Season 1, Episode 04: The One-Armed Man — May 03–09, 1990

In article <QaD_Wau00jukMkQm47@cs.cmu.edu>, Jon.Webb@CS.CMU.EDU writes...

} My reasoning was as follows: digging up the locket is a key event,
} because we know whoever did it killed Laura Palmer, because of Sarah
} Palmer's psychic vision in the pilot.  It is, in fact, the only point
} where we know we've seen the killer.

Am I missing something here?

How exactly do "we" know that the person who dug up the locket is
Laura's killer? Sarah Palmer had two psychic visions (assuming that
the juxtaposition of her waking up screaming and the mystery person
digging up the locket are meant to indicate that she's having a vision
of this happening, which while it may seem obvious to some is *still*
an assumption). One was of the Mystery Person digging up the locket.
Later, she had the vision of Killer Bob squatting by a bed. Why are
you assuming that this means that said Mystery Person is the killer?

} Now, who knew where the locket was?  Only James Hurley and Donna
} Hayward. [...] Unless some unknown person was standing there and
} watching them as they buried it -- but in that case we can't
} conclude anything about the killer.

Precisely.

} So assume we can use the locket burial as a clue. We know James didn't
} dig it up, since he was in jail.  He also didn't tell anyone where it
} was, since he was being barked at by Bobby and Mike. But Donna was
} picked up by her father, and he suddenly seemed real friendly.

Presumably because he's a friendly sort of guy.

} That was odd, as was his other behavior, and Lynch cut off the dialogue
} before they'd finished their ride.

Why do you say it was odd? We don't know enough about his character to
say whether this behaviour is unusual for him or not.

} Dr. Hayward could easily have said, what about that locket? He could've
} convinced her that the police would find it, and they should go dig it
} up. (Or, he could've gotten her to describe the location, and called
} the killer to go dig it up, using his metal detector or excellent
} nighttime tracking skills.)

Or, he could *not* have. It's oone thing to speculate on things that
we haven't seen based on scenes that have been presented to us. You're
making suppositions out of the whole cloth here, and they have no basis
in reality as we know it.

} Actually, on reflection, I don't think it was Hayward that actually dug
} up the locket -- I recall him being shown at home with his wife shortly
} before Sarah's vision.

Assuming, of course, that Sarah's vision occurred at the same time as
the locket was actually dug up. Her vision could have been prescient,
and the actual digging up of the locket could've happened hours later.

} But he must have a strong connection to the killer.

"Must"?  Why?

} As must Dr. Jacoby, since he received the locket from whoever dug
} it up.

Aren't you totally missing the obvious here?  Like, that Jacoby might
have been the one who dug it up?

} I also believe that Laura Palmer was being watched by Truman and Pete
} Martell.

Why? What's Pete Martell got to do with it?

} Either she was working with the Bookhouse Boys, hence the sign in
} Cooper's dream [...]

The sign?  You mean her tapping her nose?  That has nothing to do with
the BB's. They brushed their temples.

} or they were keeping track of her involvement in drugs.

On the other hand, recall that in the pilot, when we first see James
talk to Big Ed, he said about Laura, "She's the one."  She's the one
what?  That James has been secretly involved with (perhaps he told Big
Ed he was seeeing someone, but not who it was)?  Or that she was the
end user of the drug case that they were trying to bust? If the latter,
James may have come to this conclusion without really knowing for sure
that she was involved in the drug trafficking.

} (This explains why Big Ed asked Truman to not tell Cooper everything).

More likely, he was leery of telling an outsider about their little
secret society that is of dubious legality.

} That is why Pete said ``She's dead'' and Truman knew who he meant right
} away.

Harry knew who Pete meant?  Then why was he surprised when they covered
her face and saw that it was Laura?  He may have been feigning surprise,
but there's no reason to conclude that. It's also not obvious that Pete
knew who the corpse was, given that it was wrapped in transluscent plastic
and lying face down, and he only went close enough to determine that it
was a corpse.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

I reviewed the pilot last night.  First, the timing is wrong for someone
who happened to be watching Donna and James to be the one who dug up the
locket.  The sequence of events is: Donna and James drive away, they get
arrested, they go to jail, Doc takes Donna in the car, they go to the
roadhouse and who knows where else, Cooper says good night to Truman,
Truman and Josie get together, Catherine gets a call from Ben, Sarah has
her vision and the locket is dug up.  (Note: I was wrong earlier when I
said Doc Hayward is shown in this sequence: the scene I was thinking of
happens earlier.)

Far too much time elapses between the time where James and Donna drive
away and the locket is dug up.  If the digger was watching them, he
would simply walk over and pick it up a few minutes after they left.

The digger is also not Doc Hayward, because he was wearing a gray
overcoat at the police station, and the digger has on a denim jacket and
leather work gloves.

He's also not the one-armed man, since he has a shielded flashlight in
one hand and picks up the locket with the other.  And he can't be any of
the people I mentioned in the first paragraph, since they're doing
something else.  The digger is also a man, from the clothing and body
shape.

Who's left: Pete Martell, Leland Palmer, Leo Johnson, Andy, Hawk, Ed
Hurley, Dr. Jacoby, Major Briggs (from the main male characters so far).

I think the most likely choices among these are Pete Martell, Leo
Johnson, or Ed Hurley.

I'm really at a loss to explain the digging.  The only remaining
possibilitiy, which I consider somewhat unlikely, is that Doc Hayward
got his daughter to tell him where the locket is, and then called the
digger and told him.  (I think this is unlikely because the digger walks
directly to the place that they buried the locket, and picks it up.  He
doesn't search around.)

Note that I say digger, not killer -- they aren't necessarily the same
person.  But I believe they are, from the direction of Sarah's vision.

-- J

The way I see it, David Lynch simply had the script written
phoenetically (sp?) backwards, and had the entire scene read that way. 
Then he plays the original backwards, and bingo, they're talking
forwards...the big problem being that when you read you inject certain
inflections that when run the wrong-way-round make it terribly tough to
figure out what the heck they're saying...hence teh subtitles.  (You can
tell the tape is run backwards if you look at Laura-look-alike's
hair...she "tosses" it backwards).

In article <RCLAYTON.90Apr29225531@quaver.urbana.mcd.mot.com>, rclayton@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Randy Clayton) writes...

} While watching the tape, I noticed that in the video of Laura, and in
} James' flashback of her, that Laura's hair is blond. However, the body
} on the beach and on the coroner's table has brown hair (...just like
} Laura's cousin). I was wondering why nobody has brought this up during
} the "Laura and her cousin changed place" speculations.

Because the Laura corpse has at worst *light* brown hair. Madeleine has
*dark* brown hair.

} Also, did anybody else notice that "Blackie" (the "hostess" at One Eyed
} Jack's that Jerry recites poetry to) showed up at Laura's funeral?

She was?  I don't think so. If you're thinking of the woman standing
next to Leland with the dark glasses on, that was Madeleine. Besides,
it was Ben, not Jerry, who was reciting Shakespeare.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

OK, in the process of taking notes to construct a timeline of events, I
reviewed the episodes up through last week's (4/26). Since I've just
managed to type in the timeline, I thought I'd wait until tonight's
episode runs and add that to the file and post the timeline this weekend.

In the meantime, here are assorted observations that I made, taking into
account some of the points and questions that have been made here on the
net. Some of these points I've made in earlier articles, some of them are
confirmations of things that other people have noted. 

Episode #0 (4/8)

-- (James to Big Ed about Laura) "She was the one."  The one James was
   seeing in secret or the one Renault was selling the drugs to?

-- "Diane" must be a real person (rather than just a name Cooper gives
   to his recorder). In his first entry, he says of the Lamplighter,
   "Diane, if you get up this way, that cherry pie is worth a stop."
   An odd thing to say if Diane wasn't a real person.

-- Cooper got to Twin Peaks awfully soon after Ronnette was found! He had
   to have driven up from Spokane -- it's the only place close enough and
   large enough to have an FBI office. Is there an FBI office in Spokane?
   Seattle I'd believe (we already know there's an OCB set-up there :-)).
   I suppose Cooper could've caught a hill-hopper from Seattle to Spokane
   (is there an airport there?) and driven up from there to Twin Peaks.

-- Someone noted some time back that Cooper didn't check both hands on
   Ronnette or Laura, but only the left hand. Someone else claimed that
   this wasn't odd, given that (we can assume) the "T" was found under
   a fingernail on Theresa Banks' left hand, and the "R" under a finger-
   nail on Laura's left hand. It actually *is* odd, since Cooper checked
   Ronnette before Laura and found nothing on the left hand. With only
   one previous instance to go by, Cooper couldn't just assume that the
   letter would always be in the left hand.

-- Cooper must be in *some* kind of real-time contact with Diane. His
   dictation after finding the letter under Laura's fingernail is "Diane,
   give this to Albert and his team. Don't go to Sam. Albert seems to have
   a little more on the ball." As Albert calls Cooper the next day, Diane
   must've gotten Cooper's message and contacted Albert as requested.

-- The One-Armed Man is definitely missing the left arm in all of his
   appearances. When Hawk first spots him [in Episode #1], it looks like
   he's missing the right arm, but that's because Hawk (and we) see him
   in a mirror.

-- "Kitty got a new collar."  Some people think this is significant, and
   might have something to do with Leo Johnson (whose truck is the "Big
   Pussycat"). I think this is a red herring, and refers to nothing more
   significant than perhaps her pet cat was given a new collar. That entry
   in the diary was written on 2/5 *of the previous year*, and thus is
   possibly unrelated to the events now in progress.

-- On the other hand...at the Town Meeting, Cooper starts off by saying,
   "One year ago, almost to the day... the body of a young girl named
   Theresa Banks was found..."  If "Kitty got a new collar" is a reference
   to Leo, it's possible that the year-old entry in Laura's diary might
   refer to the Banks murder, which may be another pointer toward Leo as
   the perp. On the other other hand, Cooper says "almost to the day",
   i.e. circa 2/24/88. Laura's diary entry was on 2/5/88. The 18-day
   difference seems a little imprecise for Cooper.

-- The guy who took Donna to the woods to see James after the Roadhouse
   fight was Joey Paulsen, later revealed to be one of the Bookhouse Boys
   (he and James were watching over Bernard Renault at the Bookhouse).

-- Some people were confused about who gave the necklace to whom. Donna
   said to James, "The necklace you gave Laura..." indicating that James
   gave the (whole) necklace to Laura, who then broke off the right half
   and gave that back to James.

-- Intriguing point: Though Janek & Maria Pulaski were given credits in
   the end titles cast list, we never see either of them in this episode
   except for a distant shot of Janek leaving the Mill. One might assume
   that they were left on the cutting-room floor.

-- Question for the episode: Why were Truman and Cooper on a stakeout at
   the Roadhouse? We know that Big Ed (and presumably Joey Paulsen) were
   staking out Jacques, but why were Truman and Cooper there? Did Truman
   perhaps just tell Cooper that he was working on another case (Jacques)
   and Cooper came along for the ride? They didn't really have any reason
   to believe (that I could see) that Donna, Bobby, or Mike would show
   up there.

Episode #1 (4/12)

-- Leo's truck is definitely the "Big Pussycat", not the "Pink Pussycat".

-- Leo called Mike's house "yesterday" (Friday) looking for the other half
   of the money. Bobby saw Leo "the other night", the night Laura died.
   Someone thought there might be a missing day here, but there is no
   inconsistency. Now, someone else brought up the fact that if Bobby saw
   Leo on Thursday night, that he should've known that Leo couldn't not
   have been in Butte as Shelly told him Friday morning, and thus Bobby
   shouldn't have been surprised to see Leo home then. This is true, but
   it could be that even though Bobby knew Leo was not in Butte, he still
   could've believed that Leo was on the road. Leo seems to have an idea
   that it's Bobby who's screwing around with Shelly, and might've told
   Bobby that he'd be on the road in order to throw Bobby off, and maybe
   catch him and Shelly in the act.

