Season 2, Episode 18: On the Wings of Love — April 04–10, 1991

> >  13.  Glasses/sunglasses:
> > Doctor Jacoby,
> > Madeleine Ferguson,
> > Laura Palmer/Donna Hayward, 
> >         Evelyn Marsh, and
> > Thomas Eckhardt

Your forgot Ben, Jerry and the Log Lady

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

- When we last left our heroes, Jones was in the bookhouse.
_ She put perfume on Truman's and her own lips. Truman half awake
  thought it was Josie. Jones tried to strangle Truman but he broke
  free and knocked her out.
- Audrey serves Wheeler breakfast at the Great Northern and Wheeler
  asks Audrey to go on a date with him at sunset
- Jones wishes to see the South African consulate so we here from
  Truman. When Cooper mentioned a certain recipe, Truman got sick
  and went to the men's room
- A bonsai tree from Josie (in reality from WE with a bug planted
  on it so WE can listen in) was put in Harry's office. Gordon Cole
  arrives with a dossier on WE. In the document it said that WE
  worked for the Air Force to investigate UFOs. He also used
  haloparodol (a drug also used by the OAM) to feign sickness).
  Gordon during this sees the bonsai tree and says "BONSAI!" to the
  tree and an irate WE who's listening in gets an earache.
- WE plays a card trick with Leo. The cards have faces pasted on
  them. The cards are:
     Queen of Clubs-    Donna
     Queen of Diamonds- Audrey
     Queen of Spades-   Shelley
     King of Spades-    Agent Cooper
     Queen of Hearts-   blank (it will be Miss Twin Peaks)
                        whoever wins the contest will get killed
                        with Dale Cooper as an observer.
     (Anybody want to tell me why Donna is QC, Shelley QS, and
      Cooper KS?)
- Donna follows her mom, Eileen, to the Great Northern Hotel.
- Mike and Nadine check out of hotel and Mike said the night
  in the honeymoon suite was unbelievable
- Donna asks Audrey if she knows the connection between Ben and
  Eileen who were meeting at that moment. Eileen wanted to
  destroy some letters that could open old wounds and was kept
  at her house for twenty years. They departed before Audrey and
  Donna could find out what Ben and Eileen talked about via the
  secret passage.
- Cooper, Truman, and Gordon go to R&R. Truman goes to men's

  room and got sick after hearing what cuisinary delights
  Gordon said. (That must be some hangover Truman has.). Gordon
  tries to pick up Shelley. Gordon amazingly can hear Shelley talk
  even without the hearing aid (which we must be reminded was on
  full volume).
- Cooper tries to draw the tattoos of the Log Lady and Major
  Briggs together.
                     /\
                   /    \
                   \    /
                     \/
              /\    /  \     /\
            /    -<      >-     \
          /         \  /          \
        -------------/\--------------
                   /    \
                   \    /
                     \/
  ( No I don't know how diamonds came from triangles)
- Coop tries to tell Annie a joke about two penguins. The picture
  is recognized as the one in Owl Cave
- Donna reads a San Fransisco postcard from James. His next stop
  is New Mexico. There are flowers for Eileen, no card.
- Audrey looks for book on obedience and bumps into Edward Perkins,
  a poetry teacher who recognizes the Shelley poem sent to SAD
  (Shelley, Audrey, & Donna). The teacher is WE in disguise. (This
  time I recognized him). WE smokes.
- Annie ask about Cooper from Shelley while Shelley is wondering
  if Annie is in love with Coop
- Andy, Hawk, Harry and Cooper are going spelunking in Owl Cave.
  Gordon has gone with Shelley to Doc Haywards to check his
  hearing we are told by Cooper.
- Johnny shoots bufallo cutouts with his arrows. Ben wants to be
  a better father to Audrey and gives her a good position. She
  is going to Seattle by plane to help the pine weasel cause
  much to her surprise. (She's going to miss her date with
  Wheeler.) Ben asks some advice about honesty from Wheeler who
  replies to tell the hard truth first. Wheeler also said he's
  in love with Audrey to Ben. They munch carrots together.
- Cooper, Hawk, Truman, and Andy are in a cave and sees the
  picture that was also drawn by Cooper. An owl tries to attack
  the group. Andy swings his pickaxe and hits the top diamond?
  The middle diamond opens and a rod with a symbol appears:
                 The owl leaves the cave.
      /\/\/\   - Cooper mentions to Diane its Thursday 9:05 p.m.
      /    \     He sees Annie and that scar. She won't explain
      \    /     now but in time.
        \/     - WE goes to owl cave and saw what was uncovered.
                 he sees on the ceiling the symbol inverted so
  he turned the rod so the symbol is upside-down. The wall then
  crumbled.

 (This episode seems to confirm Windom Earle, BOB, and owls are
  somehow connected)

In article <27FB03B7.4000@orion.oac.uci.edu> dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
> >In article <1991Apr4.042943.20246@ms.uky.edu> bud@ms.uky.edu (William K Glunt) writes:
> >#In article <640@hydra.bucknell.edu> tmeade@pollux.tmc.edu (timothy meade) writes:
> >#>>From: Richard.Travsky@samba.acs.unc.edu (Richard Travsky)
> >#>>A question about the Log Lady - Is she natural or base 10?
> >#>My guess is that she's base tree...
> >#
> ># Or Oaktal.
> >
> >A HEX on you for these jokes!

We've all BIN putting up with this long enough.

-Matt
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..
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In article <63534@bbn.BBN.COM> ingria@BBN.COM writes:
> >
> >Annie having been a cloistered nun (i.e. one who never left the
> >convent or had contact with non-nuns), that's rather far fetched in
> >this time and place (USA).  If she is made out to be one, that's as
> >much of a silly stereotype as the Mountie showing up in full Dudley
> >Doright costume.

Oh, well. Looks that way though since they've already showed us
that she alomst forgot how to use money! At least she claims to have....

Hmm.

-Matt
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In article <21734@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >In article <9097@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) writes...
> >
> >} In article <1991Mar29.223810.18762@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes:
> >
> >}} Does Doc Hayward know who Windom Earle is?
> >
> >} Quite right! He does know who Wyndham (note spelling) is [...]
> >
> >Sorry Matt, but Sanjiv got the spelling correct. It *is* "Windom" and not
> >"Wyndham". It says so in the episodes themselves.

Yes, I know the "proper" spelling, but I'm a member of that
small minority that believes that "Windom" is a stupid way
to spell what should be, IOHO, "Wyndham".

-Matt
^^^^
^^^
^^
^

In article <21735@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >In article <9289@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) writes...
> >
> >} In article <91090.210224SAUDA@MAINE.BITNET> SAUDA@MAINE.BITNET writes:
> >
> >}} I think that the shortened intro was a result of the extended recap
> >}} needed at the beginning of the first show.
> >} Yes, but it has been that way for the past several shows.
> >Yes, because the "past several shows" had been preceded with a "Gulf War
> >Update" that ate into the available time.

That's what I used to think! But then I noticed that a couple of
those weeks, they've had no Update during that time. Perhaps
L/F shortened it to make a longer show?

-Matt
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In a previous article, rbn@Apple.COM (Robert B. Neville) says:

> >Didn't David L. Lander also play the somewhat shady insurance man helping Bobby
> >and Shelly get Leo's 'swing' installed?
> >

I think he did!

So, is he, like, basically this scam artist character?  And, his involvement
with the pine weasel is nothing but a hoax?  A way for him to get money from
people?  And, if so, this could be the reason that we, as of yet, have not
decided whether there *is* such a thing as a pine weasel.  It could just
be a ferret!

Keith
-- Zone motifs: Rats, peeing on lit trees, Catlicks, golf, aliases, dogs and squirrels, pink flamingos, donuts, hair color, abortion, mayors, gods and goddesses, ministers and mistresses, romance, Twin and Triple Peaks, sex, greetings and non-greetings, Penultimates, Zippy, lud, power tools, and raymond

What ever happened to Dennis/Denise?  Seems like the FBI has deserted
Coop.  No Albert.  No Gordon.  Just WE.  I thought they were all
interested in nabbing WE.

About the Gazette.  It's April and we just got our February issue.  I
was disappointed in that the editorial content is so scattered and what
are supposed to be town news articles were on the hoaky side.  I was
hoping that it would be more like an actual Twin Peaks paper.  Where do
they get off on the $29.95?  

The usernet is much more entertaining, informative and creative.  And
it's FREE!

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

In article <51114@apple.Apple.COM> larryy@Apple.COM (Larry Yaeger) writes:
> >
> >However, my wife, Levi, is pretty certain that she's heard of J.J.Wheeler out
> >here in the "real" world, but can't recall the context.  Anyone know who this
> >individual is?

For some reason the name Wheeler is bothering me too.  Isn't there a
physicist named Wheeler, maybe something to do with quantum mechanics or
cosmology?  I can't remember his first name though.

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In article <jms.3945@vanth.UUCP> jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:
> >
> >For some reason the name Wheeler is bothering me too.Isn't there a
> >physicist named Wheeler, maybe something to do with quantum mechanics or
> >cosmology?  I can't remember his first name though.

Well, I just looked it up.  Relevant or not, John Wheeler was an advocate
of the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics for a while.  He
eventually rejected it as "carrying too great a load of metaphysical
baggage."

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In article <1991Apr4.042943.20246@ms.uky.edu>, bud@ms.uky.edu (William K Glunt) writes:
|> In article <640@hydra.bucknell.edu> tmeade@pollux.tmc.edu (timothy meade) writes:
|> >
|> >>From: Richard.Travsky@samba.acs.unc.edu (Richard Travsky)
|> >>
|> >>A question about the Log Lady - Is she natural or base 10?
|> >
|> >My guess is that she's base tree...
|> >
|> 
|>  Or Oaktal.

     Fir God's sake, stop trying to spruce up the net with these jokes.  I
pine for an air of seriousness here -- what we need is a strict disciplinarian
at the elm to punish you offenders. (I'm sure if he were alive, Eric the Redwood
do it. Or maybe Roy Cone.)  I guess we can no longer depend on the kindness of 
strangers, like Branch DuBois did.  How about this:  the next person to make a tree pun willow the net an apology.  If you don't, we'll kick your ash, or
maybe just Lynch ya, like we were in the John Birch Society.  We'll leaf your
nude body swinging in the wind, like a Maplethorpe photograph, your pitiful
existence trunkated, squashed like a couple of mesquitos.  And I assure you,
Bush would pardon us.  You should be ashamed, the pear of you.

     (Forgive me. When I get in front of a terminal, I don't know what happens.
Just remember, my bark is worse than my byte.)
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In article <jms.3907@vanth.UUCP>, jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:

|> Gee, I didn't say he *looked* like a Klingon, I said he *was* a Klingon.
|> It was a play on "The Trouble With Tribbles."  You know, tribbles love
|> humans, but they freak out in the presence of Klingons.
|> 
     No, in fact he was a proto-Vulcan.  I guess that makes him Wise beyond
his ears. :-)
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In article <9554@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) writes:

|> >#In article <640@hydra.bucknell.edu> tmeade@pollux.tmc.edu (timothy meade) writes:
|> >#>>From: Richard.Travsky@samba.acs.unc.edu (Richard Travsky)
|> >#>>A question about the Log Lady - Is she natural or base 10?
|> >#>My guess is that she's base tree...
|> >#
|> ># Or Oaktal.
|> >
|> >A HEX on you for these jokes!
|> 
|> We've all BIN putting up with this long enough.
|> 

I have gotten to the ROOT of the problem in my other posts.

