Season 2, Episode 16: The Condemned Woman — February 16–March 27, 1991

kkawado@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Kevin Yasuo Kawado) writes:

> > Let's assume that Audry is WE's queen (which for the most part has already
> > been assumed by most).  I distinctly remember WE saying that he would gladly
> > sacrifice a queen as a means to an end (obviously not an exact quote).
> > I conclude that Audry's life is in danger and that WE will kill whenever
> > a piece is taken from the board.  When a white piece is taken, WE will
> > probably force Coop to kill someone unintentionally.  Let's let the plot
> > develop and see where it goes from there.

Why are so many posting assuming that Audrey is the queen? Was there 
something I missed in a trailer? It seemed to me to be a tossup between 
Donna, Audrey, and Shelley.

OTOH, Donna is essentially too unimportant for her death to have the 
impact we;ve come to expect, and Shelley would be much more use to Whydym 
Irrl [:-)] alive than dead -- he would have such sadistic fun having both 
her and Leo under his control...

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In article <5947@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) writes:
> > Remember how they always showed a FULL moon close-up when
> > night approached in each episode?
> > 
> > Well, in the last couple shows they close-up on a HALF moon,
> > Why? WHY? Y?!
> > 
> > -Matt

I assume that the sudden change from full moon to last quarter
indicates that a week has passed between episodes (darn confusing when
you're watching them back-to-back on the VCR :-) 

Then again, maybe it's just because Lynch's astronomy is not great..

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....I can't believe it.

How can they just pull the show like this, with so many unresolved
storylines??  I was sitting in my saturday-morning-coffeeshop-reverie
with a pile of local papers and the NY Times, ready to absorb war news,
and read the (front page--this is a small town) blurb about TP being cancelled
abruptly.

Wars and misery notwithstanding-- I FEEL SO HELPLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do we *do*?  Where do I write?  When do we march?

No kidding.....this show has been important to me.  I don't *want* to
reappear.

Ilana

Sorry to bring bad news but, I found this article in todays front page
section of the San Jose Mercury News.


TWIN PEAKS MAY SIP LAST JAVA

LOS ANGELES (AP) - "Twin Peaks" will be pulled from the ABC schedule after
tonight's broadcast in what could be the first move toward cancellation of the
bizzare television serial.

   ABC said Friday that the "Twin Peaks" ratings were a disappointment but
that the show would return in a different time later this season.

Last week, "Twin Peaks" finished in 85th place out of 89 TV shows ranked by
the A.C. Nielson system.

   "We have no idea when we will be on next," said a spokesman for the
producers of the show.  Traditionally, when a show is placed on indefinite
hiatus, it is doomed.

   Michael Saltzman, a spokesman for "Twin Peaks" producers David Lynch and
Mark Frost, said ABC ordered 22 episodes of the one-hour drama for the 1990-
'91 TV season.  The 16th episode is set for broadcast at 10 tonight (Chs. 7,
11, 13).



 Oh well I guess I won't have to stock up on any more blank tapes any time
soon.  But, seriously I think its time to start that letter writing campain
now.  Could the person who posted the address of ABC please repost so I can
properly address my letter bomb.


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With regard to the language that Eckhart's assistant was speaking,
I cast my vote for Hungarian (a non-Indo-European language, by the way [yes,
I know that's irrelevant {or is it?}]), & I'm going to tell you why.  In the
scene prior to this one, when Pete & Coop are discussing this & that behind
the swinging wooden door, Pete mentions that the girl @ the laundromat is
apparently Hungarian & doesn't speak a word of English.  Posit:  Eckhart
& Co. sent that coat back with Pete to set up Josie to take the fall.  Possible
holes in this theory:  I think Pete mentioned the name of the Laundromat 
girl, who is a TP native, & Eckhart would have to know that the FBI has fibers
from the coat as evidence in the shooting.  Still, it's a nice idea.

On the subject of Hungarian being non-indo-european, this would account
for those familiar with slavic or germanic or whatever languages not being
able to recognize it.  I believe the only language that bears even a faint 
similarity to Hungarian is Finnish.  Enough trivia.

"Whatever exceeds the consumer's requirements is held violently"
-Thomas Aquinas
George.Harris@samba.acs.unc.eduGe|ge

Today's Philadelphia Inquirer says TP has been _cancelled_, and tonight's
episode is the last scheduled (with 6 more already produced episodes in the
can.) Any confirmation of this out there? The article was brief and said ABC
announced it yesterday (2/15.)

In article <23152@well.sf.ca.us> rsires@well.sf.ca.us (Ron Sires) writes:

 [On which language Eckhart was speaking]

> >My immediate impression was Russian (which IS a Slavic language, BTW).

It wasn't Russian. Whether it was intended to be, however, is another story.
Which brings up the point: they could have been talking babytalk. In which case
the question is pretty moot. I doubt that the TP folks would have actually
hired a language coach for a couple of lines. So unless they did and the actors
managed to pronounce things the way they're meant to be pronounced (which is 
seldom the case), guessing "Hungarian" has the same probability of being 
correct as guessing "Farsi".

Eugene Kushnirsky

"A room for two is HOW much?" --Thomas Eckhart speaking to his assistant 
                                in Farsi.
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Given the extent of TP video tape proliferation (illegal, but there)...
Given the fact that classic TV shows, like Star Trek, turn up on tape
eventually... 

Can we ask that, when TP is officially released, it include the six episodes
if they don't air them?  Furthermore, if TP is cancelled at this mid-point,
is a boycott of ABC possible (they don't have that much else that's good, 
anyways.  I'm sorry if I've offended the Doogie fans out there, but its 
true.)?

The dropping of ratings is no surprise, nor the final cancellation of
Twin Peaks.  ABC buried the damned show in a 10:00 PM timeslot on Saturday
night, perhaps ignoring the very demographic to which the show appealed.
The 18-35 yr. old yuppie-esque crowd to which the show has its appeal is
probably NOT even home on a Saturday night.  David Lynch was quoted as
saying that Twin Peaks fans are party fiends, and that's what they are
doing Saturdays...he said moving Twin Peaks to this timeslot just freed
up a weeknight for the party hearty people to whom the show would appeal.
Yeah, whatever.  He's right, though.  To top it all off, ABC was always
pre-empting it, moving it from 10:00 PM to 9:00 PM, not putting it on
for a week.  Really a stupid thing to do when you want to keep regular
viewers.

Television just became a bit duller again.


Where do we write?


Skip Haughay

Please, no more horses !!!!!!

Received by mail, posted with permission:

> >From: Michael Houdeshell <70003.4667@compuserve.com>
> >Subject: Re: more Twin Peaks alien talk
> >
> >I'd also point out that Kyle MacLachlan appeared in a movie several years
> >back (after Dune and Blue Velvet, both Lynch flicks), called "The Hidden,"
> >in which aliens took over human bodies, killed at will, and were only stopped
> >when an FBI agent (MacLachlan) from the Seattle office swept into town,
> >finally convincing the local law that all the killings, though done by
> >different people, were connected. Eventually, he was forced to reveal that
> >he was himself an alien, that his wife had been killed by this particular
> >alien, etc.

(By the way, the author of this would *REALLY* like to take part in this
newsgroup, but he's not on Usenet.  Is there any mailing list gatewayed to
and from this newsgroup?  If there is, please contact him and/or me.  I'm
aware of several gateways that allow posting into arbitrary newsgroups by
mail, but I'm not aware of any way to *receive* this group by mail.  Could
someone set something up?  [Don't look at me, I can't afford to.])


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       I usually don't swear, but this time I've really had enough! SHIT!

       What makes me even more mad is that the newsgroup will have little
reason to exist. Making up episodes may last for a while, but c'mon, really..

       But as they said, it may come back after a while. Count me in for 
mailing to the ABC *@!!!%*@#. 

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So does anyone have any idea where we can write to save Twin Peaks?  I have not
yet begun ot fight.....

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Kimmy Robertson makes an appearance on Roger McGuinns latest
cd "Back From Rio" <which is a fantastic album and I recommend
it to all u byrds fans out there!!>

O.k., so, I finally find out there is a Twin Peaks board...to my great
delight.  Now, I find out it's being cancelled right when I start reading
it.  This is outrageous, caused by a combination of things, not least of
all ABC's scheduling blunder.  Count me in on the letter writing.  Just
somebody repost the address somewhere that I can find it...

Otherwise I suggest we all find Killer BOB costumes and start murdering off
some ABC execs...

(Just Kidding!!! I don't wanna get put in jail or anything!!)
-- Keith Bitely...Pro-Lifer, Resident of Raymond House, Republican, J.D. Salinger' Biggest Fan, Watcher of Twin Peaks, Thirtysomething and L.A. Law, Cleveland Free-Net addict, Resident of Maine, English and Sociology Major, War Supporter, Occasional Low-Life, Christian, DragonLance Fan, Lover of All, and Desperate.

In article <2635@beguine.UUCP> George.Harris@samba.acs.unc.edu (George Harris) writes:
> >I believe the only language that bears even a faint 
> >similarity to Hungarian is Finnish.  

Not really, but except for Estonian and maybe Sami (Lapp) all the
others are probably so obscure no one would recognize them.

> >Enough trivia.

OK.

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "The sun is one foot wide" --Heraclitus

This was the BEST episode since the LelaBOB series!!

Ben is back!!
     Jogging suit and celery? NO CIGARS?! Ben's a real health nut.

Albert is back!
     "just bust the bitch" --all right!

BOB -- oooh, yes!  Was he in Josie? (just an influence?)
     "Coop! What happened to Josie?"

The Dream Dwarf -- to let us know that Mike, Giant, et al have
   not abandoned Coop.

Who Directed???

Pretty funky with the drawer knob, huh?

Leo, "resume whittling"

-Matt Brockman

"Paper and Pete, right.  I'll do it alphabetically." --Lucy M.

I'll try to avoid spoilers.

If it had to be the last, this is certainly a great way to go out!  My
long wait for another Lesli Linka Glatter episode is fulfilled.  And
looky here, some OLD FRIENDS return just in time!!  Will ABC reconsider?

Doesn't Billy Zane look exactly like a young Warren Beatty?

Anyway, enough chatter.  Let's call and write.  If that doesn't work,
start calling LIFETIME!

It'd be horribly ironic if BOB had literally
the last word in the Twin Peaks universe...

"Yuo say Josie's dead....
 BOB is back......
 No TP next week?

  I'm depressed"

Bud


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In article <6072@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) writes:
> >Who Directed???

Glatter.

--
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           "The sun is one foot wide"  --Heraclitus

Write those letters, now!

Don't let this weekend pass w/o sending your letter.

I know how easy it is to put things off, so
DON'T LET THE WEEKEND END W/O YOUR LETTER:
1.  WRITTEN
2.  IN AN ENVELOPE
3.  STAMPED (29 cents)
4.  READY TO MAIL

We need everybody to write! (send two even)

ROBERT IGER, ENTERTAINMENT PRESIDENT
ABC
2040 AVENUE OF STARS 
CENTURY CITY, CA 90067

Just do it!

-Matt Brockman

In article <6072@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) writes:
> >This was the BEST episode since the LelaBOB series!!
> >
> >Ben is back!!
> >Albert is back!
> >     "just bust the bitch" --all right!
> >

Yes, and didn't you just get the faintest hint that Albert was 
 really ANGRY that Cooper had been shot and he was showing CONCERN and
 being PROTECTIVE of our dear Dale?  And he did in only the most Albert-like
 way.  Truly touching.     


> >BOB -- oooh, yes!  Was he in Josie? (just an influence?)
> >     "Coop! What happened to Josie?"
> >
> >The Dream Dwarf -- to let us know that Mike, Giant, et al have
> >   not abandoned Coop.
> >

I have to admit the last scene boggled my mind.  If this is truly
 the last episode of Twin Peaks ever to air, I think that this scene does
 in some way represent the best and most daring of the approach for which 
  TP is now justly famous (if not appreciated).  The White Light thing
 happened again, our Special Gifted Agent sees the destruction of Josie
 and the ever-corrupting influence of BOB, Truman being helpless to stop
 any of it.  The inexplicable dancing dwarf returns-- a code for the
 final inexplicability of Twin Peaks.  Josie in the drawer knob?  Can't
 figure it out, but it sure was creepy, and typical of the original 
 visuals of the series.

   If this was the last shot, I'm glad it looked like this.  (Did 
  anyone notice that in this episode they reproduced almost exactly the
  original opening shot of the show, i.e. the back of Josie's head
  as she is putting on her makeup?)  

   I mean, if TP has to go out, it HAS to go out on a dream sequence!              

   Adieu, TP.  Nous avons les ames solitaires.  
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First of all, I just watched the last *sniff* show
tonight, and I thought I'd bring up a connection I 
made..

I was incredibly frustrated by the ending of the episode,
especially the Videodrome-like Josie-face in the dresser
drawer knob.  Did BOB put her spirit inside the wood?
Does this mean the woods are haunted with the spirits
of his victims?  Does the Log Lady's log contain one
of these spirits?  Does this explain the preponderance
of wood and tree imagery and furniture in TP as a whole?
Can you tell I'm a film major?

We here at the U of Iowa intend to start a petition at
our student union to Save Twin Peaks.  We suggest that
you do the same, if you are a student, since we're
demographically important.  Please do anything in your
power to save Quality Programming... 

 
 


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The San Francisco ABC affiliate, Channel 7, announced that
ABC will be pulling Twin Peaks off the air after tonight's
(02/16/91) episode.  They said it was unknown whether or not
TP would return.  The only justification given was that TP
was 85th or 86th in the ratings, at the very bottom.

I want to encourage others to write to ABC if they wish to
bring TP back on a regular basis, at least to finish showing
this season's episodes and to conclude the storyline.

I picked up the address of ABC and Bob Iger (ABC president)
to write to off of a previous posting:

 Address of ABC President in charge of TP --
    Robert Iger - Entertainment President
    2040 Avenue of the Stars
    Century City, CA 90067

Anyone with better addresses of people at ABC to write to,
please post!
-- Richard Guion ---------------------------- "This product has | rguion@ralph.mips.COM | the official NINTENDO seal of ---------------------------- disapproval."

In addition to writing to ABC (hey, it worked with Star Trek, for one
year, at least), it might be help to write to OTHER networks, like Fox or
one of the cable networks; they might be interested in the extra ratings
they could get by picking up a cult show like TP, and the show might 
actually be improved by getting it out of the clutches of the Big 
Three, whose executives are clearly among the great moral cowards of
the Western World.

By the way, when writing to ABC, it may be helpful to avoid cursing
them out, that only makes you sound like a fanatic.  What you want to
do is be polite, and firm, and let them know how enormously disappointed
you are with the network for their decision, and that Twin Peaks was
really your only reason to watch anything on ABC, and so on.  It might
also help to point out how the show actually makes the network look
good, since it does show that they're willing to take a chance on an
unusual show because it's well done and interesting and offers some
quality entertainment.  I have a feeling a letter campaign like this
might actually do some good.  Telling them you're angry is one thing,
getting them to understand that there's something in it for them if
they keep Twin Peaks on the air, however, might get them to do just
that, and that is, after all, what we want.

1980:  Soap is canned with a wild cliffhanger ending...

1982:  The Greatest American Hero is moved to Friday night against Dallas
       and is canned after 6 episodes in that timeslot...

1987:  After a moderately successful opening run, Max Headroom is moved
       to Friday night against Dallas and Miami Vice and also dies after
       5 episodes...

1991, Feb 16:  Is anyone really surprised?

  I liked all of the aforementioned shows.  In fact, most of the shows I've
liked on the networks have come from ABC.  They have also canned them merci-
lessly.  Why do they bother?
  I ought to add that both Max Headroom and The Greatest American Hero
had unaired episodes when they were canned, and both returned briefly when
ABC was desperate.  Oddly enough, both were put against Magnum PI when
they did, which was another show killer like Dallas.

I think ABC has some very creative people on its programming staff, but
whoever or whatever is in charge of scheduling is an UTTER MORON...

Oh well, they didn't bring Starman back (not that I liked it), and it had
a relatively huge following so be sure to be really rude when you write to ABC
so you at least manage to offend someone... :-)

Here's a possible sample letter....

Dear ABC morons,
  You suck, BIFF says TWIN PEEKS IZ OSSUM!  Bring it back now or WILL NEVER
know what HAPPEND TO JOE-Z!  By the way, the NEXT BOZO who kills off David
Warner or gives him a bite PART DIEZ!  He is MY FAVURRIT ACTER!  Why KANT
he PLAE WINDUMB?

MINE TRULY,
WINDOM BIFF


Ah well, it was fun while it lasted...  I guess there will be another really
neat show in about 3 years.  Until then, I'll have to settle for STTNG
and Gulf War updates...

Scott Le Grand

In article <45973@mips.mips.COM> rguion@mips.COM (Richard Guion) writes:
> >The San Francisco ABC affiliate, Channel 7, announced that
> >ABC will be pulling Twin Peaks off the air after tonight's
> >(02/16/91) episode.  They said it was unknown whether or not
> >TP would return.  The only justification given was that TP
> >was 85th or 86th in the ratings, at the very bottom.

According to the Global Television Network (who carry TP in Ontario),
TP will not be seen on Feb. 23, but will return March 2nd.  They did 
NOT say if this would be a new show or a repeat however.

Brad
crafton@psych.toronto.edu

This episode was EXCELLENT.  The best episode yet since Leland's death.

Some of the highlights:

o Ben deciding he'd run for Senate.  Man, he'd make a great
  politician!

o Norma finally telling Hank off.  (Geez, I was wondering if
  she'd ever see through Hank's "I'll shape up" speeches).

o Josie fainting at the sight of Andrew.  I loved it.

o The departure of James (YAY!).  I can live with Donna, but
  James had to go.  Too bad we won't get to see more episodes
  without him.

o The shot of Josie in front of her mirror, painting her lips --
  the exact same shot that the whole series opened with.  It was
  almost like coming full circle, connecting the last episode with
  the first.  Truly stunning.

o The final scenes.  Josie dying mysteriously (heart attack?),
  BOB's return.  The LMFAP.  Josie in the nightstand knob.  Sort of
  reminds me of the Log Lady and her log.  Did anyone else get the
  impression that this whole sequence was added after hearing the
  suspension/cancellation news?

I'll really be mad if they truly end it here.  I want to at LEAST see the
rest of the season.  Remember, write Bob Iger NOW:

Robert Iger, Entertainment President
ABC
2040 Avenue of the Stars
Century City, CA   90067

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I take it that the riddle is intended to see who amongst
the three "angels" has the qualities to be WE's Queen.
Whoever is intelligent and resourceful enough to 
interruput the riddle is the prefect intellictual
match for WE.  So I can say that we can count Donna
out, afterall she liked James not much subtance there 8-).
Then Shelley she really does not seem forceful enough.
That leaves Audrey who appears to be very capable.
But alas and alack all this is mute....sigh.

Sally--Now I have to get a life--A. Wilson


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In article <1991Feb17.041832.16826@ms.uky.edu> bud@ms.uky.edu (William K Glunt) writes:

Possible spoilers about 2/16 for the very faint of heart:

> >
> >It'd be horribly ironic if BOB had literally
> >the last word in the Twin Peaks universe...
> >

You know what would be even more horrific:

The BBC is currently showing Twin Peaks and are around 2006 or something.
What if they were to pass us up? :-)

I don't really think this will happen, but just the thought of it is scary.


Eric C. Johnson
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This was MY least favorite episode of the entire series right up until
the last few minutes.

BOB is 'alive' and well apparently.  And the man from another place made 
another appearence.  All sorts of possibilities present themselves.

I feel that pegging Josie as the one who shot Cooper was lame.  Perhaps
they'll be able to do a better job of working this out in the future.

Speaking of the future, I suspect that we haven't heard the last of 
Laura Palmer.  Why else are they still showing her picture with the
credits?  Also, if Josie can be sucked into a knob...


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To be honoust, I didn't like most of this episode.  It was shaping up
to be MY least favorite of the entire series.  Then, they hit me with
the last two minutes.  Just when I was wondering if there would be 
anything at all that I liked.

Major wierd.  BOB is 'alive' and well apparently.  The man from another
place is again involved...  All sorts of possibilities present themselves.

I really felt that peging Josie as the person who shot cooper was lame.  
Perhaps they'll be able to do a better job of working this out in the future.

Speaking of the future.  We haven't heard the last of Laura Palmer.
Her battle with BOB will not be over until BOB has ceased to be.

OK, so maybe that sounds a bit wild.  But they still show her picture at
the end of the show, and I've come to the conclusion that very little
happens without intent.
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> > This may be a stupid question, but if W.E. kills a real person every
> > time he takes a piece, then why doesn't Cooper just decline to make his
> > move?

As Windom Earle said to Coop on the tape he left on Coop's bed under the mask,
"Print your move in tomorrow's paper, or I'll make the move for you."  (not an
exact quote)

I can empathize with the spot Coop is in.  If he doesn't make a move, WE will
make it for him.  The latter would, of course, lead to disastrous results that
Coop wants to avoid.

And I find it relatively humorous that Pete, of all people, is a chess expert.
8-)

In spite of the possible cancellation of TP, I shall pose these questions
to the general fanatic public, hoping to gain some insight for myself.

1)  When are they going to bring Major Briggs in "from the woods"?  I don't
    like that they've left that plot line hanging.  Now, since I missed
    most of the first season, (I'm planning ot correct this next weekend
    when ABC won't be showing our show) I missed quite a bit of the Briggs
    subplot. What's the deal with the Owls and the "message from outer
    space," and all that?  Could someone generate a brief summary and email
    it, or give me an address for a location that has plot summaries online
    (ftp sites will be fine)?

2)  Again, due to my oblivion during the first season, I have no concept as
    to how much of an evil little person Josey is/was (questions about
    that, too, in a minute).  It seems to me that Harry was a little stupid
    about the whole thing, or MASSIVELY in love with this traitor (or
    "bitch" as Albert termed her (amen for progressive tv!!)).  His
    expressions at the final confrontation with Coop and Josey were
    *wonderful*.  Well played.  A man who has had enough, but still doesn't
    want his little angel to get hurt.  What an actor!

3)  Reiterating Bob's question (and I played it back several times to make
    sure I heard it properly), "What happened to Josey?"  As I understand
    it, and as seems to be the general consensus on the group, Bob is not
    incarnate in anyone at this point.  How has he managed to remove Josey
    from the realm of reality and put her in his own private hell?  I'm
    convinced that he did "steal" Josey from the world of Twin Peaks.  As
    she collapses on the bed, you can hear Bob laughing in the background.
    At first I thought it was the wind or something, not knowing what to
    expect (should we ever know what to expect from this show?), but after
    Bob made his appearance, I played it back, and sure enough, it's Bob
    back there.  Yow!  What is the significance of his appearance to Coop?
    Is he now playing with Coop the way WE is, too?  What significance did
    the dwarf have, returning to dance on the bed where Josey killed TE?  I
    had heard theories that the dwarf represented Leland in Coop's dream,
    but this new vision seems to blow that theory out of the water (Leland
    is still dead, as I recall).  And why did I seem to feel that the
    entire segment was incomplete because we didn't see the Giant?  Will he
    be returning?

4)  Is Coop going to tell Harry about his vision of Bob and the dwarf?
    Hmmmmm.....

And now, the most important question currently:

    WHAT IS ABC's MAILING ADDRESS??  It's time to start a letter-writing
    campaign to keep this wonderful show on the air.  Letter campaigns have
    worked in the past.  Obviously, ABC needs to know that there are a
    large number of us regular followers who watch the show religiously.
    It may not show in the Nielsens, but we ALL know how large a following
    there is.  This group helps to prove that point.  The lack of
    "previews" is disheartening, to say the least.  Guaranteed, though,
    that when the next episode IS run, I will be watching or taping it.
    But a mass of mail from a group such as this one would be enough in
    their program directors' eyes to keep the show alive.  So grab a pencil
    and paper, or hell!  even print out a letter, but get it in to ABC mui
    pronto.  We need to act FAST if our livelihoods are to be maintained!


-Fen

"Into what I have said no gleam of reason has been allowed to intrude;
 and I can think of scarcely a single error, however ancient and obscure,
 which I have failed to propagate."

            Internet:       fen@toyshop.lonestar.org
            UUCP            ...{ernest,tsci,egsner}!shibaya!toyshop!fen

In article <2149@novavax.UUCP> hal9000@novavax.UUCP (Computer Science) writes:
> >Why couldn't Shelley have simply crashed through the plastic like Leo
> >did??  I mean, wouldn't that have been the next logical exit after she
> >found the doors were locked?  The moon or whatever was shining through
> >it so it was a visible enough escape route.  Somehow I enjoy the show
> >more when I don't think about these things!!

Actually, the stuff they use in construction work is quite thick, and since it
is probably stapled to 2x4's, 18 inches part, if you took a run at it, you'd
probably bounce back across the room.  I don't recall, but I think Leo barged 
through the already slashed section.  If not, it only enhances his reputation
as the brain-dead Frankenstein of the 90's!!

jimbo

In article <1991Feb17.043440.19372@midway.uchicago.edu> lecl@quads.uchicago.edu (elizabeth e. leclair) writes:
> >
> >   If this was the last shot, I'm glad it looked like this.  (Did 
> >  anyone notice that in this episode they reproduced almost exactly the
> >  original opening shot of the show, i.e. the back of Josie's head
> >  as she is putting on her makeup?)  

I noticed that too.  I was thinking that if this is the last episode at least
we've come full circle.

-- Scott Amspoker | Touch the peripheral convex of every Basis International, Albuquerque, NM | kind, then various kinds of blaming (505) 345-5232 | sound can be sent forth. unmvax.cs.unm.edu!bbx!bbxsda!scott | - Instructions for a little box that | blurts out obscenities.

A neat episode!

I wonder if Truman will start carrying around a nighttable knob?  He could
double-date with the Log Lady!

Seriously, I suspect that what happened to Josie is what happened to Margaret's
late husband.  In each case their spirit fled their body to avoid imminent death
and took up residence in the nearest wooden object.  (Actually, "fled" may not
be correct -- their spirits were apparently shifted to those objects by some
outside force).

On a different note... I'm still in shock at the cancellation news.  I'm hoping
that Global will continue showing the remaining 6 episodes, even if ABC doesn't;
if this proves to be the case, I'll gladly post synopses for our friends
south of the border (no, not the Mexicans; I'm posting from Canada).

In any case, I suspect Lynch/Frost will release the entire series (including
the missing 6 episodes) on video.  They'll probably make more money that way;
it worked for Madonna :-)

Now *there's* an interesting idea... a television series made specifically
for home video.  Anyone know if this has been done, or what the economics
would be?  One two-hour episode per month would be about right.
-- Bernie Roehl, University of Waterloo Electrical Engineering Dept Mail: broehl@sunee.waterloo.edu OR broehl@sunee.UWaterloo.ca BangPath: {allegra,decvax,utzoo,clyde}!watmath!sunee!broehl Voice: (519) 885-1211 x 2607 [work]

Does anyone else suscribe to the Twin Peaks Gazette?  I just got my first 
issue  last week.  The place to write is

Twin Peaks Gazette, P.O. box 1804
Pacific Palisades, CA 90272

I wonder what they are going to do with it now that the show is , as Bobby
would say, in drool mode.  This is my first contribution to this or any 
newsgroup, I hope I am doing ok.  
-Gian

A friend of mine is visiting Seattle in a few weeks and
he would like to visit the place that Twin Peaks is filmed
in. We've found out that the place is called Snoqualmie
(sp ?), but looking at his tourist map of the area there
seem to be quite a few Snoqualmie's (and even a park
called Twin Peaks!). Can anyone provide a definitive
location for the town where TP was filmed ? Please e-mail
any replies to me as I don't normally read this news group.

Thanks in advance.

//Paul

I know I'm going to be sorry for asking this, but has anybody else heard the
rumor that TP has been cancelled because of low ratings? The 2/16 episode had
no teaser at the end and I heard from a few people that it has been. However,
my TV guide has TP listed to be shown on 2/22. 
Please, Rod Johnson, don't let this question turn out to be another 1/26
fiasco. It's only a simple question.

In article <12246@ur-cc.UUCP> ma2cs240@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
(Gian Di Loreto) writes:

> >   Does anyone else suscribe to the Twin Peaks Gazette? I just got my first 
> >   issue last week.

I called up the 1-800 subscription number about six weeks ago, and was
greeted by a rather bored operator named "Tiffany". "You-will-get-your-first-
copy-in-two-to-four-weeks-and-the-mug-too-have-a-nice-day" was her
thanks for my support of the show. Definitly not a former L.L. Bean
operator. Anyhow, six weeks later, and no mug, no Gazette. The only
thing I got was a bill on my credit card. Sigh... :(

       Dan Tasman                 New Mexico State University, USA     
  dtasman@DANTE.nmsu.edu       City of Las Cruces Planning Department

  "I think that I shall never see, a billboard as lovely as a tree...
  Indeed, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at all..."

bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:

> >This episode was EXCELLENT.  The best episode yet since Leland's death.

Leland's death, hell.  The best since Maddie's death, I think.

> >Some of the highlights:

> >o Ben deciding he'd run for Senate.  Man, he'd make a great
> >  politician!

Senator Horne the environmentalist--frightening, *frightening* concept.  :-)

> >o Josie fainting at the sight of Andrew.  I loved it.

Yep.

> >o The shot of Josie in front of her mirror, painting her lips --
> >  the exact same shot that the whole series opened with.  It was
> >  almost like coming full circle, connecting the last episode with
> >  the first.  Truly stunning.

Absolutely.  I was going wild during that sequence, but since none of the 
people I was watching with started watching before this season, they couldn't
understand it.  Sigh...

> >o The final scenes.  Josie dying mysteriously (heart attack?),
> >  BOB's return.  The LMFAP.  Josie in the nightstand knob.  Sort of
> >  reminds me of the Log Lady and her log.  Did anyone else get the
> >  impression that this whole sequence was added after hearing the
> >  suspension/cancellation news?

I did, yes.  I was saying through most of the show, "you know, I'm not sure
if this show was deliberately crafted to be last or not--it doesn't look like
they knew."  Then they hit the last five minutes--"okay, fine, so they knew."

Something else which I absolutely adored--Andrew's conversation with Eckhardt.
I've been waiting ages for Dan O'Herlihy and David Warner to play off each
other--"Look at me.  I'm ALIVE!"  

And a quote which in some ways truly sums up Twin Peaks:  "You'll have to 
excuse me...the chef just tried to stab Jerry."  :-)

> >I'll really be mad if they truly end it here.  I want to at LEAST see the
> >rest of the season.  Remember, write Bob Iger NOW:

> >Robert Iger, Entertainment President
> >ABC
> >2040 Avenue of the Stars
> >Century City, CA   90067

Agreed.  I'm about to write mine now.

Tim Lynch (Cornell's first Astronomy B.A.; one of many Caltech grad students)
BITNET:  tlynch@citjuliet
INTERNET:  tlynch@juliet.caltech.edu
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Why are there so many songs about rainbows, and what's on the other side?
R.I.P. Jim Henson, 1936-1990; we shall never see your like again.

I thought this was an extremely uneven episode. The lowlights:

 1) Some painfully wooden acting, especially from James Marshall and Peggy
    Lipton (that scene in the diner, where you could practically see the
    cue card from which she was reading her lines).

 2) Good-oldfashioned police brutality from Hawk--this was just offensive.

 3) The obvious romantic subplot between Audrey and Ben's friend looks to be
    as boring as the James/Donna story.

The highlights:

 1) Albert is still in Twin Peaks.

 2) I was right about Josie.

 3) Great ending that redeemed everything that came before.

However:

 1) The deaths of two pivotal characters promise to leave many unanswered 
    questions, not the least of which is why Josie shot Coop (her explanation
    was idiotic).

 2) More distressing is the fact that the show is on hiatus (presumably in the
    same sense that Calvin Coolidge is on hiatus) as witnessed by the lack of
    promo for next week. Sigh.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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|  not original, and the part that is original is not good.   --S. Johnson  |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >I did, yes.  I was saying through most of the show, "you know, I'm not sure
> >if this show was deliberately crafted to be last or not--it doesn't look like
> >they knew."  Then they hit the last five minutes--"okay, fine, so they knew."

Funny how these things work out. It really did look like the end of a
season tonight. Remember, the sooner you write of call ABC, the sooner
well have our show back.

>> >>I'll really be mad if they truly end it here.  I want to at LEAST see the
>> >>rest of the season.  Remember, write Bob Iger NOW:
>> >>Robert Iger, Entertainment President
>> >>ABC
>> >>2040 Avenue of the Stars
>> >>Century City, CA   90067
> >Agreed.  I'm about to write mine now.

I have been informed that there is a better number to call for the
New York ABC Offices. Here are the numbers you should call to complain
to ABC.

   ABC (New York)   - (212) 456-7477  (Network Programming)
   ABC (Los Angeles)- (213) 557-7777  (General Information)

If you can, both WRITE and CALL.

-- David E. Coufal coufal@owl.caltech.edu SAVE TWIN PEAKS write: Robert Iger, President of ABC Entertainment 2040 Avenue of the Stars, Century City, CA 90067

In article <qBcgX3w163w@zitt> joe@zitt (Joe Zitt) writes:
> >kkawado@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Kevin Yasuo Kawado) writes:
> >
>> >> Let's assume that Audry is WE's queen (which for the most part has already
>> >> been assumed by most).  I distinctly remember WE saying that he would gladly
>> >> sacrifice a queen as a means to an end (obviously not an exact quote).
>> >> I conclude that Audry's life is in danger and that WE will kill whenever
>> >> a piece is taken from the board.  When a white piece is taken, WE will
>> >> probably force Coop to kill someone unintentionally.  Let's let the plot
>> >> develop and see where it goes from there.
> >
> >Why are so many posting assuming that Audrey is the queen? Was there
> >something I missed in a trailer? It seemed to me to be a tossup between
> >Donna, Audrey, and Shelley.
> >
> >OTOH, Donna is essentially too unimportant for her death to have the
> >impact we;ve come to expect, and Shelley would be much more use to Whydym
> >Irrl [:-)] alive than dead -- he would have such sadistic fun having both
> >her and Leo under his control...
> >
Alright...Audry is not necessarily WE's queen.  We know this from the last
episode.  However, the week before, WE only delivered his letter to Audry
and not any of the other girls.  It's quite obvious now that we won't know
who the queen is until we figure out the poem.  Then again, the way things
are going at ABC, we may never know.

Everyone reading, please write in to ABC to support _Twin Peaks_, at least
to finish the season.  I think the show would do much better on a weeknight
rather than Saturday night.

=K=

In article <1991Feb17.230741.27525@math.lsa.umich.edu> ekushnir@math.lsa.umich.edu (Eugene Kushnirsky) writes:
> > 1) The deaths of two pivotal characters promise to leave many unanswered 
> >    questions, not the least of which is why Josie shot Coop (her explanation
> >    was idiotic).

I thought it was pretty lame too until BOB appeared.  Then I thought,
"Oh, BOB is involved here.  BOB doesn't need reasons".

-- Scott Amspoker | Touch the peripheral convex of every Basis International, Albuquerque, NM | kind, then various kinds of blaming (505) 345-5232 | sound can be sent forth. unmvax.cs.unm.edu!bbx!bbxsda!scott | - Instructions for a little box that | blurts out obscenities.

If you liked the Josie in the knob scene, rent the Roman Polanski movie
"Repulsion," and don't watch it alone at night.

Bob Slugg

Can somone please post a transcript of the riddle
sent from WE to D/S/A?

Thanks in advance.

In article <1991Feb17.154615.8001@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>,
ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes:

> > (4) Will Shelley recognize Leo's handwriting?

Are we sure Leo finished writting that note.  His handwritting was very
shaky, more so that I remember the note looking when A/D/S read it.

> > (5)                  (and what was that thing Cooper was fooling
> > with just before Catharine called?)

I think he was working on his casting/fly-fishing.

(sorry if this seems familar to you Charles, but I am still learning how
to use news ... )

-mfr

Yup, just call me a member of the better late then never club:
I am searching for a generous ^TP^ soul who has the ability and
kindness to make me a VHS tape of the pilot episode, as well as
the 7 episodes from the first season.  I am willing to pay for time
and materials.....Please, can anyone help?

ObOpinion : the josie in the wooden knob was some-kinda spooky
for me, very disturbingly done.  And, well what can ya say about BOB?

.....................................

-=====-                       -=====-
  -=-    John  Exby  (guest)    -=-
   -  grubin@tramp.Colorado.EDU  -

It's great that we're all writing to ABC, but let me make a couple of
suggestions.

 * DON'T do some kind of form letter!!  Whoever uploaded his letter (in
TeX, yet -- why not a bitmap?? :-( ) with the recommendation to "copy
the text in the middle into your own letter" or words to that effect,
was doing a disservice.  USE YOUR OWN WORDS -- tell them what you really
think.  They know how to tell the difference, and it will MAKE a
difference.

 * DON'T use any kind of electronic delivery service, however tempting
that seems.  Type or laser-print the letter yourself, stamp it and mail
it.  Networks get computerized crap all the time, and they throw it out.

 * DON'T THREATEN THEM, you idiots!!  Don't take the name FOX in vain.
Fox doesn't want it anyway, and ABC wouldn't let them have it if they
did.  Ratings that embarrass ABC look good on Fox, and that's bad.
And don't threaten to boycott ABC.  These people care about their jobs;
don't tempt them to tell you to go **** yourself.

 * KEEP IT SHORT and to the point.  Say exactly what you mean, in as few
words as possible.  Try to imagine some overworked ABC secretary opening
your letter and reading it.  What would it take to make him or her put
it in the very short "show Bob's assistant" stack?  Three pages of
hysterical dot-matrix ravings ain't the answer.

 * Say who you are and what you do, in one sentence.  They are genuinely
interested in the demographics of people who care enough to write.  It's
something their tracking surveys and focus groups can't measure.

 * MENTION YOU TAPE THE SHOW AND WATCH IT LATER if you do!  Nielsen
can't handle this phenomenon properly.  Nobody tapes DOOGIE HOWSER.

 * ASK FOR A WEEKNIGHT SLOT (unless you disagree for some reason).
Saturday night killed STAR TREK and it's trying to kill TWIN PEAKS.
Things could only improve on a weeknight.

That's it -- do get out there and write!  Try to write effectively.

I don't think Josie did it.  I'm sorry-- but I just don't buy it.  Especially
since we saw no negative reaction from Josie towards Our Hero until this 
episode.

Weren't we told (in the original "Dream Sequence") that the Dancing Dwarf has
a direct connection to Bob?

Is the real Killer BOB president of ABC?  How can we get word to Coop who his
*real* enemy is?

Has anyone thought of sending the compiled comments on 1/26 to Lynch et al?
I'd bet that they'd be interested in seeing the creativity...
Better yet, how about sending them to ABC?  I think that that would show the
MGS in charge of the network just what kind of a following that TP has--
especially the comments from poor befuddled persons begging for tape copies 
of a non-existent episode.

I'm about to right my letter to ABC...  Have you yet?

In article <18804@brahms.udel.edu>, skip@brahms.udel.edu (Allen P Haughay Jr) writes...

} To top it all off, ABC was always pre-empting it, [...]

You must have a funny definition of "always". By my records, it was
pre-empted a total of twice -- that means two times -- on the 24th of
November and on the 26th of January. The three week period between the
15 Dec episode and the 12 Jan episode is par for television. Just about
*every* show gets interrupted during the holidays, it's just that it's
not quite so visible with other shows because they broadcast re-runs.
Given the serial nature of TWIN PEAKS, it isn't easy to just drop in a
random re-run.

In the 20 weeks since the beginning of the second season, we've seen
16 different episodes of TWIN PEAKS. That's probably a little higher
than average for a network show.

-- "Have you ever made love to a revolutionary?" "No, but I once necked with a Stevenson Democrat." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <60347@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> v053qgzj@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:

> >I'm about to right my letter to ABC...  Have you yet? 

 Yep.  It'll be rolling off the laser printer as soon as I
get in tommorrow.  Get writing folks!


Bud




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In article <6072@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) writes...

} BOB -- oooh, yes!  Was he in Josie? (just an influence?)

Actually, I began to wonder if maybe he was in Eckhardt. Maybe Josie's
cries that caught Coop's attention were due to Eckhardt trying to put a
letter under her fingernail? :-)

} Who Directed???

Lesli Linka Glatter, the best of the non-Lynch directors. The writer was
Tricia Brock, whose only other episode was the one that started the
"Internal Affairs" storyline and ended with the Major's disappearance in
the woods.

-- "Have you ever made love to a revolutionary?" "No, but I once necked with a Stevenson Democrat." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <3407@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> hough@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (sue hough) writes:
> >some kind soul give me a (brief) idiot's guide to the 
> >Josie/Ben/Catherine/Packard/Andrew/Mill/Great Northern/Ghostwood estates
> >plot line?  (As in, who is scheming to get what property, and for

Ditto.. ditto.. I am at least as clueless as Ms.
Hough.  Please send me whatever you send her.
Thanks very much!
6600kevc@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu

In article <7800@vanuata.cs.glasgow.ac.uk>, ullaha@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Asim Ullah) writes...

} Whilst watching a programme called 'The Word' (Channel 4 ,U.K), Kyle
} Mclachlan ,during an interview, was asked about Diane, i.e is he/she/it
} a real person/thing, he replied that he had always thought of Diane as
} a kind of Helen Mirren type of gal. Could this be a foreshadowing of
} future casting.....(perhaps)

No, it couldn't. It was announced back during the summer that they were
going to cast Carol Lynley as Diane.

-- "Have you ever made love to a revolutionary?" "No, but I once necked with a Stevenson Democrat." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

I missed the 2-16 episode!  My father taped the wrong channel!  Does anyone
have a copy (preferably in the NJ area) that I can view or copy or whatever?
Leave email, or better yet call 908-276-9667 (or 201-276-9667)

-Frank Rachel

In article <W26XXMQ@cs.swarthmore.edu> wall@campus.swarthmore.edu (Matthew Wall) writes:
> >Today's Philadelphia Inquirer says TP has been _cancelled_, and tonight's
> >episode is the last scheduled (with 6 more already produced episodes in the
> >can.) Any confirmation of this out there? The article was brief and said ABC
> >announced it yesterday (2/15.)


I got the same message in a paper in London, Ont. on Saturday.  After
1/16 the announcer on Global TV (the network that carries TP in Canada
said "TP returns in 2 weeks".   Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Dave
-- Dave Brodbeck - U of T Psych The chickadees are not what they seem davidb@psych.toronto.edu

     Writing MIGHT help, it has in the past with CAGNEY AND LACEY, DESIGNING WO
MEN, etc. recently and even as far back as I REMEMBER MAMA and THE LAW AND MR.
JONES... But... all these were eventually cancelled (save DESIGNING WOMEN). Whe
n a tv show goes on HIATUS especially a very low-rated show like TP , its chanc
es are practically non-existent. Also, TP's rating are dwindling, it's not a bu
ilding show and its cache has past. I believe we can probably say : TWIN PEAKS
R.I.P.

Is there any chance that local stations might be able
to broadcast TP even if ABC doesn't?  For example, I imagine that
in Boston, TP might have somewhat higher ratings than it does else-
where.   Might our local affiliate be willing to broadcast the remaining 
episodes?
Also, wasn't it sleazy of ABC to release the "hiatus" info
on a Friday, since less of a fuss would be made on a Saturday? (At
least that's why I think they did it).

Sini Gandhi
giron@husc9.harvard.edu

     Just in case these haven't been mentioned before (and even if they have,
what else are you going to talk about, the promos for next week):

     Hank had a 5-second shot in 48 HRS. as (snicker) a cop;
and
     Senor Droolcup (aka TMDRSWITW) was the undertaker in True Grit.


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I called Global Television in Toronto.  They get the episodes from ABC,
not directly from Lynch/Frost.  This is probably bad news.

They did give two numbers to call, on in L.A. and one in N.Y.

(213) 557-7777(West Coast)
(212) 887-3900(East Cost)

I suspect telephone calls *and* letters are they way to go.


-- Bernie Roehl, University of Waterloo Electrical Engineering Dept Mail: broehl@sunee.waterloo.edu OR broehl@sunee.UWaterloo.ca BangPath: {allegra,decvax,utzoo,clyde}!watmath!sunee!broehl Voice: (519) 885-1211 x 2607 [work]

In article <13730@vpk2.UUCP> sturner@attcan.UUCP (Samantha Turner) writes:
>> >> The guy playing Wyndy is ok, but what if...they could get Dennis Hopper to 
>> >> reprise his role in "Blue Velvet"?  ( Does anybody know what that stuff in
>> >> his inhaler was?  I figured it must be either amyll nitrate or nitrous oxide.
>> >> Where can I get some? )
> >
> >        Nitrous oxide makes your voice really deep, so it couldn't have been         that.  You can get NO2 at any department store.  I don't know what
> >        section its in, but its used for whipped cream dispensers.
> >
> >
>> >> jimbo
> >
> >
> >sam

Nitrous oxide is N2O, not NO2, which is an acid anhydride and will form
nitrous acid when it contacts water, thus causing a person inhaling it to
drown in their own fluids.  The prognosis for nitrous oxide is not much
better, since outside the clinical setting it is used without oxygen and
has caused death by asphyxiation in numerous cases.  Also, it is really
cold when is changes from liquid to gas phase, and numerous people have
either died or have suffer serious injuries by freezing the tissue in
their trachea or lungs.  As Hunter S. Thompson said, "there is no room in
the drug culture for amateurs."  If you are going to abuse drugs, be sure
to do it in an informed way so you will live to make it to a treatment
center.

N2O has a molecular weight of 44, much denser than the approximate 29
molecular weight of room air, hence causing a voice to go deeper the way
helium makes it go higher.  

Prolonged use of N2O in post-op cardiac patients as an analgesic for 24
hrs was found to significantly depress the immune system by interfering
with protein synthesis.

As for what Dennis Hopper used, many of us are without a clue, but God was
it frightening.  PS, if it were N2O, the way he used it would have killed
him since he took it straight without oxygen.

In article <1991Feb14.213317.29826@midway.uchicago.edu> lecl@quads.uchicago.edu (elizabeth e. leclair) writes:
> >In article <083XSAG@cs.swarthmore.edu> pouncy@campus.swarthmore.edu writes:
>> >>Did anyone see Bergman's Seventh Seal?  Is this the one where
>> >>the protagonist plays chess with death?  Since death has never
>> >>lost (we all die), Bergman's set up is a bit like Coop vs. WE
>> >>(`I've never beaten WE').   
>> >>
>> >>What would that movie's ending predict for Coop's game in 
>> >>TP?
> >
> >   Wow, it's been a long time since I saw this movie-- afterwards
> > I believe I was in a suicidal depression for three days, so please
> > no flames if my memories are blurred.
> >   The protagonist knight plays Death (i.e. the Black Death) in 
> > a chess match that lasts throughout the film.  The exact sequence
> > of moves is not very clear, as I recall.  In the end all of the 
> > characters are collected in a castle and the final scene is of death
> > leading the entire group in a swaying, dancing line, backlit over
> > a hill.  My movie friends give this two interpretations-- death 
> > conquers all and all are defeated, or in dying death is transcended
> > and all escape (or some similar metaphysical mumbling).
> >

I myself was too confused by the movie to be depressed. I saw it years
ago in my first years of university when I was not 
accustomed to thinking in terms of religious imagery (not like nowadays,
when that is practically all I care about in a movie) and so I had quite
a problem understanding it. But I think that the hero did succeed in
sheltering a family of good and innocent people (a holy family of man,
woman and child) by stalling off death until the family escaped.
 
Perhaps Coop will stall off death in order to save innocents.
Hopefully he won't sacrifice himself in order to save Lucy, Dick and baby.
 
a.h.

  Well, if Josie's soul is stuck in a drawer knob, then there has to
be something living in the Police Station's sprinkler system!
(Could it be BOB?  Leland?  UFOs?)

--
Joseph Maruschek
aa344@yfn.ysu.edu
sr137021@ysub.ysu.edu

The main effect this last episode had on me was to whet my
appetite for more.  Hopefully, Ontario's Global network will not
waste the 6 episodes that have already been filmed and will show
them, starting March 2.
 
I want to know what happened to Josie. I want to see more of Windom 
Earle. I want to meet Norma's sister, the nun from another place and
time. I want to find out what the owls are. I want to catch Bob or at 
least find out where he comes from.   
 
Go Go Global!

My quess is that Josie's was given poison
in the wine that Andrew gave her.  Any other
theories?

The following might be made clear to ABC when writing...

1) Regardless of ratings, you have shown lack of commitment to your viewers by denying the opportunity for resolution of plot lines.

2) To prevent future disappointment, we will avoid ABC programming in the future.  Of course, if you have the integrity to allow the series to finish (assuming it _must_ go), we will feel comfortable watching your programming.

3) We will rent movies on Saturday nights (i.e., we won't watch TP's replacement).

4) If future episodes are released on tape and ABC has any financial interest, we will watch them in groups as large as possible in order to minimize ABC's profit.

- Alan
--
asnyder@ernie.artorg.hmc.psu.edu

In article <4eBgX1w163w@zitt> joe@zitt (Joe Zitt) writes:
> >
> >Apparrotly, the weasely Horne brothers, having blown the mill deal, are
> >pining for the fjords.
> >
> >(*ducking*)

"And here's a picture of the Spanish Inquisition hiding behind the Great
Northern."

"Really?  I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition."

<cut to rabid ABC management entities bursting through door>

"NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!"

--
~  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp     | "Glittering prizes and
Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises
37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
Montgomery, PA 17752  | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!"  (Rush)

In article <27BE3569.27515@ics.uci.edu> bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
> >o The final scenes.  Josie dying mysteriously (heart attack?),
> >  BOB's return.  The LMFAP.  Josie in the nightstand knob.  Sort of
> >  reminds me of the Log Lady and her log.  Did anyone else get the
> >  impression that this whole sequence was added after hearing the
> >  suspension/cancellation news?

Could be.  When the soap opera "The Edge Of Night" ended a few (?) years
ago, the final few minutes were pretty odd.  As I remember, someone noticed
a criminal that everyone had thought left town walking down a street called
Wonderland Lane.  When she went to the police, everyone looked at her like
she was crazy, because there was NO Wonderland Lane in town!  So she led
the police back to the scene, only to find that the whole street had
vanished.  Sitting there on the sidewalk was a little white rabbit...  Now
you KNOW that they wouldn't have put an impossible scene like that in if it
hadn't been the very end of the series.

Of course, in Twin Peaks, impossible things happen all the time.  Actually
I think that BOB was planned all along (why else would Josie shoot
Cooper?), but I have no idea why the LMFAP was there.  Why would he show up
immediately after BOB?Why didn't he even say anything?  And the shot of
Josie's face in the knob was pretty strange even for Twin Peaks.

I'm really upset that we won't find out what the White Lodge scenario was
all about.  It would be nice to have some confirmation or denial of the ET
hypothesis.  Maybe the show was pulled because it was getting too close to
the truth?

(That was a joke.  Taking it seriously would be hazardous to your health.)

--
~  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp     | "Glittering prizes and
Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises
37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
Montgomery, PA 17752  | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!"  (Rush)

In article <91048.012458SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> SML108@psuvm.psu.edu (Scott the Great) writes:

[previous displays of ritual idiotting deleted]

> >  I ought to add that both Max Headroom and The Greatest American Hero
> >had unaired episodes when they were canned, and both returned briefly when
> >ABC was desperate.  Oddly enough, both were put against Magnum PI when
> >they did, which was another show killer like Dallas.

Many times I've thought that if the networks WOULDN'T COMPETE, they'd ALL
have greater success.  I really ought to sue them for causing excessive
wear on my VCR heads, which are getting pretty crappy right now.

> >I think ABC has some very creative people on its programming staff, but
> >whoever or whatever is in charge of scheduling is an UTTER MORON...

I second the motion...

Since I set my Organization: line a few weeks ago, I've found it becoming
more relevant by the hour.

> >Ah well, it was fun while it lasted...  I guess there will be another really
> >neat show in about 3 years.  Until then, I'll have to settle for STTNG
> >and Gulf War updates...

Notice that ST:TNG is SYNDICATED!  How well do you think it would work on
ANY of the networks at their current intelligence level?

--
~  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp     | "Glittering prizes and
Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises
37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
Montgomery, PA 17752  | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!"  (Rush)

In article <1991Feb17.172942.13319@watserv1.waterloo.edu> broehl@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Bernie Roehl) writes:
> >
> >I wonder if Truman will start carrying around a nighttable knob?  He could
> >double-date with the Log Lady!

Dana Barrett/ZUUL: "I want you inside me!"
Dr. Venkman:  "Whoa!  Sounds like you've already got at least two people in
      there!"

> >Seriously, I suspect that what happened to Josie is what happened to Margaret's
> >late husband.In each case their spirit fled their body to avoid imminent death
> >and took up residence in the nearest wooden object.  (Actually, "fled" may not
> >be correct -- their spirits were apparently shifted to those objects by some
> >outside force).


--
~  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp     | "Glittering prizes and
Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises
37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
Montgomery, PA 17752  | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!"  (Rush)

From article <1991Feb18.172323.23392@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, by alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins):

> In article <1991Feb14.213317.29826@midway.uchicago.edu> lecl@quads.uchicago.edu (elizabeth e. leclair) writes:
>>In article <083XSAG@cs.swarthmore.edu> pouncy@campus.swarthmore.edu writes:
>>>Did anyone see Bergman's Seventh Seal? Is this the one where
>>>the protagonist plays chess with death? Since death has never
>>>lost (we all die), Bergman's set up is a bit like Coop vs. WE
>>>(`I've never beaten WE').
>>>
>>>What would that movie's ending predict for Coop's game in
>>>TP?
>>
>> Wow, it's been a long time since I saw this movie-- afterwards
>> I believe I was in a suicidal depression for three days, so please
>> no flames if my memories are blurred.
>> The protagonist knight plays Death (i.e. the Black Death) in
>> a chess match that lasts throughout the film. The exact sequence
>> of moves is not very clear, as I recall. In the end all of the
>> characters are collected in a castle and the final scene is of death
>> leading the entire group in a swaying, dancing line, backlit over
>> a hill. My movie friends give this two interpretations-- death
>> conquers all and all are defeated, or in dying death is transcended
>> and all escape (or some similar metaphysical mumbling).
>>
>
> I myself was too confused by the movie to be depressed. I saw it years
> ago in my first years of university when I was not
> accustomed to thinking in terms of religious imagery (not like nowadays,
> when that is practically all I care about in a movie) and so I had quite
> a problem understanding it. But I think that the hero did succeed in
> sheltering a family of good and innocent people (a holy family of man,
> woman and child) by stalling off death until the family escaped.
>
> Perhaps Coop will stall off death in order to save innocents.
> Hopefully he won't sacrifice himself in order to save Lucy, Dick and baby.
>
> a.h.

In Bergman's Seventh Seal the chess board was *always* set up wrong.
I have this thing about magazine ads and movies using chess boards
and not doing it correctly.
You'd think that if they were going to do it, they would do it right!
Bri

In article <60347@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> v053qgzj@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
...
> >I'm about to right my letter to ABC...  Have you yet? 
              ^^^^^

That's good, but I'd advise you to have someone
proofread it before you mail it!  :-)

-- Roger Fulton roger@wrq.com

In article <1991Feb17.230741.27525@math.lsa.umich.edu> ekushnir@math.lsa.umich.edu (Eugene Kushnirsky) writes:
> >
> > 2) Good-oldfashioned police brutality from Hawk--this was just offensive.

I disagree on that point.  Hank's comment was deeply offensive to Harry,
and Hawk knew it.  As Harry's long-time friend, a fellow Bookhouse Boy,
and a romantic to boot, Hawk was very offended as well.  Hence the reaction.

Rob Ziegler     General Purpose Grad Student         ziegler@stanford.edu
*                                                                       *
I speak for myself.  Stanford doesn't pay attention to what I say, anyway.

(morning)
1. Camera roams around owl knick-knacks, chess board, mask,
HST and AC as they listen to Windom Earl tape.  COOPER: "If Wyndom
wanted to kill me I'd be dead."  WE insists on Cooper's next move.
Harry asks Lucy to call paper (to place personal ad) and Pete.  LUCY:
"Paper and Pete.  Right, I'll do it in alphabetical order."  2. Pete
cooks breakfast for Catherine and Andrew.  Josie walks in, sees Andrew
and faints.  3. Hank (on crutches) and Hawk in Harry's office.  HST
accuses Hank of shooting Leo.  Hank says he was home with Norma then,
and offers to deal info on Packard's death for freedom.  No deal.
Hawk kicks Hank's crutch causing Hank to fall on his broken leg.  TP
-- home of civil liberties.  4. Albert says same gun shot Agent Cooper
and Asian Man.  5. Audrey working as concierge at GN.  Some hunk walks
in; he claims to have seen Audrey years ago playing Heidi.  Audrey has
mail -- a note containing a torn piece of paper with writing, and a
note inviting her to "save the one you love" by attending "a gathering
of angels" at the road house that night.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
6. Nadine confesses to Ed her love for Mike.  NADINE: "It's time to
call a spade a spade, Eddie: we're breaking up."  7. Cooper interviews
Josie at the Packard/Martell house.  Catherine listens in.  COOPER: "I
don't know what place Harry occupies in your heart, but I do know that
you own his."  Josie is unresponsive.  After AC leaves, Catherine
badgers Josie while oozing slime.  Catherine says Josie will have to
see Eckhardt alone that night.  JOSIE: "He'll kill me."  Cathering
casually exposes a gun in the book case which Josie grabs and fondles.
8. Bobby, Ben, Jerry, Audrey and the hunk (old friend of Ben's, John
Justice Wheeler aka Jack) plot business.  Ben reveals there is an
endangered species on the mill/Ghostwood property: the pine weasel.
JERRY: "They're incredible roasted."  Ben will use this fact to stop
development until he is in the driver's seat.  BEN: "And then, I'm
considering a run for the Senate."  9. WE exits diner, leaving a note
for Shelly.  Norma is on phone with her sister (Andie), a nun who is
coming to visit.  Shelly reads note, identical to Audrey's.  Ed comes
in and proposes to Norma.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
10. Leo and Windom.  I missed the point.  Leo whittles.  11. Norma
visits Hank in jail, asks for divorce.  Hank promises to reform and
asks for Leo alibi.  Norma refuses, although Hank swears he'll die if
he goes back to prison.  HANK: "You're his whore."  NORMA: "I'd rather
be his whore than your wife."  12. Sheriff's office -- Pete selects a
move that will give WE "sleepless nights" and not allow WE to capture
any pieces for 4-5 moves.  13. Albert says powder on Josie's glove
proves she shot Cooper.  ALBERT: "Bust this bitch."  Cooper gives
Truman time.  14. Andrew visits Josie in her room.  Says he loved her
though she didn't love him.  Says she should go to Eckhardt who can
get her out of the country.  15. James and Donna meet for a picnic in
the mountains.  James is going to continue traveling around.  Donna
will return to TP.  They will continue to love each other and meet
again some day.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(early evening) 16. HST appears at Packard/Martell place looking for
Josie.  Catherine says she is with Eckhardt at GN.  Harry rushes out.
17. Eckhardt in elevator at GN; Packard is there.  AP stops elevator
and talks to TE (who is surprised to see him.)  AP says he is alive
because Josie betrayed TE.  Something about Josie in love with HST.
ECKHARDT: "I've already taken care of him."  18. Ben, Audrey and Jack
at supper.  Jack is in business of saving troubled businesses with
environmental problems (I didn't quite catch it).  Ben is called away;
attraction/repulsion/defensiveness between Audrey and Jack ensues.
19. Shelly, Audrey and Donna meet at the road house.  They put three
pieces of paper together to get a poem that didn't mean much to me.
WE watches from the bar.  20. Cooper practices fly fishing in his
room.  I forget what happened -- he hears something?  Grabs his gun
and goes to investigate.  Hears a shot and opens Eckhardt's room.
Eckhardt stands up and dies.  Josie and Cooper point guns at each
other.  Josie confesses to shooting Cooper before.  Harry enters,
points gun at Josie and yells at her.  She points gun at self, then
faints.  Harry holds her and declares she is dead.  WHITE LIGHT WHITE
LIGHT WHITE LIGHT we are in the Cooper zone.  He looks at bed, where
Harry and Josie were, it's now empty.  Then a hand comes from behind
the bed, then another, then BOB pokes up his ugly head and laughs.
BOB: "What happened to Josie?"  Cooper looks again, BOB is gone but
the dwarf is dancing on the bed.  Cooper looks again and it is Harry
and Josie.  Then the camera moves to a bedstand, and zooms in on a
1-inch wide drawer knob until it almost fills the screen.  Josie's
face appears on the knob, sad.  Then weird face-trying-to-escape-from-
latex shots.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
MHO: If there had to be a last episode, this was a pretty good one.
It resolved more problems than it created, although we certainly
wouldn't _ever_ want everything resolved.

Favorite shots: (1) Albert and Cooper in foreground in hallway at
sheriff's office as Albert says "Bust this bitch", then a shift focus
as Harry walks out of conference room into the picture in the
background, Harry looking at them and looking pitiful.  (2) Packard
and Eckhardt, in the side-by-side facing-front elevator arrangement,
carrying on conversation.  (3) At the road house, a shot down the bar
with the angels in focus in the foreground, and the unmistakeable
roundness of WE's face out of focus in the background.

Poor Josie:  She is emotionally abused by Cooper, Catherine and Andrew,
no doubt mauled by Eckhardt, gun-threatened and yelled at by Cooper and
Harry, dies, laughed at by BOB, danced on by LMFAP, and then imprisoned
in wood/latex.  Must have been a Monday.

In article <1991Feb18.175627.25229@watserv1.waterloo.edu>,
alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes:
|> The main effect this last episode had on me was to whet my
|> appetite for more.  Hopefully, Ontario's Global network will not
|> waste the 6 episodes that have already been filmed and will show
|> them, starting March 2.
|>  
|> I want to know what happened to Josie. I want to see more of Windom 
|> Earle. I want to meet Norma's sister, the nun from another place and
|> time. I want to find out what the owls are. I want to catch Bob or at 
|> least find out where he comes from.   

Want all of the above? Then write a letter! I've copied the one I wrote
to Robert Iger at ABC below. The \'s and {} stuff are there because
I was using the LaTeX document preparation system, those of you who
have it on your system but haven't used it to write a letter can simply
copy the stuff between the ------ lines into a file called, say, letter.tex, 
insert your own address and text, and type "latex letter.tex" and whatever
commands your local system uses to convert the resulting file to postscript
form and print that sucker. In any case, write ABC and Lynch/Frost a letter
today (don't blame Lynch/Frost for the cancellation, just tell them how
much you liked the show and some postings to the net, if you like)
if you want to see TP return to television!

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\begin{letter}{Robert Iger\\
Entertainment President\\
ABC\\
2040 Avenue of the Stars\\
Century City, CA   90067}
\address{Ernst W. Mayer\\
2155 Cram Place, Apt. 7\\
Ann Arbor, MI  48105\\
Ph: (313) 763-3280 (office)\\
\ \ \ \ \ \  (313) 763-6819 (home)}
\signature{\parbox{10cm}{Ernst W. Mayer}}
\opening{Dear Mr. Iger,} 
I was surprised and disappointed by ABC's recent announcement to the effect 
that the show {\sl Twin Peaks} is being shelved until further notice. Having 
watched and thoroughly enjoyed {\sl Twin Peaks} since its initial broadcast 
last year, I have trouble understand the reasoning behind this decision. 
I know that the ratings for the show have slipped quite a bit since the 
Laura Palmer thread was (for the most part) resolved, but there are, in my 
opinion, a number of good reasons not to discontinue the show. Foremost among 
these is the fact that {\sl Twin Peaks'} regular audience, although it may be 
small, is extremely loyal and very actively involved in the plot, 
direction and casting of the show. Moreover, this audience is not just a bunch 
of dreamy abolecents who dress up as their favorite characters and dream of 
getting the actors' autographs at conventions and so forth. I belong to a 
computer network newsgroup (a sort of international electronic bulletin board) 
dedicated to {\sl Twin Peaks}, and the postings to this newsgroup indicate a 
very well-educated, interested audience for the show, many of whom you've no 
doubt heard from as I write this.

Many of these people have indicated that {\sl Twin Peaks} is about the only 
reason they have these days for watching network television, and I put myself 
in this category, too. For people such as us, ABC's decision only reinforces 
the general impression that the networks are committed to banal, trite, 
mindless programming, with audience share according to A. C. Nielsen \& Co. 
(and hence profitability) being the only barometer by which to measure a show.
This is short-sighted and a grave mistake. For one, the Nielsen ratings have 
no good way to measure audience loyalty. The type of people who watch 
{\sl Twin Peaks} may not be as numerous as the {\sl Doogie Howser} crowd, 
but they are generally better educated, and better informed
(read: well-heeled, if you like,) which should have some pull with advertisers.
Secondly, poor ratings in many cases are, in good part, a result of bad 
decisions by the networks regarding the broadcast time of shows. In my opinion 
(and this was voiced by several people I know and dozens in the above-mentioned
newsgroup,) moving {\sl Twin Peaks} to Saturday nights was a poor decision. 
Most of these people still watched the show, but often videotapedit while they 
were out (Saturday nights having mysteriously become a sort of social occasion
in our society in the past year) and watched it later. This also allowed them 
the luxury of fast-forwarding through the commercials, something that 
advertisers don't like to hear about. The general opinion is that 
{\sl Twin Peaks} would have maintained much better ratings had it been left on 
weekday evenings. Thirdly, a show like {\sl Twin Peaks} has influence beyond 
its audience share because it is one of the very few shows on network 
television which is truly original and willing to take some creative risks. 
The networks airing those shows have something to point to, a sort of
creative feather in their corporate cap if you will, upon which to base an 
argument that they are committed to quality programming. Finally, ABC and the 
other networks should be especially careful these days in their decisions about
which shows to cancel because they are no longer the only game in town. I'm 
sure I don't need to go into any detail with you about steadily shrinking
audience shares, jittery advertisers and the growing influence of cable 
television, except to say that the cancellation of shows such as 
{\sl Twin Peaks} is probably the main reason for the ``flight away from
the big three'' in the past decade. If people can't get it at your place, they 
don't have to do without anymore --- they'll simply go someplace else. 
If, in addition, they feel that their intelligence has been insulted, they 
won't be back.

I urge you to reconsider this decision, and to put {\sl Twin Peaks} back on 
the air soon. If copies of any or all of the postings to the above newsgroup 
({\sl alt.tv.twin-peaks}) will help convince you of the high level of interest 
that {\sl Twin Peaks} has generated, please let me know. I can arrange to have 
the information sent to you. 
\closing{Regards,}

\end{letter}
\end{document}
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*--Ernst W. Mayer - GSRA, Aerospace Engineering/Applied Mathematics-*
|                   The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.          |
|  Internet: ewm@caen.engin.umich.edu, ewm@math.lsa.umich.edu       |
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*----"Was nicht totet, hartet." - F. Nietzsche----------------------*

In article <5722@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) writes:
)Remember, WE is an Electronicist Extraordinaire
)(as is shown with the "bug-zapper/flea collar".
)-Matt Brockman

That's a standard (if last resort) tool for training animals.  Anyone
can buy them.  At most he jumped the voltage a bit.

--
Vnend, Lottery winner #316                 Ignorance is the mother of adventure.  
vnend@princeton.edu, vnend@pucc.bitnet, or {backbone}!princeton!nudity!vnend        
        Anonymous posting service (NO FLAMES!):vnend@ms.uky.edu                          
"ONE SIZE FITS MOST -- MADE IN U.S.A."

I think my cat stood on the cable box while it was supposed to be
recording what may be the last episode at least for awhile, and I
am going through panic withdrawal. I am dying for a copy of 2/16, 
in short. I'll gladly pay whatever cost is involved, or, if you
live in the New York area I will buy or make you a dinner or drink
or whatever,name your price! P.S. I also missed the very first one
of the season, last fall, in case the same good Samaritan has both.
I'm on PeaceNet, can't figure out what network all you people with
the long addresses are on. PeaceNet address is pparmalee; home address
is Patty Lee Parmalee, 211 West 102 Street New York NY 10025, apt. 5B. Thanks
very very very much.

In article <1991Feb15.201324.11285@parc.xerox.com> mccall@parc.xerox.com (Kim McCall) writes:
)I haven't got time just now to wade through all 200 odd (sic) remaining
)messages to see whether someone else has reported this (saw fine bogosity
)in. re. Hungarian), but the "exotic" foreign dialogue was in Afrikaans.  
 
)First the transcription/translation, then commentary of various ilks:
 
)The (less than illuminating) dialog [TE==Ek, W==his companion]:
 
)TE: Sy het verspilbar geword.
)    [She has become expendable.]
)     (actually, the crucial word here is not absolutely clear to me,
)      but I think that's what it means.)

Close, but no cigar.  The line was "She's become predictable."
 
)W: Ek het jou gewaarsky om haar nie te vertrou nie.
)   [I warned you not to trust her.]

Bingo.
 
(Sorry about not posting it earlier, but my friend was out sick all
last week.  She sent me one note last monday before she got bad, telling
me what the language was.  I didn't find out what the translation was 
until Sat. afternoon.)
--
Vnend, Lottery winner #316                 Ignorance is the mother of adventure.  
vnend@princeton.edu, vnend@pucc.bitnet, or {backbone}!princeton!nudity!vnend        
        Anonymous posting service (NO FLAMES!):vnend@ms.uky.edu                          
"ONE SIZE FITS MOST -- MADE IN U.S.A."

In article <1991Feb17.043440.19372@midway.uchicago.edu> lecl@quads.uchicago.edu (elizabeth e. leclair) writes:
)In article <6072@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) writes:
)I have to admit the last scene boggled my mind.  If this is truly
) the last episode of Twin Peaks ever to air, I think that this scene does
) in some way represent the best and most daring of the approach for which 
)  TP is now justly famous (if not appreciated).  The White Light thing
) happened again, our Special Gifted Agent sees the destruction of Josie
) and the ever-corrupting influence of BOB, Truman being helpless to stop
) any of it.  The inexplicable dancing dwarf returns-- a code for the
) final inexplicability of Twin Peaks.  Josie in the drawer knob?  Can't
) figure it out, but it sure was creepy, and typical of the original 
) visuals of the series.
 
Two thoughts.  We now have the link between the WKLP/WE plotline
and the Packard/Ekhardt plot that I was wondering about a couple of
weeks ago.  

The second is a bit more complex.  We've seen, a few times, that
the host of the 'inhabiting spirit' needs to be near for the spirit
to manifest in a vision (as opposed to a dream).  (Perhaps this is too limited.
It certainly seems to be true for the Sr. Droolcup/GIANT, so I'm going
to over generalize and hypothisize that it is true for all of them.)  If
this is so, who are the current hosts for BOB and the Man From Another Place?
There were only two people in the room...

Before BOB showed up, I commented to my friends that I bet that
Albert's autopsy of Josie showed slow poisoning, which I blamed on Cathrine.
(I admit the delicate timing was a bit much.)  After BOB showed up, one
of my friends suggested perhaps I wasn't wrong, and the poison was 'blue
goo.'  If that is it, then I think that Andrew becomes a stonger syspect
for a couple of things.

So, how much of what Andrew said in the elevator was a lie?  Certainly
the bit about Josie warning him off sounded like one.

--


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In article <1991Feb16.075850.3133@portia.Stanford.EDU> olivia@portia.Stanford.EDU (Olivia Williamson) writes:

> >Ok, who do we write/call to get it back?  
> >Does anybody have ABC's address?  Who's in charge of scheduling?

>> >>sniff<
> >bring back Twin Peaks!

> >- Olivia

I've got a better idea.  Since ABC is so damned concerned with turning a
profit, and since (as someone else has already mentioned), TP is basically
for people with IQ's higher than their shoe size, maybe we should press the
producers to terminate their contract with ABC altogether, and get it on a
network that has had a history of "intellectual" programming, namely, PBS.
If they can have Dr. Who for god-knows-how-long, why can't TP prosper there,
too? 


Just a thought....(mostly because if somebody *does* make a decent cable
channel, I'm SOL, since we don't get cable....)


david.

ma2cs240@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Gian Di Loreto) writes:

> >Does anyone else suscribe to the Twin Peaks Gazette?  I just got my first 
> >issue  last week.  The place to write is

> >Twin Peaks Gazette, P.O. box 1804
> >Pacific Palisades, CA 90272

You can also call 1-800-626-TWIN to subscribe.

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Once again posting for another, far more drama-blooded animal....

                                                        FooDog


   Well, well, well. Just when you thought that it was safe not to be well
read again. It's time for your favorite fish to come back into posting. As
a reply to  the only reply that gave  any feed back to me.... yes, "When
We the Dead Awake(n)" is a fine example of what I was talking about. For
the rest of you, "A Doll House" should be somewhere in your musty book-
shelfs, take it down and check it out.
   Nora, the suzy homemaker from hell, forged her father's signature to
save her husband, the ever incompetent Torvald. But that's not the
interesting part. What about her dancing to save her life? She danced to
keep the life she had intact, sound like our friend Leland? What about
the letter left by Krogstad? Ibsen gets better in other works, but this
is a non-threatening start for the rest of you.
   Back to the "Dead" afficionado....What about "Master Builder"?



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Hi, Everybody!  I just saw the first episode of Twin Peaks on telly
last night, and found it almost totally engrossing.  I was just wondering
if anyone could send me any information on the first series (summaries,
early comments about peoples reaction etc.)

Are you Americans really that emotional ?  I've never seen so much screaming
and sobbing (;-)

Bye now,
-peter.
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Fletcher, PhD student. Internet : peterf@csis.dit.csiro.au Phone : +61-6-2750914

In article <1991Feb17.230741.27525@math.lsa.umich.edu> ekushnir@math.lsa.umich.edu (Eugene Kushnirsky) writes:
> >
> >I thought this was an extremely uneven episode. The lowlights:
> >
> > 1) Some painfully wooden acting, especially from James Marshall and Peggy
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    You mean Josie in the drawer knob??? (hee, hee....)

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  Elizabeth E. LeClair  <lecl@midway.uchicago.edu>
  International House       "Sex is two wavy lines and the United States 
  University of Chicago      of America is a trapezoid."  -L.M.

Ah well, they have six more episodes to wrap things up.  I have
an idea which allows them to get some revenge.  Introduce a sub-plot
where "Invitation to Love" is cancelled and have Lucy lead a movement
to get it back on the air.  After all, it could even be a locally produced
syndicated show.  Then you could have even more parallel characters
representing BOB Iger and crew.  Oh well, it'd be a fitting end at
least...

Scott

I've written my letter to BOB Iger, and I am confident that Twin Peaks 
will be placed back on the air, one way or the other.

But, come on! What the hell did the ABSOLUTE GENIUSES (not!) at ABC
expect when they took Twin Peaks from it's fairly-high rated Tuesday time 
slot and put it in at the 10:00 Pm saturday night graveyard slot? If they 
replaced it in a weeknight slot, the ratings would not be so bad - they 
might not be as good as Cosby (yecch) , but they would NOt be at 86th 
place. By the same token, if the Nielsen system took into account VCR 
recordings, the ratings would not be as bad. 

And on another topic:
Certain characters and situations have not been consistent since first 
season. For instance, are just supposed to think that Bobby, Audrey, 
Shelly, James, etc. have just been skipping school for the past week or 
so? Last I heard, they were high school seniors. Second, what happened to 
Ben, Jerry, and Bobby being the complete a-holes they were first season? 
I mean, they were the absolute slime on TP for the first six or seven 
episodes - besides Leo, of course. Bobby was a murderer wannabe/drug 
dealer etc., Ben and Jerry were organized criminals, pimps, etc. And now 
they might as well be Ward Cleavers, all of 'em.

**************************************************************************
"Mr. BOB, you've killed Theresa Banks,   *                Richard Barrett
 Laura Palmer, Jacques Renault, and      *             18004 146th Ave NE
 Maddy Ferguson. What are you going to   *          Woodinville, WA 98072
 do next?"                               *                (206)487-1312
"I'm going to Disneyland!"               *hikaru%halcyon.uucp@seattleu.edu
**************************************************************************

In article <1991Feb19.191246.21221@b11.ingr.com> sharon@marcom1.ingr.com (new user) writes:
> >I heard on NPR this morning that last Saturday's episode of TWIN PEAKS
> >was the last episode!!! Has anyone else heard this viscious rumor? How
> >can then end it NOW?

It must be a viscous rumor -- it flows so slowly.

What the hell is actually going on.  I phoned my local ABC affliate
to voice my concern about TP being placed on hiatus. I was told
that it was not ABC who did this but the producers.  Now is
this some BS that ABC is saying to clear itself from all us
irrate Peak Freaks or is this in fact true.  Now if it is true
than to whom would it be better to write to: ABC or the producers???


================================================================================
Sally A. Wilson             People come and people go naturally,
sally@mica.berkeley.edu     let's be natural.  (The Rutles)
===============================================================================

        Well, I kinda wanted to say something, but somehow all the thrill has
gone out of discussing plots lately...sigh...
        Anyway, I was puzzled by the appearance of the LMFAP at the end of the
last(!) show.  As I recall, Cooper basically told us that he represented
Leland.  Witness this conversation from Leland's final episode (dialog
approximate but very close!):
        Cooper: What did the little man do in my dream?
        Truman: uh...he danced?
        Cooper: Exactly.  After LAura's death, Leland danced compulsively.

        Was the LMFAP stuck in just to be supernatural and spooky &c, or is
Leland coming back, too?

        Add my vote to the David-Warner-was-wasted-miserably crowd.
                                        Jenni

 --------------------------I wrote my letter!------------------------------

In article <27C0E641.20758@ics.uci.edu> dcoteles@ics.uci.edu (David Domenick Cotelessa) writes:
> >O.K. Can anybody post up an address for us "unknowledgeable" people what the
> >ABC address is?

Unless UC Irvine has a two day expire, there should be five or six
examples of the address sitting right in the news spool directory.  Ask
your news administrator to teach you how to search for text in articles
if you don't already know how.

Anyway, here's two from Michael Lee's article:

Well, here are some addresses

--

"Twin Peaks"
Lynch-Frost productions
World Vision
7700 Balboa Blvd
Van Nuys, CA 91406

--

ABC
Robert Iger - Entertainment President
2040 Avenue of the Stars
Century City, CA 90067

In article <59940023@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> richardh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Hancock) writes:
> >I'd be interested to compare UK and US viewing figures for Twin Peaks.
> >
> >The January 22nd episode (TP 2003, repeated on January 26th) attracted an
> >audience of 3.91m. [...]
> >
> >Other US imports attracted the following audiences :-
> >
> >Star Trek: The Next Generation          4.11m
> >Golden Girls                            4.19m
> >The Waltons                             3.95m

WHAT?!?  TP was edged out by,..THE WALTONS?

Oh, "repeated on January 26th".  I see, this is another joke, yes?

Oh.  HA-HA!  Very good, that.

(Hey! Think of the cross-over possibilities of an Albert - Johnboy clash!)

                                           -- Bill K.

Bill Kaufman               | "Grandad would start breaking into liquor stores
{...}!{ames,ucbvax}!       |  and staying out late.  Hope we have it soon!"
   hplabs!oracle!wkaufman  |            -- David Lynch

An occasional _Peaks_ watcher is looking for help with a little trivia.
What is the name of the chap who plays "BOB"?  (And I don't mean Ray
Wise/Leland.)

Please respond by email to zecca@tramp.colorado.edu.  Thanks in advance.
-- -- Admiral Avenger, zecca@tramp.colorado.edu / zecca%tramp@vaxf.colorado.edu Home of Junk Mail and Star Trek: The Crouton Generation "Now what was that about my thighs?" -- Admiral Picard to Captain Kabeta, ST:TCG3 "Remember Romulus"

All I have to add (not being a regular poster to this group) is I also want 
ABC's address....I'm actually testing this news server stuff out so I thank
you all for bearing with me.

In article <6084@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> f3w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Gellis) writes:
> >By the way, when writing to ABC, it may be helpful to avoid cursing
> >them out, that only makes you sound like a fanatic.  
                                            ^^^^^^^
We've an entire newsgroup dedicated to a single show- we've confused
hundreds of people who thought there was a 1/26 show (wasn't there? ';-))
we've analyzed the phases of the moon- guess what,

WE ALREADY ARE FANATICS!!!!!!!

Nonetheless- WRITE ABC- SAVE TWIN PEAKS!


rON. (blowfish@triton.unm.edu!ariel.unm.edu)
"It is only with the heart that one see rightly;
 what is essential is invisible to the eye."

In article <20331@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >I, for one, am *not* going to be writing ABC -- or anyone else -- about
> >saving TWIN PEAKS, as much as I enjoy the show. It had a good run, longer
> >than some other worthy shows, but I think it's unhealthy for any show to
> >go on at length. Plots get stale, characters get stale. Camelot must
> >eventually fall.
> >
> >I *would* like to see those last six episodes, but beyond that, let it rest.

Oh, heavens, that's unexpectedly pessimistic.

Granted, Lynch's original, quirky burst of visions in 1989 -- as
embodied in INDUSTRIAL SYMPHONY #1, WILD AT HEART and the first TWIN
PEAKS season -- has "been done" and shouldn't be needlessly rehashed.
It was a special moment in TV history and you can't really go back.

However, the show today is far from stale!  It has great promise.  You
really have to sit back, disentangle yourself from year-old concerns and
expectations, and look at what they've built.  

 * The ensemble has quietly turned into one of the best in television --
each character's personality is sharply etched.

 * It's a showcase for directors and actors.  Ever notice, when you go
to the theatre, how many credits from SPENSER and ST:TNG there are?
Those shows virtually specialize(d) in developing young talent.  TWIN
PEAKS stands to do the same.  We'll be reaping the benefits for years to
come.

 * Ironically, we're just starting to see Kyle MacLachlan stretch out.
There is so much we don't know about Cooper's motivation and inner self.
When the barriers start to crumble, we're going to have some classic TV!

----------

The truth is, folks, that if they take it off, we're NOT going to see
anything half as good in its place.  There is no "conservation of
quality" rule in TV.  The principals will wander off to work in other
media or go back to retirement, and we can settle back to another season
of MACGYVER.  Is that really something to wish for?

NO WAY!

So I must gently disagree with Jerry.  We should try to convince ABC to
keep TWIN PEAKS on its schedule.  Even if you are personally a little
less interested than you used to be, share the benefits of your
eloquence with the rest of us!  Let them cancel WHO'S THE BOSS? if they
have to cancel something. :-)

O.K. Can anybody post up an address for us "unknowledgeable" people what the
ABC address is?

-Dave

In article <1991Feb18.162040.18335@rice.edu>, bdm@fabry.rice.edu (Brian D. Moore) writes...

} Just in case these haven't been mentioned before (and even if they have,
} what else are you going to talk about, the promos for next week):

}     Hank had a 5-second shot in 48 HRS. as (snicker) a cop;

You want to talk *really* obscure, he was also in a recent episode of (get
this) DIVORCE COURT. And to top it off, he *won*.

And whatsherface who played Evelyn Marsh was in another episode.

(Don't ask me why I watch DIVORCE COURT. It's so delightfully tawdry that
it can be fun to watch in small does. It's certainly funnier than most
sitcoms.)

-- "Have you ever made love to a revolutionary?" "No, but I once necked with a Stevenson Democrat." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM