wrapped in plastic, is found washed up on the beach when the
>> >>series opens.

>> >>  Japan Travel Bureau, the nation's largest travel agency, has organised
>> >>six group tours, with a total of 300 people, to Snoqualmie. They stay at
>> >>the lodge where Cooper stayed, eat cherry pie at the diner where Cooper
>> >>ate, and lie on the beach where Laura's body lay. The five-day tour is
>> >>priced at US$2750 to US$3450.

I saw it on TV, but i didn't know it was a tour only for Japanese.


>> >>  Some people say there has even been an increase in the populatiry of
>> >>cherry pie, the food favoured by one of the characters, the FBI agent, Dale
>> >>Cooper.

It is true. Here in Fukuoka there is (at least) one coffe-shop that
has a "TP Menu".


>> >>  But if all this seems strange, the strangest aspect of all might be this:
>> >>relatively few people here have actually seen the series. The show is
>> >>carried only on pay television satellite channel with a mere 900,000
>> >>subscribers.

Lots of people talk about the series, but if you ask them they will say:
xx"i haven't seen it"


>> >>  Since March 1991, the channel has shown the entire series six times and
>> >>it is now on the seventh round. Late this month, it plans to show all the
>> >>episodes in a 28-hour marathon.

It was last Satruday, 25th. A way of compite with the opening ceremony of
the Barcelona Olympics, i guess.


>> >>  "The way it became popular was unprecidented," said Makoto Takimoto, a
>> >>film critic and senior editor of Jiyujikan, a leasure magazine. "I don't
>> >>think, generally speaking, that David Lynch's view of the world fits the
>> >>Japanese feeling. That's the point I have trouble figuring out."

Me too.

>> >>          The New York Times


By the way, it is strange how sometimes something that is no so succesful
in its original country becomes a big hit here. For example, there is a couple 
of spaniard flamingo singers ("Azucar Moreno") that you can hear these days
anywhere in Japan, but they are not so well known in Spain.

Manuel@Japan

This may have been brought up before (I've been away from USENET for
awhile), but I noticed that my cable company had a pay-per-view movie
called "Twin Peeks"; unfortunately, they didn't give a synopsis, but
from the other movies they show on the same channel, I have good
reason to believe it's an "adult" movie.

Has anyone seen this?  Is it in any way a parody on "Twin Peaks" (adult
or not), or is someone just trying to cash in on the publicity?

You can reply by email if you want to remain anonymous :-).
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I'll be visiting my sister in Seattle in August and wanted to have brunch at
the Salish Lodge (aka the Great Northern) on the 16th.  It turns out that
weekend will be the American premier of FWMM, with lots of activities planned
in the area.  Here's the information she sent me:

Are you in luck?  From August 14-16 is the first annual Twin Peaks Fest in
North Bend and Snoqualmie.  The U.S. premeire of "Twin Peaks - Fire Walk with
Me" on Aug. 16 in the North Bend Theater, but is already sold out.
Reservations are being taken for a possible second showing later the same day.
Tickets are also sold out for the dinner and breakfast with the stars at the
lodge, but many $35 tickets remain for a ceremony to present awards to the cast
members at the Snoqualmie Winery.  The price includes a barbecue lunch.  Other
events include a murder mystery dinner theater, "log lady" relay race, a
trivia contest, street dance, fun run and cherry pie eating contest at the
Mar-T cafe.  There will be a charge for parking in Snoqualmie and North Bend
during the festival, but visitors can park free at park-and-ride lots in
Eastgate and Issaquah and ride free to the festival on Metro buses that will
depart every 12 minutes.  For tickets to the awards presentation or for more
information call (206)888-4440 or (206)888-0321.

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From the July 26 San Francisco Chronicle/Examiner:

STOKING FANS' INTEREST IN 'TWIN PEAKS'

Town plans festival to celebrate U.S. premiere
of movie prequel, "Fire Walk With Me'

By Don Tewkesbury
Hearst News Service

Seattle

Although TV critics once pronounced "Twin Peaks" as dead as Laura Palmer, the
surrealistic series has refused to die.

Like unending "Star Trek" revivals to satisfy trekkies' insatiable desire, FBI
Agent Dale Cooper has been resurrected in a theatrical movie to assuage the
cravings of "Peaks" freaks addicted to the bizarre collection of characters in
a moody Washington state logging town.

At the show's peak, devotees across the nation regularly gathered for house
parties while watching the exploits of a quirky cast that included an enigmatic
lady who gets messages from a log; patch-eyed, drape-crazy Nadine;
straight-arrow Cooper's arch enemy, the evil killer Windom Earle; and Audrey
Horne, a '50s-style teen-age sexpot in tight sweaters and saddle shoes.

"Twin Peaks--Fire Walk With Me" will have its U.S. premiere Aug. 16 in North
Bend, Wash., which also is the first place in the United States planning a
festival based on a TV and movie drama. Most of the early episodes of the
"breakthrough" TV series and the exteriors for the theatrical movie were filmed
in the Snoqualmie Falls area.

The new movie, which like the eerie series stars Yakima, Wash. native Kyle
MacLachlan, already has been shown at the Cannes Film Festival and in Japan,
where current reruns of the original ABC series have become a runaway hit.

"The new movie was a much bigger hit in Japan than in Cannes," said Cathy
Runkle, spokeswoman for the first annual Twin Peaks Fest, scheduled Aug. 14-16
in North Bend and Snoqualmie.

"We've already gotten inquiries and reservations about the festival from as far
away as Pakistan, Australia, and Switzerland because some young fan of the
show put the festival information on a computer network bulletin board," she
said.

Dedicated "peakies" from the United States, Europe, and Asia still regularly
visit the two small King County towns to view such "Twin Peaks" locales as the
Salish Lodge (seen as the exterior of the Great Northern Hotel in the TV
series) and to patronize the Mar-T Cafe (alias the Double R Diner, where Agent
Cooper praised the "damn fine coffee").

"Twin Peaks" creator-director David Lynch is scheduled to be on hand for the
three-day festival along with many members of the regular Lynch mob, including
featured movie performers Sheryl Lee (who portrays Laura Palmer); Ray Wise (who
plays Laura's father, Leland Palmer); Catherine Coulson (the "log lady"); Moira
Kelly (who plays Laura's best friend, Donna Hayward); and James Marshall
(Donna's secret boyfriend, James Hurley). Appearances by several others also
are pending.

"Because of his busy schedule, Kyle MacLachlan can't make it," Runkle said.

Tickets already are sold out for the premiere of the movie in the 375-seat
North Bend Theater, Runkle said. However, she said, reservations are being
taken for a possible second showing later the same day. (The movie will not be
released nationally until Aug. 28.) Tickets also are sold out for a dinner
with the film's stars at Salish Lodge. Last week, about 50 tickets remained
for a breakfast with the stars at the lodge.

However, many $35-per-person tickets were available for a ceremony to present
awards to cast members Aug. 16 in a 3,000-seat amphiteater at the Snoqualmie
Winery. The price includes a barbecue lunch.

The stars also can be seen at a separate "Twin Peaks" characters' look-alike
contest. A small fee is being charged to enter the contest "only because we
want to avoid big crowds of participants," Runkle said.

Peakies looking for a unique souvenir can buy a raffle ticket for the former
Snoqualmie police car that was driven in the TV series by Agent Cooper.

There were also be a murder-mystery dinner theater and lots of free events,
including a "log lady" relay race, a trivia contest, street dance, fun run and
cherry pie eating contest at the Mar-T cafe, where wide-eyed Agent Cooper said
"cherry pies go to die."

"We decided to rule out a fire-walking demonstration, because of the high cost
of fire insurance," Runkle said.

"Twin Peaks" expressed Lynch's vision that small-town America, sheltering the
secrets of the murdered Laura Palmer, was not as wholesome as it seemed. The
new movie, also directed by Lynch, is a prequel, showing Laura's haunted and
disnintegrating life in the days before her death.

With its complicated plot and weird characters, the TV series was a phenomenal
hit when first broadcast in the United States in April 1990. But as the story
dragged on, becoming more far-fetched without resolving the murder mystery,
viewers lost interest and the program was canceled a year later.

Runkle said she could not truthfully say the Snoqualmie festival would be an
annual event "because this has turned out to be an awful lot of work for a
bunch of part-time volunteers. It's already become a full-time job for me and
members of my family."

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In article <1992Jul27.012223.2191@bohra.cpg.oz.au>, davids@bohra.cpg.oz.au (David Schulz) writes:

> > Did everyone catch Angelo Badalamenti (sp?) conducting the orchestra
> > at the opening ceremony in Barcelona?

Yes!  (sp is ok)

> > Does anyone know when (if) FWWM will be released in Australia??

Try Oct/Nov 92 (latest info from Hoyts)
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This is my first posting to alt.tv.twin-peaks, but a posting from
about two weeks ago really caught my attention.  It was a discussion
of the astrological signs of several of the twin-peaks characters.  I
am wondering if similar postings have been made in the past, or people
will continue them in the future?  I'm also wondering if anyone knows
the sign of Julie Cruise, who I believe wrote the theme song to the
series.  Thank you for your help.

I've noticed serval posting re : astrology charts for the characters
of TP.  Could anyone tell me which characters' charts were done?
(And maybe how I could get a copy of them?)

Also there's been mention of a FAQ.  Does anyone know anything about
this, and again, where I can get a copy?

Thanks,

Morgana

From much of my reading of alt.tv.twin-peaks, I've gathered that the
series was `cancelled' due to lagging interest and not the fact that the
writers/producers wanted to end the series.

Does this mean the writers had planned to continue the story on from
Cooper's `possession' in the final episode, or did they know in advance
that this was to be the final one so they left it here on purpose??

Another question: Someone mentioned that Windom Earle was possessed by
Bob at some stage - was this so? Or did Windom just go crazy after the
`shooting of Cooper's old girlfriend' saga?

Daniel.
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In article <1992Jul22.195200.9074@intacc.uucp>, zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) writes...

} Here in Toronto we get On The Air the Wednesday before it airs on ABC
} on the Saturday. On both days it has been cancelled 3 weeks in row. On
} the CBC they replaced it with Doogie Howser or something like it. On
} ABC they replaced it with the Aids Benefit and then Miss America.

} Ok, the Aids Benefit is a good reason to pre-empt a show, but the
} others???????????????????????????????

The ratings for the show were abysmal, and the general reaction to it has
been poor, so undoubtedly ABC decided to yank it.

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In a previous article, 9207987h@levels.unisa.edu.au wrote:
>From much of my reading of alt.tv.twin-peaks, I've gathered that the
> >series was `cancelled' due to lagging interest and not the fact that the
> >writers/producers wanted to end the series.
> > 
> >Does this mean the writers had planned to continue the story on from
> >Cooper's `possession' in the final episode, or did they know in advance
> >that this was to be the final one so they left it here on purpose??

I believe Lynch/Frost had plenty of warning that Twin Peaks was being canned 
by ABC.  ABC was nice enough to give them two hours to "finish" the series.  
Considering several key characters were knocked off during that last episode, 
seems to me the entire two hours was written to be "the end".  The possession 
of Cooper is even more exciting than killing him off.
> > 
> >Another question: Someone mentioned that Windom Earle was possessed by
> >Bob at some stage - was this so? Or did Windom just go crazy after the
> >`shooting of Cooper's old girlfriend' saga?

I don't think Earle was possessed by Bob.  Just nuts.  He seemed to "know" 
about Bob and/or the Black Lodge, but I think he learned that through his own 
investigations (ie the cave).  

> > 
> >Daniel.
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I want to send a letter of protest to NBC and I need NBC's address.
Could someone please mail me the address? 

My email address is: rgopu@cs.tamu.edu

Thank you.
Gopu


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In article <29JUL92.14271710@vax.clarku.edu> mcohen@vax.clarku.edu writes:
> >In a previous article, 9207987h@levels.unisa.edu.au wrote:
> >>From much of my reading of alt.tv.twin-peaks, I've gathered that the
>> >>series was `cancelled' due to lagging interest and not the fact that the
>> >>writers/producers wanted to end the series.
 
>> >>Does this mean the writers had planned to continue the story on from
>> >>Cooper's `possession' in the final episode, or did they know in advance
>> >>that this was to be the final one so they left it here on purpose??

> >I believe Lynch/Frost had plenty of warning that Twin Peaks was being canned 
> >by ABC.  ABC was nice enough to give them two hours to "finish" the series.  
> >Considering several key characters were knocked off during that last episode, 
> >seems to me the entire two hours was written to be "the end".  The possession 
> >of Cooper is even more exciting than killing him off.

No no no no no.  Once again -- the final episode was a CLIFFHANGER.  It
was the last two regular episodes of the season edited together and was
NOT intended as an absolute finale to the series.  True, Lynch and Frost
were getting vibes that the show was going to be dumped, but they were
already making plans for format changes for the next season that would
boost ratings.  Lynch is even still talking about a sequel movie if FWWM
does well enough.  The final episode was not the end.  The town lives on.

Sorry to rant, but I thought this had been settled a long time back.

>> >>Another question: Someone mentioned that Windom Earle was possessed by
>> >>Bob at some stage - was this so? Or did Windom just go crazy after the
>> >>`shooting of Cooper's old girlfriend' saga?

> >I don't think Earle was possessed by Bob.  Just nuts.  He seemed to "know" 
> >about Bob and/or the Black Lodge, but I think he learned that through his own 
> >investigations (ie the cave).  

Spoiler for Coop's "autobiography":

The book "My Life, My Tapes" implies that Windom was taken by the Black
Lodge before the Caroline incident, and that he destroyed Caroline in a
manner similar to Leland's destruction of Laura.

Kyle is on the cover of GQ with a reference to TP. There is a
story/interview with some TP content.

-Rich Haller

Some time ago (around middle of June, I think) someone posted the entire
script to "Fire Walk With Me" on Prodigy.  Did anyone happen to capture
it?  I only heard about this after-the-fact, and it has since been deleted
from the Arts club (under topic: movies) on Prodigy.
 
If so, has it ever been posted here?  I'm very interested in obtaining a
copy of the script, if anyone does have it.
 
Thanks.