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In article <1991Apr3.065613.12203@panix.uucp> dfl@panix.uucp (Danny Lieberman)
writes:
[deletions]
> >So why hasn't anybody tracked/plotted the chess game moves?  They
> >must be following some "real game" progression...
> >
> >                                             -- Danny L.

Well...not really. Here is my personal theory of the moves to date.
Coop's moves are reconstructed from the position shown on the board
in Truman's office after the murder of the 'drifter', presumably the
representing Earle's third move, PxP. Comments are based on examining
a couple of books on Openings.

   Earle   Coop          Comments
1. P-K4               As Bobby F would say, "The correct move".
           N-QB3      Nimzowitsch Defense
2. P-Q4               Usual reponse and a damn fine move anyway.
           P-Q4       Nimzowitsch himself played P-K4, but Krevitz
                      championed this one.
3. PxP                Usual continuation.
           P-QN3      ?? Usual is NxP, but perhaps Pete and Coop are trying
                      to avoid capturing Earle's pieces as well as losing
                      their own.
4. N-KB3              This is the usual reply to Black plays 3. NxP.

I won't attempt to anaylze this as I don't know very much about chess. 
However, I will note that Earle could have played '4. QxP' if he doesn't care
about winning and just wants to capture pieces. Maybe a real player can comment
on the last two moves and the current position. We got a couple of comments
some months ago when we had a go round on what Coop's first two moves were.

-Rich Haller           -I am not a real real chess player.
                       -I just play one in alt.tv.twin-peaks.

In article <1991Apr4.091107.12241@pbs.org> mpax@pbs.org (Cool Bean) writes:

>> >>  13.  Glasses/sunglasses:
>> >> Doctor Jacoby,
>> >> Madeleine Ferguson,
>> >> Laura Palmer/Donna Hayward, 
>> >>         Evelyn Marsh, and
>> >> Thomas Eckhardt

> >Your forgot Ben, Jerry and the Log Lady

Oops.  Thanks.


--Jeff "Koganuts" Koga
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Internet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu        2)"Dances with Wolves" by John Barry
Bitnet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.bitnet          3) "Star Trek II:TWoK" by James Horner
Recommended CDs:      4) "Soundtrack from '^Twin Peaks^'" by Angelo Baladamenti

I think ABC wanted to kill off Twin Peaks ever since
the "Who killed Laura Palmer" mystery was solved--
why else would they put it opposite Cheers?  But
this is all IMHO.  Anyway, the ratings follow:

2.  Cheers                               NBC    26.4
77. Twin Peaks                           ABC     6.2

BTW, Twin Peaks was the lowest rated ABC show.  Life
Goes On (71), Equal Justice and Young Riders (65),
and PrimeTime Live (61) were the next highest ABC
shows.
--
Jeff "Koganuts" Koga              1) "The 'Star Wars' Trilogy" by John Williams
Internet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu        2)"Dances with Wolves" by John Barry
Bitnet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.bitnet          3) "Star Trek II:TWoK" by James Horner
Recommended CDs:      4) "Soundtrack from '^Twin Peaks^'" by Angelo Baladamenti

In article <9557@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) writes:
> >
> >Yes, I know the "proper" spelling, but I'm a member of that
> >small minority that believes that "Windom" is a stupid way
> >to spell what should be, IOHO, "Wyndham".
> >

It seems obvious that misspelling his name is just one of the
many cruel jokes played on Windom by his parents.  That and those
daily 12 hour clarinet lessons are what probably drove him over the edge.

jas@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (mr  j.a. grant) writes:
> > Leland Palmer was a character in an old movie called "LAURA",
> > in which LAura was killed.....
> > Or was she?
> > 
> > Also 
> > 
> > Waldo was a patient of Dr. Lyedecker.
> > 
> > Waldo Lyedecker was a character in a movie called 
> > "All That Jazz"
> > Does anyone have a clue on this?

I believe these have been pointed out before.  But what *hasn't* is
the fact that there is an ACTOR named Leland Palmer in a small role in
"All That Jazz".  What can it mean????

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In article <1991Apr4.161108.29332@mack.uit.no> vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen) writes:
> >In article <1991Apr4.021858.10645@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, jas@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (mr  j.a. grant) writes:
> >|> Leland Palmer was a character in an old movie called "LAURA",

"Laura" is covered in the FAQL (Frequently Answered Questions List).
Read it, live it, be it.  However, I don't remember a Leland Palmer in
it.  Is that true?

> >|> Waldo was a patient of Dr. Lyedecker.

Huh?  Waldo Lydecker was a character in "Laura", yes?

> >|> Waldo Lyedecker was a character in a movie called 
> >|> "All That Jazz"
> >|> Does anyone have a clue on this?

Not so far as I know.  Where are you getting this stuff from?

> >I've heard of a old film noire classic called Laura with several references
> >to Twin Peaks:

Somehow I doubt that.

Prescient of Preminger, if true.

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "House, bridge, well, gate, jug, olive tree, window" --Rilke

(Followin' up m'self)

> >"Laura" is covered in the FAQL (Frequently Answered Questions List).

Janet (poobah of the FAQ) tells me I'm wrong about this.  It does
seem as if *someone* was keeping track of movie/media refernces in TP.
I know I've seen such a list, but it was a while back.  Does anyone
have it?

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "House, bridge, well, gate, jug, olive tree, window" --Rilke

In article <1991Apr4.124605.12247@pbs.org> mpax@pbs.org (Cool Bean) writes:
> >What ever happened to Dennis/Denise?  Seems like the FBI has deserted
> >Coop.  No Albert.  No Gordon.  Just WE.  I thought they were all
> >interested in nabbing WE.

Denise isn't FBI, she's DEA.  Her case was closed, she made her
report, end of involvement.  We saw Albert just one episode ago, and
he mentioned Gordon then.  What's the beef?  Do we have to have Albert
*every* week?

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "House, bridge, well, gate, jug, olive tree, window" --Rilke

In article <jms.3905@vanth.UUCP>, jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:
>> >>In article <1991Apr01.212545.5703@ecst.csuchico.edu> rosimcg@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Rosi McGillivray) writes:
>>> >>>the Three Sisters, Mount Lassen, and Mount Shasta. The shapes of
>>> >>>the Log Lady's tattoo look to me to be the outline of Mount Shasta,
>>> >>>a POWER POINT for the GREAT WHITE LODGE (or GW Brotherhood, AKA
>>> >>>Freemasonry and Rosicrucianism). I'm wondering if there is a
>>> >>>connection brewing (right along with the 'Joe') between TP and
>>> >>>the eerie goings-on of Mount Shasta. ???
> >
>> >>Hey, you could be on to something.  I posted something a while ago about
>> >>the White Lodge and Sirius and aliens and tunnels in the Himalayas.
>> >>(Coop's going to be exploring a cave next episode, so it looks like I may
>> >>be at least partly right!)  I was aware that some of the mountains in
>> >>question were power points, but I didn't know that the White Lodge was
>> >>involved.  I've also heard of a woman who believes that survivors of
>> >>Lemuria are living under one of them.
> >
>> >>This is fun!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>I think so, too. And, yes, it is Mount Shasta where the Lemurians
>>> >>>are said to reside. They occasionally come into town, where they
>>> >>>trade gold for salt (!). I think the White Lodge connection is
>>> >>>the most potentially interesting subplot (please forgive me)
>>> >>>most likely becase I'm in northern California and I have studied
>>> >>>Mount Shasta, Freemasonry, and Rosicrucianism. 
>>> >>>Tonight's the night!!! (Thursday, that is)
>>> >>>Rosi

no .sig 'cause I', not real


> >And I haven't even mentioned the connection between donuts and space-time
> >warps....  :-)
> >
> >--
> >*  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp     | "You know I never knew
> >Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | that it could be so
> >37 Brook Street       | uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms  | strange..."
> >Montgomery, PA 17752  | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    |     (R.E.M.)
ROSIMCG@OAVAX,CSUCHICO.EDU

Sorry folks, about my recent post where I told about Mount Shasta.
I know I did the >>> thingies wrong, but I AM only a neophyte in
the forest of you masters. I think, BTW, that it's remarkable to
find so many people (that's you guys) who automatically assume
common knowledge of Squiggy. I thought L&S was supposed to be sort
of sitcom never-never-land. (I watched it 'cause we only got one
channel at that time). Regardless, I think he is the perfect sleazeball
to help Ben Horne with his Ghostwood anti-project. And, of course,
the perfect weasle handler. Now it we can just ferret out all
those wood-be puns and get on to T-P!

Peace...

no .sig 'cause you're not real

ROSIMCG@OAVAX,CSUCHICO.EDU

Oops! I messed up. Thank you Stephen Joseph Smith for pointing out the error.
I here is the corrected version.
In article <1991Apr4.175949.2722@ns.uoregon.edu> rhaller@phloem.uoregon.edu
writes:
> >Well...not really. Here is my personal theory of the moves to date.
> >Coop's moves are reconstructed from the position shown on the board
> >in Truman's office after the murder of the 'drifter', presumably the
> >representing Earle's third move, PxP. Comments are based on examining
> >a couple of books on Openings.
> >
> >   Earle   Coop          Comments
> >1. P-K4               As Bobby F would say, "The correct move".
> >           N-QB3      Nimzowitsch Defense
> >2. P-Q4               Usual reponse and a damn fine move anyway.
            P-K4       Nimzowitsch himself played P-Q4, but Krevitz
            ^^^^       championed this one.       ^^^^
> >3. PxP                Usual continuation.
> >           P-QN3      ?? Usual is NxP, but perhaps Pete and Coop are trying
> >                      to avoid capturing Earle's pieces as well as losing
> >                      their own.
> >4. N-KB3              This is the usual reply to Black plays 3. NxP.
> >
> >I won't attempt to anaylze this as I don't know very much about chess. 
> >However, I will note that Earle could have played '4. QxP' if he doesn't care
> >about winning and just wants to capture pieces. Maybe a real player can
comment
> >on the last two moves and the current position. We got a couple of comments
> >some months ago when we had a go round on what Coop's first two moves were.
> >
> >-Rich Haller           -I am not a real real chess player.
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >                       -I just play one in alt.tv.twin-peaks.
> >
> >

Just time to sneak in a hunch before tonight's show - I think Jones is, in
some devious way, setting Harry up for a frame.

Pardon me if this has been discussed already, but wasn't the guy who used to be
Squiggy on this show once before?
The way I remember it he was selling a wheelchair or something to Shelly and
Bobby for Leo.
Does anyone know anything else about the character?  Why's he back?

Sorry about that last message...anyway, I'm thinking of subscribing to
the Gazzette, but have heard some complaints about it--are the regular
subcribers getting the Feb or March just now???