-- When Hawk releases James into Ed's custody, Hawk and Ed exchange the
   "Hi Sign" (the brush across the temple). James says to Ed, "Gonna need
   a hand from the Bookhouse Boys. Somebody's gotta watch my back [because
   of Mike & Bobby]." Ed replies, "Already got it covered."  First mention
   of the BB's.

-- One definite inconsistency crops up. At the Town Meeting the previous
   night, Truman tells Cooper that Andrew Packard died "last year". At
   Josie's on Saturday, he tells him that Packard died "a year and a half
   ago", which would've been the year *before* last.

-- Shelly went to work in the morning (after hiding Leo's blood-soaked
   shirt). She's still on duty in the early evening when Truman and Cooper
   talk to the Log Lady. Quite a long shift (but not as long as Lucy's
   on Friday -- Lucy was in just after dawn when Pete called to report
   finding Laura's body, and she was still there at midnight when Cooper
   and Truman sit down in front of the "policeman's dream"). I wish my
   underlings had such dedication. :-)

Episode #2 (4/19)

-- The deflated football definitely *landed* on Bobby's car as he and Mike
   reach it. It wasn't already sitting on the hood. Leo must've tossed it.

-- On Cooper's blackboard, the "R" and "T" appeared circled just after
   Cooper is shown circling the "J".

-- Audrey's comment about "He [Audrey's father] used to sing to her [Laura]"
   would seem to suggest that she saw (through one of her peepholes?) Laura
   and Ben together, possibly fornicating?

-- Here's the missing day. It's Sunday night at this point, and Catherine
   asks Pete, "What did that FBI man want up here today?" Pete's answer was,
   "...He talked to Josie mostly. I had a problem with a fish. Took a liking
   to my percolator."  Cooper (and Truman's) talk with Josie, and Pete's
   piscatorial problem was on Saturday, not earlier on Sunday.

Episode #3 (4/26)

-- Madeleine (played by the same actress who plays Laura) shows up right
   at the point when Leland is watching "Invitation to Love", in which one
   actress plays two lookalike roles. I'm not convinced this indicates
   anything significant, but it just another example of the "double" motif
   that runs through the show. Some people have suggested that Madeleine
   is really Laura in disguise and that it was really Madeleine that was
   killed. This is doubtful as they look different enough (Madeleine has
   dark hair and Laura light) that the corpse would've had to have been
   "doctored" to pass for Laura -- doctored well enough to fool *everyone*
   (including her regular physician) and pass a reasonably thorough autopsy.
   (If Albert was thorough enough to detect particles of pumice on the back
   of her neck, he surely would've been able to detect that the hair had
   been dyed.)

So, now we get to see what Episode #4 brings us...

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <108@shlump.dec.com>, boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes...

> >Episode #0 (4/8)
> > 
> >-- (James to Big Ed about Laura) "She was the one."  The one James was
> >   seeing in secret or the one Renault was selling the drugs to?

Back when I was in high school, this would have been interpreted as:  
    "She was my one and only true love, the woman I wanted to marry"
It could still mean that today.
-----
When Cooper and Truman are hearing Albert's report, I noticed that Cooper
looked a lot like Jimmy Dean, singer and pork sausage maker.  James Hurley
plays a James Dean character.  Aha -- James Dean, Jimmy Dean -- yet another
case of the "doubles"!     :-)
-----
Anybody want to bet the llama is named Dolly?

  John

In article <JYM.90May2171414@eris.berkeley.edu> jym@eris.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
> >    some *damn* good coffee for the show, too.  And where in hell
> >    does one get huckleberries?
> >    <_Jym_>

Northeast Washington appears to be the place for huckleberries.  Spokane
Airport has a shop selling Helen's Huckleberry Cordials (they're chocolate
bonbons with huckleberry filling).  And they are *damn* fine too.  Joe

About the tibetan connection:
I don't think Josie Packard's national origin has been mentioned.
Could she be from Tibet?

In response to a number of net queries:

From Newsweek 4/9/90 (from memory):

Twin Peaks was scored by Angelo Badalamenti, who also scored
BLUE VELVET.

While no soundtrack was mentioned, two recent Lynch-Badalamenti
collaborations were: "Industrial Symphony #1," performed at the
Brooklyn Academy of Music, and the Julee Cruise recording "Floating
into Night." The Cruise recording is released; I haven't heard if
"IS #1" was recorded, or whether the recording is publicly
available.

Julee Cruise was the singer at the Roadhouse in episode 0.

--
Jim Ingram uunet!h-three!jimi | jimi%h-t...@uunet.uu.net
h-three Systems Corporation P.O. Box 12557 RTP NC 27709 919 549 8334

In article <10498@yunexus.UUCP> logan@yunexus.UUCP (Beryl Logan) writes:
> >that he forgot who it was, almost as if it didn't matter.  Seems odd
> >that he forgot, first if he now knew the killer's identity, would he
> >be able to fall back to sleep so easily?  And, as others have said,
> >why *could* it wait?  (he wouldn't have forgotten something so
> >important if he stayed awake till morning).  He seemed more excited
> >about the code in the dream than the killer's identity.

IMHO, Cooper said it could wait until morning because he had already forgotten.
Why is it so hard to believe that he couldn't recall that part of the dream?
For those that have seen SPELLBOUND, Gregory Peck's character had a masked man
in his dream who's identity was very important.  Cooper should have known the
identity of the killer from the evidence he saw but couldn't figure it out
so his subconscious sends him this dream giving him further clues but still
holding back on the killer's identity.
Just because Laura (or her cousin) whispered the name to him doesn't mean
he ever knew it.


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|                              |                                          |
|                              | ...It's an awful strain being a crook.   |
|  Those who Race toward Death |      But it helps you to accept society  |
|  Those who wait              | and forgive your fellowman.  Once that's |
|  Those who worry             | done no person should be a crook unless  |
|  -Jim Morrison               | he really needs the money.               |
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.-.
|M|ost of this newsgroup is a waste of bandwidth, but amongst the
`-' selected articles that are to be sent to Frost & Lynch, the
    Odyssey quote surely deserves of place!
    <_Jym_>

In article <15443@bfmny0.UU.NET> tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) writes:
>> >>Diane, it's 7:31 AM.  I'm wearing new white boxer shorts; the brand is
> >Jockey.  The fit is good.  Make a note to check whether ducks on the
> >lake tend to pair up.
> >
> >( I think we need a Twin Peaks Parody Contest, don't you??)

Definitely.  I think the contest should run for a week, and
the winner receives

A gift certificate for a cup of their favorite coffee and two
donuts!

I'd enter for that price!

Terri

In article <DLBRES10.90May3112240@pc.usl.edu> dlbres10@pc.usl.edu (Fraering Philip) writes:
> >I don't think Josie Packard's national origin has been mentioned.

She's from Hong Kong.
-- - Barry gingrich%tisl@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu OR bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU

As a new reader of this bbs, I just wonder if anyone has
picked up on the seeming fixation with food, namely pie?
And is it true, or just my imagination, that the flavor of
pie is different in each episode thus far?

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In article <10978@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >
> >-- One definite inconsistency crops up. At the Town Meeting the previous
> >   night, Truman tells Cooper that Andrew Packard died "last year". At
> >   Josie's on Saturday, he tells him that Packard died "a year and a half
> >   ago", which would've been the year *before* last.
> >
Only if these events are taking place in July or later. After July,
a year and a half would be the beginning of last year. But, then again, 
since Andrew Packard died in a boating accident, it probably happened
after the lake thawed...unless he went ice fishing in a boat:-)



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Diane,
The data base you sent me was truly fanatastic, but it's been awhile since
my last report and you haven't updated it. I hope Albert isn't taking up too
much of your time again. What are the chances that you can get your data
base updated after tonight?
If the work load is too heavy I'll understand.
I wonder how tall these Douglas firs grow?

-- _ _ _ The Rule of Fives: All things happen in 5s or multiples of / ) ) ) / 5 or are in some way directly or indirectly related to 5. / / / __/_> "The harder I look the more I find this to be true." / ( (_/(_) \ -Malaclypse the Elder, KSC

Sorry if you've heard this one before...

The rumor is that extraterrestrials dunnit.
I didn't make this up.  Lynch supposedly had some 
movie in development for a long time about aliens.
It didn't work out, and now he can use some of those 
ideas in Twin Peaks.  That's the rumor.

I don't actually think that this is a real possibility.
I think that a psychotic serial killer did it. (The letter under
the fingernail must have been planted by a p.s.k.)  And
it wasn't one of the regular Twin Peakers. I would guess
that the dream Mike and Bob are involved and Laura's mother
must know something about it. Cooper's been on the p.s.k.'s case
for a while now.

In article <10491@yunexus.UUCP>, logan@yunexus.UUCP (Beryl Logan) oozed:

==> What was Benjamin Horne doing at the morgue, saying that he thinks he
==> speaks for others?

it looked like laura's dad, leland had some kind of
breakdown (the next (or previous? i forget) scene
shows him watching "invitation to love" and getting
some kind of shot from a nurse-like woman who didn't
look like laura's mom).  in previous episodes, 
laura's mom didn't seem to have it together enough 
to fight with albert over releasing the body.

but, i agree; it's kind of weird that ben is representing
the palmer parents.  besides being leland's business partner
(?) what _is_ his connection?

-- (I *knew* that Krusty would go free cuz he has small feet.) -- Ari Kahan <ucscc!mcimail.com!0004068145>

I just read in the news that TWIN PEAKS will air episodes on Thursdays
at 9pm for the 5th and 6th episodes, but the 'final' episode will air
on Wednesday, May 23 from 10p - 11p.

ABC has not announced whether or not the mystery will be solved this
season or if fans will have to wait until the fall.  Of course, ABC
hasn't even decided if TWIN PEAKS will be on the fall schedule.

THE YOUNG RIDERS will return in reruns to Thursday nights as of May
24, following a two-part season finale on Monday 5/7 and 5/14 from
8p-9p.


...eliz
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boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy)  says...

> > -- Cooper got to Twin Peaks awfully soon after Ronnette was found! He had
> >   to have driven up from Spokane -- it's the only place close enough and
> >   large enough to have an FBI office. Is there an FBI office in Spokane?
> >   Seattle I'd believe (we already know there's an OCB set-up there :-)).
> >   I suppose Cooper could've caught a hill-hopper from Seattle to Spokane
> >   (is there an airport there?) and driven up from there to Twin Peaks.

FYI: We had two FBI agents in Yakima, WA (pop > 50,000). They mainly kept 
track of goings on in the Indian reservations and timber poaching as well.  
Since Spokane has more than 100,000 people, I would imagine that they had 
several agents assigned there as well.

Dan Corpron
corpron@hri.com

Inside dope, 4th hand:
I know a guy who knows a guy who knows some guys that worked on the 7
episodes.  The guys who worked on the episodes said they didn't film a

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In article <1990May3.213958.3404@hri.com> corpron@sparc3.hri.com (Dan Corpron) writes:
> >FYI: We had two FBI agents in Yakima, WA (pop > 50,000). They mainly kept 
> >track of goings on in the Indian reservations and timber poaching as well.  
> >Since Spokane has more than 100,000 people, I would imagine that they had 
> >several agents assigned there as well.

Fine, but if Cooper had been stationed in Washington state, then
why is he so surprised at such things as Douglas Firs and cherry 
pie?  Or ducks?  Seems like he would have seen those kind of things
before had he been around that area.  No, I think he hopped on a 
plane from DC or Chicago or KC or something.  He's not only an
outsider, he's never been there.
-- - Barry gingrich%tisl@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu OR bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU

In article <308@sunee.waterloo.edu> abelinsk@sunee.waterloo.edu (Avi Belinsky) writes:
> >13) Cooper tells Diane that he thinks he can get some property that will
> >    be reasonably priced.  

I saw this as a reference to the previous comments about the
Great Northern having comfortable rooms at a reasonable price.
Verbal self-reference.
-- - Barry gingrich%tisl@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu OR bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU

In article <10978@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >-- "Kitty got a new collar."  Some people think this is significant, and
> >   might have something to do with Leo Johnson (whose truck is the "Big
> >   Pussycat"). I think this is a red herring, and refers to nothing more
> >   significant than perhaps her pet cat was given a new collar. That entry
> >   in the diary was written on 2/5 *of the previous year*, and thus is
> >   possibly unrelated to the events now in progress.

Someone else mentioned they saw, on the next page of the diary, "Made
some extra $$ today" (or something like that).

A whorehouse is often called a cathouse.  All the girls at One-Eyed
Jack's wore collars.  I think this is strong evidence that Laura got
involved in prostitution there.

I think Lynch is too creative to use a random red herring (who cares
if Laura has a pet cat?)  If he's going to the trouble of writing old
diary entries, then he's doing it for a real reason, not just to
confuse us.  Lynch loves to drop bizarre hints that *become
significant later*, e.g. Leo slicing up the football.  (Did anyone
else notice that Leo's fancy car was visible (though under wraps) from
the 0th episode?  Good hint for drug-dealing.)

If Lynch bothered to put it on camera, then it's related to the
current story.  Have faith in Lynch; he's too smart to be random.

Adam

In article <4aE2gfC00jukE5nEYR@cs.cmu.edu> Jon.Webb@CS.CMU.EDU writes:
(lots of careful reasoning about who dug up the locket deleted)

> >Who's left: Pete Martell, Leland Palmer, Leo Johnson, Andy, Hawk, Ed
> >Hurley, Dr. Jacoby, Major Briggs (from the main male characters so far).

Now that we know James is one of the Bookhouse Boys, it's clear he had
nothing to fear from the police (Sheriff Truman and Hawk).  Therefore,
I'm sure he simply told them where it was and had them go get it.
I would bet real money that one of those two dug it up.

Of course, this doesn't explain how it got into Doc's hands.

Adam

My nomination for best quote of the 5/3 episode:

"Let me know if there's any bloodshed.
   I'm going to give little Elvis  [wiggles doll]  a bath."
--Benjamin Horne

---------------------------------------------------------------

Runner-up:

"Aid to the Beast Incarnate"
--sign on veterinarian's clinic

---------------------------------------------------------------
--Fiona O.

In article <24139@netnews.upenn.edu>, lewis@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Matt Lewis)
writes...
> >} And BTW, check your VCRs, I say Lucy was the new girl at one-eyed jack's...

In article <10850@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy)
writes:
> >Well, I checked my VCR, and I say she isn't. Besides, she seems to work
> >24 hours a day at the police station. How can she possibly turn tricks
> >on the side, too? :-)

Obviously, it's her look-alike cousin.
-- Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com "`Truth' never set anyone free. It is only *doubt* which will bring mental emancipation." -- Anton LaVey, quoted by Arthur Lyons, SATAN WANTS YOU

In article <54369@microsoft.UUCP> chrisdr@microsoft.UUCP (Chris DRAGICH) writes:
> >In article <308@sunee.waterloo.edu> abelinsk@sunee.waterloo.edu (Avi Belinsky) writes:
>> >>13) Cooper tells Diane that he thinks he can get some property that will
>> >>    be reasonably priced.  Is he referring to the fact that Twin Peaks
>> >>    is a cheap place to live, or that someone (Ben Horne) is driving down
>> >>    the price so they can buy it all up?
>> >>
> >I think Cooper has just fallen in love with Twin Peaks, so he's thinking
> >about buying property there as an investment, or as a place to live
> >sooner or later. As for the "real cheap" line -- have you ever 
> >compared real estate prices between big cities and small towns? I assume
> >that since he's an FBI agent he's based in a large city, where prices
> >are naturally higher than in any smaller town.
> >
> >I think this is just another innocuous bit Lynch has thrown in showing
> >how much Cooper likes this town.

Cooper is planning on becoming the Sherriff.


>> >>19) Dr. Jacoby: "I'm a terrible person"  Why? Did he kill Laura?  Did
>> >>    he allow the murder?  Did he allow Laura to get into drug dealing?
>> >>    Is he referring to the fact that he just doesn't give a shit about
>> >>    the people in Twin Peaks?
> >
> >Did we all see Jacoby's trench coat at the cemetery? It sure looked like
> >what the person watching Leo/Bobby/Mike in the woods was wearing. I     
> >think Jacoby wanders at night a lot, to the cemetery in this episode, 
> >watching Leo/Bobby in the last one, and I bet he
> >was also watching James and Donna when they buried the necklace.
> >
> >But if Jacoby's not the one secretly watching stuff in the woods, it
> >has to be the Log Lady.

The Log Lady and Dr. Jacoby - a match made in (pie) heaven.


Another Message in the Bottle from
Robert DeBenedictis

(Rich Rosen) writes:
> >(Brian Roddy) writes:
>> >> J, R and the secret society seem to throw
>> >> off the evil sheriff theory for good.
> >
> >Don't count your chiclets.  It occurred to me that it was kind of odd for a
> >member of the police to have to be part of a "secret society" to fight crime.
> >What I was thinking was that the motivation for this society was not as
> >beneficent as it seemed.  Perhaps there are competing secret societies, the
> >Bookhouse Boys being one, and another one being comprised of people like Leo,
> >Bobby, Mike, Jacques and his brother (Frere Jacques, Frere Jacques, dormez
> >vous?...)  [PARDON MY FRENCH]  Each might see the other as a great evil.  Each
> >might be competing with the other, even in such areas as drugrunning.  Hmmm...

To quote Major Briggs: "Laura, died too soon"

Robert DeBenedictis

In article <19075.263c09ed@merrimack.edu> rand@merrimack.edu writes:
> > Sony, BMW, and Sam Adams' don't want to advertise to shoe salesmen.

Unless of course, they're missing an arm stamped "Mother".

Another Coincidence in the Lattice from
Robert DeBenedictis

Hmm -- this week has me a little confused. (More than usual!?!)

Looks like Bernard has been knocked off by Leo, and Jacques has been
threatened to keep out of the country.  Which one of the brothers,
Bernard or Jacques, was the bartender?  I can't remember.  Could
Jacques have conspired with Leo to kill his own brother?  Is Jacques,
in fact, really alive in hiding in Canada?

What's Hank's connection to Josie?  It sounds like Hank went to jail for
something that was clearly an accident, so there must have been some
extenuating circumstance (e.g., either Hank was driving drunk when he
ran someone over, or else he killed someone in an apparent accident
but had some interest in seeing that individual dead.)  But I seem to
remember that Hank was in jail for three years, and Andrew Packard
has only been dead for one year.  Could he have been Josie's lover?
Or, could they be enemies (maybe Josie was a witness against him)?
Also, it seemed from Norma's and Ed's conversations earlier that 
Hank was a dangerous criminal, but maybe he wasn't actually a brawler
or a wife-beater; maybe his problem was booze or drugs.  Guesses?

Wouldn't it be funny if Cooper turns out to be gay?  He doesn't say
much about his broken relationship, and he's awfully resistant to the
women of Twin Peaks, professional detachment aside.  (Although being
resistant to Audrey Cooper is simply self-preservation!)

Audrey is fast becoming my favorite character in the whole show!

In article <963@cica.cica.indiana.edu>, gribble@cica.cica.indiana.edu (gribble) writes...

} Did i miss a show? I thought there has been the pilot and 2 weekly shows--

Episode #0 (pilot)  4/8
Episode #1          4/12
Episode #2          4/19
Episode #3          4/26

Apparently, you missed a show.

} --if this is wrong what was the 1st weekly show about???
} Just briefly, please....

BWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!!  Describe an episode of TP *briefly*???!!!

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

Oh no, 7 more days till the next one! 

Looks like Jocelyn Packard & Norma have something in common eh?

My favorite thing was the Lydecker Vet Clinic, did everyone see that
huge fire hydrant? Nice Llama too! The best thing was the sign outside:

                    "Aid to the beast incarnate" 

Oh no, 7 more days till the next one!

No Diane this week either...DAMMIT!

Vickie (one of Vickie & Chris)
katefans@world.std.com

Perhaps coincidentally, the local public television station was
showing "Laura", the movie starring Gene Tierney, Dana Andrews,
and Clifton Webb, at the same time as TP.  I caught the last hour,
though, and was gratified to learn that one of the characters in
that movie is named Waldo Lydecker.  Lydecker is the name on the
animal clinic, and Waldo is the name of Mynah bird that may have
have chewed up Laura Palmer.

Some other people have already pointed out that the movie contains
a shadow Laura, who is killed at the beginning, and a real Laura,
which, by association, makes the theory that Madeleine is Laura
(or vice versa) more attractive.

The movie has a great title song, from which my subhect was taken.

--tim
Name    : Tim Peierls
Mail: peierls@svax.cs.cornell.edu
Scotch  : Laphroaig

Could some one please post an updated version of the casting list
for TP.  thanks.
Wintermute

-- I have absolute nothing worthy to say. So there! Wintermute

In article <10498@yunexus.UUCP>, logan@yunexus.UUCP (Beryl Logan) writes...

} My tape of the episode is out on loan, so I can't check this, but with
} all the discussion regarding the ever-increasing probability that the
} dead girl is not Laura

What "ever-increasing probability that the dead girl is not Laura"? I've
seen no one give any shred of evidence. It's all been sheer speculation.

} how did Cooper phrase his revelation to Harry that he knew the identity
} of the killer?  Did he say, "I know who killed Laura Palmer", because
} that would throw a krinkle into the hypothesis, or did he just say he
} knew who the killer was.

He said, "I know who killed Laura Palmer."

} As I recall, he was very off-hand at breakfast about telling Harry and
} Lucy that he forgot who it was, almost as if it didn't matter.  Seems odd
} that he forgot, first if he now knew the killer's identity, would he
} be able to fall back to sleep so easily?

He only said he knows. But it's in his subconscious, and the code of his
dream needs to be broken in order for him to know it on a conscious level.

} And, as others have said, why *could* it wait? (he wouldn't have
} forgotten something so important if he stayed awake till morning).

Maybe because he was aware that he only knew it in his subconscious,
so running around at 2:00 in the ay-em wouldn't accomplish anything.
Or, there was no reason to suspect that the killer would skip town in
the meantime.

} He seemed more excited about the code in the dream than the killer's
} identity.

Because the killer's identity is in the code.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <7148@odin.corp.sgi.com>, archer@sgi.com (Archer Sully) writes...

} Did anyone besides me notice that the nurse gave Leland an injection
} just before Madeline shows up?

I'm sure just about everyone did. What of it?  She was giving Sarah Palmer
injections in a previous episode. Tranquilizers.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

O.K. folks...what are the guesses as to what the double threes domino means?

Interesting that the dead body of Bernard was wrapped up just like Laura
Palmer's body.  Jacques was the bartender I believe...he was the one
returning to the bar when he saw the red light and knew there was
trouble.  

Hank *says* he went to jail for an accident.  Looked to me like he was
playing it up for the parole board.  "Victim of fate"...hmph.

When did Leo get time to beat up on his wife again before she returned
to work (after she was with Mr. Quarterback)?  She walks in talking
about getting hit...

Audrey seems to have spilled the beans about a lot of things, so do we
rule all of that out because that what D.L. EXPECTS us to believe...  ;-)
(Agreed, she is becoming one of the better characters...)

The Llama was a howl!  Not to mention the fact that after it looks at
Cooper and grunts, the sheriff looks to be making a major effort not to
laugh.  I wonder how many times they had to run that scene before they
got that take...

Why is the secretary mad at the deputy?  (I'm even worse with names...)

-kyle

Well, it looks like my theory that Doc Hayward was involved in the
digging up of the locket is dead.  If Donna had told him about it, she
wouldn't have been so shocked when Sarah mentioned the vision.

I suppose something like this happened: Leo and maybe Jacoby watched
them bury the locket.  After Donna and James drove off, they talked or
ate pie or went away or something for a long time, then one of them
walked over and picked up the locket, possibly without the knowledge of
the other.

I thought the direction of the 5/3 episode was the worst yet.  E.g., the
shot of dead Bernie -- what was going on there?  Did Leo kill him or
not?  Was he really lying there?  Cooper seemed like a different person,
etc.

It seems to me that Cooper should have been smart enough to have someone
waiting behind Bernie's apartment in case he tried to escape.

My favorite quote:
"Only four shots?"
"I put two in each eye, and one in each nostril."
"Nice pattern."

It seems pretty clear that Norma's husband is the person Sarah and
Cooper saw in their dream.

Whoever suggested that the dwarf (shrunken man) represents Jacoby (the
shrink) deserves a prize.

If the sign outside the vet clinic really did say "Aid to the beast
incarnate" then we have the connection to Satanism.  "The beast" is, of
course, the anti-Christ.

*Every* piece of evidence points towards Leo.  If he turns out to be the
killer, I'll be completely disappointed.

When Cooper talks to the rest of the FBI, he talks always to boxes.

-- J

In article <807@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU> bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU 
(Barry Gingrich) writes:
> > So Laura's mom can be psychic, yet Cooper can't?
> > Cooper seems to rely on and believe the content 
> > of his dreams.  I think he may walk through Hawk's
> > dream world, just like the rest of us, except that
> > Cooper has a knack for tuning in to "meaningful"
> > dreams.  The dream about the Dalai Lama and throwing
> > rocks, for example.

     In last night's episode (May 3), Cooper explains why he isn't present 
when Hawk sketches the portrait from Mrs. Palmer's description by saying 
that he was a "Strong Sender."  I think this is a direct reference to some 
kind of psychic communication.  In this case, if Cooper is psychic as 
well, it could easily explain why he has the same visions as Mrs. Palmer.


Chris

Regarding Audrey:
   She gets more and mor interesting every show. After the pilot (episode 0)
I said "Oh god... what a BITCH!" After episode 2 I said, maybe she's just a
bit mixed up. Now I can't wait for more of her. Very confused girl (with a 
serious crush on Cooper. I hope he isn't smart enough to aviod her like the
plague, though I suspect he is.) and very bright. I loved the way that she 
buttered up daddy to get into the cosmetics section of Horne Dept store (being
as she's the only one (other than Cooper) to realize the perfume connection
between Laura and Ronette). Now she's working on getting back into Donna's 
good graces (she knows about Donna:James) as well. On a second thought, maybe
she wouldn't make such a bad match with Cooper.

Regarding Madeline:
   I don't know, could be Laura, but maybe not. When she said "Goodbye, James
Hurley" I almost had a conniption, but viewing it on the tape later revealed
that I missed him telling her his full name. What does everyone else think 
about Maddie? It could be that Lynch figured that as long as he hired the girl
he could use her in more than flashbacks and photos. She *does* have a
fantastic mouth!

Regarding the Director:
   Damn good! Not Lynch, but he meshes well with Lynch's style. I really 
enjoyed his timing, perspective and values.

Regarding Josie:
   Oy Gevault! Maybe the reason tht she's keeping her relationship with Harry
S Truman secret is to prevent Hank from finding out. And what is with that
damn DOMINO?

Regarding Cooper:
   He seems to be loosing his manic energy. Also he down't seem to be on
speaking terms with Diane anymore. Brilliant as every, but he just doesn't
SHINE like Audrey's been doing.

Regarding Lucy:
   She was a lot of fun this episode. Truman (or was it Cooper) walks in and 
asks "What's happening?" So she responds with a plot synopsis of "Invitation
to Love"!! I *loved* it! Also, her relationship with Andy seems to be troubled.
I think her relationship with Andy isthe most unorthodox truely radical idea
I have ever seen on TV. The entire relationship exists only as a series of 
hints without any hard evidence. Until the current episode (which I call 4)
everyone has been saying that they *suspect* a relatinship between Lucy and
Andy! It's just like real life! We don't know anything. And now they're
having problems. Or at least Lucy thinks they are.

-- _ _ _ The Rule of Fives: All things happen in 5s or multiples of / ) ) ) / 5 or are in some way directly or indirectly related to 5. / / / __/_> "The harder I look the more I find this to be true." / ( (_/(_) \ -Malaclypse the Elder, KSC

In article <2333@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> adamk@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Adam Kao) writes:

> >I think Lynch is too creative to use a random red herring (who cares
> >if Laura has a pet cat?)  If he's going to the trouble of writing old
> >diary entries, then he's doing it for a real reason, not just to
> >confuse us.  Lynch loves to drop bizarre hints that *become
> >significant later*, e.g. Leo slicing up the football.  (Did anyone
> >else notice that Leo's fancy car was visible (though under wraps) from
> >the 0th episode?  Good hint for drug-dealing.)

Yes, Lynch does to drop hints that pay off later.  He also loves to drop
in things that have no significance at all, just because he likes them.
And let's not leave Mark Frost out of this; he's had a little something
to do with steering the series too.

> >If Lynch bothered to put it on camera, then it's related to the
> >current story.  Have faith in Lynch; he's too smart to be random.

This seems naive.  This kind of "Lynch is God and will do everything
just the way I would like it to be, amen" attitude ignores Lynch's very
real and specific gifts.  He's wonderful at atmosphere, mystery,
undefined suspense, and that kind of thing.  He has never been a
wonderful storyteller in terms of getting a simple narrative across
clearly; that simply doesn't interest him as much, and why should it?--
he's right to stick to what he does best.  But this idea of him as a
supergenius who never makes a wrong move does him a disservice.  Yes,
he IS smart; but he is also random, when it suits him to be.  Can't we
all agree that a number of elements are in this series because they're
FUN?  (Cooper's narratives to Diane and gee-whiz reactions, Lucy, Andy,
the soap parallels.)  I guess not, everything has to be mined for clues.

This has been thoroughly publicized everywhere so it isn't a spoiler.
Lynch picked somebody out of the blue to be the killer in the European
print of TWIN PEAKS, just because he looked at somebody and got an idea.
If that isn't random, what is?

Jon

"Confiscate their files. The bird that killed Laura Palmer is a client
 of theirs."

-- _ _ _ The Rule of Fives: All things happen in 5s or multiples of / ) ) ) / 5 or are in some way directly or indirectly related to 5. / / / __/_> "The harder I look the more I find this to be true." / ( (_/(_) \ -Malaclypse the Elder, KSC

Well, it looks like the log is going to spill its guts next week...

Tim

"Doughnuts, doughnuts, doughnuts..." - Lucy

This is my first time posting so please excuse any mistakes.

In the 5/3 episode, we learn that Lydecker( the vet ) treats a bird named
"Waldo".  In the movie "Laura", the killer is named Waldo Lydecker.  Several
people have picked up on other references to "Laura"--her photo for example.
Is this just another in-joke or is it significant?

Also a couple weeks ago in the Buffalo News, they interviewed the editor
of the second episode (the one Lynch directed), the editor said that 
everyone seemed to be picking Leo Johnson as the killer and he said:
"That isn't necessarily so."

Michelle

Here's some feedback from my last call a couple nights ago
(would have posted sooner, but I was out of town briefly...)

If you'd like to write to ABC, especially to express support
for Twin Peaks, he suggested writing directly to the top.
ABC's president is...

Bob Iger
2040 Avenue of the Stars
Century City, California  90067

He suggests that you definitely DO NOT put any mention
of Twin Peaks on a letters' envelope.  If they see that
they forward the mail to the Twin Peaks folks and don't
read it themselves.


Some quick answers to small questions...

1.  The rumor that ABC has already renewed Peaks for 20
    episodes (or any other #) is false.

2.  The rumor that anyone else has committed to picking up
    Twin Peaks if ABC drops it is false.

3.  They firmly believe though that ABC will continue it.
    They've proposed to do 26 episodes for next season.

4.  They're temporarily more-or-less out of touch with
    David Lynch, who's doing post-production work on his
    new film ("Wild at Heart") near San Francisco.

5.  Scott Frost has shown some of the alt.tv.twin-peaks
    messages that I've forwarded to Mark Frost; it seems
    Mark already at knew the newsgroup existed, but probably
    hadn't seen any of the messages on it.  Mark is taking
    some time off, and is in New Orleans right now.  I believe
    he'll be back by the end of next week, and perhaps he'll
    offer some comments on our USENET discussion then.

I'd expect most of the people involved with the show to be
taking as much time off as they can in May.  If the expected
renewal for next season comes through, they'll be busting a gut
from June through next March.


A footnote about the Frost family in Twin Peaks...

Warren(Dr. Hayward) is the father of the other two,
and has had a long career in acting.  Most of
his acting has been on the stage, but perhaps
some may remember him from the film version of
Slaughterhouse 5.

Mark[I trust everyone knows about Mark]

Scottis working on production, probably has a title
of "production assistant" or something similar.
Next season he'll also be a writer, with responsibility
for a TBD* number of episodes.

*TBD = to be determined.  Anyone who's had the
misfortune of writing MIL-spec specifications
knows this one well...

BTW, Scott does a walk-on bit in episode [pilot+]5.  His
comment about that was that "it'll show why some people are
paid to act and others aren't".  I haven't talked to the other
Frosts, but can testify that Scott is a bright guy with a good
sense of humor.


----------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@isi.edu

My wife just talked to a journalist friend of hers who apparently got
some advance information on who the killer is in Twin Peaks.  He
wouldn't tell her who it was, but did give her some hints.  Maybe
someone out there can get the real information from another journalist?

Anyway, here's the hints:

SPOILER WARNING
  
The murderer is NOT Leo Johnson.

Sheriff Truman has some `dark secrets' left to tell.

-- J

What could Benjamin Horne be up to?  In his talk with Leo (5/3
episode) he seemed to imply that he was involved in more than just
drug trafficking and burning down saw mills.  I'd be willing to bet
that he was trying to sell the Norwegians (and now the Icelanders)
more than just real estate.  And did he mention Hank (Norma's soon to
be paroled husband) as being involved in his deals?  What we've seen
of Josie in this episode looks sinister but maybe she's just trying to
defend herself or at least find out what Catherine and Ben are doing.
(She's convinced they might try to kill her.)  Hank might have offered
her his services as a spy.

The scene where Truman, Cooper, and the deputies go down in the
basement for target practice and Cooper tries to cheer up Andy
was wonderfully funny, and even touching.  "Chin up Andy, chin up."
It makes you painfully aware of how rare it is to find characters on
TV that inspire any real affection or sympathy, and it raises the show
above the level of a simple
clockwork/intellectual-puzzle/murder-mystery.

What a spectacularly good series.  I haven't had this much fun
watching TV since I was a little kid.
-- internet: kademan@stat.wisc.edu uucp: ...!{allegra,harvard,rutgers,ames, ucbvax}!uwvax!stat.wisc.edu!kademan

It occurs to me while trying to find a good cup of coffee in Pittsburgh
that there is a very good reason why Cooper likes the coffee in Twin
Peaks so much.  While in the rest of the country coffee comes from a
can, in Washington coffee comes from Starbuck's.  Just one of my top ten
reasons for wanting to move back to Seattle.

This psychic stuff is starting to get freaky, and make sense all at the
same time.  Laura's mother had the vision of the man? digging up the
heart because the owl saw it, perhaps?  Anyway, the efforts of the
animal kingdom were very effective in this episode.

Doug van der Veen

"I put one in each eye and two up each nostril."

The only mention of Diane in this first May episode of Twin Peaks
(probably not the same diane anyway) was when Hawk said his old
girlfriend had been "Diane Shapiro, PhD. Brandeis."
On the (title?) Maxwell Chronicles Wednesday night, a girl
mentioned she was "rocketing straight to Brandeis" on her
new SAT scores, by the way.
Anyway, I called alumni relations and there has never been
a Diane Shapiro (any spelling) who got a PhD. from Brandeis, not
in their database anyway.
So, you think this may be Cooper's Diane, or not?  Maybe the reason
he seemed so upset when talking about his relationship was that he
heard Hawk say this...naah.

-dana@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu

In article <10956@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >In article <QaD_Wau00jukMkQm47@cs.cmu.edu>, Jon.Webb@CS.CMU.EDU writes...
> >} Now, who knew where the locket was?  Only James Hurley and Donna
> >} Hayward. [...] Unless some unknown person was standing there and
> >} watching them as they buried it -- but in that case we can't
> >} conclude anything about the killer.
...
> >Aren't you totally missing the obvious here?  Like, that Jacoby might
> >have been the one who dug it up?

I agree.  I'm beginning to think that Jacoby is the 
"stranger in the woods" who dug up the locket and also
the one behind the tree in the Leo/Bobby/Mike football scene.
My reason:  Jacoby mentions something about "his own investigation."
This would probably imply snooping into the lives of other 
people, especially those Laura had spoken about.

Further, I'd bet that Jacques is the "J" that she was
nervous about meeting that night, mostly because of the
drug connection and the fact that Jacques is the kind
of guy one would be nervous about meeting.
-- - Barry gingrich%tisl@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu OR bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU

In article <1990May04.182615.6991@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> dana@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Dana Goldblatt) writes:
> >Anyway, I called alumni relations and there has never been
> >a Diane Shapiro (any spelling) who got a PhD. from Brandeis, not
> >in their database anyway.

Imagine that.  Brandeis doesn't give Ph.D.s to fictional characters? :)

> >So, you think this may be Cooper's Diane, or not?  

I wondered the same thing when Hawk first mentioned her name, but I
didn't see any spark of recognition from Cooper, so I figured it 
was yet another cosmic coincidence.  Another twin, in name this time.
-- - Barry gingrich%tisl@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu OR bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU

In article <13274@venera.isi.edu>, raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) writes:
> > 
> > If you'd like to write to ABC, especially to express support
> > for Twin Peaks, he suggested writing directly to the top.
> > ABC's president is...

There should have been one more line in that address:

> > Bob Iger
ABC<----------------------------
> > 2040 Avenue of the Stars
> > Century City, California  90067

> > Some quick answers to small questions...

I forgot to mention that Scott said last week's episode
is the weakest in the initial pilot + 7.  He suggested
that they get progressively better in the remaining episodes,
but added a disclaimer that he hasn't seen the final edits yet.


----------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@isi.edu

In message  <DLBRES10.90May3112240@pc.usl.edu> dlbres10@pc.usl.edu
(Fraering Philip) writes:
> >About the tibetan connection:
> >I don't think Josie Packard's national origin has been mentioned.
> >Could she be from Tibet?

I believe that it has been stated that Josie was brought to America from
Hong Kong.  Although she could still have been born in Tibet but that is
unlikely.

This is out of the paper at home (Kenosha News, Monday April 30)
 
Dana Ashbrook, who plays Bobby Briggs on "Twin Peaks," couldn't keep a secret from his girlfriend -- he told her who killed Laura Palmer on the ABC hit series.
 
"I have to live with her and sleep in the same bed with her and if I didn't
tell her, I'd be out the door," Ashbrook told People magazine.  But he's not
telling anyone else, even though he is bombarded by people wanting him to revealthe mystery.
 
"Everyone wants to know, everyone," he said.  "I mean, my mom and dad call and say, 'We've got to know who did it!  We've got to know!'" Ashbrook says.
 
"I can't tell them and they get kind of peeved at me but what can I do?  My 
Dad's a tallker and he'd probably spill the beans to his class (he teaches drama)."
 
Scott "Cheesehead" Ladewig

In message  <1840@bnlux0.bnl.gov>  abrams@dan.amd.bnl.gov (The Ancient
Programmer) writes: 
> >But, then again, 
> >since Andrew Packard died in a boating accident, it probably happened
> >after the lake thawed...unless he went ice fishing in a boat:-)
I don't know,  The hornes seemed to have an easy time boating to One
Eyed Jacks.

Maxwell A. Hopkins
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"
-Sigmund Freud

In article <10896@sun.udel.edu> conrad@sun.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:
> >In article <2333@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> adamk@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Adam Kao) writes:

>> >>I think Lynch is too creative to use a random red herring (who cares
>> >>if Laura has a pet cat?)

> >Yes, Lynch does to drop hints that pay off later.  He also loves to drop
> >in things that have no significance at all, just because he likes them.
> >And let's not leave Mark Frost out of this; he's had a little something
> >to do with steering the series too.

>> >>If Lynch bothered to put it on camera, then it's related to the
>> >>current story.  Have faith in Lynch; he's too smart to be random.

> >This seems naive.  This kind of "Lynch is God and will do everything
> >just the way I would like it to be, amen" attitude ignores Lynch's very
> >real and specific gifts.  He's wonderful at atmosphere, mystery,
> >undefined suspense, and that kind of thing . . .
> > . . . Yes,
> >he IS smart; but he is also random, when it suits him to be.  Can't we
> >all agree that a number of elements are in this series because they're
> >FUN?

Wait, I guess I didn't make myself clear.  Although I said that Lynch
doesn't do things for no purpose, my idea of a "purpose" is not just
"in order to advance the plot."  I understand that other good purposes
include maintaining atmosphere or suspense, providing character
insight, satirizing soap-opera cliches, and miscellaneous "fun".

Now consider writing "Kitty got a new collar" on a diary page which
appears on camera.  Someone gave the opinion that this was a red
herring, designed to confuse us and hence unrelated to the plot.  In
other words, it was a throw away line which we would have been better
off not seeing.

That would be no fun.

My opinion is that this detail hints at Laura's involvement with
prostitution.  This would accomplish several purposes:

(1) Provide insight into Laura's character.
(2) Foreshadowing.  When the truth comes out, we will say "of course!"
(3) Confuse people until the truth comes out.

Isn't this more fun?  Don't you think Lynch is capable of this?

Granted Lynch wants to confuse us, but scribbling meaningless phrases
is the *CHEAPEST* way of doing this (I see it in introductory creative
writing courses all the time).  It's more satisfying, more elegant,
more FUN when a phrase (or detail) is confusing on the surface, but
makes perfect sense when viewed in a different light.  Lynch is the
master of "a different light".

> >Lynch picked somebody out of the blue to be the killer in the European
> >print of TWIN PEAKS, just because he looked at somebody and got an idea.
> >If that isn't random, what is?

Lynch did not play eeny meeny miney moe with the workers on the set.
He saw a stagehand, _and_he_liked_his_look_, so he brought him in.
Lynch takes advantage of chance and coincidence, but only when it
serves his purpose(s).  That's not randomness, that's serendipity.

It takes significant effort to script and film every scene.  There's
plenty of time in the process to think about what's happening and
generate creative details.  There is NOT enough time to waste on
making up irrelevant details.  Most creative people invest so much
time and effort in their creations that they think about every last
detail, asking themselves again and again, "why am I putting this in?"

"To confuse the audience" is not an acceptable answer.  "To have fun"
is certainly an acceptable answer.  I hope the difference is clear.

> >Jon

Adam

Here's my two nominations fo top quote:
Cooper :"Harry, the last thing I want you to worry about is some city
slicker pissing upstreem of your town."
Harry :" I'd think you'd be afraid to go to sleep at night."

Maxwell A. Hopkins
Even if you win the rat race, you're still a rat.

In article <1840@bnlux0.bnl.gov>, abrams@dan.amd.bnl.gov (The Ancient
Programmer) writes:
> > In article <10978@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's
Buddy) writes:
>> > >
>> > >-- One definite inconsistency crops up. At the Town Meeting the previous
>> > >   night, Truman tells Cooper that Andrew Packard died "last year". At
>> > >   Josie's on Saturday, he tells him that Packard died "a year and a half
>> > >   ago", which would've been the year *before* last.
>> > >
> > Only if these events are taking place in July or later. After July,
> > a year and a half would be the beginning of last year. But, then again, 
> > since Andrew Packard died in a boating accident, it probably happened
> > after the lake thawed...unless he went ice fishing in a boat:-)

Did anyone notice if they said it was a local boating accident?
He might possibly have been off cruising someplace like
the San Juan Islands.


----------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@isi.edu

In article <809@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU>, bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU
(Barry Gingrich) writes:
> > 
> > Fine, but if Cooper had been stationed in Washington state, then
> > why is he so surprised at such things as Douglas Firs and cherry 
> > pie?  Or ducks?  Seems like he would have seen those kind of things
> > before had he been around that area.  No, I think he hopped on a 
> > plane from DC or Chicago or KC or something.  He's not only an
> > outsider, he's never been there.

Wasn't there a line in the pilot (by Truman?) about
calling Cooper in from Portland?


----------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@isi.edu

During the interogation by Cooper, Dr. Jacoby indicate that he
had follow a red sports car (Leo's) into the old mill house around 
the forest.  Jacoby later lost track of the red car.  But he could 
have stay the forest around and found Donna and James bury the 
half heart.
Wintermute 


-- I have absolute nothing worthy to say. So there! Wintermute

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Subject: Soundtrack<-----a misnomer. and a few random musings.



Ok, Ive been looking at this newsgroup long enough now that noone has
actually
heard the Julee Cruise record, "Floating Into the Night."  Until now,
that is.
I had the cd of this album from the day it was released...long before
the show
was even hyped. Anyway, I think I've digressed a bit.  All the tracks
are
written by David Lynch, and all the music, of course, is composed by
Angelo
Badalamente (sp?). It contains the track Julee Cruise sang in "Blue
Velvet."
For those of you who don't pay CLOSE attention to music credits, this
is the
song that was played at the VERY end of the movie.

Let's see what else does it have.  The opening theme music is one of
the
songs on the Julee Cruise album, on the album though the song has
words, and
the song that was being sung (by Julee Cruise, by the way) in the
roadhouse
on the TP pilot, is also on the album.  Let's see, what ISN'T on the
album.
Unfortunately, the tune the midget dances to is not on the disc, and
neither
is that haunting piece of theme music that they've used incessantly
through-
out ALL the episodes. Believe me, I like the music, but Im getting a
little
bit weary of the overuse of that one particular piece.

On a whole, I'd say the album is pretty good, not particularly for the
lyrics,
which seem rather prosaic, but for the feelings the songs evoke.  The
album
has David Lynch's signature ALL over it, and is a joy to listen to in
the
wee hours of the morning....This is "after midnight" music at its best.

Also, a few random comments:

I don't know if it is just me, but I find myself at the beginning of
each
show looking at who directed it, and if it is not David Lynch, already
having the idea in my head Im not gonna like it.  It's pretty
unfortunate,
really, even though I feel a little bit uneasy with the way the show
has
been promoted as a "David Lynch TV Series" and up to this points has
only
directed, what, one of the actual episodes, (not counting the pilot).
so
much emphasis has been made on the David Lynch aspect, that I am afraid
we
true fans are gonna be left in the lurch, when Lynch moves onto other
things, and lets Twin Peaks fall where it may.

Also, Ill be damned pissed if at least the true killer of Laura Palmer
is
not revealed by the end of these first set of scripts.



"CinderSoul" 

Be with me Beauty, for the fire is dying...

Beauty, have pity, for the strong have power,
The rich their wealth, the beautiful their grace,
Summer of man its sunlight and its flower,
Spring-time of man all April in a face.

Let me have wisdom, Beauty, wisdom and passion,
Bread to the soul, rain where the summers parch.
Give me these, and though the darkness close
Even the night will blossom as the rose.
                  -John Masefield

From article <2341@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU>, by adamk@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Adam Kao):

> It takes significant effort to script and film every scene. There's
> plenty of time in the process to think about what's happening and
> generate creative details. There is NOT enough time to waste on
> making up irrelevant details. Most creative people invest so much
> time and effort in their creations that they think about every last
> detail, asking themselves again and again, "why am I putting this in?"
>
> "To confuse the audience" is not an acceptable answer. "To have fun"
> is certainly an acceptable answer. I hope the difference is clear.

The difference isn't clear at all. You seem to be arguing that Lynch
does not waste time on irrelevant details. If a detail is
there, it is there for a purpose. But what purpose? The catch-all
purpose you propose is "to have fun". But fun for whom? Shouldn't
it be fun for mystery-lovers? That seems to be the major interest
here on the net. Posters constantly offer theories based on the
observed "clues". Tossing in countless red herrings
(both intentional and unintentional - I don't believe Lynch has
"total" control over his creative genius) is a rather callous way for a
director to treat his detective-minded audience. If eventually, all
the clues come together and I am awed by the totality of revelations
about the murder and blown away by Lynch's seemingly confusing method
of story-telling I will be the first to bow down and hail Lynch as a genius.

But thus far, Twin Peaks seems to be nothing more than your typical
soap opera done to excess in spots? Take for instance the sandwich
scene in the 3rd episode. Was it anything more than deliberate,
juvenile, heavy-handed oddness? Did it advance the
plot or develop the characters or was it simply Lynch saying "Watch me take
a normal scene like a reunion and twist it."? Quite frankly, it was just
silly. Perhaps it was parody? Humor? If the purpose is unclear, the
effect is random. The only purpose that I can fathom it
served was that it set the mood. Twin Peaks just screams mood. It is
very stylish. In fact, it is nothing more than
images and music (and the occasional clever line). This is what
Jon pointed out (if I understood his post). But you might
as well watch MTV if that's all you want. Twin Peaks has a quality that
is usually reserved for European films. It is lyrical. It is entrancing
without being the slightest bit understandable or consistent.
Take the dream sequence. Fun to watch, but what does it mean?
The net has some fairly intelligent posters, but noone has
posted an interpretation that fits (though some have made
intriguing guesses). And this is from people who spend a good
portion of their lives playing the VCR game. Cooper said the
dream is a cipher; crack the code, solve the crime. But it looks
like you will have to solve the crime and then figure out what the
dream means. Again, everything may finally fit together and fit like
a Swiss clock, but I would be very suprised (happily though).

So I agree with you that Lynch is a stylistic genius but style without
substance is typical TV fare.

> Adam

Curtis E. Dyreson

In article <10851@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >In article <1990Apr26.234931.8135@alembic.acs.com> csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) writes:
> >
> >} 1) During the Tibetan baseball scene, the entire TP Sheriff's Dept.
> >} (Truman, Andy, Hawk, and even Lucy) are in the woods with Cooper.
> >} Who is guarding Ronette Pulaski while this is going on?
> >
> >Harry, Andy, Hawk, and Lucy are *not* "the entire TP Sheriff's Dept."
> >If you take another look at the pilot episode, you'll see that there
> >are *at least* two other officers (the one who goes into Room 107
> >at the school looking for Bobby, and then another who comes into the
> >same room to mumble something to the first one).

Take a look at their shoulder patches. They appear to be State Patrol,
or at least not Twin Peaks. There were dozens of uniforms at the
railroad car site, some of them apparently National Guardsmen. After
the pilot, the only uniformed personnel we've seen (and consider how
many of the scenes are in the Sheriff's Dept.) are Truman, Hawk and
Andy.

I'll admit that three men seems like an awfully small force for a
town with a five-digit population.

-- Dave Mack

I'm sold.  Laura Palmer is alive and well.  I don't have the hair
figured out, but Madelyn did not respond in the way any normal woman
responds to seeing a large, hulking goon (or any stranger) staring at
her in a public place.  A big, wide smile, and immediate conversation?
More like a reaction to a friend.  Also, her expressions are exactly
the same, which is not true of most actresses when they play two
different roles -- but Laura was not an actress.

This also makes sense of the code in the dream.  "She's my cousin, but
doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?"  "Are you Laura
Palmer?" "I feel like I know her, but sometimes my arms bend back."

Finally, best moment of the show:  Emerald stroking Chet's head and
then looking at her hand.  Second best:  "I put four in the eyes and
one in each nostril."
-- Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com "Do what you wanna, do what you will; Just don't mess up your neighbor's thrill. And when you pay the bill, kindly leave a little tip To help the next poor sucker on his one-way trip." - Frank Zappa, "You Are What You Is"

In article <809@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU> bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU (Barry Gingrich) writes:
> >In article <1990May3.213958.3404@hri.com> corpron@sparc3.hri.com (Dan Corpron) writes:
>> >>FYI: We had two FBI agents in Yakima, WA (pop > 50,000). They mainly kept 
>> >>track of goings on in the Indian reservations and timber poaching as well.  
>> >>Since Spokane has more than 100,000 people, I would imagine that they had 
>> >>several agents assigned there as well.
> >
> >Fine, but if Cooper had been stationed in Washington state, then
> >why is he so surprised at such things as Douglas Firs and cherry 
> >pie?  Or ducks?  Seems like he would have seen those kind of things
> >before had he been around that area.  No, I think he hopped on a 
> >plane from DC or Chicago or KC or something.  He's not only an
> >outsider, he's never been there.

Bad news - they have ducks in both DC and Chicago. Cooper's from
some place farther away. Mars, probably.

If you'd like a totally unfounded guess, try this: Cooper is attached
to the FBI's Behavioral Sciences Unit, which specializes in investigation
of the crimes of psychopaths, especially serial killers. He came to
Washington because it was "almost exactly a year ago to the day" that
Teresa Banks was killed, and his intuition told him that it was time
for another one. He got to Seattle a day or two before the murder, and
hasn't had much time for sightseeing.

On the other hand, a big part of Cooper's charm is his child-like 
delight at almost everything. You could probably drop him in the
middle of Oklahoma and he'd find things to wonder at. "Sheriff,
tell me, what are these incredible weeds you've got growing here?"
"That's sage brush, Agent Cooper." "Sage brush... Is the coroner's
report ready?"

-- Dave Mack

Note to readers who want to post "spoilers":

> >SPOILER WARNING
> >  
  ==

The formfeed character has to be in the FIRST column for most versions
of RN to stop there automatically.  The above doesn's stop anything.

Of course, when absolutely all else fails, as a last resort we could try 
the bold step of actually reading our own postings after submission...

In article <UaEMJ9K00jukQTW2Fz@cs.cmu.edu> Jon.Webb@CS.CMU.EDU writes:
> >I thought the direction of the 5/3 episode was the worst yet.  E.g., the
> >shot of dead Bernie -- what was going on there?  Did Leo kill him or
> >not?  Was he really lying there?  Cooper seemed like a different person,
> >etc.

I dunno.  I thought the direction was pretty good this time around.  Best of
the non-Lynch directed ones, in my opinion.  I thought it was made pretty
clear that Leo offed Bernie.  Heavily implied, at the least, and it made
Ben Horne uncomfortable enough not to want to go into the details...Leo
isn't someone you wanna get miffed.

> >It seems pretty clear that Norma's husband is the person Sarah and
> >Cooper saw in their dream.

How so?  I don't remember Hank resembling Killer Bob at all (who is the 
dream person I think you're referring to).  Please explain.  It's not
clear to me...
-- - Barry gingrich%tisl@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu OR bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU

In article <1990May4.044207.5141@world.std.com> katefans@world.std.com (Chris'n'Vickie of Kansas City) writes:
> >Oh no, 7 more days till the next one! 
> >My favorite thing was the Lydecker Vet Clinic, did everyone see that
> >huge fire hydrant? Nice Llama too! The best thing was the sign outside:
> >                    "Aid to the beast incarnate" 
> >Vickie (one of Vickie & Chris)

  Wanna bet the llama's name is Dolly?
  Do you suppose the llama was trained to give Cooper that 'look' as it
strode by him at the animal clinic, or was it just good karma?
  Since all the animals' files are arranged by pet's first name, I have to
assume that the parrot in question has a double as well.  I'd also bet
that when the bird talks it sez "Let's Rock!"
  Oh yes, the coffee pot.  Who's got a guess about the fishy coffee?  Was
that a red herring or was it Josie's shenanigans?  Is there some cross-
cultural meaning to putting a fish in someone's coffee?
  Why do you suppose Cooper & Truman exchanged that double take when they
entered the one-armed man's room and the fellow turned around?
  Andy's getting some good script, finally.  I liked his line about the
shoes :-)
  Twin Peaks: Not Just Another Who-donut.
--Jim

In article <11304@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) writes:
> >I'm sold.  Laura Palmer is alive and well.  I don't have the hair
> >figured out, but Madelyn did not respond in the way any normal woman
> >responds to seeing a large, hulking goon (or any stranger) staring at
> >her in a public place.  A big, wide smile, and immediate conversation?
> >More like a reaction to a friend.  Also, her expressions are exactly
> >the same, which is not true of most actresses when they play two
> >different roles -- but Laura was not an actress.

I don't know.  The references that another poster mentioned about
a move with the "Vertigo" syndrome was fairly persuasive.  The
protagonist was named Laura, there was some guy named Waldo Lydecker...

Still, I feel that Madeline is NOT LP.  First, Albert would have done
found out in the autopsy.  Second, it's my feeling that Laura is to
Madeline as Emerald is to Jade.  That is, Laura is the evil (not the
right word, maybe "bad" is better) twin, Madeline is the good twin.
We haven't seen much of Laura without tons of blue makeup, so it's
hard to judge facial expressions.  It's my feeling that Madeline's
smiles are downright goofy.  I would be surprised if Madeline were
to be anything but a naive, sweet, youth.

-Sho
-- sho@physics.purdue.edu <<-- downright goofy, I say.

In article <10970@shlump.nac.dec.com>, boyajian@ruby.dec.com (That's me!) writes...

}} Duwayne Dunham directed an episode of Twin Peaks [...]

}} [...] Does anyone know who Duwayne Dunham is?

} He was the editor on the TWIN PEAKS pilot [...]

Having just the other day rented and watched BLUE VELVET for the first
time since it's initial run, I noted that Dunham was also the editor on
that as well.

I also rented ERASERHEAD (which I haven't seen in well over 10 years)
and noted that the assistant cameraperson (and Lynch's assistant to
boot) was Catherine Coulson, who plays the Log Lady in TWIN PEAKS.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <DLBRES10.90May3112240@pc.usl.edu>, dlbres10@pc.usl.edu (Fraering Philip) writes...

} About the tibetan connection:
} I don't think Josie Packard's national origin has been mentioned.
} Could she be from Tibet?

Well, it's certainly possible that she could be, originally, from
Tibet. But in the pilot, Truman told Cooper that Andrew Packard had
brought Josie over from Hong Kong six years earlier.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <1840@bnlux0.bnl.gov>, abrams@dan.amd.bnl.gov (The Ancient Programmer) writes...

}} -- One definite inconsistency crops up. At the Town Meeting the previous
}}   night, Truman tells Cooper that Andrew Packard died "last year". At
}}   Josie's on Saturday, he tells him that Packard died "a year and a half
}}   ago", which would've been the year *before* last.

} Only if these events are taking place in July or later. After July, a
} year and a half would be the beginning of last year. But, then again, 
} since Andrew Packard died in a boating accident, it probably happened
} after the lake thawed...unless he went ice fishing in a boat:-)

Need I point out that they've made it quite clear more than once that
the events we're seeing unfold are taking place in February?

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <6014@scolex.sco.COM>, hannan@sco.COM (Rosebud...) writes...

} but, i agree; it's kind of weird that ben is representing the palmer
} parents.  besides being leland's business partner (?) what _is_ his
} connection?

Well, as Truman told Cooper, "He owns half the town," and thus probably
serves as a patriarch of sorts, given that the mayor seems to be more
than a tad senile.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

An aquaintance of mine suggested that the little man in Cooper's dream was 
shaking at the beginning of it because he was trying to get control of the 
dream.

I don't really know what to make of this, but it does make a wierd sort of
sense.

gene

This regards the insidious perfume counter! (I smell a rat.)

In a previous episode (#2 Ithink) Ben Horne remarks to his brother that
"there's a new girl at One-Eyed Jacks...freshly scented from the perfume
counter!" Since both Laura and Ronnette worked at Horne Department Store's
perfume counter is this the conduit for fresh talent at the brothel?
Will Ben allow his daughter Audrey to join the club now that she wants to work
at the perfume counter as well?

Also, was the Kitty reference in Laura's diary about one of the girls at Jack's
? You'll note (if you have the tape) that all the girls were wearing collars 
or chokers. Laura wrote "Kitty got a new collar today."

Does anyone know what happened to Donna's younger sister? She covers for her in
in the pilot when Donna (she knows a lot more than she tells) sneaks off to see
James, but we never see her again. Not even when the family gathers for dinner
in the first episode. A throwaway character? (Child actor abuse!)

I'm impressed with the level of discussion in this newsgroup. It's quite 
thought provoking...even though it is just television. We all need our
diversions.

Britt Rideout <rideout@zygote.hsc.usc.edu>

Whew!  After laboriously reading every single article about TP in this
newsgroup, I discovered that I may actually have an original clue to
offer.  Yippee!

Near the beginning of episode (pilot + 5), Cooper is interrogating Dr.
Jacoby.  Jacoby, as usual, is wearing what another reader of this group
described as "3-d glasses" (one red lens, one blue lens).

Now, Jacoby is a psychiatrist, and his job involves putting people
enough at ease that they'll open up to him about their problems.  It
would be in Jacoby's professional interest not to indulge in bizarre
behavior such as walking around wearing 3-d glasses.  So why does he
wear them?  TO CORRECT COLOR-BLINDNESS.  Most types of color-blindness,
I'm told, can be partially compensated for by wearing the type of
glasses Jacoby wears.  (It has something to do with red light being
processed by the brain at a slightly different speed than blue light,
allowing the color-blind wearer of these glasses to train his or her
brain to distinguish between the images seen by the left eye, and those
seen by the right eye; i.e., the wearer learns to artificially
differentiate colors.)

Assume Jacoby is color-blind (he might not be; Lynch or Tamblyn or
somebody might simply have seen the glasses someplace and decided that
they were "right" for the character).  Assume also that he can't wear
his "3-d" glasses while driving at night for the same reason that you
wouldn't wear sunglasses while driving at night.  How, then, does Jacoby
know that on the night following Laura's death, he was following a man
in a RED Corvette?  Was he deliberately trying to implicate Leo in
something?  I feel like I should call Cooper (or Diane) and tell him
about the glasses :-).

Possible second Jacoby clue:  When Cooper awakes from his dream in
episode (pilot + 3), he is snapping in time to his dream's music.  The
manner and rate of his snapping is very reminiscent of the way the Jets
snap their fingers in West Side Story.  And, of course, Russ Tamblyn
(Dr. Jacoby) played the Jets' leader, Riff.

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In article <4aE2gfC00jukE5nEYR@cs.cmu.edu> Jon.Webb@CS.CMU.EDU writes:

[...lots o' stuff deleted...]

> >
> >Who's left: Pete Martell, Leland Palmer, Leo Johnson, Andy, Hawk, Ed
> >Hurley, Dr. Jacoby, Major Briggs (from the main male characters so far).
> >
> >I think the most likely choices among these are Pete Martell, Leo
> >Johnson, or Ed Hurley.
> >

You seem to be overlooking the obvious: at the end of the following (?)
episode, we see Dr. Jacobi at home, where he puts on headphones, slips a
tape from Laura into his stereo, sits down in a lounger, and removes the
necklace from inside a coconut, holding it up to the light while listening
to the tape and beginning to weep.

I think Jacobi was also the "mysterious lurking form" behind Leo the night
he met with Mike and Bobby.

I DON'T think he killed Laura Palmer.

--magik (aka magik@norby.acns.nwu.edu)

"Look, it's trying to think!"

In article <13289@venera.isi.edu> raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) writes:
> >
> >Did anyone notice if they said it was a local boating accident?
> >He might possibly have been off cruising someplace like
> >the San Juan Islands.
> >

Mostly unrelated, but...speaking of boating accidents:

Did anyone else feel a cold shiver go down their spine when Jerry (?--
Catherine's husband; I forget his name) mentioned the fishing tournament
coming up in the 5/4 episode? I saw it as a mighty convenient place to be
rid of prying eyes if the torching of the mill doesn't work, and if Ben and
Catherine get any ideas. BAD thoughts.

--magik (aka magik@norby.acns.nwu.edu)

"Look, it's trying to think!"

In article <1990May5.003159.26423@alembic.acs.com> csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) writes:
> >
> >I'll admit that three men seems like an awfully small force for a
> >town with a five-digit population.
> >

Yeah, this bothers me too...

In article <10985@shlump.nac.dec.com> hallyb@globbo.enet.dec.com (John Hallyburton) writes:
> >When Cooper and Truman are hearing Albert's report, I noticed that Cooper
> >looked a lot like Jimmy Dean, singer and pork sausage maker.  James Hurley
> >plays a James Dean character.  Aha -- James Dean, Jimmy Dean -- yet another
> >case of the "doubles"!     :-)


Funny, when I was watching the dream sequence episode--number 3?--I thought
that the old Cooper (from the dream) looked like Ronald Reagan, when you saw 
him in profile. Anyone else care to comment? :-)

--magik (aka magik@norby.acns.nwu.edu)

"Look, it's trying to think!"

(David Jason Kyle) asks:
> >Why is the secretary mad at the deputy?

I suspect Lucy is mad at Andy for the same reason that
Special Agent Cooper assigned him firing practice, i.e.,
maybe Andy prematurely shot his "gun" the night before.

Robert DeBenedictis

A fellow TP fanatic told me he heard actor Michael Horse (Hawk) being
interviewed on a local radio station.  Supposedly, Horse said that
after the editing was complete on the 4/19 episode, there was a 
screening attended by Mr. Lynch and some of the cast.  After the dream
sequence, the screen went blank.  One of the actors asked Mr. Lynch
what he thought, and his reply was supposedly "Well, folks, we just lost 
Peoria."

OK, it's at least third hand information, and possibly apocryphal, but
I thought the remark was hilarious.  Nothing against Peoria, mind you...


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I saw Blue Velvet again this weekend.  Some interesting retro-parallels:

Same bass-and-snare mood theme
Gratuitous shot of log truck
Antlers (on the front of the Slow lounge)

Perhaps these are Lynch signatures, and have no relationship to
plot lines and clues. 

On the wall of Jeff's father's kitchen is a large log, which says
`Tiverton' on it.  Does this log talk?

The character Kyle M. plays is a budding detective, who appears to 
have an intense first-love experience with one of the purest, 
nicest girls-next-door in modern cinema.  Any chance that Cooper's
reference to his broken heart might cast the Blue Velvet character
as a biographical pre-Cooper?

Favorite quote from the 5/3 episode:

"I'm a strong sender."
- Cooper, on seeing sketch of Sarah's vision

After taking such care not to trivialize Laura's death, the casual
introduction of a corpse by the river (Bernard) jarred.  The fact that
Horne drops his cigar wrapper next to it may be of significance.
Also, what was Bobby doing in Jacques' house?

Great show. Fun newsgroup. Get a copy of 'Floating Into the Night' (Julee
Cruise, Warner) - It has 'Falling', the TP title theme, but some of the other
tracks are otherworldly, goosebump-raising good.  For the sceptical, see 
M.Fremers review of the album in the Mar/Apr 90 issue of 'The Absolute Sound'
magazine.

Sanjay
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In article <80129@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>, gadkari@giza.cis.ohio-state.edu
(Sanjay Gadkari) says:

> >Also, what was Bobby doing in Jacques' house?

He was busy planting Leo's bloody shirt in a drawer, so that when the
police check out Jacques' apartment they link J+L into the murder, so
that, inter alia, Leo "won't ever bother you again" and get sent off to
gaol.  Luckily for Bobby, J+L *are* linked, perhaps even to the murder,
so when the police do make that connection ("there's your connection")
they are fortunately correct.  More doubling??  (Some signifier for humor.)

--                                                      ele@psuvm.psu.edu
jeremy..                                        crampton@yon.geog.psu.edu

Robert Steven Glickstein writes:
> >..Jacoby, as usual, is wearing what another reader of this group
> >described as "3-d glasses" (one red lens, one blue lens).
> >So why does he wear them?  TO CORRECT COLOR-BLINDNESS. 

Gee, and I thought he was just trying to look like Randy of the Redwoods.

--Fiona O.

I thought everyone knew that the sign says Population: 11,201.  Thus
Twin Peaks really is a tiny town.  Also, the `01' is a nice touch when
you find out Laura is murdered right after the first time you see the
sign back in the premiere.

First, a thougts on Leo setting fire to the mill:
Each episode has been a day.  Leo is supposed to wait three
nights for the signal to proceed with the burning.  Thus this
places it in episode seven.  My guess is that one of the last
scenes will be Leo setting fire to the mill and that we will
have to wait til the fall to find out what happens to the mill,
just as we have to wait til the fall to find out about the killer.
(Though this could all go up in smoke, please pardon the pun,
if the blood on Leo's shirt does match Laura's or Ronnette's
and he is sitting in jail.  Though Cooper and Truman would
would probably try to tail Leo and find out who else is involved.
And what if it does not match the blood from either?)

I assume that the green light that Ben referred to is the traffic
light which has been so prominently been displayed previously.
Now is this just foreshadowing, or is there someone else who
is waiting for an appropriate signal?

Second, One Eyed Jacks:
I doubt that Lucy has any connection with it.
Two, it is almost a sure thing that Laura worked there, to pay for
her drug habit.  Ben mentioned that the new girl was "freshly
scented from the perfume counter" which could imply the following:
Dissolve some cocaine in some of the perfume (perhaps that would
be given to the workers themselves) so that after a while they
would be addicted to the stuff and then offer them a job at OEJ
as payment for their habit.  (Would dissolving cocaine in perfume
actually work?)  How else could Laura afford her habit?

Third, man in woods watching Leo, Bobby, and Mike:
This could very well be Jacobi.  He knows that Laura saw (met?)
a strange man in the woods and could have gone out there to look
around.  His lifelong investigation is probably merely
his reflection upon his failure to get through to Laura, which he
could feel contributed to her death as he was not able to help
her end some of her "wild" behavior.

Fourth, traveler:
The killer is someone who has an opportunity to travel.  Remember
from the pilot the murder of Teresa which occured in the southwest
corner of the state?  From what we were given TP is in the northeast.
Who do we know that travels?  Leo Johnson?  The one-armed man?
Also why was the man that Laura saw in the woods strange?  Did she
not know him?  Was he not from TP?

Fifth, finally back to the flesh world mystery:
Now that Cooper has been to Leo's place perhaps he will recognize it
next to Ronnette's picture.  Though that man looks more like
Jacques than Leo.  Another connection?  Espeicially as from the
previews it looks like they are going through Jacques' apartment
when they find it.

Lastly,
The "R" under Laura's fingernail.  Initial of the next victim,
Ronnette?  Or the killer, Robert?  What was the letter that
was under Teresa's fingernail?  We never did see that talk
between Cooper and Truman.

Yes, I was urging Josie to not go out in a boat!

I am still eagerly waiting for Cooper to find out about/meet Madeline!!!!!


"Diane,
It is nine-thirty pm.  We are at the sawmill which is on fire.
The blaze started in the west end of the building and is being driven
by through the building by the wind.  Mmmm, the smoke from those Douglas
Firs smells wonderful."

"One woman can make you soar like an eagle,
 Another can give you the strength of a lion,
 But there is only one woman in your life
 Who will make you know that you have shared a singular thing."
-Hawk
  (Please excuse any mistakes, doing it from memory.)

-Robert Lentz
 lentz@norby.acns.nwu.edu or lentz@nuacc

P.S.  I have checked a couple times and the sign clearly says 51,xxx where
xxx is a number I cannot remember right now, but I belixe around 200.

In article <1990May6.030423.10933@world.std.com> deben@world.std.com (Robert J DeBenedictis) writes:

>> > >Why is the secretary mad at the deputy?

> > I suspect Lucy is mad at Andy for the same reason that
> > Special Agent Cooper assigned him firing practice, i.e.,
> > maybe Andy prematurely shot his "gun" the night before.


Either that, or Lucy saw him at One-Eyed Jacks while she
was working undercover there, and is quite perturbed.

magik@norby.acns.nwu.edu (Jeff Williamson) writes:
> > Funny, when I was watching the dream sequence episode--number 3?--I thought
> > that the old Cooper (from the dream) looked like Ronald Reagan, when you
> > saw him in profile. Anyone else care to comment? :-)

What struck me about Cooper in that dream sequence is
that one half of his face was aged but the other
half (the side away from the camera -- you could
only see when he turned his head) wasn't.  This
is the same condition a major character of the
film "Zardoz" was in.

I've been trying to make other connections between
T.P. and Zardoz, to see if Lynch was using this
regularly (and thus to shed light on the mysteries
of T.P.), but I haven't come up with any.  In "Zardoz,"
Sean Connery played Zed, some sort of noble warrior,
who is brought into a community of semi-psychic
(apparently) immortals to re-introduce death to the
community.  The resolution to "Zardoz" involves
a lot of revelations about certain entities controlling
other entities behind the scenes.  Any ideas?

--paul

In article <11304@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) writes:
>> >>I'm sold.  Laura Palmer is alive and well.  I don't have the hair
>> >>figured out, but Madelyn did not respond in the way any normal woman
>> >>responds to seeing a large, hulking goon (or any stranger) staring at
>> >>her in a public place.  A big, wide smile, and immediate conversation?
>> >>More like a reaction to a friend.  Also, her expressions are exactly
>> >>the same, which is not true of most actresses when they play two
>> >>different roles -- but Laura was not an actress.

In article <3652@newton.physics.purdue.edu> sho@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu
(Sho Kuwamoto) writes:
> >Still, I feel that Madeline is NOT LP.  First, Albert would have done
> >found out in the autopsy.

How?  Mistaken identity is not any pathological syndrome of which I am
aware.

Dental records could tell them apart, but he'd have to decide to doubt
the positive identifications by people who knew her well to go to the
inconvenient step of checking dental records.  What he was after was how
the girl died, not who she was.

> >Second, it's my feeling that Laura is to
> >Madeline as Emerald is to Jade.  That is, Laura is the evil (not the
> >right word, maybe "bad" is better) twin, Madeline is the good twin.

The relevance of this?

> >We haven't seen much of Laura without tons of blue makeup, so it's
> >hard to judge facial expressions.

What?  What do you call constant prolonged shots of her photographs?
"Madelyn" in the double-R has exactly the same smile we've seen in
so many photographs.

> >It's my feeling that Madeline's
> >smiles are downright goofy.  I would be surprised if Madeline were
> >to be anything but a naive, sweet, youth.

Well, I hope you think the same of Laura, then, since the expression
is identical.
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In article <812@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU>, bgingric@Intrepid.ECE.UKans.EDU (Barry Gingrich) writes...

} I agree. I'm beginning to think that Jacoby is the "stranger in the
} woods" who dug up the locket and also the one behind the tree in the
} Leo/Bobby/Mike football scene.

I'm not sure about the latter, but after the 5/3 episode, I'm convinced
of the former. He told Cooper and Truman that he followed a red corvette
to the Old Sawmill Road, and then lost it. He was probably nosing around
looking for it when he saw James and Donna bury the necklace, and dug it
up afterwards.

(Since Truman mentions the Old Sawmill Road during the sequence when he
and Coop are following Joey Paulsen and Donna, it's undoubtedly the same
neck of the woods that's being reference in both sequences.)

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <1990May4.031632.17134@athena.mit.edu>, jstahlhu@hstbme.mit.edu (Julie Kozaczka Stahlhut) writes...

} Looks like Bernard has been knocked off by Leo, and Jacques has been
} threatened to keep out of the country.  Which one of the brothers,
} Bernard or Jacques, was the bartender?  I can't remember.

Jacques was. Bernard was the one that the Bookhouse Boys had on ice in
the Bookhouse.

} Could Jacques have conspired with Leo to kill his own brother?

Possible.

} Is Jacques, in fact, really alive in hiding in Canada?

It certainly seems certain that he's alive. I can't see that Leo would
be the least hesitant about mentioning killing Jacques, if he had killed
him. Whether Jacques is really hiding out in Canada is anyone's guess.

} What's Hank's connection to Josie?  It sounds like Hank went to jail for
} something that was clearly an accident, so there must have been some
} extenuating circumstance (e.g., either Hank was driving drunk when he
} ran someone over, or else he killed someone in an apparent accident
} but had some interest in seeing that individual dead.)

I seem to recall during the parole hearing that there was a remark made
about his being drunk, and thus the charge against him would be vehicular
manslaughter.

} But I seem to remember that Hank was in jail for three years, and
} Andrew Packard has only been dead for one year.

And Andrew's death was allegedly a "boating accident" (I'd be willing to
bet that Horne hired Leo to do him in, though).

} Could he have been Josie's lover? Or, could they be enemies (maybe Josie
} was a witness against him)?

Most likely the former.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <VD5#-0#@rpi.edu>, mok@pawl.rpi.edu (Malachi Orion Kelerison) writes...

} "Confiscate their files. The bird that killed Laura Palmer is a client
} of theirs."

I'd have to check, but I'd be surprised if Coop said, "The bird that
killed Laura Palmer...". I think she her death was caused by something
a lot more serious than a bird-beak.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <2333@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU>, adamk@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Adam Kao) writes...

} I think Lynch is too creative to use a random red herring (who cares
} if Laura has a pet cat?) If he's going to the trouble of writing old
} diary entries, then he's doing it for a real reason, not just to
} confuse us. Lynch loves to drop bizarre hints that *become significant
} later* [...]
} If Lynch bothered to put it on camera, then it's related to the
} current story.  Have faith in Lynch; he's too smart to be random.

First of all, what's so uncreative about being random?

Second of all, Lynch isn't the only creative hand in this series, or even
of the pilot film.

Thirdly, are we then to decide that the fish in Pete Martell's percolator
will turn out to be yet another patient of the Lydecker Clinic, and had
belonged to Leo Johnson before he killed it by using it to beat Shelly
a couple of days before?

As I've quoted before, from Alan Moore about his and Dave Gibbons' graphic
novel WATCHMEN: "Everything means something, but not everything means a
lot."  Just because it's there for us to see doesn't mean it's a clue to
the mystery.

Who knows, it may well become significant later on that Laura had a pet
cat.  Maybe it was a patient at the Lydecker Clinic, and that's where
she met Jacques Renault?

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

While I was telling a non-twinpeaks friend (an oxymoron?) about the
baseball scene, I had a thought...

Might it not be the case that the greatest psychological, or
sub-conscious, reaction would result in the widest miss of the ball
rather than the direct hit.  The direct hit would seem to imply the
least unbalance rather than the most.

Which character elicited the WIDEST miss???

In article <3483.2636b0d2@wums.wustl.edu>, soper_n@wums.wustl.edu writes...

} 2) The midget says "She's *MY* cousin", not she's Laura's cousin, as many
} posters refer to her. Apparently TV Guide says Laura's cousin will appear
} this week, so now it looks like all three are relatives?

Not necessarily. As we saw in the next episode, the woman in the dream
was not cousin Madelein after all, but was indeed Laura. But, the dwarf
saying that "She's my cousin" doesn't mean that he's yet another relative
to Laura and Madeleine. It's more likely dream-code that Cooper will recall
later when he discovers that there's a Madeleine Ferguson who is Laura's
cousin and looks like Laura.

} 5) The cassette tape that Dr. Jacoby plays is labeled "With Love, Laura",
} further establishing a romantic link between the two.

Why?  There are folks whom I signed letters or cards to with "love, jerry"
but with whom I have no romantic relationship.

} Will we ever see the school principal again?  He seemed overly moved by
} the knowledge of Laura's death.  Another regular at the Jack?

I think one of the points of the series is that Twin Peaks is a place
where one person's death seems to affect everybody. Laura wasn't just a
faceless person, either. She seemed to be involved in a lot community
activities. The principal may well be so affected because Laura was,
after all, the Homecoming Queen, and was no doubt aware of her tutoring
Johnny Horne and Josie Packard.

-- "I've got compassion running outta my nose, pal. I'm the sultan of sentiment." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

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In the 'summary of what's happened so far' bit at the beginning of episode 4
(the last one), there is a shot of the hand digging up the necklace, and an
immediate cut to Jacoby holding the necklace in his office.  I take this as
confirmation that Jacoby is indeed the one who dug up the necklace, in case
there was still any serious doubt on the subject.  Of course, since the
necklace was given *to Laura* by what's-his-face (suddenly blanked on the
name), rather than to him by her, one might wonder why it is that it has such
great significance for the doctor.

My favorite quote from the last episode:
"Doctor, were Laura's problems of a sexual nature?"
"Gentlemen, the problems of our ENTIRE SOCIETY are of a sexual nature!"
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