In a previous article, rosimcg@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Rosi McGillivray) says:

> >Sorry folks, about my recent post where I told about Mount Shasta.
> >I know I did the >>> thingies wrong, but I AM only a neophyte in
> >the forest of you masters. I think, BTW, that it's remarkable to
> >find so many people (that's you guys) who automatically assume
> >common knowledge of Squiggy. I thought L&S was supposed to be sort
> >of sitcom never-never-land. (I watched it 'cause we only got one
> >channel at that time). Regardless, I think he is the perfect sleazeball
> >to help Ben Horne with his Ghostwood anti-project. And, of course,
> >the perfect weasle handler. Now it we can just ferret out all
> >those wood-be puns and get on to T-P!

Actually, I believe Laverne & Shirley was rated #1 at one point in its
run.  (I used to love that show...but when Shirley left, it just went downhill)

And, yes, Squiggy (or whatever name he uses) is obviously a sleazeball and
I've come to the conclusion that this whole pine weasel thing is just a ploy.

Keith


-- Zone motifs: Rats, peeing on lit trees, Catlicks, golf, aliases, dogs and squirrels, pink flamingos, donuts, hair color, abortion, mayors, gods and goddesses, ministers and mistresses, romance, Twin and Triple Peaks, sex, greetings and non-greetings, Penultimates, Zippy, lud, power tools, and raymond

If some kind person with a TP fortune cookie file mails me a copy of
it,

I will be grateful for the rest of my life (or until my HD dies, 
whatever comes first 

Thank you in advance.
 OR

***************************************************************************
YOU'RE GOING BACK TO MISSOULA, MONTANA! -Leland Palmer, doin' the BOB thing.
***************************************************************************

amazing episode!

coop: "fellas, coincidence and fate figure largely in our lives"

WE: "could it be? the symbol inverted?"

yahoo!

Thanks to Rich Haller for his help in trying to figure out exactly what's
going on.  As of tonight's episode, we're up to:

White-Windom EarleBlack-Dale Cooper
1. P-K4N-QB3
2. P-Q4P-K4
3. PxPP-QN3
4. N-KB3P-QR3

giving us:

BR .. BB BQ BK BB BN BR
.. .. BP BP .. BP BP BP
BP BP BN .. .. .. .. ..
.. .. .. .. WP .. .. ..
.. .. .. .. WP .. .. ..
.. .. .. .. .. WN .. ..
WP WP WP .. .. WP WP WP
WR WN WB WQ WK WB .. WR

Assuming Windom is going to continue this game, he has a number of moves which
merit investigation from either a chess or a ^Twin Peaks^ standpoint:

a) 5. B-KN5.  Pressing his advantage, and forcing an exchange of pawns after
5... P-B3 (which, however, gives Coop a tempo after 6. PxP PxP 7. B-R4), or 
bishops after 5... B-K2, or perhaps bishop for knight after 5... N-K2.  (Other 
moves for Cooper lose a piece with little compensation.)
b) 5. Q-Q5.  Putting pressure on Black's KBP.  The only immediate attack Black
has on the queen is 5... KN-K2 (or 5... QN-K2 allowing 6. QxR) with the 
interesting response 6. B-KN5, looking to 6... NxQ 7. BxQ (not Donna!) or 6...
P-B3 7. PxP  NxQ 8. PxP QxB 9. PxR(Q) or something equally zany (an interesting
thought! what happens if a piece is promoted?)
c) As suggested, if Windom Earle is tired of chess and just wants to kill 
people, there's always 5. BxP or 5. QxP.
d) The nasty series 5. N-Q4 NxP 6. Q-R5 may also be appealing.
e) There's always the move that's probably the best chess: 5. B-QB4.  Slow,
conservative, but guaranteed to win in the end, I imagine.  (Although, after,
say, 5... B-B4, 6. Q-Q5 looking towards perhaps 7. N-Q4 could be very good...)
f) An interesting line that just occured to me is 5. B-KN5 P-B3 6. PxP PxP 7.
N-Q4... well maybe not after 7... PxB 8. NxN PxN and then 9. Q-Q4 is no longer
possible, but the bloodbath can continue with 9. QxQ KxQ.

I wonder why I'm getting into the chess so much.  I guess it's the only 
concrete thing in this whole episode!  WHAT WAS THAT IN THE CAVE?

-=+=- Stephen Joseph Smith
      <sjsmith@cs.umd.edu>

In article <1991Apr5.030045.11389@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> rwyckoff@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (richard wyckoff) writes:
> >
> >amazing episode!
> >
> >coop: "fellas, coincidence and fate figure largely in our lives"
> >WE: "could it be? the symbol inverted?"

Gordon: BANZAI, BANZAI, BANZAI !!!
WE: Enter Gordon Cole.
Coop: Quaff in good health.

One problem though, why does Coop's drawing (and the one in the cave)
not fit the two tattoos???
The 2 peaks are fine, but he draws 3 diamonds which, if using the
inside of the peaks as 1 triangle, needs at least 5 other triangles
while the Major only had 3!! Where did the extras go??

-Matt
$$$$
$$$
$$
$

In article <9557@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) writes...

}} Sorry Matt, but Sanjiv got the spelling correct. It *is* "Windom" and not
}} "Wyndham". It says so in the episodes themselves.

} Yes, I know the "proper" spelling, but I'm a member of that small
} minority that believes that "Windom" is a stupid way to spell what
} should be, IOHO, "Wyndham".

Fine. If you want to spell it "Wyndham", go right ahead. But do not presume
to correct someone else when they spell it correctly.

Regardless, I think it's arrogant to decide that the spelling of someone's
name is "stupid". My given name is "Jerel", and while I'm not overly fond
of it, that *is* the way it's spelled, and I would find it offensive if
someone insisted on spelling it "Gerald" because they thought "Jerel" was
a "stupid" way to spell it.

Regardless of what you think of the relative merits of the two spellings,
the fact is that his name is spelled "Windom", and to deny that is hardly,
as your use of the acronym "IOHO" suggests, humble.

-- "If I haven't explained Jerry, it's because he really can't be explained." -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM or ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian

In article <1991Apr4.161108.29332@mack.uit.no>, vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen) writes...

} I've heard of a old film noire classic called Laura with several references
} to Twin Peaks:

} 1) The movie starts with the portrait of Laura, similar to the end of
} every TP episode.

Yes, there is a portrait of Laura Hunt in the film that is omnipresent.

} 2) The girl, Laura, was killed before the film started, and the film is
} mainly about finding the killer.

Without wanting to spoil the film for anyone, it's not quite this simple
and straightforward.

} 3) The main character, a detective, was called Waldo Lydecker.

Not true. Waldo Lydecker was a character in the film, but he wasn't the
detective. The detective's name was McPherson.

} 4) Leland Palmer was involved in some way, possibly as a character.

There wasn't any character in the film named Leland Palmer. The only other
character name in the film that crosses over into TWIN PEAKS is "Jacoby",
though in LAURA it was pronounced "JAK-oh-bee" rather than "ja-KOH-bee".
In LAURA, Jacoby was the name of the artist who painted the portrait.

-- "If I haven't explained Jerry, it's because he really can't be explained." -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM or ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian

In article <1991Apr4.124605.12247@pbs.org>, mpax@pbs.org (Cool Bean) writes...

} What ever happened to Dennis/Denise? Seems like the FBI has deserted
} Coop. No Albert. No Gordon. Just WE. I thought they were all interested
} in nabbing WE.

(1) Denise is in the Drug Enforcement Agency, *not* the FBI. She was called
in to investigate the claim by the Mountie mole that Coop was involved in
a drug scam. Denise's investigation and the whole incident at the cabin
with Jean Renault cleared Coop of this charge, so Denise's job was fini,
and she presumably went on to her next case.

(2) Albert is not an Agent at Large. He's a forensic pathologist. When he's
been around, it's because his area of knowledge was required. Otherwise,
there are no doubt other cases that he's working on.

(3) Gordon is the district chief. As such, he's got other cases to deal
with. Twin Peaks is *not* the only crime site around, after all. At any
rate, by now, you've noticed that he's shown up again to restore Coop's
status as an FBI Special Agent.

-- "If I haven't explained Jerry, it's because he really can't be explained." -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM or ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian

Okay...I just watched tonight's episode...and I dunno... Some stuff I liked,
a lot of other stuff I really did NOT like  (well, with a grain of salt: I
love TP, I just didn't like the show "succumbing" to regular TV at points
(peaks)).  (Oh, yeah, flame me...yeah, go ahead! ;-})




1) Did Harry *know* who T. Eckhardt's assistant was?  (From before...)  He
   kind of acted like he did/did not when he woke up -- maybe just the
   shock of it all made him act "bewildered" (he had this look on his face 
   like "You?!" -- but maybe it was all just surprise..?

2) I thought this was funny:  H.S. Truman hung-over as hell - and Gordon
   shows up yelling at the top of his (normal) (?) voice...

3) This was funny, too:  Truman's still dealing with the hang-over -- and
   Cooper makes a deliberate point re what's "best" for a hang-over -- of
   course, Truman: exit stage left (I'D THROW UP after *that* "cure"!)
   Equally funny: (later on) Gordon doing pretty much the same thing ("Raw
   beef..!)_, with the same reaction from Truman... ;-)

4) What was 'John' (new char, Billy Zane) fooling with when Audrey entered
   the room (room service)?  Looked like a big hot-dog steamer :-)  Anyone
   know?/Why?/Care?

5) Doc Hayward is hiding something!!!  We all kind of wondered when he was
   going to become "more important"/"critical to plot development", huh?  (Oh,
   YEAH, we did!)  All his denying/making up excuses on-the-fly w/ Donna pretty
   much show that there's more here....  It wouldn't surprise me at all if,
   as many others have suggested, Ben is, in fact, Donna's dad. But why (as
   far as plot goes???)?  

6) Why IS Donna's mom in a wheelchair?  (I know this has been asked earlier,
   esp. after last week, but I have not been able to read all the responses,
   so sorry if this old...!)

7) Something new:  GORDON CAN HEAR SHELLEY!  HE DOES NOT HAVE TO YELL ABOUT
   EVERYTHING!  (Though it was sort of amusing in the coffee-shop -- everyone
   heard him saying how much he liked her ;-})  So why does he hear Shelley,
   and no one else?  And, HE SEEMS TO BE VERY MUCH ATTRACTED TO HER!  MAYBE
   THAT WILL FIGURE IN TO SOMETHING (SOONER OR LATER!)

8) Frankly, I really did not see much "chemistry" at ALL between Coop and
   Annie at first (even most of tonight); maybe it's possible, but I still
   dunno...  Feels rather "forced" on us to me...?

9) As much as I Love D. Lynch (the Director, Author, Song-Writer, et al)
   I really do not like this "Gordon" personae...  No, I like "Gordon"
   fine, I just think Lynch is too ... "flat" (?) as an actor...  Amusing
   for a while; bugs me after it's going on...

10) Hmmm...  W. Earle was on Project Blue Book... (as was/is Mjr. Briggs...)

11) Coop putting the two "symbols" together... give me a break.  Hardly the
    configuration I'd settle on (in fact, I already had my whole theory of
    what these symbols meant, and I just *knew* it was gonna come true.. well,
    I'll tell ya 'bout 'em if you want...).  Did it look "rational/feasible/
    what-have-you" yo you???  He added symbols (we have never seen), and it
    sure wasn't a "logical" (IMHO) assimilation of two images, anyway... Such
    is life on TV...
   => On a similar point (same scenes), I did think that the cave Annie
      recognized ("Owl Cave") was a little too convenient..  I thought she
      was supposed to have been gone a long time -- how did she know about it?
   => Anyone notice that when Annie first comes up to Coop/Truman that Coop
      says he would like some coffee, he looks down at his cup, and it is
      upside-down?  He then *looks* at his cup, even moves away from it and 
      crosses his arms, then we get a quick shot of Annie pouring his coffee
      into  a right-side up cup...  In that *very* quick time between Coop
      looking at the cup, and Annie filling it, we can *hear* what (must be)
      a cup being turned over -- but I think that that sound was "put in"
      at edit time -- 'cause the characters were right back to where they
      were before/after all this (you following this?)... Just something
      I noticed....  But Annie DID turn Truman's over... (his CUP!)
   => I figured W. Earle would take Annie into account re Coop (since he was
      in the RR when Coop first met/fell in love with her), and use her in
      his "fight" against Coop.

   => One of the funniest things: Coop's *stupid* "penguin" joke -- it was
      not funny -- but Truman's reaction to the whole thing was ("When did
      you first fall in love with her..."):  "The Defense Rests...."

12) This entire "cave exploration" thing -- my, that was easy, huh?  A little
    *too* much so for me...and "campy".  I like TP b/c it is so weird, but
    actually "feasible*, 'cause the world IS weird!  But to go for this
    "Indiana Jones and ..." BS, with "magically moving stones, et al", uh,
    I'm annoyed....  

13) Why did Gordon go on so much about the gun he gave Cooper?

14) What's the point of the whole "james sends a postcard" thing?  Who the
    hell cares?

15) When Wyndam (?) Earle is in the cave (at the end of the show), he 
    approaches the "symbol" location from an entirely different direction
    from the one Coop, Truman, et al, took. Makes ya think he was hiding
    out all the while, while the others were there, but his reaction to 
    the "symbol"'s new "movement" was rather "surprised"...  He acted more
    like he stumbled across something (and that he, too, sought), and was
    eager/delighted to make it work in/for his purposes....

    BTW, I thought (again... I gotta quit doing that!) it was just *too*
    convenient that W.E. just happened to turn around, his flashlight just
    happened to land exactly on the "other" ("upside-down" owl (?)) symbol,
    so he just "knew" to turn the ("original") "rod"-thing from the 1st
    symbol-thing around.....  WHY would he do this???  (Except for the fact
    that it made a pretty decent "Oh, shit, NOW What?" ending to the show...
    My point being:  W.E. did not act (to me) like he knew *the answer(s)"
    either, he was searching 'em out, too....

    Yet, he MUST have known that Coop, et al, would be back, so turning the
    "Owl" rod thingy would tip 'em off that someone else knew, too....

16) Who was shooting the arrows at the neon-colored buffaloe cut-outs?  I
    really think it was Bobby (but WHY?!).  


I'm outta here...

--
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 IEX Corporation, Plano, Texas        | "He hit me!"
 ...!iex!perkins (or) perkins@iex.com | "Well, I'm sure he meant to do *that*."

In article <9031@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) writes:

   >what i want to know is, just WHAT was in the BOX she handed to CATHERINE ?

   Don't we all!



My two cents' worth:

     I think the box contains a gun, or some such murder implement, which
Jones is going to use to kill Harry and frame Catherine with.

Forgive me if this is too short and sketchy; it's late and I want to go to
sleep -- I've spent the last 45 minutes wondering why I wasn't able to follow
up before.

'nighty-night... |-)     [z  z  z zzzzzz...]

     byron

-----
byron c gobgo@ucsee.berkeley.edubyron@ocf.berkeley.edu
ab economics '92 ...!ucbvax!ucsee!bgo ...!ucbvax!ocf!byron

"dance dance dance dance dance to the radio..."joy division

In article <jms.3945@vanth.UUCP> jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:
> >In article <51114@apple.Apple.COM> larryy@Apple.COM (Larry Yaeger) writes:
>> >>
>> >>However, my wife, Levi, is pretty certain that she's heard of J.J.Wheeler out
>> >>here in the "real" world, but can't recall the context.  Anyone know who this
>> >>individual is?

Sounds like a Robber Baron to me.

J.J. == JR Ewing
Wheeler == Wheeler and Dealer

-Matt
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In reference to these same articles, there are two mistakes.

1.  In the picture mentioned on page 3D, the Caption reads:

CHESS MATES:  With Kevin Young, left, looking on at the Double R Diner,
Kyle MacLachlan bones up his chess game with Ace player Jack Nance and
the sheriff, Michael Ontkean.

BUT

The picture shows Toad, Cooper, Doc Heyward and Harry.

2. In Matt Roush's TV Review, for 4/28  see if YOU can figure out what
is wrong here:

".....Guest director tonight is James Foley (After Dark, My Sweet), who
takes well to the daffy drill, pulling off a bizarre set-piece of mayhem
at a Miss Twin Peaks pageant and sustaining the creepy-kooky tone."  

I get the feeling Mr. Roush is not a fan, and didn't really watch the
show with much interest.

my $0.02:  A National Newspaper should have a better proofreading staff,
especially for captions.

sharon

In a previous article, c60b-1eb@web-1c.berkeley.edu (Ivan K Choi) says:

> >I am a serious TP fan (well, at least I consider I am) and I hate network
> >interruptions like almost all other TV viewers, but come on, it's a TV SHOW!!!
> >3 innocent people died!!!  The other three of course deserve worse punishment
> >than death, if that's possible--don't give me that "innocent until proven
> >guilty" crap...If I were you, I'll be upset, not because of the interruption,
> >but because you are an insensitive person who would say that this was
> >"pointless."
> >
Sure, it's serious.  But, do you think the station showed the news story
because they 'cared' or because they thought it was 'sensational' and
'quality' news that might attract and make viewers interested?  Considering
TP's poor ratings, it's quite possible that they thought this would increase
viewership for a certain amount of time.  Had it been during Cheers, I wonder
if an NBC affiliate would have carried the news story?  I also notice that
sports *never* seems to be pre-empted, which really irritates me.  So, I have
to agree with the original person.  This pre-emption (while I did not 
experience it) was unnecessary.  It could have waited until the news or 
in between shows.  Besides, what good or useful purpose did it serve to
show it right when it was shown?  Most likely, none.

Keith
-- Zone motifs: Rats, peeing on lit trees, Catlicks, golf, aliases, dogs and squirrels, pink flamingos, donuts, hair color, abortion, mayors, gods and goddesses, ministers and mistresses, romance, Twin and Triple Peaks, sex, greetings and non-greetings, Penultimates, Zippy, lud, power tools, and raymond

I was really bored by last night's show, and I've been a fan of Twin
Peaks from the beginning; I've seen every show.  When Twin Peaks first
came out, someone experienced in television asked "How long will it be
before `Twin Peaks' becomes `Two Breasts'?"  Well, I think it's happened
now.  The images from the first year and part of this one still haunt
me: a dead body, wrapped in plastic; Laura's eye in the video camera;
the pine trees in the wind; "SOMEBODY put a FISH in the PERcolator; the
Man From Another Place; Maddie's murder.  But lately the show has been
so plain and so accepting of TV cliches that I wish it would be put out
of its misery at the end of this year.  Damn it, this show was supposed
to play with TV cliches and do something original, not be overwhelmed by
them!  Last night, the only odd moment was Johnny Horne's Indian cries
during Ben and Audrey's conversation, and even that was set up in a
standard manner -- compare it with Lynch's use of the bouncing balls
during the One Armed Man's inspection of people at the Great Northern. 
(The week before, the only original idea was the sustained scream at the
end of the fashion show.)  The one thing that could've saved last
night's show was the trademark closing scene, where we expect something
unexpected to happen; instead, we have Windom Earle wandering into the
cave, turning that rod that Cooper exposed and then walked away from,
and then a really fake-looking earthquake, more or less, starts
happening.  The endings to "Lost in Space" were about as original.

Please, Bob Iger -- put this show out of its misery.  Let us have our
memories of the early shows, and don't overwhelm us with typical TV
dreck.

-- J

i have twice been selected as a nielson family (strange since it is only my
husband and myself) i do not know why i was chosen, maybe it has something to do with my zip code. they give you a nice, crisp dollar bill for participating, it
is a pain, you have to record in half hour blocks what you are watching. you
hesitate to channel hop because you do not want to screw up your viewing diary. also , you feel strange having someone know what you officially watch, you
almost want to throw in a lot of washington week in review so you do not come across as some kind of idiot.  i would volunteer now, if only to help tp remain on the air, otherwise we only watch sports and rented movies.

In article <1991Apr4.231358.13305@agate.berkeley.edu>, c60b-1eb@web-2b.berkeley.edu (Ivan K Choi) writes:
> > Sorry about that last message...anyway, I'm thinking of subscribing to
> > the Gazzette, but have heard some complaints about it--are the regular
> > subcribers getting the Feb or March just now???

Just got February this week and we signed up in January.  And don't 
expect the coffee mug or your address anytime real soon.

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

It was a coo-ill episode.  I thought it would have been great to have
either BOB or Laura peering out of the hole in owl cave.  But it was
rather spooky anyway.

Next week looks quite promising.  As it was, we were all very well
amused this week.

I was reading the post about what the TV Guide says will happen next
week.  Who is Lana?

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

In article <1991Apr1.192622.15126@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely) writes:
>> >>If you are still interested (and hence, still reading), we have
>> >>encountered some very creative methods for attempting suicides.
> >
>> >>Smashing self in head with hammer.
> >        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >Did anyone else cringe when they read that???

I have seen photos of people who have actually commited suicide by smashing
themselves on the top of the head with an ax. There were MANY shallow cuts
across the top of the head indicating multiple blows. Its hard enough to
imagine hitting yourself once with an ax, but many many times is unthinkable.
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 First of all, what an episode! (4/4/91) IMHO, the best one since end of the
WKLP storyline. I next week will be a good test of how much they've changed
their approach to the show. By that I mean, in the past when they've made a
startling revelation and our heroes were left in a precarious position, we
wouldn't see that storyline again for another 3-4 weeks. Now, we have
the boys going back to Owl Cave (why the heck did they leave?). So, will
they return to the Cave next week, or will we have to wait till the season
finale to discover what is in the cave? I'll let everyone else bring the
numerous classic lines in last night's episode, but let me make a prediction
about the chess game.

  Here are the moves of the chess game so far, as near as I can tell.
  
        Windom                         Coop
  1.    P-K4                            P-K4
  2.    P-Q4                            N-QB3
  3.    PxP                             P-QN3
  4.    N-KB3                           P-QR3
  
  Now, I think Windom's next move will be QB-KN5. This is not the best
move from a fundamentals standpoint, but it attacks the Black Queen, and
it forces an exchange. Black has to block, preferably with a pawn, because
if someone dies every time a black piece is taken, the presumably a pawn
dying is not as drastic as a bishop or knight dying. 
  The only thing is, if Coop and Windom have a confrontation in the season
finale, that's only four episodes from now, or four moves for each player.
That's hardly enough time to force this game to a shattering conclusion.
We shall see. I only hope the remaining episodes are as good.

Jeff Kouba
Dept. of Physics and Astronomy
University of Iowa
INET: jak@ceres.physics.uiowa.edu

> >One problem though, why does Coop's drawing (and the one in the cave)
> >not fit the two tattoos???
> >The 2 peaks are fine, but he draws 3 diamonds which, if using the
> >inside of the peaks as 1 triangle, needs at least 5 other triangles
> >while the Major only had 3!! Where did the extras go??

I had trouble with this one too, until i found out that WE had been 
in on the UFO project.  It's quite possible that he has a tattoo
that contains part of the symbol.  None of them have it completely.
I think that Coop was just doodling, and added a few lines.  Notice
that the owl that Coop uncovered bears a similarity to the tattoos -
it's basically twin peaks with a diamond between them.

Anyone notice that when the two tattoos originally appear,  Major
Briggs' marks are TRIANGLES, but when Coop puts them together, they
are DIAMONDS?  You could say that maybe by putting the triangles
back to back they form diamonds, but I'm inclined to think this was
a major goof (pun intended).

Brian Wood   "I've been ready for the realities of space flight since
              I was 9 years old."

sw2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sharon Lee West) writes:

!In reference to these same articles, there are two mistakes.
!1.  In the picture mentioned on page 3D, the Caption reads:

!CHESS MATES:  With Kevin Young, left, looking on at the Double R Diner,
!Kyle MacLachlan bones up his chess game with Ace player Jack Nance and
!the sheriff, Michael Ontkean.

Can someone get me a Xerox of this picture?

BBC

Help!

Broadcast of Twin Peaks (April 4) in the Sacramento area
was interrupted several times by live coverage of the hostage
situation and shootout at The Good Guys.  We're not sure
what we missed, but I think it would have included important
happenings in Owl Cave.

My wife and I are heading to Snowbird tomorrow for a ski week --
Can anyone in Salt Lake City area volunteer a video tape?
We're willing to bring coffee & donuts, or whatever seems
appropriate compensation, but we're desperate to see the
whole uninterrupted episode before next Thursday.

If anyone can help out, please contact me or leave a
message at...

    Today (Friday), up to mid-afternoon:
email address below (might not get here in time)
(916) 928-6268My extension at Unify Corp.
    Today, evening:
(916) 933-5826
    Beginning Saturday evening:
(801) 742-2222Snowbird
Ext. 1016  Our room
Ext. 1000  Iron Blosam Lodge front desk


------------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@Unify.com

In article <1991Apr5.103718.12255@pbs.org> mpax@pbs.org (Cool Bean) writes:
> >
> >I was reading the post about what the TV Guide says will happen next
> >week.  Who is Lana?
        ^^^^^^^^^^^

Actually this is a typo.
Half the M was
accidentally cut off
in the final printing.

It should read "Lama."

SPOILERS FOR 4/11 and 4/18 FOLLOW:


Now, this may sound corny,
but actually the Dali Lama
will appear on Twin Peaks
owl in tow.

It seems that the two markings
were a test of some sort
supposedly placed in this cave 
by the spirit of the Dali Lama
over 10,000 years ago and the
one who found the symbols
and soved the quest was supposed
to become the immortal home of
the Dali Lama's soul, never
dying.

Now since Cooper found it,
Andy "figured out" how to open it,
and Windom completed it,
there should be a humungous
row about the whole mess back
at the Circle of Elders in
Shangrila (sp).

-Matt
////
///
//
/

In article <29834@cs.yale.edu> long-morrow@CS.Yale.EDU (H. Morrow Long) writes:
> >
> >In article <1794@bbxsda.UUCP>, scott@bbxsda.UUCP (Scott Amspoker) writes:
-|> In article <3066@kluge.fiu.edu> ii7gjg0b@serss0.fiu.edu (Jim Stafford) writes:
-|> >Where can I get these cards?  Are they normally distributed or do I need to 
-|> >order them?  They'd fit in real nice with my Outer Limits and Munsters cards!
-|> 
-|> Wow, you have Outer Limits cards!  Are these from 28-or-so years ago? 
-|> (Where the stories on the back of the cards had no resemblence to the
-|> actual episodes they depicted).  I use to have the whole set.
-
-
-What does the gum taste like after 28-or-so years ago?
- <<.sig deleted>>

Most of it was long ago converted into cavities, but if you're really serious
about it, I'll give you the address of my old elementary school and you can
scarf some right off the underside of my old desk. (you can't miss it..it has
three triangles carved in it...)

jimbo

>> >>#>>A question about the Log Lady - Is she natural or base 10?
>> >>#>My guess is that she's base tree...
>> >>#
>> >># Or Oaktal.
>> >>
>> >>A HEX on you for these jokes!
> >
> >We've all BIN putting up with this long enough.
> >

I just wonder what her LOGNAME is! (Don't SLASH me, now! This
thread should end with a BANG!)

-Lynn ;-D
-- Lynn Schneider lzs@indetech.com {sun,sharkey,pacbell}!indetech!lzs Fremont, CA

I really enjoyed the latest episode, taken all in all.
Parts of it pissed me off.  I was all set to enjoy the usual 
slam bang ending and instead we get that succubus creature
attacking/seducing Truman.  I don't even want to know why she
would bother and I'm sick to death of Lynch's femme fatales!
 
On the other hand, there was something so sweet about Cooper's
scene's with Annie, that made me laugh out loud. 
 
Parts of it remind me of a Hardy Boy adventure story
but other parts capture my imagination. I want to know, for instance,
if the FBI boss is experiencing physical changes in his ears or
if his deafness is psychosomatic. Maybe he just doesn't want to
hear anything but Shelley's voice. Could be the start of a romance.
He'd be quite a change after Leo! 
 
The Nadine sub-plot is starting to interest me again. 
Is she finally starting to recover?  Will it affect her eyesight?
 
ann h.

rwyckoff@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (richard wyckoff) writes:


> >amazing episode!

> >coop: "fellas, coincidence and fate figure largely in our lives"

> >WE: "could it be? the symbol inverted?"

> >yahoo!

Ugh, that show was great up until that cave scene.  What an amazing bunch of
corn that setup is.  TP is definately not the same show anymore.
-- - Clint cdimick@javelin.sim.es.com BTW - I speak for myself, not my employer, next-door neighbor, or pet Poopie.

In article <1991Apr5.140927.8630@cs.cmu.edu> webb@CS.CMU.EDU (Jon Webb) writes:
> >I was really bored by last night's show...
...
Extended criticism exised
...
> >(The week before, the only original idea was the sustained scream at the
> >end of the fashion show.)  The one thing that could've saved last
> >night's show was the trademark closing scene, where we expect something
> >unexpected to happen; instead, we have Windom Earle wandering into the
> >cave, turning that rod that Cooper exposed and then walked away from,
> >and then a really fake-looking earthquake, more or less, starts
> >happening.  The endings to "Lost in Space" were about as original.
> >-- J

I think it's great that the TP special effects wizards cooked up some
realistic cave scenes to rival the original Star Trek, Lost in Space,
and Land of the Lost. :>)


-----------------------------------Tim Whalen-----------------------------------

"Whoo-oop!  I'm the old original iron-jawed, brass-mounted, copper-bellied
corpse-maker from the wilds of Arkansaw!  Look at me!  I'm the man they call
Sudden Death and General Desolation!  Sired by a hurricane, dam'd by an
earthquake, half-brother to the cholera, nearly related to the small pox on
my mother's side!  Look at me!  I take nineteen alligators and a bar'l of
whisky for breakfast when I'm in robust health, and a bushel of rattlesnakes
and a dead body when I'm ailing!  I split the everlasting rocks with my glance,
and I squench the thunder when I speak!  Whoo-oop!  Stand back and give me room
according to my strength!  Blood's my natural drink, and the wails of the dying
is music to my ear!  Cast your eye on me, gentlemen!--and lay low and hold your
breath, for I'm 'bout to turn myself loose!" - Mark Twain

-----------------------------whalen@lipari.usc.edu------------------------------

In article <61873@masscomp.westford.ccur.com> mark@calvin.westford.ccur.com (Mark Thompson) writes:
> >In article <1991Apr1.192622.15126@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely) writes:
>>> >>>If you are still interested (and hence, still reading), we have
>>> >>>encountered some very creative methods for attempting suicides.
> >
> >I have seen photos of people who have actually commited suicide by smashing
> >themselves on the top of the head with an ax. There were MANY shallow cuts
> >across the top of the head indicating multiple blows. Its hard enough to
> >imagine hitting yourself once with an ax, but many many times is unthinkable.


I believe that just recently a woman somewhere on the
East coast succeeded in decapitating herself with
a chain saw.  I don't know how big or strong she was
but that's gotta take the cake as far as impossible
methods of suicide go.


--
|  Erin K. Jacobs (TiffanyTwisted)    | "He was a hairy bear, he was a scary  |
|  ejacobs@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu       |  bear, we beat a hasty retreat from   |
|  IOWA: You can check out any time   |  his lair -- and then described him   |
|  you like but you can never leave   |  with adjectives!"  -Schoolhouse Rock |

AGENT COOPER: "March 28, Thursday night.  Diane, I want to
bring you up to speed on a few recent developments.  Nadine
Hurley, 35 years old, persists in the belief that she is a
high school girl.  She has apparently fallen in love with
Mike Nelson, high school varsity star...Word has it that
Bobby Briggs is shacked up with Shelley the waitress.
Shelley's husband Leo has awakened from his coma, and is
somewhere in the woods...Ben Horne has suddenly become an
enviromentalist, and enlisted the aid of trusted friend John
Justice Wheeler to help him save the pine weasel...As for
me, I find myself suffused with a vague sense of
contentment, a premonition of happiness.  I hope I will be
ready when it comes...Meanwhile, there's Windham Earle, my
former partner.  Windham continues to play his deadly game
of chess.  DEADLY, Diane, because every time he removes a
piece from the board, Earle takes a human life.  I have
enlisted the aid of chess champion Pete Martell, in hopes of
formulating a stalemate game.  In the meantime, I can only
wait for Earle's next move...Major Briggs has returned from
his disappearance in the woods, but remembers nothing.  He
cannot explain the mysterious tattoo on his neck...Diane,
Josie Packard is dead, possibly from fear.  And while I am
absolutely certain that she tried to take my life, I feel
both sadness and even sympathy.  Sheriff Truman is suffering
miserably as a result.  When Josie died, I saw a vision
revealing BOB, and the midget from my dream.  Windham Earle,
BOB, the midget.  Is there a connection Diane?  Do these
events fortell BOB's return?  I hope not, for all our
sakes."
--
Jeff "Koganuts" Koga              1) "The 'Star Wars' Trilogy" by John Williams
Internet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu        2)"Dances with Wolves" by John Barry
Bitnet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.bitnet          3) "Star Trek II:TWoK" by James Horner
Recommended CDs:      4) "Soundtrack from '^Twin Peaks^'" by Angelo Baladamenti

Well, half-sisters anyway.

It seems that Eileen Hayward and lecherous Ben Horne had something
going "20 years" ago.  I'd say that's about right for Donna's age --
isn't she 18?  Also, didn't Doc Hayward look like he was trying to
protect her from the truth?

It sorta adds a new dimension to the "Twin" theme.

--
bvickers@ics.uci.edu | "Space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed
brett@ucippro.bitnet |  to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind
                     |  union of the two will preserve an independent
                     |  reality."  - Albert Einstein

In a previous article, jak@ceres.physics.uiowa.edu () says:

> >
> > First of all, what an episode! (4/4/91) IMHO, the best one since end of the
> >WKLP storyline. 

I agree! Gordon Cole is becoming one of my favorite characters; the scene
with Shelley (who has had some of the best lines the last couple weeks) in 
the diner was a scream. (no pun intended) I especially liked watching Gordon
and Cooper both flirting at the same time in their own contrasting styles.
I also like how they're developing Annie's character; they didn't really
show much of her personality last week, but this week she really did appear
to be someone who would be compatible with Cooper.

I also liked the scene with Audrey and Ben. It was both touching and
funny and also believable. Some people have said they miss the old
Audrey, but I really like how her character's developed. She's still sharp 
and she still has a "plan", but she seems more polished and sure about how 
to accomplish her goals. I think you can attribute the fact that she's
"nicer" to people than at the beginning of the series to her experience
at One Eyed Jacks and her interaction with Cooper. (I know he could
talk me into going straight :) )

Last night's show made me realize that I'll really miss this show when
it's gone. I guess we can always hope for another network to pick it up.
-- -------------------------------------------- Denise M. Fischer (dmf2@po.cwru.edu) Network Information Coordinator, INS Case Western Reserve University

The last time we saw Shelly at home, she was curled up in the corner, cowering
from the newly-awakened Leo. Recently, however, she's the vision of perkiness
behind the counter at the Double R, and doesn't seem to be too concerned about
the prospect of Leo showing up. So what gives? Is she staying at the Twin Peaks
battered women's shelter (goodness knows they could use one), or has she 
replaced the plastic sheathing at home with Kevlar?

Matt Hefferman
BBN Systems and Technologies
hefferman@bbn.com

P.S. Someone mentioned that David Warner is in the new Ninja Turtles movie.
     But has anyone noticed the person credited as Director of Photography?

bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:

> >Well, half-sisters anyway.

> >It seems that Eileen Hayward and lecherous Ben Horne had something
> >going "20 years" ago.  I'd say that's about right for Donna's age --
> >isn't she 18?  Also, didn't Doc Hayward look like he was trying to
> >protect her from the truth?

> >It sorta adds a new dimension to the "Twin" theme.

> >--
> >bvickers@ics.uci.edu | "Space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed
> >brett@ucippro.bitnet |  to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind
> >                     |  union of the two will preserve an independent
> >                     |  reality."  - Albert Einstein

Soap opera schlock plotting, if you ask me.  I hope that this particular 
subplot dies fast...


-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sanjiv Sarwate sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu "Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a .sig file out of my hat!"

bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
>> >>It seems that Eileen Hayward and lecherous Ben Horne had something
>> >>going "20 years" ago.  I'd say that's about right for Donna's age --
>> >>isn't she 18?  Also, didn't Doc Hayward look like he was trying to
>> >>protect her from the truth?

In article <1991Apr5.190815.23174@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes:
> >Soap opera schlock plotting, if you ask me.  I hope that this particular 
> >subplot dies fast...

I think it's gonna get worse for you, Sanjiv.  I think Ben Horne is Laura
Palmer's father (and that therefore they had an incestuous relationship)
as well.  No really strong evidence yet, but there are hints: Ben buying
a pony for 12 year old Laura, Sarah seeing Laura's face in Donna (who would
also be her half-sister), etc.

J. J. Wheeler told Ben to tell the "hardest truth first", and Ben seemed
to listen.  That means, almost certainly, that he's going to tell a hard
truth next episode.  Now, he could tell something that we (the audience)
already know, but that would be boring.  He's going to drop a bombshell
(it may be completely different than my little theory, though).

Get it: Twin Peaks is a soap opera and always has been, straight from the
pilot.  Lynch+Frost sold it as a soap before the first episode was ever made.

--
Joe Buck
jbuck@janus.berkeley.edu {uunet,ucbvax}!janus.berkeley.edu!jbuck

In article <27FCC0B5.23618@ics.uci.edu>, bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu
(Brett J. Vickers) writes:

> > It seems that Eileen Hayward and lecherous Ben Horne had something
> > going "20 years" ago.  I'd say that's about right for Donna's age --
> > isn't she 18?  Also, didn't Doc Hayward look like he was trying to
> > protect her from the truth?

  Right at the moment when Audrey and Donna were going to spy on their
  father/mother, good old ABC cut into a Special News Bulletin for a
  couple of minutes.  When TP came back, Coop was in the hallway.

  Anybody out there who would like to enlighten us with what happened
  during those 2 minutes?

  Thanks....

   Tjet


==============================================================================
Tjet Sun, Institute for Astronomy, 2680 Woodlawn Drive, Honolulu, Hawaii 96822
Internet: tjet@upas.ifa.hawaii.edu                   Bitnet: tjet@uhifa.bitnet
==============================================================================

SPOILERS


Wow. This was, as others have said, the best episode in a long time--
perhaps since the end of the WKLP storyline. Much better than last
week's disappointing return.

random thoughts:

* harry to cooper: "So, how long you been in love with her?" I KNEW he was
  going to say this. The entire scene in the RR was incredible. Lynch was
  hilarious, as usual.

* owl: I liked the owl effect a lot. It was-- um-- strange. That ain't no
  NORMAL owl.

* petroglyph. windom. owls. Why do I think we're getting to that time,
  when all hell breaks loose and the evil genius of windom is linked to the
  sheer evil power of BOB?

* Windom worked with project blue book? Finally, the connection to briggs
  is made. The "space signals" start to fit back in.

God, this show is evil. It makes me angry one week and then impresses the
hell out of me the next. Since it's not long for this world, I'll enjoy it.
Shows like this don't come around very often.

(But I hope they bring it back in some form long enough to resolve the
plots. Cross fingers-- it's not very likely.)

-jason


-- Jason Snell / jsnell@ucsd.edu / University of California, San Diego "Expectations only mean you really think you know what's coming next, and you don't." -- Bob Mould

In article <1991Apr5.140019.7198@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely) writes:
> >Sure, it's serious.  But, do you think the station showed the news story
> >because they 'cared' or because they thought it was 'sensational' and
> >'quality' news that might attract and make viewers interested?  Considering
> >TP's poor ratings, it's quite possible that they thought this would increase
> >viewership for a certain amount of time.  Had it been during Cheers, I wonder
> >if an NBC affiliate would have carried the news story?  I also notice that
> >sports *never* seems to be pre-empted, which really irritates me.  So, I have
> >to agree with the original person.  This pre-emption (while I did not 
> >experience it) was unnecessary.  It could have waited until the news or 
> >in between shows.  Besides, what good or useful purpose did it serve to
> >show it right when it was shown?  Most likely, none.

    I completely disagree on this one; I don't think Twin Peaks was 
interrupted because of its poor ratings.  I think it was interrupted 
because the hostage situation was an immediate and important occurrence,
and many people (including myself) were anxious to find out what would
happen.  Now, I was just as upset as the next guy about Twin Peaks being
interrupted, and now my tape collection is incomplete, but I understand
WHY it happened, and I'm not about to go off half-cocked and say that my
viewing of the episode is more important than 3 people's lives (I'm not
including the hostage-takers).
   And, by the way, Cheers WAS interrupted.  The entire ending was lost.
So this is more proof that it had nothing to do with Twin Peaks. It's just
news.

Andy Bates.

In a previous article, bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) says:

> >Well, half-sisters anyway.
> >
> >It seems that Eileen Hayward and lecherous Ben Horne had something
> >going "20 years" ago.  I'd say that's about right for Donna's age --
> >isn't she 18?  Also, didn't Doc Hayward look like he was trying to
> >protect her from the truth?
> >
> >It sorta adds a new dimension to the "Twin" theme.
> >
Yeppers.  I also remember Eileen Hayward telling Ben Horne to, "Stay away from
her."  One can naturally assume that 'her' is in reference to Donna.

Keith
-- Zone motifs: Rats, peeing on lit trees, Catlicks, golf, aliases, dogs and squirrels, pink flamingos, donuts, hair color, abortion, mayors, gods and goddesses, ministers and mistresses, romance, Twin and Triple Peaks, sex, greetings and non-greetings, Penultimates, Zippy, lud, power tools, and raymond

jbuck@janus.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Buck) writes:

> >bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
>>> >>>It seems that Eileen Hayward and lecherous Ben Horne had something
>>> >>>going "20 years" ago.  I'd say that's about right for Donna's age --
>>> >>>isn't she 18?  Also, didn't Doc Hayward look like he was trying to
>>> >>>protect her from the truth?

> >In article <1991Apr5.190815.23174@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes:
>> >>Soap opera schlock plotting, if you ask me.  I hope that this particular 
>> >>subplot dies fast...

> >I think it's gonna get worse for you, Sanjiv.  I think Ben Horne is Laura
> >Palmer's father (and that therefore they had an incestuous relationship)
> >as well.  No really strong evidence yet, but there are hints: Ben buying
> >a pony for 12 year old Laura, Sarah seeing Laura's face in Donna (who would
> >also be her half-sister), etc.

> >J. J. Wheeler told Ben to tell the "hardest truth first", and Ben seemed
> >to listen.  That means, almost certainly, that he's going to tell a hard
> >truth next episode.  Now, he could tell something that we (the audience)
> >already know, but that would be boring.  He's going to drop a bombshell
> >(it may be completely different than my little theory, though).

> >Get it: Twin Peaks is a soap opera and always has been, straight from the
> >pilot.  Lynch+Frost sold it as a soap before the first episode was ever made.


Sorry that I hold TP to a slightly higher standard than Dallas.  Besides, the
only way Ben could be Laura's father would be if Laura didn't know.  Remember?
"My father killed me."  

It may be a soap, but that doesn't mean it has to make use of all of the soap
cliches.



-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sanjiv Sarwate sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu "Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a .sig file out of my hat!"

There has been an assumption ('scuse me if this has already been 
addressed) that Annie was a nun.  We don't know that, we only know
that she has been in a convent for a while.  Not everyone who lives/
stays in a convent is a nun.

In article <3189@kluge.fiu.edu>, ii7gjg0b@serss0.fiu.edu (Jim Stafford) writes:
> >In article <29834@cs.yale.edu> long-morrow@CS.Yale.EDU (H. Morrow Long) writes:
>> >>
>> >>In article <1794@bbxsda.UUCP>, scott@bbxsda.UUCP (Scott Amspoker) writes:
> >-|> In article <3066@kluge.fiu.edu> ii7gjg0b@serss0.fiu.edu (Jim Stafford) writes:
> >-|> >Where can I get these cards?  Are they normally distributed or do I need to 
> >-|> >order them?  They'd fit in real nice with my Outer Limits and Munsters cards!
> >-
> >-What does the gum taste like after 28-or-so years ago?

I don't know about Outer Limit cards gum but I have a whole box of unopened
Dune cards.  I'm sure that that gum is pretty tastey already.  Some one
told me that the gum and wax can hurt the cards.  Can any one support this.
I'd hate to ruin a perfectly good picture of KMcL.

Sharpie

The DALI Lama?  Lynch has been called a surrealist, but this is ridiculous!

MVB
"A man came up to me and said, 'I'd like to change your mind by hitting it 
with a rock,' he said, 'though I am not unkind.' "--TMBG
Disclaimer:  Not my planet, Monkeyboy!

ieevlsi2@khan.cs.montana.edu (VLSI) writes:

> >There has been an assumption ('scuse me if this has already been 
> >addressed) that Annie was a nun.  We don't know that, we only know
> >that she has been in a convent for a while.  Not everyone who lives/
> >stays in a convent is a nun.

I believe she said "one of the other sisters used to put rum in her coffee."


-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sanjiv Sarwate sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu "Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a .sig file out of my hat!"

Has anyone else noted a striking resemblance between the actor who 
plays Wheeler and the young Richard Beymer (Ben Horne)?  When Jack 
put on his glasses and looked thoughtfully after Audrey as she 
left the room, I got quite the Electral frisson. 

--Barbara

Did anyone else notice that we got the old opening sequence back with
the 4/4 episode?  It started out with the little birdy perched on a
branch, and then it went to a shot of the sawmill where the blades were
being sharpened.

I'm pleased to see it come back.

--
bvickers@ics.uci.edu | "Space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed
brett@ucippro.bitnet |  to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind
                     |  union of the two will preserve an independent
                     |  reality."  - Albert Einstein

In article <1991Apr5.190815.23174@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes:
> >bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
> >
>> >>It seems that Eileen Hayward and lecherous Ben Horne had something
>> >>going "20 years" ago.

> >Soap opera schlock plotting, if you ask me.  I hope that this particular 
> >subplot dies fast...
> >     Sanjiv Sarwate


I quite agree.  I'd rather speculate that 20 years ago something 
happened in Twin Peaks that involved all the parents of all our 
"juveniles" -- Eileen and Doc Hayward, Ben Horne and his wife,  
perhaps James' mother (aha! that's why she "took to drink" -- 
couldn't stand the guilt); maybe Catherine Packard Martell and 
Pete Martell?  

Maybe there's some Deep Dark Secret that concerns something they 
did when they were about the ages of their own children, or some 
crime that they covered up.  Maybe it has something to do with 
the Evil in the woods.  Oh, and I'd bet that Margaret the Log 
Lady would have been involved, too. 

Bobby's parents were probably *not* involved, as it seems the 
Briggs are relatively new to Twin Peaks.  Or am I mistaken about 
that?  Has it ever been established how long they've been in 
town? 

--Barbara

In article <1991Apr2.210312.3952@rock.concert.net> evans@jazz.concert.net (Larry Evans) writes:
> >LEO storyline:
> >
> >Another idea, Windom Earle chooses Shelly has his next victim and Leo
> >saves her.  Of course, Leo will have to die while saving her or lives,
> >becomes a hero, then a Born Again Christian and elected to become the
> >next Twin Peaks' mayor.

I like it!

In article <27FCC0B5.23618@ics.uci.edu> bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
> >It seems that Eileen Hayward and lecherous Ben Horne had something
> >going "20 years" ago.  I'd say that's about right for Donna's age --
> >isn't she 18?  Also, didn't Doc Hayward look like he was trying to
> >protect her from the truth?

That's the impression I got too.

-- Scott Amspoker | Touch the peripheral convex of every Basis International, Albuquerque, NM | kind, then various kinds of blaming (505) 345-5232 | sound can be sent forth. unmvax.cs.unm.edu!bbx!bbxsda!scott | - Instructions for a little box that | blurts out obscenities.

C'mon, Peaks-Freaks!  What happened to the instant reviews of the
episodes five minutes after they appeared on TV?  It seems like people have
lost interest here.

Anyway, 4/4's episode was a return to greatness for the show.  The opening
scene with Eckhart's hit lady strangling Truman was gripping.  I actually
thought he *wasn't* going to make it there, for a few seconds.  I thought, well,
they might be cancelling the show, so this might be it for Truman!  But I'm
glad he survived the attack.

Questions on the attack:  What was it that the lady put on Truman's lips?
Perfume?  I'm going to have to go back and watch this again more closely.
Also, I guess it's just for dramatic effect, but she certainly had plenty of
safer ways to kill Truman than with the garotte.  I was expecting the garotte
to be wire-thin and sharp enough to cut through the skin.

Nice romantic interplay between Cooper and the waitress, and Audrey and
JJ.  I was disappointed to see the postcard from James, though--I hoped that
he was gone for good!  I almost get sick when I hear that guitar playing that
has become his theme song.

I've had a sneaking suspicion about the upcoming Miss Twin Peaks event and
Wyndham Earle's plans.  I suspect that none of the 3 popular actresses (Audrey,
Shelley, or Donna) will die, but that instead, Cooper's new love interest will die
because of WE.

The scenes in OWL CAVE were great.  I assuming that was BOB in his owl
form.  I guess it was a lucky accident that WE saw the inverted sign and turned
the bar upside down.  It sure does look like something is emerging out of that
wall now, doesn't it?  I just wonder how this ties into the Black Lodge.

Can't wait for next week!

-- Richard Guion ---------------------------- "This product has | rguion@ralph.mips.COM | the official NINTENDO seal of ---------------------------- disapproval."

>> >>There has been an assumption ('scuse me if this has already been 
>> >>addressed) that Annie was a nun.  We don't know that, we only know
> >
> >I believe she said "one of the other sisters used to put rum in her coffee."

Nope.  She says, "the sisters used to put rum in their tea."

In article <1991Apr5.210142.21264@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes:

> >ieevlsi2@khan.cs.montana.edu (VLSI) writes:
>> >>There has been an assumption ('scuse me if this has already been 
>> >>addressed) that Annie was a nun.  We don't know that, we only know
>> >>that she has been in a convent for a while.  Not everyone who lives/
>> >>stays in a convent is a nun.
> >
> >I believe she said "one of the other sisters used to put rum in her coffee."

I heard that as "one of the sisters used to put rum in her tea."
(Still ambiguous about whether Annie was a nun.)  Let's go home and
check our tapes and meet back here tomorrow.

I'm inclined to think she wasn't a nun (nor even, necessarily, a
neophyte).  Convents and monasteries don't like to accept people who
are trying to solve their problems by running away from the world
(they prefer people who are "truly" seeking God, whatever that means).
Annie fits this category since she entered the convent after "failing"
and attempting suicide.

-- Janet Swisher Internet: swsh@midway.uchicago.eduUniversity of Chicago Phone: (312) 702-7608 Academic and Public Computing P-mail: 1155 E. 60th St. Chicago IL 60637, USA

In article <27FCEA5A.20055@ics.uci.edu> bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:

> >Did anyone else notice that we got the old opening sequence back with
> >the 4/4 episode?  It started out with the little birdy perched on a
> >branch, and then it went to a shot of the sawmill where the blades were
> >being sharpened.

> >I'm pleased to see it come back.

Sorry to burst your bubble, so to speak, but the
longest opening sequences were in the pilot (Episode
1000) and in the first episode of the second season
(Episode 2001).  They showed a lot more of the
blades being sharpened in those two.
--
Jeff "Koganuts" Koga              1) "The 'Star Wars' Trilogy" by John Williams
Internet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu        2)"Dances with Wolves" by John Barry
Bitnet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.bitnet          3) "Star Trek II:TWoK" by James Horner
Recommended CDs:      4) "Soundtrack from '^Twin Peaks^'" by Angelo Baladamenti

The VCR messed up and I missed the first few minutes of the 4-4 TP.  I 
missed up to when Gordon was talking to Shelly in the R&R Diner.  Could 
somebody fill me in on the opening scenes I missed?
Also, in one the first ever episode, it showed Audrey, Donna, Bobby, and 
James at school when they announced Laura's death.  Did they all drop out 
or what?  They never have returned there, that's for sure.  I don't think 
it was the last day, before summer vacation.  But strange things are 
often afoot at the Peaks, so who knows.

And a very GOOD soap at that.

Of course it's better than Dallas.  In fact, it's probably my favorite
soap opera of all time.  

One of the things that attracted me to it when i first saw it was that
for the first time, the odd little things that would creep into soap
operas from time to time (such as the mad scientist with the freeze
ray on "General Hospital" or the underground kingdom of "Eterna" on
"One life to Live") were being put at the forefront.

I for one will be thrilled if it turns out that Donna, Audrey and
Laura are sisters. Heck, Ben Horne is the stag king of Twin Peaks -
maybe he's Shelley's real father too.

- Dan
--
 ____________________________________________________________________________
|Dan Parmenter|Think! It ain't illegal yet!  |dan@gnu.ai.mit.edu   |
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

In article <27FCEA5A.20055@ics.uci.edu> bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
> >Did anyone else notice that we got the old opening sequence back with
> >the 4/4 episode?  It started out with the little birdy perched on a
> >branch, and then it went to a shot of the sawmill where the blades were
> >being sharpened.
> >I'm pleased to see it come back.

Me, too. I was so glad.

Did anyone freak out when that odd
blue buffalo perched on the rocks 
filled the screen? I did. I sat
there saying, "What the hell is THAT?!"

-Matt
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In article <5326@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> ejacobs@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (TiffanyTwisted) writes:
> >I believe that just recently a woman somewhere on the
> >East coast succeeded in decapitating herself with
> >a chain saw.  I don't know how big or strong she was
> >but that's gotta take the cake as far as impossible
> >methods of suicide go.

I can't believe I'm discussing this, but....

All you would have to do is tape the chainsaw in a
posistion so that it stays with the blade parallel
with the ground and continues running and then
"fall" onto the blade w/ you neck (from a kneeling
position maybe?) 

Anyways, the axe sounds the worst.

-Matt
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In article <3803@dali> ieevlsi2@ming.cs.montana.edu (VLSI) writes:
>>> >>>There has been an assumption ('scuse me if this has already been 
>>> >>>addressed) that Annie was a nun.  We don't know that, we only know
>> >>
>> >>I believe she said "one of the other sisters used to put rum in her coffee."
> >Nope.  She says, "the sisters used to put rum in their tea."

Are you sure? I thought it was the same as VLSI
"One of the other sisters used to put rum
in her coffee; I thought it was so exotic."

-Matt
))))
(((
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In article <23990@well.sf.ca.us> emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us (Emmanuel Goldstein) writes:
> >While rewatching Twin Peaks recently, a friend of mine made an
> >interesting observation. While Ben Horne is watching that old
> >film where the Great Northern is being built, we see a rather 
> >familiar face standing right in front of the Great Northern sign.
> >It sure looks to me like Agent Cooper! Anyone else notice this?

I didn't.

-dave




--
David Ruderman                            ruderman@sbcs.sunysb.edu
Department of Computer Science                      (516) 632-7675
SUNY at Stony Brook                "The price of freedom is
Stony Brook, NY  11794-4400                    eternal vigilance."

After reviewing my tape copy, I think the line in question is "One
of the sisters used to put rum in her tea, and uh, I thought it sounded
exotic, so..."Wonder what the close-captioning said...
jma
__

Jim Allenspach.|"Nature is our trashcan."
jima@buhub.bradley.edu|
bradley!buhub!jima|- Cindy Widner

Well, Twin Peaks is back, but I fear not for long.  It is still in
the bottom of the ratings.  Damn the dense American public and the brain-dead
programmers at ABC to Hell!  Well, looks like that letter-writing campaign is
going to have to continue if we want to get TP reinstated next Fall.  Damn,
last night's episode was so GREAT!  We CAN'T lose this show!  I'll die!!!!!!

Now, I have the Los Angeles address for Bob Iger, but I lost the NY
one that David Lynch gave out on David Letterman.  Wouldn't the NY address
be better, as this is where Bob's (God, I can't beleive he's named BOB - yes I
can) office is located, or is it??  If anybody still has the NY address or
knows that Bob's office is in LA, please email me so I will not miss the reply.
By the way, does somebody actually read these letters for content, or are they
just tallied?

Thanks in advance,
Dan Harkless
dharkles@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

In article <27FD22B3.23195@ics.uci.edu> dharkles@ics.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:

> >Damn,
> >last night's episode was so GREAT!  We CAN'T lose this show!  I'll die!!!!!!

Dan, please try to get a grip.  It's just a TV show.  You won't die.
I promise.

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "House, bridge, well, gate, jug, olive tree, window" --Rilke

Doesn't it seem obvious that Annie. At the encouragement of
agent Cooper will enter the Miss Twin Peaks  contest in an
attempt to reenter the real world and end up winning.

-Pete

In article <1991Apr6.024023.27622@cs.umn.edu> gaertner@cs.umn.edu (Peter M. Gaertner) writes:

   Doesn't it seem obvious that Annie. At the encouragement of
   agent Cooper will enter the Miss Twin Peaks  contest in an
   attempt to reenter the real world and end up winning.

Yes, especially since Windom is missing not a chess queen, but the
"Queen of Hearts"...presumably the woman Cooper is in love with.

Muffy

Here's what happens at the end of the 4/4 show after Annie gets a drink.
I presume that this is what some Californians missed?

Rocky
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dale: Hello Annie.
Annie: Hi.
D: Can I get you something... oh,
A: No, no, I have a rum and tonic.
D: I see.
A: One of the sisters used to put rum in her tea and I thought it was
   exotic, so...
D: It's all new to you isn't it?
A: I feel constantly amazed.  Stunned.  Music and people-- the way they talk
   and laugh and the way some of them are so clearly in love.  It's like a 
   foreign language to me.  I know just enough of the words to realize how 
   little I know.
D: I'd love to see the world through your eyes.
A: Why?
D: There are some things I might do different if I had the chance.
A: Me too.

[Annie reaches for her drink-- Dale notices the suicide scar -- and 
Annie notices him noticing.  She pulls back her hand to cover her wrist.]

A: You see, the thing is I failed before and [pause] I'm just afraid it
   might happen again.
D: You want to talk about it?
A: Not yet.
D: Maybe I can help.
A: Can you?
D: If you want me to. 
A: I'm stubborn, extremely willful.
D: I can handle that.
A: Some people think I'm strange.
D: I know the feeling.

[Annie laughs]

A: I couldn't promise you that I would always make sense or do things that 
   you'd expect me to do.
D: Annie I don't expect anything.
A: Then I accept your kind and generous offer.
D: Good.  I'm glad.

[scene changes to the bright light of Windom's flashlight and then allows
us to see his figure in Owl Cave as he appears to be looking for something.
He comes across the uncovered "petroglyph."]

Windom: My, my, my. What have we ...

[While turning his flashlight to other parts of the cave and to the ceiling.]

W: ...here?

[Shot of the same petroglyph but upside down on the ceiling from Windom's 
point of view.  This one is enclosed by a diamond-shape.]
/\
       /  \
      /    \
                     /      \
                    /        \
   //\    \This should be more square
  /    /  \    \        but my ascii-graphics skills
 /    /    \    \are minimal.
        /     \    /     \
\  \  /\  /\  /  /
 \  \/\/  \/  /
  \            / 
   \          /
    \        /
     \    /
      \   /
       \  /
\/
W: Could it be?  

[Looks back at the petroglyph on the wall.]

W: Yes.

[Looks back at the ceiling.]

W: The symbol inverted. 

[laughs a wheezing kind of little laugh]

W: Now.

[Struggling a little, Windom grasps the stone shaft on the wall with his 
 right hand and rotates it counter-clockwise until the symbol on the wall 
 is the same as the one on the ceiling.  Andy's axe stuck in the "fire" 
 symbol begins to move as a trembling sound begins.  
 The axe is now directly aove the petroglyph on the wall.  The axe falls out 
 of the wall as the walls begin to shake more.  Windom is backing out
 of the cave with tiny laughs of satisfication.  Dust coming off of the
 wall fills the screen.]


Scenes from "Next, on Twin Peaks..."
------------------------------------
[A computer screen drawing of some kind of map?  It could be drawings of
something in Owl Cave?  It looks like there are two figures on the left
side above a circle of objects (BOB's candles?) and on the right is 
the sun.  The rest is too blurred to make out.]

[A close up of one of Windom's poem's mailed to one of the "queens."]
Dale: Would you please bring me Leo Johnson's arrest report.

[A shot of the black box]
Mrs. Martell:  Thomas Eckhardt left this to me when he died. 
       It might have something to do with Josie.

[A close shot of a black arrow.]
Unknown voice: What's with the arrow man.  What are you doing?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yo, folks, Nickie is 11 or 12 years old. Mrs. Hayward clearly said, Ben it's be
en 20 years. He's Donna's dad or thereabouts.

In article <19FC44D160C02014@UMAECS> GIOVIN%PRIAM@ecs.umass.edu (Rocky Giovinazzo) writes:

[Transcript of final minutes deleted.  Thanks for posting it!]

> >Scenes from "Next, on Twin Peaks..."
> >------------------------------------
> >[A computer screen drawing of some kind of map?  It could be drawings of
> >something in Owl Cave?  It looks like there are two figures on the left
> >side above a circle of objects (BOB's candles?) and on the right is 
                                 ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^

What do you mean by this exactly?  What am I forgetting?

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "House, bridge, well, gate, jug, olive tree, window" --Rilke

As to those markings on the back of Major Briggs neck and upon the log lady; 
With tribute to Monty Python, yes, they're "..verrry noicce." But what I want
to
know is why when the three symbols were on Major Briggs neck they were three
triangles arranged in a Radiation symbol pattern, but when COOP decided to
rearrange
them he came up with three diamonds. 

  Three triangles doesnt make three diamonds, it makes 1.5 diamonds. (You can
tell
I goes to college, huh ?) Imagine that an inconsistency....

------------------

Lee Crawford
Florida State University
Department of Physics,
Twin Peaks motivational officer.

-------------------

  I went to see the doctor of philosophy, with a poster of Rasputin and
a beard down to his knee; He never did marry, or see a B-grade movie. He 
graded my performance; he said he could see through me. I spent four years
prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper -- I was free....

    ---- E.Saliers, of the Indigo Girls

In article <1991Apr5.173605.21875@indetech.com> lzs@indetech.COM (Lynn Z. Schneider x2077) writes:
>>> >>>#>>A question about the Log Lady - Is she natural or base 10?
>>> >>>#>My guess is that she's base tree...
>>> >>>#
>>> >>># Or Oaktal.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>A HEX on you for these jokes!
>> >>
>> >>We've all BIN putting up with this long enough.
>> >>
> >
> >I just wonder what her LOGNAME is! (Don't SLASH me, now! This
> >thread should end with a BANG!)
> >
I think you guys should all be DEC'd, this is starting
to TEE me off!
-- Howard A. Wilson National Semiconductor Corp. howard@berlioz.nsc.com 408-721-3025

In article <1991Apr4.174953.1196@rice.edu> bdm@spacsun.rice.edu (Brian D. Moore) writes:
-In article <1991Apr4.042943.20246@ms.uky.edu>, bud@ms.uky.edu (William K Glunt) writes:
-|> In article <640@hydra.bucknell.edu> tmeade@pollux.tmc.edu (timothy meade) writes:
-|> >
-|> >>From: Richard.Travsky@samba.acs.unc.edu (Richard Travsky)
-|> >>
-|> >>A question about the Log Lady - Is she natural or base 10?
-|> >
-|> >My guess is that she's base tree...
-|> >
-|> 
-|>  Or Oaktal.
-
-     Fir God's sake, stop trying to spruce up the net with these jokes.  I
-pine for an air of seriousness here -- what we need is a strict disciplinarian
-at the elm to punish you offenders. (I'm sure if he were alive, Eric the Redwood
-do it. Or maybe Roy Cone.)  I guess we can no longer depend on the kindness of 
-strangers, like Branch DuBois did.  How about this:  the next person to make a tree pun willow the net an apology.  If you don't, we'll kick your ash, or
-maybe just Lynch ya, like we were in the John Birch Society.  We'll leaf your
-nude body swinging in the wind, like a Maplethorpe photograph, your pitiful
-existence trunkated, squashed like a couple of mesquitos.  And I assure you,
-Bush would pardon us.  You should be ashamed, the pear of you.
-
-     (Forgive me. When I get in front of a terminal, I don't know what happens.
-Just remember, my bark is worse than my byte.)

I've been pinin' fir a chance to say this.  Yew might say it woodn't make one
very poplar to palm off this old saw to the net, that I'm going out on a limb,
but I'm rather frond of it:

Why is Christmas the same as Halloween?
Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.

Maple you like it, maple you don't.  If knot, yew can suck my woodpecker and 
lick my gumbolimbo.  Just hope you don't get Dutch Elm Disease.

...and the Lady's Log must be base 2; it was part of a tree, wasn't it?


jimbo (still at larch!)

In article <11637@ptolemy-ri.ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov>, bates@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov (Andrew Bates) writes...

} [...]  and I'm not about to go off half-cocked and say that my viewing
} of the episode is more important than 3 people's lives  [...]

I don't think anyone would argue that any television show is more important
than 3 people's lives.

But tell me this: did those 3 lives depend on the country knowing about
the situation that very minute?  Would those lives have been in greater
jeopardy if the networks reported the incident ten minutes later? What
purpose was served by interrupting regular programming in progress instead
of waiting until the top of the hour?

-- "If I haven't explained Jerry, it's because he really can't be explained." -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM or ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian