Season 1, Episode 06: Realization Time — May 17–22, 1990

In article <YaJ3cXS00Vsn4_v_p6@andrew.cmu.edu> bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:


> >Does anyone have a copy of the relational database posted by
> >diane@ifs.umich.edu which actually unshar's properly?  Also, is there
> >a version of the database which is more up-to-date than 23-Apr?

> >Thanks in advance.


Does someone have this at an FTP'able location?  (Even the old one)

 thanks.

In article <11163@sun.udel.edu> cbrooks@sun.udel.edu (Chris Brooks) writes:
]If you were directing TP (or I suppose any similar show) would you do
]things differently if you expected people would tape your show and
]analyze it in detail later?
]
]It seems that some TP fans watch for the general effect, some tape and
]review in detail, some do a mix.  Do people think that Lynch and Frost
]have the tapers in mind at all?  
]I don't know enough about their work to have an opinion; however, I
]I might leave "certain clues" for the tapers--sort of a hidden extra.

Absolutely.  Video-recording has made it possible to treat film like a
manuscript, to be pored over and decipered.  However, films that predate
video-recording have been shot with similar precision and clue-planting.
I've often wondered just what the makers of "It's A Wonderful Life" are
doing with that crow that keeps cropping up.  Or the squirrel that runs
up Jimmie Stewart's arm.  But good film-makers from day ONE have regarded
their craft as an intricate work of art where the marginal or the
subliminal can add as much to the substance of the film as the obvious.
And I don't think one need be a videotaper to pick up on them,
necessarily.

In article <BN5JRJT@xavier.swarthmore.edu> awp92@campus.swarthmore.edu writes:

]Well, I think we've all realized by now that the dwarf in Cooper's dream is
]completely over-determined (to use a Freudian term).  He stands for just about
]everyone.  But I'm *sure* that the weird speech in that dream was a reference
]to Waldo.  Listening to the speech was like trying to understand a mynah
]bird...

I LOVE the way this show plays with the notion of the weird
"reconstruction."  We're constantly hearing things twice or three-times
removed.  The tape of the minah bird, for instance: we're hearing a
recording of an animal that is in itself a recording.  Add this to the
recent discussion of video-taping and we have yet another level...I'm
watching my record of a television record of a recording of a living
record....AAARGH!!  So many of the things that people say, too, are
inaudible or garbled or have multiple interpretations (so what else is
new).  The weird speech in the dream, incidentally, is another layer of
recordings.  Say it backwards, record it, play it backwards, record
that...  there's no level at which the show doesn't constantly remind us
of its artifices.

slhi

All right, everyone, I'm taking bets as to who the prowler near the gazebo
(the one watching Maddy after James, Donna, and Bobby leave).  Leland?  
Killer Bob?  Leo?  I'm banking on Leland; he looked awfully freaky when
we saw him looking after Maddy.

Did the bird tell us anything new?  I thought we knew already that Leo and
Jacques were the only visitors to the cabin.  We've been thinking about
how the bird ties in to what the Log Lady tells Dale & co.  Break the code,
solve the crime, we've only got 4 days left....

Agent Cooper doesn't like birds.  Or secrets.  Where IS Josie from, anyway?
And will Hank have time to waste Big Ed in the next episode, or was that
just a little atmospheric moment in this week's?

My friend Margarita thinks Twin Peaks will all burn to the ground--the mill,
then the Great Northern when the Icelanders drunkenly set the ballroom
ablaze, then the woods themselves...  Hank is going to torch Big Ed's Gas
Farm... and we'll get a shot of Dale, the Sheriff, and Hawk watching the
flames.  There are many spirits in the woods, aren't there, Margaret?

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER, for those lamos who seem to think the previews
are not part of the episode and don't want to speculate on them--one of
the things I find most enjoyable about all this:




















I hope everyone noticed that the pickup being surrounded by police cars
at the end of the preview is Leo's tan pickup, and that's probably Leo
that the Sheriff is walking forwards to apprehend.

So what happens when Ben sees Audrey working at One-Eyed Jack's?  What
about when Dale sees her?  Next week's gonna be a rouser of an episode.

But I heard a rumor that the murderer won't be revealed, even next week. 
Anyone know the real deal?



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I had a lot of fun watching that last episode, but it felt more
like conventional TV than most of the other episodes did.  That was
true for the second one-hour episode, too.  I think in this last one
they had to cram in too much plot to be able to maintain the nothing-
is-happening-but-everything-seems-really-weird air that seems to
characterize TP at its best.

I was also a little irked by the way some of the characters seemed to
be refusing to show the additional depth that netters want them to
have.  Lucy's blabbing about the mynah bird over the radio seemed to
fit her surface image perfectly.  I think she and Miss Depesto are
excellent matches, in fact.  I dunno, maybe that's the only example I
can think of.

But I did love the plot.  Things will definately be hopping next
Wednesday night.  (Which I just implied is not TP at its best.  You
know what they say about a foolish consistency.)  I, for one, was glad
Cooper fended Audrey off.  Sleeping with her wouldn't have been the
right thing to do, and I want him to keep on doing the right thing.  On
the other hand, I'm starting to like Audrey better.  Pretty she is
(actually, I like Donna, myself), but I generally don't like people who
pour coffee all over someone's desk just to be obnoxious, or who engage
in manipulation and blackmail.  However, it's beginning to get through
to me how she's hurting.

Seems like Cooper made little attempt to hide the fact that he was
counting cards at the blackjack table.  Don't casinos frown on that
sort of behavior?

Does anybody have a good read on Ed and Nadine's relationship?  Was she
a normal human being at some earlier date?

And does that metasoap the townspeople are always watching come on all
hours of the day?  Or does everybody videotape it and watch it at their
convenience?  (Remember Jacoby was watching it when Maddie called.)
Maybe that soap is the only thing the stations in TP carry, and it's
the force that keeps the town in its pure state that so appeals to
Agent Cooper.  Maybe it gives a town of 51,000 the ambience of a tiny
mountain community.  

Mark Foskeymfoskey@ucsd.edu

...Those of you who don't want to hear anything about what MIGHT happen
next week should get out of this message while the getting's good.

In the meantime, I assume many of you have read the Rolling Stone interview
with David Lynch (The issue with the B-52's on the cover). In it they are
discussing a scene in which Cooper and Truman discover the killer -- He is
some bizarre guy dancing around an altar decorated with various "found"
objects, including a human ear that a deranged fan had sent in to Lynch.

Now, I haven't seen the European movie version of "Twin Peaks". Is the
'drifter named Robert' this same man? Or is this a scene yet to take place
in the series? This would be a little weird, since Mark Frost, the co-
creator of the series, is directing the last episode, not Lynch. We shall
see.

Another thing I got out of some magazine called "Millimeter" shows Truman
and Cooper in a cemetery, apparently looking at Laura's grave. In the
foreground there is a tombstone inscribed: "MURLIN / I TOLD YOU I WAS SICK"

Something else that was seen in the Euro version, or is a late-night inves-
tigation at the cemetery another piece of the final episode?

Just curious..

                                 -Uzer

Could someone please send me a transcript of the audio portion of the
preview?  The Indy ABC affiliate (WRTV 6) ran an Oprah ad over it so my
tape has the pictures without the right words.  Well, Cooper says
"Diane," and then the rest is cut off.

It's bad enough they always talk over the closing credits....

---
Allen BraunsdorfPurdue University Computing Center
cc.purdue.edu!ahgUNIX Systems Programmer

In article <0aJIaA_00VsnABKlQt@andrew.cmu.edu> bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:
> >OK, modified theory (on behalf of Paul Raveling):  Leland enters the
> >red-curtain cabin at some point when Laura is there but Leo, Jacques
> >and Ronette have gone.  He has seen their sexual cavortings, and
> >somehow kills Laura (probably inadvertently).  He runs away and Leo
> >and Jacques return.  With their reputations, they're sure that the
> >murder will be blamed on them.  So they wrap up the body, stick an "R"
> >under a fingernail to make it look like another murder the year
> >before, then dump Laura's body far away.

Sorry, but this doesn't quite work either. Remember in the pilot,
when Cooper and Truman are in the morgue, examining Laura's body?
Cooper examines her ring finger with his magnifying glass and says
"There it is, there it is, oh my God, there it is!" Then:

COOPER (to morgue technician): Would you leave please?
MT: Jim.
COOPER: (pause) Would you leave us alone please?
MT: Oh, sure.
(MT leaves.)

Cooper asks the morgue tech to leave because the business of the
letter under the fingernail is one of the crime signatures that
hasn't been made public, so the police can separate the copycats
and the compulsive confessors from the real killer. 

That's how we know that the same person killed Laura Palmer and
Theresa Banks. 

Also, in considering who the killer might be, remember this: Laura
died of loss of blood from many small wounds, no one of them
sufficient to have caused her death. This was not a crime of
passion or rage. It was calculated torture and it took some time.
People don't bleed to death all that quickly. I can imagine a
father who is nuts killing his daughter, but I can't imagine him
slowly torturing her to death. This theory also fails to explain
Ronette Pulaski who, according to Dr. Hayward, was attacked by the
same person who killed Laura, based on the type of wounds she suffered.

Leo Johnson is the most obvious fit for the killer. He's mobile, and
could easily have been in the south-west corner of the state when
Theresa Banks was killed. He's a violent sociopath who enjoys
inflicting pain. Also, now that we know Leo and Jacques were with
Laura and Ronette in the cabin, it makes a certain amount of sense:
Leo tortures Laura to death while Jacques works on Ronette, but Jacques
doesn't finish the job and lets Ronette escape. After Ronette wanders
down off the mountain, Leo finds out about it and, realizing that
Jacques' soft-heartedness threatens to put him in the electric chair
(assuming they have the death penalty there), beats the snot out of
Jacques on Friday night but doesn't kill him because he still needs
him for his drug connections. This is why Leo's shirt has a large
amount of Jacques' blood on it, and why Jacques disappears for a
few days.

The problem with Leo is that it's not clear to me that he is a
sexual sadist of the type who usually commits serial murders. Nor is
he the type to engage in the ritualistic aspects of the murder: the
letter under the fingernail, the mound of dirt and the necklace, FIRE
Walk with Me, etc. Leo is very pragmatic. Instead of hanging around to
cap Bobby and Shelley after he hears the police traffic about
Waldo, he immediately drives off to pop the stool mynah because it
can connect him to the cabin and Laura.

Also, he's just plain too obvious.

My nominee for the killer is still Dr. Jacoby. Maybe he was sacrificing
Laura to Pele, but Mount St. Helens was too far to drive, so he dumped
her in the river after killing her. Then, since she wasn't a virgin, he
decided to offer up Ronette as well, but was interrupted and Ronette
got away. Or, to be slightly more serious, if Laura is as corrupt as
we've been told, maybe she tried to blackmail Jacoby for patient-porking
and he decided to "cure" her overnight. The operation was a success
but the patient died?

My second choice after Jacoby would be Major Briggs. He's about the
right age to have been in Viet Nam, and could easily have heard about
a particularly ugly form of execution in Asia known as The Death of
One Thousand Cuts, which sounds remarkably like what was done to Laura.
I can easily imagine him giving one of his boring didactic lectures
while cutting up Laura for corrupting Bobby.

-- Dave Mack

In article <11563@shlump.nac.dec.com>, boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy)
says:

> >Look, it *really* is rather uncool to reveal the identity of the killer
> >without including a spoiler warning. Especially when this revelation is
> >halfway down the first screen's worth of article. I'm adding a form feed
> >here.
> >

That's all very well, but for those of us who aren't using your software,
putting a " in means nothing.  This goes for ^L too.  Please actually
insert lines if you really want to move stuff off the screen.

--                                                      ele@psuvm.psu.edu
jeremy..                                        crampton@yon.geog.psu.edu

In article <10952@yunexus.UUCP> logan@yunexus.UUCP (Beryl Logan) writes:
> >I agree on the excessiveness of Leland's grief (and also didn't like
> >the dance).  Leland's grief seems to be increasing with each show -
> >when Laura was first found, he was very composed and cared for his
> >wife who was understandably distraught.  However, now it seems that
> >while she is more composed - recall her reactions to Leland in the
> >broken-picture scene and at the funeral - he seems to be going in the
> >other direction.  Guilt - perhaps....I'm not sure.

This discription reminded me an awful lot of reading _Macbeth_\
in high school....perhaps Leland is crumbling like Lady Macbeth
did? Does that make his wife the murderer? Just a thought.

Now if he starts talking about blood on his hand....


-- c2h5oh@ucscb.ucsc.edu | "Damn good pie" | - Luke Deveraux, We WON!!! | _Martians,_Go_Home_

In article <10664@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> pa1029@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (pa1029) writes:
]I, for one, was glad
]Cooper fended Audrey off.  Sleeping with her wouldn't have been the
]right thing to do, and I want him to keep on doing the right thing.  On
]the other hand, I'm starting to like Audrey better.  Pretty she is
](actually, I like Donna, myself), but I generally don't like people who
]pour coffee all over someone's desk just to be obnoxious, or who engage
]in manipulation and blackmail.  However, it's beginning to get through
]to me how she's hurting.
]
Ditto.  I like Audrey the best, so far, next to Agent Cooper.  I'm glad
he didn't jump in the sack either.  Somehow, that opening scene with him
sitting on the edge of the bed with his back to her, going through the
painful process of having to reject someone gently was the perfect touch
to his character.  He's so... so... WHOLESOME that it would have been
completely out of character for him to play into Audrey's hands.  Audrey
can make other people dance to her tune, but not Dale Cooper.  Maybe
I'll be surprised.

]And does that metasoap the townspeople are always watching come on all
]hours of the day?  Or does everybody videotape it and watch it at their
]convenience?  (Remember Jacoby was watching it when Maddie called.)
]Maybe that soap is the only thing the stations in TP carry, and it's
]the force that keeps the town in its pure state that so appeals to
]Agent Cooper.  Maybe it gives a town of 51,000 the ambience of a tiny
]mountain community.  

There's something sort of funny and creepy about the idea that
"Invitation to Love" might be the ONLY thing that's on... ever.  All
day, all night, and all repeats.  I'm sure that was an intentional piece
of surrealism on Lynch's part.  I don't think you can rationalize
anything in this show.

> >Mark Foskeymfoskey@ucsd.edu

Sarah.

Previously, several individuals speculated as to whether or not
Black Rose ("Blackie") was in actuality Nadine (Miss Silent Drape Runner,
1990).

Some have double-checked their archives and still AREN'T SURE.

The two look completely different, yes.. but with makeup, lighting,
a different wig or hairstyle, and minus the eyepatch.. I am led to 
believe there is a SLIM possibility the two are one in the same.

I will not put any money on it (I am probably WRONG WRONG WRONG), but all 
the same, it is interesting to think about Nadine owning a place
called "One Eyed Jack's".

Even more interesting to think about, is that both Ed and Nadine (apparant
victims handcuffed together in a hapless marriage) are wearing disguises..
and do not recognize each other yet.

Next week, (if this is true), we can look forward not only to a 
confrontation between Audrey and Cooper, but Ed and Nadine as well.

In article <10664@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> pa1029@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (pa1029) writes:

> >Does anybody have a good read on Ed and Nadine's relationship?  Was she
> >a normal human being at some earlier date?

My impression is that yes, Nadine was a "normal human being" at one time;
presumably, this would be when she and Ed fell in love.  Over the years,
for some unknown reason, her mental condition deteriorated.  As a result,
while Ed still cares for her a great deal, they do not (and cannot) have
a normal "adult-to-adult" relationship; Nadine is virtually completely
dependent on Ed, with Ed in basically a caretaker/nurse role.  Needing 
other, more substantial, companionship, Ed turns to Norma, his old high
school sweetheart (who is in need of a more law-abiding companion). 

Don't have much to back up this interpretation over any other; as I said,
it's just my guess....

---
Barbara Petersen
..{apple, claris, dlb, tandem, teraida}!netcom!petersen    petersen@netcom.uucp
               "Everybody was dancing in the moonlight...."

In article <1990May20.014933.28698@alembic.acs.com>, csu@alembic.acs.com
(Dave Mack) writes:

> > The problem with Leo is that it's not clear to me that he is a
> > sexual sadist of the type who usually commits serial murders. Nor is
> > he the type to engage in the ritualistic aspects of the murder: the
> > letter under the fingernail, the mound of dirt and the necklace, FIRE
> > Walk with Me, etc. Leo is very pragmatic.

An excellent point -- any theory about who the killer is goes nowhere unless
and until it provides an explanation for the ritualistic aspects of the murder.
Focusing narrowly on these aspects, Dr. Jacoby seems the most obvious suspect,
given his goofy neo-mystical bent....

---
Barbara Petersen
..{apple, claris, dlb, tandem, teraida}!netcom!petersen    petersen@netcom.uucp
              "Who's that guy at the window with the helmet?"

In article <1745@engage.enet.dec.com> rosch@cpdw.enet.dec.com (Ray Rosch) writes:
> >The murder has been established as occuring on or about the 24th. of 
> >February.
> >
> >Twin Peaks has been established to be very near the Canadian border, 
> >probably in Washington State.
> >
> >Question - Why no snow on the ground? 
> >
> >Raymond RoschInternet: Rosch@cpdw.enet.dec.com


this would help in placing twin peaks near the western edge of washington.
since washington is next to the ocean, it is in fact relatively rare for
there to be snow at all. (i'm talking about the strip containing bellingham,
seattle, tacoma, etc.) in seattle, it snows maybe once a year, and then
melts within a few days at most. the eastern edge of washington gets quite
a bit of snow during the winter.

mike barnett
(mbarnett@cs.utexas.edu)

In article <1990May19.072942.23320@alembic.acs.com>, csu@alembic.acs.com
(Dave Mack) writes:
>> >>I was working under the following assumptions:
>> >>1) That the Dr. Leydecker who runs the clinic has not been identified as
>> >>BOB Leydecker.
> > 
> > And I imagine a sharp guy like Agent Cooper would make sure that
> > the vet running the clinic is in fact BOB LYDECKER (dammit), not
> > his black sheep brother Napoleon Lydecker, ...

Who says he didn't?  Cooper has regularly known things that we didn't know that
he knew, only to have him reveal said things at crucial moments in an almost
offhanded way.  He might know very well that the Lydecker (OK, OK, OK...)
running the clinic is not named Bob (if that is the case), but he hasn't told
this to US (or to Harry and co.) just yet.

> > In a good mystery, the detective isn't some fumblebunny who isn't
> > even bright enough to check out the full name of a suspect. ...
> > But if you are [right], it means that
> > FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper is an incompetent nitwit. For me,
> > at least, that would ruin the series.

As I said, Cooper may know full well exactly what it is going on here (with
regards to there being two separate Lydeckers, again IF that is the case), but
that fact (the fact itself and the fact that Cooper knows this) may not have
been revealed to the audience or to the other characters just yet.

In any case, I am sticking out the defense of this idea only as a possibility.
As I mentioned originally, I heard this idea from a friend who said he noticed
some wavering in the response of the clinic's receptionist to the question
posed to her about the identity of the person in the drawing.  (As if she was
saying that it wasn't the Dr. Lydecker she worked for at the clinic who was in
the picture, but...)  But this is the last time I go to the wall for someone
else's theory.  (And Mark, you can pass that on to Killer Ben...)

However, there are a couple of things I've been thinking about regarding
Cooper's deductive detective abilities.  First, I found Cooper's attitude
towards the Log Lady a bit presumptive, hypocritical, and ironic.  Eventually
he does come around to her, but initially his attitude is "Talk to a log?  What
a ridiculous idea, trying to solve a crime by asking a log a bunch of
questions!  Excuse me, I've got some rocks to throw..."

Second, Cooper's psychic abilities have played an important role in getting us
where we are with the mystery, but I wonder if Cooper himself is about to make
too many assumptions based on his own deductions and visions.  The shirt found
at the apartment ties Leo to the Renault brothers, and Cooper seems to be able
to identify the blood, but that shirt was placed there surreptitiously by
Bobby.  Yes, Leo and the Renaults *are* connected, so Bobby did "help" the
situation there, but I somehow get the feeling that Cooper himself may jump to
a conclusion based on faulty psychic input or bad assumptions that leads him to
suspect (or even arrest) the wrong person next week, possibly based in part on
Bobby's not-so-red herring.  Dave, such an occurrence might "ruin the series"
for you (as it sort of leads to a disappointing turn in Cooper's character),
but I would find such a turn of events most interesting.  Sort of a "Never
assume, even if you're psychic" message.

(I probably should have voiced these ideas in a separate article, since nobody
is probably reading these doppel-lydecker articles anymore; I admit that the
"Two Lydecker Theory" is possibly the most boring notion proposed in this
newsgroup so far... :-?)
--
"When you told your secret name, I burst in flame and burned..."
Rich Rosenrlr@toccata.rutgers.edu

> > I feel gypped.
> >
> > Someone cheer me up.
.-.
|T|he psychics in the audience know that they made wild,
`-' passionate, kinky love with the milkshakes.  He had
    her put her clothes back on so she didn't get frost-
    bite.  We know this because he's a strong sender.
    <_Jym_>

> > Question - Why no snow on the ground? 
.-.
|G|lobal warming.
`-' <_Jym_>

In article <10846@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ahg@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) writes...

} Could someone please send me a transcript of the audio portion of the
} preview?  The Indy ABC affiliate (WRTV 6) ran an Oprah ad over it so
} my tape has the pictures without the right words.  Well, Cooper says
} "Diane," and then the rest is cut off.

Urg.  That is *clearly* a case for capital punishment.

OK, here 'tis:

Coop: "Diane, it's 9:02, and I can't find Twin Peaks. At 8:57, I entered
      the RR Diner for the double-java-hold-the-cow special, and when I
      returned, it was gone. The irony here is not lost. I have searched
      diligently for six weeks to find Laura's murderer and now Twin Peaks
      is missing. My dream revealed that its new location begins with the
      letter 'W', which would make 'Wednesday' an obvious choice. But...
      what about Walla Walla?"

Narrator: "The season finale of Twin Peaks...Wednesday at 10, 9 Central."

Coop: "If Twin Peaks *has* moved to Wednesday, Diane, one question remains:
      Where am I?"

-- "I never use a pen. I write with a goose quill dipped in venom." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <11285@sun.udel.edu>, conrad@sun.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes...

} Anyway, here it all is.  Anybody who can tell me exactly who, out of
} all the "guest starring" actresses, plays Blackie, will be heartily
} thanked.

By process of elimination, I'm reasonably certain that it's Victoria
Catlin. Hers was the only unaccounted for female name in the "guest-
starring" list at the beginning, and the only other episode her name
appears is the other episode in which Blackie appears.

} Lucy Morgan, the sheriff's receptionist             Kimmy Robertson
       ^^^^^^

It's actually "Moran", not "Morgan". Her name is visible on the nameplate
on her office door in the very first shot of her we see at the beginning
of the pilot. It's confirmed in the PEOPLE chart.

} Blackie O'Reilly, proprietress of One Eyed Jacks   [unsure of name]

See above.

A couple that you left off:

Trudy ---, waitress at the Great Northern's
           restaurant                                 Jill Rogosheske

  (Well, she *has* appeared in just about every episode!)

The Man from Another Place, a dream dwarf         Michael J. Anderson

  (He was a one-shot, but it was definitely a high-profile role.)

--- Neff, insurance agent                              Mark Lowenthal

  (He could be important later. I'm not positive on the actor's
   name, but again, it's the only unaccounted for name in the
   Guest-Star list.)

You might also want to include the cast to INVITATION TO LOVE.

-- "I never use a pen. I write with a goose quill dipped in venom." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

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There is a mountain there called, you guessed it: Twin Peaks.

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No matter how this wraps up, we are surely going to see some
post-mortem analysis about what made this so watchable.  Let me jump 
in early, since my comments don't depend on who gets nailed for the murder.

(1)  The initial impression from the pilot that everyone in
town was eminently certifiable was unique.  Standard evening TV
casebooks say that quirky people are either funny or dangerous.  Casting
them as normals made them anti-normal, anti-soap.  TP thus became strong
social comment and intelligent viewing, since ordinary tube fare is neither.
Did anyone else notice how much TP felt like a book instead of a TV
program?  The medium and the message were not aligned.It took a TV+VCR
to see it correctly.

However, the series was destined to lose most of this edge-of-
reality feeling, if for no other reason than it had to keep going,
speaking from a little box, and protecting its market share.  TV
consumes all.  If it is renewed as a series it will not be a victory
for creativity; it will be a signal that another challenge to video
mindlessness has been met and conquered.  Let it die.

(2)  The character of Dale Cooper was the show's highlight for
me.  It has been pointed out several times that he seems to have super-
detective capabilities.  This is not correct, if the word 'detective' is
defined by the models of modern detectiveship.Conan Doyle launched the model
with Holmes.  The perfect sleuth is the perfectly rational person, applying
logic to analytic observation.So Poirot, so Maigret, so Sam Spade, so all.
A Clouseau is funny because he solves cases even though he is absolutely
imperfect. But Cooper does not work within this model. His weapon is intuition
and his method is receptivity.He believes that the crime solves itself,
that all the solver has to do is to accept the revelation.  When all the facts
are collected, Holmes can follow the deductive thread.Cooper, however,
assembles the evidence to evoke the dream.  The solution to the crime is the
interpretation of the dream.

Lynch didn't invent this model.  It is the work of Douglas Adams,
as far as I can tell.  Cooper is Dirk Gently.  But Cooper is, I think, a
more effective example of this model than Gently, perhaps because Gently is
(to this point) confined to books, where the presuppositions of normality
are not so strong as the visual medium.

If the TV mohguls are listening, how about bringing Cooper back
in a series of Gently-style stories.  The rest of Twin Peaks can be moved
to the afternoon, where it (increasingly) belongs.

> >In article <2395@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> ereidell@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Evan A. Reidell) writes:
> >3. After reading the TV Guide article about "Hackers" (what can be
> >   done about journalists abusing the 'H' word?  MS-LOSS yuppies shelling
> >   out $$$ to use pumped-up BBS programs are _NOT_ hackers...) I thought
> >   about all the electronic TWIN PEAKS fans without access to NetNews.
> >   Can anyone with Compuserve, PRODIGY or BIX access tell us if there are
> >   good TWIN PEAKS discussions there?  And keep us informed if USENET is
> >   being raped by any such 'service'?

There are good Twin Peaks discussions going on in at least two Forums
on CompuServe that I've seen in the last week.



-- Mark D. Freeman (614) 262-1418 Applications Programmer, CompuServe mdf@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu [70003,4277] ...!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mdf Columbus, OH Guest account at The Ohio State University

Usually when something painful is going to be done to a person, they
are given something to bite on.  Might Jacque and Leo have given Laura a 
poker chip to bite on while they put the letter under her fingernail?
Cooper did have to dig for the letter (it still hurts for me to think 
about it) so the letter must have been placed deep.  (Though, of course, the
letter need not have been placed when she was alive)

Anyway, this begs the question, "Why?"  My answer is because of a cult
that Leo and Jacques belong to.  My theory is as follows:
1)  The letter takes the place of a ring
It was placed under the nail on the ring finger
2)  The letter signifies a bond, much like a wedding band, but
            more permanent.
3)  The letter signifies who the person is bound to.

Alright then, if we assume that Laura was a member of the cult, then she would
be taking part in the ceremonies of her own free will.  She had the chip in her
mouth to bite on, but it broke and she accidentally swallowed a piece.  My 
guess is that the letter stood for Renault, and that Jacques received a letter
from Leo (which is where the blood might have come from, but that is an awful
lot of blood to come from one finger) that was a P for Palmer.

I don't know how Ronnete would fit in this, but I also believe that Laura 
and Ronnete were attacked later by someone else, not Jacques and Leo.

Then again maybe not.  Hopefully we will find out Wednesday.

gene

TWIN PEAKS HERE TO STAY
Network execs find coffee-and-donuts crew captures a difficult age group

On Wednesday, Americans may finally know who killed Laura Palmer and
the "many secrets" she holds.  But meanwhile, network executives are trying
to discover the secrets of Twin Peaks' success -- and it's secret in tapping
into a hard-to-hold age group at it's time slot.

While Twin Peaks has been losing the older crowd that tunes in for
"Father Dowling Mysteries" in the preceding slot, they have made great gains
in the 20-30something crowd and, to the suprise of network executives, even
the 10-20 age groups.

"We now know that a mystery format -- if it has personalities that are
interesting and somewhat quirky -- can succeed in both a children's and
an adult market," said Mark McPherson, speaking at a news conference for the
network.

McPherson is confident that he can keep the younger viewers despite
the decision to show the season finale at 10:00 P.M. Wednesday night.  "We
believe that no parent is going to be able to keep a dedicated son or
daughter from seeing the end of the mystery, no matter what the time."

Not only are executives confident that they can hold on to the younger
set, but they feel that they can capture the older viewers who were alienated
by the bizarre twists and turns of the plot, and by the lack of resolutions
by show's end.

Bessie Clary, who has been in charge of coordinating the various
directors of this season's episodes, will be in charge of the new direction
Twin Peaks will be taking next season.  "We envision a more encapsulated
version of Twin Peaks -- with a single mystery being raised and solved each
show.  Of course the strange elements will still be there:  Lucy's remarks
and Cooper's personality -- but these will take backstage to a more easily
digestible plot."

Early suggestions are that Twin Peaks will have a format very similar
to Father Dowling Mysteries or Murder She Wrote but with just enough of the
macabre touch initiated by David Lynch to maintain the interest of the younger
viewers.

Is the network confident that they can keep the younger viewers
watching?  McPherson thinks so.  "It's become a fad already.  We think it
will outlast the Simpsons.  Never underestimate the power of a cult following
with teens and pre-teens."

Rumors have even been flying that consultants from Caspary & Sklar
(the company that handled the licensing of "Beetlejuice" models and action
figures) have been contacted to discuss marketing a line of Peaks-related
odds and ends.

Shelby Carpenter, vice-president of Caspary & Sklar, confirmed that
they have been talking with the network, but declined to discuss what the
discussions entailed.


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dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:

[Yes, but who wrote it first?  Attribute, attribute, attribute.]

> > TWIN PEAKS HERE TO STAY
> > Network execs find coffee-and-donuts crew captures a difficult age group

[...]

> >         "We now know that a mystery format -- if it has personalities that
> > are interesting and somewhat quirky -- can succeed in both a children's and
> > an adult market," said Mark McPherson, speaking at a news conference for the
> > network.

God help us.  A "formula" maven.  Prepare for a slew of Twin Peaks clones.

> > Not only are executives confident that they can hold on to the younger
> > set, but they feel that they can capture the older viewers who were alienated
> > by the bizarre twists and turns of the plot, and by the lack of resolutions
> > by show's end.
> > 
> >         Bessie Clary, who has been in charge of coordinating the various
> > directors of this season's episodes, will be in charge of the new direction
> > Twin Peaks will be taking next season.  "We envision a more encapsulated
> > version of Twin Peaks -- with a single mystery being raised and solved each
> > show.  Of course the strange elements will still be there:  Lucy's remarks
> > and Cooper's personality -- but these will take backstage to a more easily
> > digestible plot."

Christ on a crutch.  This is what happened to the James Bond series,
when the producers thought they had hit on a "success" formula
(women, gadgets, cars, who cares about the story?).  We're doomed.
We're all DOOMED!

A more "encapsulated" Twin Peaks will pretty much render this
newsgroup impotent.  Of course, this newsgroup has been fifty percent
of the joy of watching Twin Peaks.

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Hey, these guys are in business to make money.  What did you expect.

Nor is an "encapsulated" format necessarily the kiss of death.  Net
users rave over shows like STAR TREK, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and THE
AVENGERS, among a zillion others -- all with encapsulated formats.  The
44-minute teledrama is a restrictive format but in the right hands it
can be a refreshing opportunity to branch out in new directions each
week.  And of course two-parters are always possible.

Still, I'm disappointed ABC isn't heading toward some of the other
possible formats, like a monthly two hour TVM or a miniseries.  I think
they may be mischaracterizing their audience just a bit.  The "difficult
segment" TP brought back to the tube does NOT want to sit through a
conventional hour of crime drama week after week for a year.  If they
did, they'd be watching MacGyver already.

The "fad" nature of TP shouldn't be ignored.  It's something to get
excited about for a couple of months at a time, max.  After that it
starts to pall; the emotional and intellectual fervor is draining.  If
they did it as a mini twice a year, a wide spectrum of people might get
as excited as hell, tape everything, trade notes, etc, just as we are
now.  If it goes weekly, only pre-converted tapehead fanatics will care,
and it'll die after a season.

My personal decision hinges on Lynch.  If he is involved at a level more
detailed than executive producer or "created by," I will watch, but if
he deserts the new format so will I.

You will probably have heard by now that David Lynch's new movie "Wild
At Heart," aka The Return of Laura Dern, has won top honors (Golden Palm
for Best Film) at Cannes.  (Last year's winner was Steven Soderbergh for
"sex, lies and videotape.")  The newswire says he introduced himself
at the presentation as "an Eagle Scout from Missoula, Montana."

The description of the film makes it sound bloody, sexy and gothic.
Can't wait...

In article <3501@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, oliver@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Dolphin) writes:
> > 5)  Madelyn finds a cassette in the bedpost, goes downstairs
> >     and calls Donna, bringing the cassette down with her in a 
> >     shoe box.  WHY?? a) she didn't need the cassette to call

I hadn't been giving the Laura-Madeleine switch idea any serious
thought before, but did anyone else notice how quickly Madeleine 
dialed Donna's phone number on the pushbutton phone while barely
even looking at the phone? Laura would know that number by heart...

--
Jim Morton, APPLiX Inc., Westboro, MA
...uunet!applix!jim    jim@applix.com

In article <13535@venera.isi.edu> raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) writes:
> >4.  The bearded guy in the negligee was the show's property
> >    manager.

What a film debut.  Does he keep a cassette of this for his grandkids? :-)

> >5.  The rock-throwing scene was written by Mark Frost, and
> >    its shooting demonstrated the actors' almost superhuman
> >    ability to stay in character despite humorous circumstances.

Where was it shot?  Looks like a public park of some kind.

> >7.  Except, "Invitation to Love" was shot in one of the
> >    modestly famous local houses built by Frank Lloyd Wright.
> >    (Not Hollyhock house, the other famous one up in the Griffith
> >    Park area.  Somehow none of us could remember its name
> >    last night.)

Would this be the Ennis-Brown House by any chance?  The exterior is made
of modular concrete cubes on a Mayan motif (the experimental concrete
compound Wright used has fared terribly in the polluted Hollywood air)
but the interior is classic FLW with long high halls, wood and brass and
leaded glass.  I've toured it a couple of times, the atmosphere is
unbelievable, and I know the E-B foundation would be tickled to toss
film money into the restoration fund.

I was just looking over the booklet that came with my CD of 'Floating
Into The Night' and I found in the list of people to thank the name Bob.  Just
Bob.  No last name.

This album has a lot to do with the series.  Every song seems to make
references to the wind or birds or some strange love affair: When you told me
your secret name/I burst into flame/and burned.  Things like that.

Wouldn't it be odd if the secret to who killed LP is somewhere on this
album?  Break the code and solve the crime.

By the way, the music that was playing as Hawk, Truman, Cooper and Doc
were approaching the cabin is also on this album.  It is called 'Into the Night'

gene

In article <wHegJ1w162w@darkside.com>, tristan@darkside.com (Tristan A. Farnon) writes...

} Previously, several individuals speculated as to whether or not Black
} Rose ("Blackie") was in actuality Nadine (Miss Silent Drape Runner, 1990).

} Some have double-checked their archives and still AREN'T SURE.

Oh, come on!  It was a damn *joke* -- a parody on the speculation that the
"new girl" at OEJ's in the previous episode was Lucy. Sheesh.

} The two look completely different, yes.. but with makeup, lighting,
} a different wig or hairstyle, and minus the eyepatch.. I am led to 
} believe there is a SLIM possibility the two are one in the same.

Nadine and Blackie are played by two different actresses. Does that tell
you something?

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In article <265721a7.3741@petunia.CalPoly.EDU>, dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:
> > TWIN PEAKS HERE TO STAY
> > 
> > "We now know that a mystery format -- if it has personalities that are
> > interesting and somewhat quirky -- can succeed in both a children's and
> > an adult market," said Mark McPherson, speaking at a news conference for the
> > network.
> > 
  Market???  Can't television executives just enjoy the show rather than look
for a way to capitalize on it?
  
> > Not only are executives confident that they can hold on to the younger
> > set, but they feel that they can capture the older viewers who were alienated
> > by the bizarre twists and turns of the plot, and by the lack of resolutions
> > by show's end.
> > 
Anyone who felt alienated by the bizarre twists is probably happy watching the
rest of the tv sludge.  TP has been the only good thing on television
(excepting The Simpsons) for a long time.  I just wish the tv executives would
realize that there are intelligent people who want quality programming out
there.

> > Bessie Clary, who has been in charge of coordinating the various
> > directors of this season's episodes, will be in charge of the new direction
> > Twin Peaks will be taking next season.  "We envision a more encapsulated
> > version of Twin Peaks -- with a single mystery being raised and solved each
> > show.  Of course the strange elements will still be there:  Lucy's remarks
> > and Cooper's personality -- but these will take backstage to a more easily
> > digestible plot."
  ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
Wonderful.  Don't they realize that the strange personalities and the bizarre
twists are what make the show?  If I wanted a digestible plot, I would be
watching reruns of Charlie's Angels instead.
> > 
> > Is the network confident that they can keep the younger viewers
> > watching?  McPherson thinks so.  "It's become a fad already.  We think it
> > will outlast the Simpsons.  Never underestimate the power of a cult following
> > with teens and pre-teens."

Duran Duran...New Kids on the Block...Twin Peaks???
> > 
> > Rumors have even been flying that consultants from Caspary & Sklar
> > (the company that handled the licensing of "Beetlejuice" models and action
> > figures) have been contacted to discuss marketing a line of Peaks-related
> > odds and ends.

Get your Twin Peaks lunchbox!  Agent Cooper sheets for sale!  And don't forget
to call for special updates on your favorite Twin Peaks stars..1-900-LOG-LADY!

Valerie Nozick
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       I don't know if anyone has mentioned this,  but I think I know
what the R and T under the fingernails mean.  Could they stand for the
days of the week?   I know some calendars have a T for Tuesday and an
R for Thursday.  What gave me the idea was that during the previews for
the final show,  they flashed a big 'W' for the show being on Wednesday.
Wasn't Laura killed on Thursday night?  Anyone know what day of the week
the first girl was killed on.  Any thoughts?


-- Darren S. McGeary | Darren_McGeary@mts.rpi.edu | Ever have one of those lives???? Darren_McGeary@rpitsmts |

Yesterday my wife & I spent the afternoon and evening with
Scott Frost and Valerie West (Scott's wife, my cousin).  BTW,
Valerie provides some fun insight too, like ...

    "When Ben Horne and the new girl slid behind the curtain
    at One-Eyed Jack's Scott cracked up; he said there's
    nothing but a toilet behind that curtain!"


Anyway here's as much news as I can recall before coffee
this morning:


1.  After we talked about a number of theories about assorted things,
    not just who killed Laura, Scott said we can expect some
    surprises in episode 7.  It WILL bring closure to some threads
    of the plot, presumably starting with who killed Laura, but
    will also leave a foundation of questions to build on
    next season.

2.  Twin Peaks, pilot through #7, will rerun as a mini-series
    this summer.

3.  ABC has renewed for next season.  They're definitely
    committed to 13 episodes; they seem to have an option
    of sorts for an additional 7, but the status of additional
    episodes is less clear.

4.  The bearded guy in the negligee was the show's property
    manager.

5.  The rock-throwing scene was written by Mark Frost, and
    its shooting demonstrated the actors' almost superhuman
    ability to stay in character despite humorous circumstances.

This scene was shot in order, with Kyle MacLachlan
actually throwing the rocks; they didn't use a baseball
pitcher as a double.  In the early parts his throwing
had been "way out out of the strike zone", and apparently
he'd been taking a lot of ribbing about his throwing accuracy.

When they came to Leo, Kyle actually nailed the bottle
on the first try.  Everyone off camera cracked up and
was more or less rolling on the ground as soon as the
bottle broke.

Meanwhile, the actors stuck to the script as directed
and went into that dead serious bit that made such a
dramatic conclusion to the scene.  Finally, when Lynch
yelled "cut", they broke up and joined the delerium.

    So it's not just silly Lamas that produce the challenge
    of keeping a straight face.

6.  The interior scenes (most of the show) were shot in a
    warehouse in Van Nuys that they converted to a sound stage.

    ...and it looks like I'll get a chance to visit it before
    moving to Sacramento next month !!!

7.  Except, "Invitation to Love" was shot in one of the
    modestly famous local houses built by Frank Lloyd Wright.
    (Not Hollyhock house, the other famous one up in the Griffith
    Park area.  Somehow none of us could remember its name
    last night.)

    BTW, David Lynch lives in a house designed by Lloyd Wright,
    son of the famous architect.


----------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@isi.edu

On the tape that Laura left she referred to secrets
in connection with Jacoby's coconut.  Presumably this means
that the 1/2 heart that Jacoby kept there was given to him
by Laura.

That seems to mean that Jacoby didn't get his half by
digging it up in the woods.  So who's REALLY out there
lurking in the woods?


----------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@isi.edu

In article <25221@cs.yale.edu> jellinghaus-robert@yale.UUCP writes:
>> >>In the last scene at the gazebo we see that Maddie is being watched by 
>> >>someone (the camera has the watcher's eye view).  Now, my girlfriend and I
>> >>speculate that this unknown watcher is the killer (dramatic tension and all).
>> >>Therefore, if this is true, the killer cannot be any of the people who are 
>> >>shown in any of the above scenes.
> >
> >Umm, I don't know.  I think, for reasons given below, that things aren't so
> >simple.

And then I went and forgot to give the reasons I was thinking of!  Well,
here you go.

SPOILER WARNING:  this information comes from the Twin Peaks teaser 
commercial that's currently playing on ABC, which we saw last night while
watching "Voices Within:  The Lives of Truddi Chase" (don't ask).  Those 
who don't revel in sucking every nugget of information out of ABC's marrow
should hit n now.








(I wish I knew how to get an ^L in Emacs)










In the commercial, among other things, we see:

- A fire starting at the mill;
- Jacoby, in some bushes, reaching out towards the camera;
- Cooper opening his closet at the Great Northern, to see someone (we
  only see the person's lower half) who is wearing black clothing and
  leather gloves, and lowering a large gun at Cooper's midriff--Cooper
  looks nonplussed at this;
- Hank looking in a rusty mirror at some unknown location;
- the same shots of Audrey dealing and Leo's pickup surrounded by police
  that were in the previews at the end of last week's episode;
- and possibly some other stuff I missed because we haven't replayed
  the commercial 5 times yet.

Have fun!  I'll post again if I discover anything more.


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In article <265721a7.3741@petunia.CalPoly.EDU>, dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU 
(Dave Gross) writes (quoting from a newspaper article (?) about the future
of Twin Peaks):

Twin Peaks 101 -- Final Exam:
In 30 words or less, describe why Twin Peaks has been a success.

> > "We now know that a mystery format -- if it has personalities that are
> > interesting and somewhat quirky -- can succeed in both a children's and
> > an adult market," said Mark McPherson, speaking at a news conference for the
> > network.

Wrong.  Trick question -- it can't be done.  No points.

> > Bessie Clary, who has been in charge of coordinating the various
> > directors of this season's episodes, will be in charge of the new direction
> > Twin Peaks will be taking next season.  "We envision a more encapsulated
> > version of Twin Peaks -- with a single mystery being raised and solved each
> > show.  Of course the strange elements will still be there:  Lucy's remarks
> > and Cooper's personality -- but these will take backstage to a more easily
> > digestible plot."

Bleah.  Sounds dreadful.  Unfortunately, it's not in the least bit surprising.
It has always seemed that the primary qualification for a network programming 
position is the ability and willingness to, ultimately, force any show into
a standard-form, three-lines-or-less mold, regardless of how well it really
fits there.  The sorts of things that Twin Peaks has -- a non-trivial plot that
requires multiple episodes to resolve; clues/events presented such that their 
significance might take a few minutes, a few hours, or even a few days to sink
in, instead of being tube-fed to the audience point by agonizing point; 
characters that are complex and interesting, and don't always segregate well
into "good guys" and "bad guys"; high quality, non-mundane production values;
the attitude that a single show can be quirky and bizarre and obscure and funny 
and dramatic and horrifying and satirical and exciting and thought-provoking
and more, all at once; and so on (I could go on for a while, but I'm sure the
reader can fill in the rest for him/herself) -- these possibilities are utterly
alien to the folks in "TV-land".  (Due, perhaps, to the belief that such things
would overtax the short attention spans, limited mental capacities, and 
defective comprehensional abilities that they assume their viewers possess.) 
Clearly, the process of removing the above elements from Twin Peaks, of mashing
it into the mold, has begun.

I had retained some small shred of hope (mostly wishful thinking, really) that
Twin Peaks might survive the transformation to a weekly series with (much of)
its character intact.  Sadly, I think it'll be better off ending as it is.

> >                  [McPherson again]  "It's become a fad already.  We think it
> > will outlast the Simpsons.  Never underestimate the power of a cult following
> > with teens and pre-teens."

Translation: "Make up any other rule you want, but never overestimate the 
intelligence of your viewers."

---
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In article <1990May16.023933.5802@watcgl.waterloo.edu> gswan@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Geo Swan) writes:
> >
> >Many people have commented on dental records as a means of
> >identifying bodies.  I believe that dental records (presumably...

Dental records are usually used only if positive identification
cannot be made by someone who knew the deceased. As in an auto wreck
where the body was burned beyond recognition. If Leyland said "That's
Laura" then no one would think of checking her dental records, unless
they suspected that the identifier were lying.






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In article <UaJ5HxW00Vsn0=vHxL@andrew.cmu.edu> bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:
:
:I've heard a rumor that all of the Twin Peaks episodes (pilot through
:season fianle inclusive) will be rebroadcast over the summer in
:mini-series format.  Can anyone confirm or refute the truth of this
:claim?
:

My brother, who works for NBC, says ABC would be foolish *not* to
rerun the series this summer.  His reasoning:

   1) If they renew it for the fall, they will want to include in the
      possible viewing base all those who missed it the first time
      but were willing to catch it in the dog days of summer (viewing).

   2) If it is *not* renewed, running it again this summer will
      allow them to get a little more milage out of their production
      costs.

But since it has been renewed, you can be sure of it.-- 
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In article <13519@venera.isi.edu> raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) writes:
:
     (in  a discussion of the letter under the fingernail and whether
      Leland or Leo killed Laura)
:
:In this case something else happened.  Perhaps Laura managed
:to give Leo a knee to the groin and Jacques laughed; that might
:have provoked a fight either inside or outside of the cabin
:to account for that AB- blood.  Meanwhile Leland, who's been
:watching, does his psycho routine and becomes the real killer.
:

I agree that Lynch is sending us very strong signals about Leland, but I
suggest an alternative to the above.

Leland *does* witness something that makes him berserk. He does
something to Laura but he doesn't kill her.  He leaves the cabin.  Leo
or Jacques then kills her.

Remember how shocked Leland was in the pilot to hear Laura was dead?

Let's imagine that he knew he harmed her, but he didn't know she was
dead. His remorse, and his strange antics in every episode since
the pilot, have arisen from his mistaken belief that *he* killed her
(and, of course, it is a way to confuse the audience).-- 
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In article <35530@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> tj@cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) writes:
:

:A friend of mine owns a company that silk screens T-shirts.  Maybe
:I can convince him to make up a batch.  I wonder if enough of them
:would sell to make it worth his while, if the murder is solved
:next week.  I'd probably still wear one if just for the nostalgia
:value.
:
How about a T-shirt that says:
      
         Usenet knows who killed Laura Palmer
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suzy Marie Mercer suzy@tank.uchicago.edu ....!uunet!mimsy!oddjob!tank!suzy

In article <9391@tank.uchicago.edu> suzy@tank.uchicago.edu (Suzy Mercer) writes:
> >How about a T-shirt that says:
> >      
> >         Usenet knows who killed Laura Palmer
Which is similar to the TP joke going around here:

A robber walks into a bank and says to the teller:
"Give me all your money or I'll tell you who killed Laura Palmer."

In article <265721a7.3741@petunia.CalPoly.EDU>, dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:
> > Bessie Clary, who has been in charge of coordinating the various
> > directors of this season's episodes, will be in charge of the new direction
> > Twin Peaks will be taking next season.  "We envision a more encapsulated
> > version of Twin Peaks -- with a single mystery being raised and solved each
> > show.  Of course the strange elements will still be there:  Lucy's remarks
> > and Cooper's personality -- but these will take backstage to a more easily
> > digestible plot."

I pray that this does not happen since I will most likely stop watching it.
The beauty of Twin Peaks is that _all_ of the characters, the good and the bad
both, are three-dimensional and complete.  In an encapsulated format we could
not develop at all well the new people who might come along.  All reason to
watch will be gone.  Cooper and Lucy can only carry the show so far.

Personally I hope for a format more like _Wiseguy_, where the new characters are
developed over a season or so.  That will definately keep me coming back.

gene

Of course, you're probably going to see thousands of messages like
this, but I just saw it live, so that makes me the first.

On Donahue just now, Mr. Post (the exec producer) just indicated that
he was just informed that Twin Peaks has been renewed.

Not so surprisingly, he also said that several endings had been shot
and one would be picked for Wednesday's broadcast depending on whether
the show had been renewed or not.  Smart move.

The other interesting thing is that we will get to see "parts of"
Diane.  (maybe she's washing Cooper's little Elvis :-)

What a relief.  The show will be repeated during the summer.

To clarify, Lynch directed three of the 9 hours already shot,
including the pilot.

RE: Who is the heavy breather?

I thought is was Doc Jacoby's view, as he seemed to have figured out where the
Madeline/Laura videotape was taken.

Rob

In article <7508@ur-cc.UUCP> slhi@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Sarah L. Higley) writes:

> > I LOVE the way this show plays with the notion of the weird
> > "reconstruction."  We're constantly hearing things twice or three-times
> > removed.  The tape of the minah bird, for instance: we're hearing a
> > recording of an animal that is in itself a recording.  Add this to the
> > recent discussion of video-taping and we have yet another level...I'm
> > watching my record of a television record of a recording of a living
> > record....AAARGH!!


Actually, you can take this further.  We're watching a reconstruction
of your thoughts on a computer screen, which happens to be displaying
a copy of the words in your original article that my computer
reproduced after it got them from another computer that was instructed
to duplicate your words that are an interpretation of what you really 
thought!!!!

As my friend Charles Reardon once told me, "Life is just too cosmic to
be real, man."

hot off the press...

David Lynch's TV series, _Twin Peaks_, HAS been renewed for next season.

David Lynch's movie "Wild At Heart" today was awarded the Palme D'Or at the
Cannes film festival.

-- PRINCE prince@rpitsmts.bitnet prince@pawl.rpi.edu uunet!pawl.rpi.edu!prince "We are in a race between education and catastrophe." - Janet Jackson.

lyey@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

> >RE: Who is the heavy breather?

> >I thought is was Doc Jacoby's view, as he seemed to have figured out where the
> >Madeline/Laura videotape was taken.

> >Rob

I watched the episode again, and the heavy breather was watching Bobby
watch the trio while they called Jacoby. I think it has to be Leland.

Ron

I'm in the middle of watching a video-tape replay of the Phil Donahue
show with some of the TP folks. A couple of new-flash items, from Mark
Frost:

(1) The show has been picked up for the Fall.

(2) According to Frost, David Lynch *will* be back working on the show
next season, but how much depends on his schedule.

(3) The season finale was filmed with different endings depending on
whether the show would be picked up for the fall. The editor is now
hard at work putting the right ending on the episode. Let's hope he
doesn't make a mistake. :-)

["Cooper beats Truman for Sheriff's spot in a landslide election!"]

(4) The current nine hours will be re-run to lead into the fall season.

-- "I never use a pen. I write with a goose quill dipped in venom." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

There's been some discussion of the miraculous ability of the moon over
Twin Peaks to go from full to half overnight between the last two
episodes, and someone reported that it was basically a continuity
glitch resulting from the change in directors from show to show.  It
occurred to me, although I haven't been watching carefully enough to be
sure, that they seem to have been pretty sloppy all along.  After all,
it only takes about a week for the moon to go through one phase, and
there's a quite noticeable difference over a two-day span.  I seem to recall
someone mentioning a full moon showing up in the pilot, which
means that by the 5/10 episode it should have been approaching a waning
half moon.  But basically I think most people don't notice the moon
often enough to have a really intuitive grasp of the way it goes
through its paces.  That is, on any given day, most people have no idea
where the moon currently is in its phases, so whatever phase they see
that night will be equally unsurprising.

For my part I didn't notice the glitch.

As for the renewal, I agree with those who feel there's little hope
for the series to maintain its quality, especially given that the
episodes are supposed to be "more self-contained".  But even if
they weren't, I wouldn't expect too much.  To begin with, there's
the fundamental _Murder, She Wrote_ problem -- small towns, or even
fairly large towns (you get much larger than 50,000 and people
start calling you a small city) don't on a weekly basis have
mysterious murders that require the FBI and open up multiple scandals
among a cross section of the community.  I can believe weekly
adventures for small crime units in large cities, I can believe
weekly adventures for spacecraft on 5-year missions basically
seeking to have weekly adventures, and I can believe weekly humorous
incidents happening to well- or poorly-adjusted families.  (Well,
I may be using "believe" a little loosely here.)  But the events
in Twin Peaks have the feel of something that would stand out in
the local history of a town, not just another week in the lives of
a certain group of people.

And besides, you just can't expect the creative energy that shows up in
TP to be sustainable indefinately.  That is why even the best TV series
are, in my opinion, pretty bad.  They've gotta come out every week, 
and, considering that, a lot of them are pretty good.

I just got a call from someone who watched the "Donahue"
show today.  They told me that the cast of Twin Peaks
and David Lynch were on "Donahue" today.

Too bad I didn't tape this...

Did anyone else catch this?

Tom Jack
arpa:    taj@hpda.hp.com            
uucp:    (hplabs.sun.uunet)!hpda!taj

boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:


> >(3) The season finale was filmed with different endings depending on
> >whether the show would be picked up for the fall. The editor is now
> >hard at work putting the right ending on the episode. Let's hope he
> >doesn't make a mistake. :-)
Now, if each ending reveals a different killer, that makes three
different solutions, counting the one on the theatrical version
(released in Europe only).  I only hope the one we get to see makes
more sense than any of the solutions in *Clue*!

> >["Cooper beats Truman for Sheriff's spot in a landslide election!"]
I think they already planed for Cooper to live as a private citizin
in Twin Peaks.  There was a subtle suggestion in one of his little
voice memos.

> >(4) The current nine hours will be re-run to lead into the fall season.
And to allow some of us slower folks to figure out the plot details we
missed on the first try!

Twin Peaks is being followed religiously by a very large number
of my friends here in Santa Cruz.   We had the idea to
put together a costume party on the evening of the season
finale; everyone dresses and role-plays a character of their
chosing.  We're coordinating beforehand to avoid duplicate 
characters.  Donuts and coffee will be served.  We should have
cherry/huckleberry pie, brie, ice cream, cherry coke, etc...

Perhaps this idea is good enough that someone else out there 
might like it too, and put together their own costume party.
I'm going to be Leland. Send me mail about any ideas you might
have about lines I could use, or props such as bloodied pictures,
coffins...  :)   We have great ideas for other characters...

------------
Michael Kaye   horny@ucscb.ucsc.edu   Bursting my jeans for the good of mankind

> > In article <265721a7.3741@petunia.CalPoly.EDU>, dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:
>> > > Bessie Clary, who has been in charge of coordinating the various
>> > > directors of this season's episodes, will be in charge of the new direction
>> > > Twin Peaks will be taking next season.  "We envision a more encapsulated
>> > > version of Twin Peaks -- with a single mystery being raised and solved each
>> > > show.  Of course the strange elements will still be there:  Lucy's remarks
>> > > and Cooper's personality -- but these will take backstage to a more easily
>> > > digestible plot."

Why?  Why why why why?!?!?  I would **hate** to see Twin Peaks
relegated to the oatmeal that the rest of network TV has become.  It
is new and fresh -- why does the network insist on watering down
everything that is interesting???

If David Lynch has any sense, he'll tell ABC to $($* themselves and run
over to FOX as fast as he can.  Fox seems like the network that doesn't
try and tinker with the creator's vision of thier own shows.

--
*********************************************************
Laura Lemay                    lemay@sun.com
Redhead.  Drummer.  Geek.sun!lemay
*********************************************************

I think if you look closely at almost any TV show, you'll see a lot of
continuity mistakes, though few as glaring as the rapid orbit of the
moon on *Twin Peaks*.  When I first got a VCR, I briefly got interested
in doing "frame by frame" studies of screen acting (yeah, I know, nerdish
stuff -- comes from listening to Roger Ebert too much), and came accross
a lot of such strangeness:  objects magically appearing and disappearing
from people's hands; colors of clothes suddenly changing, etc.  It happens
in movies too.

This isn't because Twin Peaks has a lot of different directors.  They
typically have some flunkie whose sole job is to watch out for such mistakes.
But I think they crop up a lot more on TV because of the murderous schedules
under which TV shows are produced.

In article <265721a7.3741@petunia.CalPoly.EDU> dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:
> >
> >
> >TWIN PEAKS HERE TO STAY
> >Network execs find coffee-and-donuts crew captures a difficult age group
[...]
> >Bessie Clary, who has been in charge of coordinating the various
> >directors of this season's episodes, will be in charge of the new direction
> >Twin Peaks will be taking next season.  "We envision a more encapsulated
> >version of Twin Peaks -- with a single mystery being raised and solved each
> >show.  Of course the strange elements will still be there:  Lucy's remarks
> >and Cooper's personality -- but these will take backstage to a more easily
> >digestible plot."

Oh great, network pablum. I suppose it was predictable that network
executives would sink to the level of the crap they purvey. Well, at
least we had this season.

Disgusted,
Dave Mack

In article <13704@csli.Stanford.EDU> podlozny@csli.Stanford.EDU (Ann Podlozny) writes:
> >In <19153.2653c4cc@merrimack.edu> rand@merrimack.edu writes:
> >
> >
>> >>What's become of Bobby's cell mate Mike?
> >
> >
> >VERY good question.  Been wondering the same thing myself...

At the end of the scene where Bobby and Mike meet Leo in the woods,
as our two young heroes are zipping home to change their pants, Mike
says (approx.) "That's it, man! I'm done with this." And sure enough,
we never see him again.

Mike is a man of his word.

-- Dave Mack

For those that didn't see/tape it, some of the TP cast and Mark
Frost were on Donahue Monday, 5/21. The most interesting questions
were those answered by Frost, who I have to say looked almost
exactly like "Michael" on the Newhart show. Some of the following
might be considered a spoiler to next season, so be forewarned.

o The cast members on the show were the actors who play Norma,
  Catherine, Bobby, Shelly, Leo, and Laura/Madeleine. (Nope,
  no Audrey!)

o They took a poll on who (some of) the viewing public though the
  killer was:
31% - Jacoby
17% - Leo
11% - Jacques
11% - Bobby
 8% - James
 6% - (still alive)
 4% - Catherine
 4% - Ben
 3% - (suicide)
 3% - Leland
 1% - Cooper
 1% - Josie

o The day of the taping, Frost got word that ABC picked up the show
  for the Fall - to be on Saturdays at 10:00 pm.

o Lynch, who directed 3 of the 9 hours this season, will be back for
  more in the Fall. The 9 hours from this season will be rerun this
  Summer.

o There were different endings depending on whether the show was picked
  up for the Fall or not. Frost said he would "polish it off or not
  polish it off" depending upon renewal, and since the ABC announcment
  the post production people were "working feverishly to not polish
  it off" for the final episode this season.

o Frost said (no surprise) there were "quite a number of clues" in
  the Dream sequence. Nobody gave ANYTHING away, though.

o Frost made no apologies for the drawn out grief sequences. He said
  too many TV shows have violence and then cut to commercial, and that
  in the real world people have real and ongoing grief.

o Frost said we might learn the identity of the killer in the final
  episode this year, but we "should draw our own conclusions."

o We will see "various parts" of Diane in coming episodes.

--
Jim Morton, APPLiX Inc., Westboro, MA
...uunet!applix!jim    jim@applix.com

In article <13537@venera.ISI.EDU> raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) writes:
> >
> >On the tape that Laura left she referred to secrets
> >in connection with Jacoby's coconut.  Presumably this means
> >that the 1/2 heart that Jacoby kept there was given to him
> >by Laura.
> >
> >That seems to mean that Jacoby didn't get his half by
> >digging it up in the woods.  So who's REALLY out there
> >lurking in the woods?

I don't see the connection. The coconut is Jacoby's hiding place.
If I had to guess, I'd say he stashed his drugs there. Laura knew
about it because they'd done coke together (establishing a doctor-
patient relationship based on trust and mutual respect, so to speak.)
Now James and Donna know about it too, and they're going to find the
half-heart *and* Laura's last tape when they look in it.

My guess is, we'll finally get to hear the end of that tape. James is
not going to like it. 

-- Dave Mack

In article <11807@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >(3) The season finale was filmed with different endings depending on
> >whether the show would be picked up for the fall. The editor is now
> >hard at work putting the right ending on the episode. Let's hope he
> >doesn't make a mistake. :-)
> >
> >["Cooper beats Truman for Sheriff's spot in a landslide election!"]

Which means that the previews we've been seeing for the last few days
may have no relationship at all to what we finally see Wednesday
night.

Oh God, my aching blood pressure.

-- Dave Mack

More on the renewal... newspaper today says TP will air Saturdays at
10pm.  Sounds like a good choice.  China Beach also renewed and will run
immediately before.  I think my social life will take a hit this fall :-)

This article contains a theory (ahem) and a point of interest as well as
supporting possibilities.  It should be noted that the theory (which is,
according to its proponent, not a theory at all, but a statement of fact about
events) comes from the same person who came up with the "Two Lydecker Theory".
For what that's worth.

In the most recent episode (5/17), when Nadine is watching "Invitation to
Love", we see "Chet" shooting "Montana" as Nadine roots on.  When Chet is done
shooting Montana, we see him motion to the side of his face, with his left hand
reaching for a point just below his right ear.  My friend's (alias Killer
Ben's) theory is that he is about to remove a mask a la the classic mask
removal motion of Rollin Hand et al from the old "Mission: Impossible".  Close
examination of the scene in slow motion shows Chet's hand reaching for that
very point on his face, but no further evidence of mask removal.  What does
this mean?  Who knows, but there have been plenty of parallels between
Invitation to Love and the actual plotline, so these things may be of note.

1) In an earlier scene from ITL, Montana is seen beating up this guy Chet who
is seen shooting him in the aforementioned scene.  There is some sort of
parallel between Montana--Chet and Leo--Shelley, but I have no idea what it is
or if there is any significance to this at all.

2) In the scene later in the 5/17 episode in which Jacoby is also watching ITL,
we see Jade (?) being given a drink by someone wearing a leather jacket, saying
"Here's to old times".  Is this supposed to be Montana, who was just shot?  And
the other question:  is Jacoby watching live, or is he watching a videotape of
a previous episode?  And again, ditto the proviso in the above paragraph.

The other point of interest/theory/whatever-it-is is this:  when Cooper
announces that they are going undercover at One Eyed Jack's, he lets his
buddies know that there is $10,000 in bureau money to be played with here
in their act as high rolling oral surgeons.  The question is, where did this
money come from?  Granted, even though we never saw a shipment of cash arriving
from the bureau for Cooper's use, it *could* have come in without our seeing it
happen.  However, wasn't $10,000 precisely the amount of money found in Laura's
safe deposit box?  Seems might curious to me...
--
"I don't think what we're doing is wrong.""Why not?"
Rich Rosenrlr@toccata.rutgers.edu

In article <A&^$HW%@rpi.edu>, mcgeary@hope.its.rpi.edu (Darren S. McGeary) writes...

} I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but I think I know what the
} R and T under the fingernails mean. Could they stand for the days of
} the week? I know some calendars have a T for Tuesday and an R for
} Thursday.

It's possible. In the European version, they were letters from the killer's
name, Robert. But since the series here isn't necessarily going to be
resolved in the same way, the letters may mean something else.

} Wasn't Laura killed on Thursday night?

Yes. Though, it actually happened after midnight, so one could say it was
on Friday.

} Anyone know what day of the week the first girl was killed on.

No, it was never said. The only time reference to Theresa Banks' murder
was Cooper's saying that it occurred "a year ago almost to the day".

-- "I never use a pen. I write with a goose quill dipped in venom." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <15515@bfmny0.UU.NET>, tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) writes...

} My personal decision hinges on Lynch.  If he is involved at a level more
} detailed than executive producer or "created by," I will watch, but if
} he deserts the new format so will I.

According to Mark Frost, Lynch will do as much writing and/or directing
as his schedule permits.

-- "I never use a pen. I write with a goose quill dipped in venom." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <13537@venera.ISI.EDU>, raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) writes...

} On the tape that Laura left she referred to secrets in connection
} with Jacoby's coconut. Presumably this means that the 1/2 heart
} that Jacoby kept there was given to him by Laura.

Why?  All it tells us is that she knows that the coconut is Jacoby's
hiding place.

} That seems to mean that Jacoby didn't get his half by digging it up
} in the woods.

Except that the necklace he has had the same leather "chain" as the one
that James and Donna buried.

Boy, are *they* gonna be surprised when they open the coconut expecting
to find the missing tape and find the necklace instead!

-- "I never use a pen. I write with a goose quill dipped in venom." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <May.21.17.34.39.1990.12053@revenge.rutgers.edu> trudel@revenge.rutgers.edu (Jonathan D.) writes:
> >On Donahue just now, Mr. Post (the exec producer) just indicated that
> >he was just informed that Twin Peaks has been renewed.


Today, Monday the 21st, I tuned into Donahue on my local channel,
channel 3 which services the Sacramento Valley, CA, but no Twin
Peaks cast.  In its place was a show on racism.  Did anyone else
have this same problem? Is the station which Donahue is shown here
behind a day or more? Is there a chance that someone could help
me by giving me an indication when the TP episode of Donahue might
be on--I am in the middle of final papers and thus not able to
check everyday for myself?

POSSIBLE SPOILER concerning last week's preview of the season finale.



Okay much of what was shown were scenes from past episodes, but the
last scene, the car chase definetly was new.  Looking at the scene
I see someone who appears to be wearing an orange shirt; whoever
it was was getting out of a big car, a cad or continental, when
he/she is surrounded by squad cars.  So I looked back to see who
was wearing orange, but could not find anyone, the closest person
was Donna. Also interesting is that Coop and Ed are the ones with
the big car, a new cad for their One-Eyed Jacks sojourn.
Did anyone notice this? Was anyone able to pick
out who it might be? And is this just a false clue, and the
person being aprehended is not the murder, but envolved in one
of the other numerous sem-illegal activities?



As for Leland, was I the only one who thought it was strange
that in the pilot, when HST came by to tell about Laura, that
he immediately assumed that she was dead; he did ask if she
was hurt, and how bad. Seems to me people first assume that
one is possibly badly hurt, but not dead for they do not want
to admit the worse, hoping it is not true.  Maybe Leland then
is envovled. Either the incest theory is true, or (I lean 
toward this theory) that to be apart of Ben's elite group
he sacrificed his daughter to him as a plaything--though
a little of both could be true.  I doubt he actually killed
her, but her death was not a complete shock to him, her
dying had always been a possiblity as a result of her 
lifestyle, a style impossed upon her by him.

Also, the scene where Leland dances around with Laura's pic
has always bothered me.  I might be completely loony, but
it seems to me that it is Mrs. Palmer whose hand is actually
cut when the glass protecting the picture breaks; Leland
then rubs his hands on hers, bloodying his hands too, and
then he proceeds to wipe the blood onto Laura's pic.
Another possiblity is that they both cut their hands, but it
was Leland who wiped the blood on the pic.  Can anyone
possitively confirm or deny this.  Can someone re-check
and see if this is true before flaming me for being 
totally out of the ballpark.  If I am right then that could
change a lot, that either it is Mrs. Palmer who is
the one with the blooded hands, and Leland is innocent,
or they both are guilty, but she more than he.  Someone
posted that she could be some sort of a Lady MacBeth,
if the way I saw the scene is right then this theory
might be correct too.  She is a Lady MacBeth who 
conviced her husband to engage in something, possibly an
involvment with the Horne's which resulted in Laura's 
association with them, an association which Leland believes
caused her death, hence his behavior.

It seems to me that Laura is a personification of Twin Peaks.
Just like within her corpse there are numerous secrets to
be discovered not only of her death but many others concerning
the town, within each episode of the show there are to be
found numerous clues which point to the murder, yet which also
point to the various goings on in the town. 


Wednesday morning, off to buy donuts and start brewing my
coffee, TP that night at 10.

sally

In article <35547@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> kan@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Jim Kan) writes:
> >But here's a couple things I found curious, as to casting.  Whatever.  What I
> >really want to know is, wasn't the youngest daughter on the lamentable
> >"Gimme a Break" named Lara Flynn?  As in "Lara Flynn Boyle" (Donna)?  Also
> >gondola bob c/o kan@cs.ucla.edu

Yep- same person- a bit more grown up...

RON. (blowfish@carina.unm.edu!ariel.unm.edu)
"I've got compassion running out of my nose, pal. I'm the Sultan of Sentiment."

In article <136066@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> lemay@lorelei.Eng.Sun.COM (Laura Lemay - Lone Tech Writer of the Apocalypse) writes:

> >Why?  Why why why why?!?!?  I would **hate** to see Twin Peaks
> >relegated to the oatmeal that the rest of network TV has become.  It
> >is new and fresh -- why does the network insist on watering down
> >everything that is interesting???
> >
> >If David Lynch has any sense, he'll tell ABC to $($* themselves and run
> >over to FOX as fast as he can.  Fox seems like the network that doesn't
> >try and tinker with the creator's vision of thier own shows.

Or better yet .. over to PBS. They positively enjoy and encourage quality
shows with plots that take more than an hour to resolve. Not only that but
you can actually put in close to an hour of plot instead of 45 minutes for
each episode.

I think it was NPR's TV critic who first put me onto Twin Peaks about a week
before the first broadcast by saying "Twin Peaks is the most innovative and
interesting show since The Singing Detective!". High praise indeed. 

Twin Peaks will be very uninteresting if folded, spindled and mutilated into
the standard commercial format. It might survive if they continue to have
the plot spread over several episodes. For example like the PBS Mystery
series.

-- Stuart.Lynne@wimsey.bc.ca ubc-cs!van-bc!sl 604-937-7532(voice) 604-939-4768(fax)

In article <1990May22.065007.1012@agate.berkeley.edu>, sally@eris.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson) writes...

} Today, Monday the 21st, I tuned into Donahue on my local channel, channel
} 3 which services the Sacramento Valley, CA, but no Twin Peaks cast.  In
} its place was a show on racism.  Did anyone else have this same problem?
} Is the station which Donahue is shown here behind a day or more?

Possibly. In the Boston area, there are (at least) two stations that
carry Donahue, on ein the late morning, one in the late afternoon. The
morning one was not with the TP cast (don't recall what the topic was),
but the afternoon one was.

} Okay much of what was shown were scenes from past episodes, but the
} last scene, the car chase definetly was new.  Looking at the scene
} I see someone who appears to be wearing an orange shirt; whoever
} it was was getting out of a big car, a cad or continental, when
} he/she is surrounded by squad cars.

Hunh?  To me, it looked like Leo's pick-up truck that the squad cars
are surrounding.

} And is this just a false clue, and the person being aprehended is not
} the murder, but envolved in one of the other numerous sem-illegal
} activities?

That depends. What makes you think the scene is supposed to be a clue?
And what makes you think that the person being apprehended is Laura's
murderer?  Remember, one of the basic built-in elements of previews is
misdirection (just take a look at the discussion about the blood on the
donuts).

Now, as long as we're talking about the "apprehension" scene in the
previews... The last shot shows Harry walking toward the camera. In
the background, we see Deputy Andy standing with his gun drawn and
pointed in the same direction. It's probably just my imagination, and
he's taking aim on whoever the quarry is, but it also looks as if maybe
he's pointing at Harry's back. Definitely gave me an ominous chill.

} As for Leland, was I the only one who thought it was strange that in
} the pilot, when HST came by to tell about Laura, that he immediately
} assumed that she was dead [...]

Well, so did his wife. Does that mean that she was in on it, too?  Hell,
she was even "worse" than Leland. The minute Leland said that Truman was
there, she went into hysterics.

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barr@Apple.COM (Ron Barr) writes:
> > lyey@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
> >
>> > >I thought is was Doc Jacoby's view, as he seemed to have figured
>> > >out where the
>> > >Madeline/Laura videotape was taken.
> > 
> > I watched the episode again, and the heavy breather was watching Bobby
> > watch the trio while they called Jacoby. I think it has to be Leland.

Don't be so sure; I'm sure *I'm* not sure.  It could easily be Leo, as
well.  Picture this:  Bobby follows James, looking for an opportunity
to frame him.  Leo follows Bobby, looking for an opportunity to kill
him.  Leo spots "Laura," and suddenly his plans change; killing Bobby
can wait, so he sticks around after Bobby leaves to check out "Laura,"
who he's sure was dead.

Then again, it could be Leland.  If it's Leland, the plot takes an
interesting new twist.  If it's Leo, it's just the same old
trouble-making Leo.  I guess let's hope it's Leland (or Killer Bob!).

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I tried posting this once before but I don't think it made it out so
my apologies if you get it twice.

In the movie "One Eye'd Jacks" Marlon Brando and Karl Malden play two
outlaws who rob a bank and get stranded out in the desert.  Malden
deserts Brando who spends several years in jail, and then escapes to
seek revenge.  He (Brando) tracks Malden down to this small town where
Malden has managed to hide his past and become sheriff.  The term "One
Eye'd Jacks" refers to hypocrites who act noble and good but are
really corrupt, and applies to Malden in the movie.

Others on the net have noted the allusions to films in Twin Peaks but
as far as I can recall this is the only movie that any character in
the show mentions explicitly (Donna in her conversation with Audrey in
the women's room of the high school), and it suggests some interesting
parallels.  Can Truman be hiding something?  Could he be connected to
Hank somehow?  Such movie allusions should not be taken in a strictly
literal or schematic way and I don't think that Sheriff Truman killed
Laura Palmer, but the scene in the 5/17 episode where he confronts
Hank in the diner and later tells Cooper something to the effect that
"I don't believe people can change." resonates very strongly with the
movie. 
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In article <412@van-bc.UUCP> sl@van-bc.UUCP (Stuart Lynne) writes:
> >
> >I think it was NPR's TV critic who first put me onto Twin Peaks about a week
> >before the first broadcast by saying "Twin Peaks is the most innovative and
> >interesting show since The Singing Detective!". High praise indeed. 
> >
I share that critic's opinion.  The Singing Detective was a fascinating series
with delicious mixtures of high and black comedy.  The scene in which Marlowe
lies in the hospital bed while doctors and nurses sing "Dem Bones" is at the
pinnacle of surrealistic comedy.  But then, SD would never make it to
commercial TV (it did in Europe, but that's another matter).  TP in many
ways is one of the finest shows to appear on commercial TV.  And before
SD and TP, you might have to go all the way back to Brideshead Revisited
for a show of comparable quality.
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Minor Spoiler Alert***********
 







According to the Philadelphia Inquirer TV weekly Josie has a huge
past and a detective from Hong Kong will arrive on the 5/23
show following her trail.  Perhaps this was the oriental man
we saw Audrey pass in the hall on 5/17.

Frankly, I would have been willing to buy Josie as a white hat
except for the opening shot of the pilot.  It's been bothering
me through the whole series.  She just did not look as if she
was pure as the driven snow.  I haven't decided yet whether
she's involved in Laura's death, but she's definately involved
in something as well as putting one over on HST.

In article <GA^$CB*@rpi.edu> prince@pawl.rpi.edu (prince) writes:
> >hot off the press...
> >David Lynch's movie "Wild At Heart" today was awarded the Palme D'Or at the
> >Cannes film festival.

Now for the bad news - "Wild At Heart" will be substantially cut for 
showing in the U.S.  David Lynch has a contractual obligation to deliver a
film with an R rating, and has every intention of doing so.  But no one who
has seen "Wild At Heart" thinks it has a hope in hell of getting an R rating
in its current form.  It's got a triple whammy against it - lots of sex,
lots of violence, lots of profanity.  Therefore, almost no one in the U.S.
will be able to see it in the form Lynch intended, at least until it comes
out on videocassette.  And, of course, one can argue that videocassette isn't
the form Lynch intended, either.  Let's have a rousing three cheers for that
consortium of the MPAA, censorious bluenoses, and timid newspapers, studios,
and theater owners who work so hard to protect us from ourselves.

Peter Reiher
reiher@onyx.jpl.nasa.gov
. . . cit-vax!elroy!jato!jade!reiher

In article <9389@tank.uchicago.edu> suzy@tank.uchicago.edu (Suzy Mercer) writes:
> >In article <UaJ5HxW00Vsn0=vHxL@andrew.cmu.edu> bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:
> >
> >[discussion on renewing TP deleted]

Just heard on the radio this morning (5/22 about 6:30 AM PST) that
ABC IS bringing TP back in September.  But did we ever doubt it ???
--

In article <May.21.17.34.39.1990.12053@revenge.rutgers.edu>,
trudel@revenge.rutgers.edu (Jonathan D.) says:

> >What a relief.  The show will be repeated during the summer.

Huh??  What a disaster is more like it.  Why is it a relief to
have the most original TV show in years converted into some
exec's pabulum formula?  Let it die with honor.  Next up:
real life dramas by Lynch on Fox.  Now we begin again.

--                                                      ele@psuvm.psu.edu
jeremy..                                        crampton@yon.geog.psu.edu

In article <3658@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, horny@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Michael Kaye) says:
> >
> >Twin Peaks is being followed religiously by a very large number
> >of my friends here in Santa Cruz.   We had the idea to
> >put together a costume party on the evening of the season
> >finale; everyone dresses and role-plays a character of their
> >chosing.

Ghod, these trekkies get everywhere don't they.  Pass the Raid.

--                                                      ele@psuvm.psu.edu
jeremy..                                        crampton@yon.geog.psu.edu

Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks: 22-May-90 Re: Necklace &
coconut Dave Mack@alembic.acs.co (910)

> > My guess is, we'll finally get to hear the end of that tape. James is
> > not going to like it. 

Could someone please refresh my memory and tell me what we've already
heard on Jacoby's tape?  I remember the scene of Jacoby listening to it,
but that was way back before I was hooked, and I didn't pay close enough
attention, and I never got a chance to return to that scene.

Thanks in advance.

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Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks: 22-May-90 Re: David Lynch news
[twin .. Peter Reiher@onyx.jpl.na (1093)

> > Let's have a rousing three cheers for that
> > consortium of the MPAA, censorious bluenoses, and timid newspapers, studios,
> > and theater owners who work so hard to protect us from ourselves.

Peter, as clear as the signs on the highway, the time for revolution is now.

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In article <35530@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU>, tj@cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) writes:
> > 
>> > >From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>> > >
>>> > >>Well, I can see the marketting people aren't missing the boat when it comes
>>> > >>to Twin Peaks -- especially up here in the Great Pacific Northwest.
>>> > >>Wandering down the street last night when I saw a T-shirt with "I Killed
>>> > >>Laura Palmer" on it.  (Gotta get one of those puppies...)  (Suddenly, I get
> > 
> > 
> > A friend of mine owns a company that silk screens T-shirts.  Maybe
> > I can convince him to make up a batch. ...

The Twin Peaks folks are getting moving on marketing
some stuff, I suppose by licensing use of names, logos,
assorted images, & such.  I'm not aware of details, but
it seems like there should be no shortage of great lines
for T shirts.

My favorite would be a coffee mug like Cooper was using
at the sheriff's station.


----------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@isi.edu

In article <4124.2658284e@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>,
lyey@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
> > RE: Who is the heavy breather?
> > 
> > I thought is was Doc Jacoby's view, as he seemed to have figured out
where the
> > Madeline/Laura videotape was taken.
> > 
> > Rob

No, no, no!  We hear the heavy breather and see his viewpoint BEFORE
Jacoby even leaves his pad!

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* Institute for the Learning Sciences, Northwestern University *
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You were warned... (pseudo ^L here...)































SPOILER

see, I told you there was a spoiler!

Seriously folks, isn't this getting a little silly...people
making their guess about who killed Laura and calling that
a SPOILER??  You don't spoil it for anybody if you're just
guessing/inducting the killer!

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* Institute for the Learning Sciences, Northwestern University *
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In article <3770@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> reiher@onyx.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Peter Reiher) writes:
<In article <GA^$CB*@rpi.edu> prince@pawl.rpi.edu (prince) writes:
<>hot off the press...
<>David Lynch's movie "Wild At Heart" today was awarded the Palme D'Or at the
<>Cannes film festival.
<
<Now for the bad news - "Wild At Heart" will be substantially cut for 
<showing in the U.S.  David Lynch has a contractual obligation to deliver a
<film with an R rating, and has every intention of doing so.  But no one who
<has seen "Wild At Heart" thinks it has a hope in hell of getting an R rating
<in its current form.  It's got a triple whammy against it - lots of sex,
<lots of violence, lots of profanity.

Can't they release both versions (like "Caligula")?  The wide
'R' release and the 'X' (or simply unrated) for the repertory/art houses?

Jan BielawskiInternet:jbielawski@ucsd.edu
Bitnet:jbielawski@ucsd.bitnet
Dept. of MathUUCP:jbielawski@ucsd.uucp
UCSD  ( {ucsd,sdcsvax}!{igrad1,sdcc6}!ma299ai )

Why is everyone missing the obvious??
WALDO killed her!
Obviously in cahoots with the owls. (Pun not un-intended).
Leo (white hat) didn't kill the bird, he EXECUTED it.

Along the lines of homage to film-noir, does anyone else expect that
Ben Horne will turn up trying to corner all the water rights in
the Pacific Northwest, ala "Chinatown"? Note: this is very difficult,
kids, do not try this at home.

"I don't like birds." -- Dale Cooper

In article <90142.114501ELE@psuvm.psu.edu> ELE@psuvm.psu.edu (Jeremy Crampton) writes:
>> > >What a relief.  The show will be repeated during the summer.

> > Huh??  What a disaster is more like it.  Why is it a relief to
> > have the most original TV show in years converted into some
> > exec's pabulum formula? 

Huh, yourself, bub.  I did not see the articles about changing the
format of the show until after I posted my response.  

Snide, uninformed comments like yours aren't helpful.

   Several Points.

   First, In the 1944 film "Laura," a young woman named Laura is suppossedly
murdered.  The detective falls in love with the dead woman. However, it turns
out that a double of the woman is murdered, and Laura is really alive.  The
killer turns out to be Waldo Lydecker.  In TP, the vet is Lydecker, the Myna
bird is Waldo.  Is Madeline Laura?  

  Next, I am tired of these outlandish theories regarding Laura's killer.  
Let's look  at the suspects.

  The least likely are as follows:  Leland(he may have committed incest, but
he's no killer.), Catherine and Tom Martell(may be an unhappy couple, but 
neither are killers of Laura--Catherine may have plotted to kill Jocie, but I
don't think she killed Laura.), Dr. Jacoby(He is the only one who truly loved
Laura for her real self; everyone else loved the illusion of Laura, not Laura),
James(He's too sickeningly good to have done it--same goes for Donna.),
Cooper(He's innocent because he signed a five year contract.), Audrey(Killing
is not eccentric enough for her.)

  The most likely are as follows:  Bobby Briggs(Remember that in Cooper's dream,
that "Robert" killed Laura.), Norma's ex-con Husband(He makes Leo look like an
annoying kindergartener.), Norma(Her beauty masks hidden viciousness.), Leo(The
only way he would have killed Laura is if someone ordered him to do so.), Ben
Horne(Remember, Laura worked at his dept store as well as One-eyed Jack's.),
Sherrif Truman(Is he as really innocent as he seems?), Naidine(She's far from
being as kooky as she seems.), Josie--My favorite Suspect(She began as an 
innocent beauty; now, we learn that not only is she the lover of Ben Horne and
Jennings, but she is plotting to kill Catherine.  It would be the ultimate
joke on the viewer, to have begun her as the heroine, and to have ended her
as the killer.)

   In the future, please do not rely on Cooper's intuition to solve the crime,
please think before you write these ill-thought theories.

Tim Smith
(and Sean McIntyre typing)

For those of you watching VH-1 on Monday the 21st, their "New Visions:
Rock" segment featured a performance by Julee Cruise. She sang a song
called "Up In Flames" which is NOT available on her album "Floating Into
The Night". Does anybody know if this music is available elsewhere? As
the flipside to one of her singles (if she has any)? In any event, it
was a pretty good song -- and the ending keyboard melodies were right out
of "Twin Peaks," specifically the music to which Audrey was dancing at
the Cafe. No, it wasn't Angelo Badalamenti at the keyboards, either; just
the "VH-1 House Band". Super.

Also, bad news for "Wild At Heart," even though it won top honors at
Cannes: David Lynch is contractually obliged to edit certain scenes out
of the film to achieve an "R" rating here in the states, should the
MPAA object to any of the material in the film, which the director doesn't
doubt. As quoted from the San Francisco Chronicle, Lynch says, "This is
not a landmark film" when referring to a possible change in the Ratings
System to allow for a non-X Adults Only Rating. Whatever the case, it'll
be out in August, no doubt with a few snippets of sex and violence taken
away. Too bad, but so much for artistic integrity in Hollywood.

As far as renewal of "Twin Peaks" is concerned, I disagree that an en-
capsulated format would in the long run be more satisfying than a soap
opera. There are well over 30 somewhat major characters (and a slew of
minor ones) with their own secrets and histories to be revealed on the
show. While admitting that it would seem a tad implausible to keep
coming up with grisly crimes to solve (if you think that would be a
problem with a soap opera format, imagine the difficulty if they ended
up resorting to a "Murder, She Wrote" one!), there are many many direct-
ions the show could take. All it takes is a little imagination; I'm sure
that a good plot swing could involve the already very real issue of
Californians migrating to Washington and buying all the available houses.
There's a big gripe about that amongst Washingtonians right now, and
certainly some Twin Peaks nasties could get involved in real estate
swindles with the wealthy folk down the coast.

                                  -Uzer

There is only one Lydecker, his name is Bob.

We are told this at the "shootout at the rusticated mildew farm", when
Mike the one-armed shoe salesman says (and I paraquote) "Bob Lydecker's
just about the best veterinarian in these parts".

Any theory about how Laura died has to take into account the second set
of twine bindings and the railroad car.  We don't *know* where she died,
but it's not as simple as bad-guy-enters-cabin-kills-Laura-disposes-of-body.
Not much blood was found at the cabin -- she died from loss of blood --
and there's a trip to a railroad car yet to be accounted for.  Lack of blood
in the cabin leads me to believe Laura was alive when she was taken to
the railroad car.  (Though you could fashion a careful murder in the cabin
followed by corpse-play at the railroad car; just not my preferred theory).

I do like the theory that a Flesh World reader did the killing.  That way
the previous (Teresa Banks) murder fits in with Laura's death and we don't
have to sit through an oddball explanation about someone being out of town.
Plus it would be odd to kill somebody far away, *then* close to yourself.

Whatever happened to Harriet, Donna's younger sister?  Did she run off with
Mike, Donna's former boyfriend?

John (opinions my own, except it is a FACT that there is no "a" in "definitely")

> >TWIN PEAKS HERE TO STAY
> >Network execs find coffee-and-donuts crew captures a difficult age group

The above article was a hoax.  Forget it.  It's not true.  Ignore, please...

> >Early suggestions are that Twin Peaks will have a format very similar
> >to Father Dowling Mysteries or Murder She Wrote but with just enough of the
> >macabre touch initiated by David Lynch to maintain the interest of the younger
> >viewers.

But I did manage to cause widespread panic, now, didn't I?

> >Rumors have even been flying that consultants from Caspary & Sklar
> >(the company that handled the licensing of "Beetlejuice" models and action
> >figures) have been contacted to discuss marketing a line of Peaks-related
> >odds and ends.

You even believed this...  Jeez.  Imagine little Dale Cooper and Leo Johnson
action figures.  Twin Peaks cereal...

Sorry for frightening everyone so.  I just thought that an exaggeration of
all of our worst fears might provide a few laughs.  I hope I didn't turn you
all off to the next season...


-- ************************ dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU **************************** "Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic."

Yes, on CNN at noon today, Lynch was quoted that it would be cut
for the US market.  Too bad.  How much worse than Blue Velvet could
it be?  BTW, was that movie ever released in a R version?

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Yo!  Dig what mbarnett@cs.utexas.edu (Michael Barnett) sez:
-In article <1745@engage.enet.dec.com> rosch@cpdw.enet.dec.com (Ray Rosch) writes:
->The murder has been established as occuring on or about the 24th. of 
->February.
->
->Twin Peaks has been established to be very near the Canadian border, 
->probably in Washington State.
->Question - Why no snow on the ground? 
-
-this would help in placing twin peaks near the western edge of washington.
-since washington is next to the ocean, it is in fact relatively rare for
-there to be snow at all. (i'm talking about the strip containing bellingham,
-seattle, tacoma, etc.) in seattle, it snows maybe once a year, and then
-melts within a few days at most. the eastern edge of washington gets quite
-a bit of snow during the winter.

In that case, where are they getting all those clear nights?  My guess 
is that if it's Washington, it *has* to be the eastern border, but more
likely this whole thing takes place in Idaho.  Well, a proverbial Idaho,
since the scenery doesn't match up with the given location.

-- David Bedno aka dave@sco.COM: Speaking from but not for SCO. " ... whatever the collective wisdom of the net dictates is the best solution for this week will be fine with us." - doug@sco.COM

In article <26599606.1efd@petunia.CalPoly.EDU> dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:
> >Sorry for frightening everyone so.  I just thought that an exaggeration of
> >all of our worst fears might provide a few laughs.  I hope I didn't turn you
> >all off to the next season...

The problem is, nothing is too exaggerated to be impossible in the
world of commercial tv.

Though the statements seem preposterous, they were all perfectly
believable as something tv people would say.

If you intended to fool us and give people a miserable 24 hours, be
happy; you succeeded.  If you did want to share a funny story and give
us all a few laughs, as you say, you failed miserably.  You should have
said THIS IS FICTION, if you really didn't want to be taken seriously.
Read your article again; we see more preposterous press releases from
the tv networks every day, and they're all, alas real.

Jon

dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:
> >The above article was a hoax.  Forget it.  It's not true.  Ignore, please...

I swallowed this story hook, line and sinker.  Everything in the "hoax"
message will probably come to pass, though.

If they "renew" TP, what kind of soap-opera plot gimmick will they use to
keep Agent Cooper in town?  Will "Sheriff" Cooper wake up and realize
that it was only a fantastic dream that he was F.B.I agent?

I plan on watching Twin Peaks exactly once more: tomorrow night.  I bought
into this thinking it was a miniseries (as the pre-release reviews I read
back in March led me to believe).

dale wyttenbach
wytten@cs.umn.edu

In article <26599606.1efd@petunia.CalPoly.EDU> dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:
>> >>TWIN PEAKS HERE TO STAY
>> >>Network execs find coffee-and-donuts crew captures a difficult age group
> >The above article was a hoax.  Forget it.  It's not true.  Ignore, please...
> >*********************** dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU ****************************

The biggest problem is, though, that is the way tv execs seem to think. It is 
not beyond imagination to see them turning TP into a arketing dream...


rON. (blowfish@carina.unm.edu!ariel.unm.edu)
"I've got compassion running out of my nose, pal. I'm the Sultan of Sentiment."

dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:
>> > >TWIN PEAKS HERE TO STAY
>> > >Network execs find coffee-and-donuts crew captures a difficult age group
> > 
> > The above article was a hoax.  Forget it.  It's not true.  Ignore, please...
> > 
>> > >       Early suggestions are that Twin Peaks will have a format very similar
>> > >to Father Dowling Mysteries or Murder She Wrote but with just enough of the
>> > >macabre touch initiated by David Lynch to maintain the interest of the
>> > >younger viewers.
> > 
> > But I did manage to cause widespread panic, now, didn't I?

Diane, I've just arrived at the Great Western Hotel to investigate the
murder of Dave Gross.  It follows ten years almost to the day the
murder of the young man who prematurely leaked the information that
Darth Vader really *was* Luke's father...

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In article <11400@sun.udel.edu>, conrad@sun.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:
 
> > In article <26599606.1efd@petunia.CalPoly.EDU> dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes:
>> > >Sorry for frightening everyone so.  I just thought that an exaggeration of
>> > >all of our worst fears might provide a few laughs.  I hope I didn't turn you
>> > >all off to the next season...
 
> > The problem is, nothing is too exaggerated to be impossible in the
> > world of commercial tv.

> > Though the statements seem preposterous, they were all perfectly
> > believable as something tv people would say.
 
> > If you intended to fool us and give people a miserable 24 hours, be
> > happy; you succeeded.  If you did want to share a funny story and give
> > us all a few laughs, as you say, you failed miserably.  You should have
> > said THIS IS FICTION, if you really didn't want to be taken seriously.
> > Read your article again; we see more preposterous press releases from
> > the tv networks every day, and they're all, alas real.

I agree.  I wonder how many scathing letters ABC will receive from 
alt.tv.twin-peaks readers, protesting "Bessie Clary's" plan to 
eviscerate Twin Peaks.  "Nice thanks we get for renewing their damn 
show," they'll probably exclaim, "and who the hell is Bessie Clary?"

Not funny, Mr. Gross.

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Here is a draft of a summary I've been writing of Twin Peaks.  It is
intended for those who have not been following the story but who wish
to view the season finale tomorrow (Wednesday) night at 10 (and wish
to know what the *hell* is going on).  There is one major section left
for me to write in this summary (the section on clues that have been
accumulated so far), but there should be plenty of useful information
in here without it.  I'm sending this incomplete draft because a
complete version might not be available in time for some of you.



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This is a summary of Twin Peaks (the story so far), intended to allow
Twin Peaks virgins to enjoy this week's season finale (Wednesday, 10
PM, ABC).


       SETTING

    Laura Palmer, Twin Peaks' local high school homecoming queen, has
    been murdered under bizarre circumstances.  Some aspects of the
    murder resemble the (unsolved) murder of another girl, Teresa
    Banks, a year earlier in a different corner of the state
    (Washington).  Another girl, Ronette Pulaski, attacked in the same
    incident as Laura, survived and escaped, crossing state lines in
    the process.  She is now in a coma from her injuries and
    psychological trauma, but by crossing state lines she has enabled
    the FBI, in the person of Dale Cooper, to investigate the case.


      CHARACTERS

FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper

    Agent Cooper is a wide-eyed, gee-whiz, little-boy-at-heart,
    by-the-book investigator with strong intuitions and strong faith
    in them.  He is never too busy to stop for a good cup of coffee or
    a donut.  He loves pie.  He has been enamored of the town of Twin
    Peaks since his arrival, despite the macabre circumstances under
    which he came.  The birds, the Douglas firs, the hospitality all
    appeal to him.  He has often astounded Sheriff Truman, with whom
    he has been working closely on the Palmer case, by his unorthodox
    but successful approach to detective work.  He places trust in his
    dreams and in Tibetan mysticism, as well as in more conventional
    clues.  When we last left Cooper, he and some of the ``Bookhouse
    Boys'' have left their legal jurisdiction to check out One-Eyed
    Jack's, the brothel/casino across the Canadian border where
    Jacques Renault deals blackjack (and where Laura and Ronette
    probably worked as ``hospitality girls'').

``Diane''

    Presumably Cooper's secretary, whom we never see, but to whom
    Cooper constantly tape-records observations, comments, and
    requests on his hand-held, voice-activated tape recorder.

Sheriff Harry S. Truman

    Twin Peaks' local sheriff has been glad of Dale Cooper's help, and
    admires Cooper's quirkiness and intuitive approach to detection.
    Shortly after they first met, Cooper, citing ``body language,''
    was able to deduce Harry's love affair with Josie Packard.  Truman
    is a good-humored, no-nonsense cop who doesn't mind being
    frequently upstaged by Cooper's superior powers of observation.

Deputy Andy Brennan

    Andy, the ``crying deputy,'' is a sensitive man who was deeply
    disturbed by the news of Laura's death.  While adept at routine
    police procedure, Andy becomes nervous and clumsy when called upon
    to draw a weapon or perform other hazardous duties.  Like most
    others, he admires Agent Cooper.  He has recently been getting the
    cold shoulder from Lucy, his girlfriend (another relationship
    which Cooper deduced from body language), and doesn't know why.

Deputy Tommy (``Hawk'') Hill

    An efficient but sometimes enigmatic cop with strong American
    Indian roots.  He is an expert tracker and marksman, and his
    professionalism belies his occasional forays into poetry and
    sentimentality.  He recited a particularly touching love poem to
    Cooper and Truman once; written, he said, for his girlfriend Diane
    Shapiro, Ph.D., Brandeis.

Lucy Moran

    The secretary and switchboard operator for the Twin Peaks
    Sheriff's office.  She is a little bit ditsy in a very likeable
    way.  She has recently been giving Deputy Brennan the cold
    shoulder; this may have something to do with a recent call from
    her doctor, who (we don't know for sure) may have told her that
    she's pregnant.

Albert Rosenfield

    A forensics specialist from Washington, D.C.  A crude and
    obnoxious man who is nevertheless very good at his job, he hated
    the few days he spent in Twin Peaks (a backwater town whose
    forensics facilities give new meaning to the word ``primitive'')
    and managed to alienate everyone around him, even the good-natured
    Cooper.  Truman, a normally unprepossessing person, was moved at
    one point to strike Albert, a minor incident for which Albert is
    determined to have Truman's badge.  (Cooper has promised to stand
    up for Truman should Albert follow through on his threat to file
    paperwork.)

Jocelyn (Josie) Packard

    Josie, a young Oriental woman with imperfect English, inherited
    the Packard Sawmill when her husband, Andrew, died more than a
    year before.  Catherine Martell (her sister-in-law) runs the
    business for her, but grudgingly; there is strong hatred between
    Josie and Catherine.  Catherine has been falsifying the mill's
    financial records to make it appear as though it's losing money,
    and is scheming with Ben Horne (who wants the land) to burn down
    the mill and make it appear as though Josie did it in an insurance
    fraud.  However, Josie is also scheming with Ben, unbeknownst to
    Catherine, and Josie is aware of Catherine's plans.  Josie seems
    to be keeping her secrets well-hidden from her lover, Sheriff
    Truman.  Before Laura's death, Laura was Josie's English tutor.
    Josie has the distinction of being the very first character we see
    in the Twin Peaks pilot; she is applying makeup and looking very
    sad, before news of Laura's murder is announced.

Catherine Packard Martell

    Sister of the late Andrew Packard, wife of Pete Martell, and
    mistress of Benjamin Horne.  Catherine is a shrewd and hateful
    woman who has designs against Josie Packard, who owns the mill
    that Catherine runs.  With Ben, who wants the land that the mill
    sits on, she has been planning to burn the mill, and through her
    careful falsifying of the mill's financial records, plans to pin
    the blame on Josie, making it look like an insurance fraud.
    Catherine has recently become aware of Ben and Josie scheming
    behind her back, however.  She discovered that a new life
    insurance policy has been taken out on her, with the one million
    dollar benefit going to Josie.  Catherine has now allied herself
    with the Mr. Neff, the ambitious insurance agent whose
    penchant for double-checking everything brought the new policy to
    Catherine's attention.

Pete Martell

    Catherine Martell's husband.  Pete is a pleasant, easy-going
    fisherman who works for Josie at the mill.  He is aware of
    Catherine's affair with Ben Horne, and sadly accepts his wife's
    hatred.  He is fond of Josie (in an innocent way), and may or may
    not be aware of her shadier dealings.

Benjamin Horne

    Twin Peaks' local real-estate baron and owner of Horne's
    department store is a man of voracious appetites -- for food, for
    sex, and for power.  Ben has many connections to the Twin Peaks
    underworld.  He has hired Leo Johnson to burn the mill according
    to his and Catherine's plan and is aware of Leo's murder of
    Bernard Renault.  He frequents One-Eyed Jack's, a brothel just
    over the Canadian border.  Laura and Ronette are rumored to have
    worked as ``hospitality girls'' there; in fact, we've recently
    discovered that the perfume counter at Horne's is a recruiting
    station for new One-Eyed Jack's talent.  Ben and his brother Jerry
    are currently entertaining a visiting group of Icelanders in the
    hope that they will sign on with Ben's ``Ghostwood Estates''
    development project -- a project for which he needs the land on
    which the mill sits.  When Josie steadfastly refused to sell the
    mill, he and his mistress Catherine schemed to burn it down and
    get rid of Josie; however, Ben has also been scheming with Josie
    behind Catherine's back, possibly to murder Catherine.

Sylvia Horne

    Ben's estranged wife.

Jerry Horne

    Ben's brother and partner in various shady real-estate deals.
    Jerry has been in charge of entertaining the current Icelandic
    junket, and has fallen in love with one of its constituents,
    ``Heppa.''  He and Ben have recently decided that, to clinch the
    deal, they should take the Icelanders to One-Eyed Jack's.

Johnny Horne

    Ben and Sylvia's retarded son.

Audrey Horne

    A smoldering sexpot and rich brat.  Audrey is the daughter of Ben
    and Sylvia.  She has been enamored of Agent Cooper since his
    arrival in Twin Peaks, and hopes that she can help solve the
    murder, so that he'll fall in love with her and take her away to a
    life of international intrigue.  To this end, Audrey has tried to
    enlist the help of Donna Hayward, Laura's best friend, in learning
    more about Laura; but Donna made Audrey promise not to give any
    facts they discover to the police.  An inveterate snoop, Audrey
    has eavesdropped on Ben and Catherine's plan to burn the mill and
    implicate Josie.  Recently, Cooper returned to his hotel room at
    the Great Northern to discover Audrey, naked, in his bed.  He
    gently declined her implied invitation, opting instead to stay up
    and talk about her problems, for which Audrey was grateful.
    Audrey suspected the connection between her father's department
    store, One-Eyed Jack's, and Laura's murder.  She pleaded with her
    father for a job at the store; she blackmailed Emory Battis, the
    store's general manager, to place her behind the perfume counter;
    and she eavesdropped as Emory offered another perfume-counter girl
    a job at One-Eyed Jack's.  Audrey got the phone number of Blackie
    (the madame at One-Eyed Jack's) and persuaded Blackie to give her
    a job as a ``hospitality girl,'' proving her suitability for the
    job by tying a knot in a cherry stem with her tongue.  The last we
    heard of Audrey, she was desperate to get an important message to
    Cooper; we don't know what the message is.

Leland Palmer

    Laura's father, and a lawyer for Ben Horne in his real-estate
    deals.  Initially, following Laura's death, Leland had his hands
    full keeping his wife from falling apart; now, the situation has
    reversed.  Leland exhibits grief on a grotesquely comic scale.  At
    Laura's funeral, he leaped atop Laura's coffin, sobbing loudly.
    At home, and twice in public, he has danced with an imaginary
    Laura in his arms while sobbing and causing discomfort and
    embarrassment to those around him.

Sarah Palmer

    Laura's mother now seems to be mostly over her grief.  She is
    given to psychic visions; she had one, on the night after Laura's
    death, of a gloved hand digging a buried necklace from the ground,
    and another one of ``Killer Bob'' crouched at the foot of Laura's
    bed.

Laura Palmer

    The murder victim, and the beautiful ``good girl'' of the town,
    turns out to have had a very dark side.  According to her
    psychiatrist, Dr.  Jacoby (with whom she seems to have had more
    than just a doctor-patient relationship), Laura saw herself as
    essentially bad, and was driven by the desire to corrupt those
    around her.  Cooper et. al have discovered a personal ad that she
    placed in the pornographic ``Flesh World'' magazine.  Forensics
    has determined that on the night she died, she had had sex with
    three men.  She also had a cocaine habit and may have been
    involved in dealing drugs.  She had been working at the perfume
    counter at Horne's department store, and was almost certainly a
    ``hopitality girl'' at One-Eyed Jack's.  She was dating Bobby
    Briggs, and also James Hurley (whom Bobby didn't know about until
    after she died).

Madeleine Ferguson

    Laura's look-alike cousin, with dark hair instead of blond,
    arrived in Twin Peaks just in time for Laura's funeral.  She used
    to play with Laura in their youth, pretending they were sisters,
    though they haven't seen each other in many years.  Maddie is
    sweet, shy, and timid.  She is staying with Leland and Sarah
    Palmer.  She ran into James Hurley at the RR Diner and immediately
    struck up a friendship with him, expressing what may be a morbid
    fascination with Laura's murder.  James introduced Maddie to
    Donna, and the three of them made a pact to find out what happened
    to Laura.  Step one: Donna was certain that Laura kept something
    hidden in her room.  Maddie, who's staying in Laura's room, is
    able to find several cassette tapes in the bedpost.  When the
    three of them get together to listen to them, they discover that
    the tapes were made by Laura in privacy, but were addressed to Dr.
    Jacoby.  The tapes spoke of secrets, and of sex.  James, Donna and
    Maddie discovered that one tape was missing from the set (they
    were all dated), and they presume that Jacoby must have it.  Using
    a wig, and discarding her glasses, Maddie makes herself up to look
    exactly like Laura.  The threesome sends a videotape of the new
    Laura to Jacoby with a message to meet Laura, in the hope that
    they will be able to find his tape when he leaves his apartment.
    When we last saw Maddie, she had been left alone standing by a
    gazebo while James and Donna went to break into Jacoby's
    apartment; Jacoby was on his way to the gazebo; and Maddie (in her
    Laura disguise) was being watched by an unknown person.

Janek Pulaski

    Ronette's father.

Maria Pulaski

    Ronette's mother.

Ronette Pulaski

    Co-worker and friend of Laura Palmer, was attacked along with
    Laura, but survived and escaped.  She is now comatose, having
    suffered severe physical and psychological trauma.  Ronette worked
    with Laura at the perfume counter at Horne's -- and, presumably,
    as a hospitality girl at One-Eyed Jack's.  A personal ad was run
    by Ronette in ``Flesh World'' on the same page as Laura's ad.

``Big Ed'' Hurley

    Owner of ``Big Ed's Gas Farm'' and a faithful Bookhouse Boy.  Ed
    is married to the bizarre and disturbed Nadine, but has been
    having an affair with Norma Jennings.  (With the news of Hank's
    release from prison, and Ed's growing concern about Nadine's
    mental health, he and Norma recently decided to break it off, at
    least for a while.)  We last saw Ed as he was undercover at
    One-Eyed Jack's with Cooper.

Nadine Hurley

    Ed's wife is mentally disturbed in a way you can't quite put your
    finger on.  She wears an eyepatch.  Her greatest joy, aside from
    the fact that she has a husband, is that she managed to invent
    silent drape-runners by accident a short while ago.  She had been
    out of town consulting a patent attorney, and returned in a black
    depression when her patent application was rejected.

James Hurley

    Twin Peaks' ``good boy'' rides a motorcycle and dated Laura before
    her death; in fact, she abruptly jumped off his bike on the night
    of her death to keep a mysterious appointment.  Laura complained
    to Jacoby that James was ``too sweet.''  James, Donna and Laura
    formed a tight clique.  Laura gave James half of a broken-heart
    sweethearts' necklace which, after her death, he and Donna buried
    beneath a rock in the woods.  When Donna learned of Sarah Palmer's
    vision (of a gloved hand removing a necklace from the ground), she
    and James returned to find the necklace missing indeed.  James was
    deeply hurt by Laura's death and the subsequent revelations of her
    darker side.  He and Donna made a vow to learn the truth about
    what happened to Laura.  To this end, they've allied themselves
    with Madeleine.  Their current scheme is to lure Dr. Jacoby away
    from his apartment so that they can get Jacoby's Laura-tape.  When
    we last saw James, he and Donna had just entered Jacoby's
    apartment, and Bobby Briggs, who had followed James, placed a bag
    of white powder (coke? sugar?)  in James' motorcycle's gas tank.

Norma Jennings

    Owner of the RR Diner.  Norma's husband, Hank, was recently
    paroled from prison, where he was serving a 3-5 year sentence for
    manslaughter (his car struck a vagrant).  Norma helped Hank get
    his parole by promising the parole board that she'd employ Hank at
    the diner.  Nevertheless, she seems uneasy about Hank's return,
    and not only because it prompted her to suspend her affair with Ed
    Hurley.

Henry (Hank) Jennings

    Hank Jennings, Norma's husband, was recently paroled from prison
    (3-5, manslaughter).  Now working at Norma's diner, Hank has
    resumed what we must assume were his old ways.  As soon as he was
    released, he tracked down Leo Johnson and beat him up, threatening
    him thus: ``I told you to mind the store, not open your own
    franchise... Clean up your act or you'll watch me take apart your
    chippy [Shelly] before I kill you.''  Hank is now involved in some
    way with Josie Packard.  Sheriff Truman, who doesn't believe that
    people can change, is keeping a wary eye on Hank.

Dr. William Hayward

    Donna's father and the local GP.  Dr. Hayward has been helping
    Cooper and Truman with various minor forensics aspects of the
    case, and also helped to nurse Waldo the mynah bird back to
    health.  Dr. Hayward delivered Laura at birth, and was too upset
    to perform an autopsy at her death, objecting to Albert's cold
    professionalism in the matter.

Eileen Hayward

    Donna's mother, wheelchair-bound.

Donna Hayward 

    Possibly Laura's best friend, and also close to James Hurley.  She
    and James, with the help of Madeleine, are now intently searching
    for clues regarding Laura's murder.  A while ago, Donna was
    approached by Audrey Horne, who wanted more information about
    Laura in *her* own search for clues.  Donna reluctantly agreed to
    help, but she and Audrey have not communicated since then.  Donna
    was surprised when Sarah Palmer revealed her vision of a gloved
    hand digging a necklace out of the ground; Donna and James
    returned to the site where they secretly buried Laura's necklace
    and, sure enough, found it missing.  When we last saw Donna, she
    and James had just entered Jacoby's apartment searching for his
    Laura-tape, after luring him out of the apartment by tricking him
    into believing that Laura was still alive (Madeleine, Laura's
    lookalike cousin, dressed as Laura and sent Jacoby a videotape).

Harriet Hayward 

    Donna's sister (?).

Mike Nelson 

    A friend of Bobby Briggs.  Mike and Bobby have had drug dealings
    with Leo Johnson.  They owe Leo $20,000; $10,000 of which
    Bobby had given to Laura before she died, and which is now
    unaccounted for.  Leo threatened the two of them for the money,
    and Mike was terrified.  He said, "I'm outta here," and we haven't
    heard from him since.

Maj. Garland Briggs

    Bobby's father, a retired (?) Air Force officer.  Major Briggs is
    aware that his son has gone bad, and repeatedly tries to instill
    wisdom in Bobby (in vain).  Most recently, he took Betty and Bobby
    to Dr.  Jacoby for family counselling, which (so far) has been
    inconclusive.

Betty Briggs

    Bobby's mother, a plastic apple-pie Donna-Reedite who sees her a
    family through rose-colored glasses, preferring to ignore the
    chaos that really exists.

Bobby Briggs 

    Twin Peaks' ``bad boy.''  Bobby is a football player, a small-time
    drug dealer in an uneasy alliance with Leo Johnson, a former lover
    of Laura's, and currently in an affair with Shelly, Leo's wife.
    Bobby and his friend Mike Nelson worked together with Leo, and
    owed him $20,000.  Half of that money Bobby gave to Laura before
    she died, and is now unaccounted for.  When Leo demanded his
    money, Mike, terrified, disappeared.  Bobby has been having an
    affair with Shelly (Leo's wife), possibly since before Laura's
    death.  Bobby and Shelly are frightened of what would happen if
    the violent Leo should discover their affair.  Thus, when Shelly
    mentioned Leo's bloody shirt to Bobby, Bobby thought that it could
    be used to implicate Leo in the death of Laura, and with Leo in
    prison he and Shelly would have nothing to fear.  Bobby planted
    the bloody shirt in Jacques Renault's apartment, where it was
    discovered by Cooper et. al.  (They discovered Leo's initials in
    the shirt, and the blood -- type AB negative -- didn't match
    Laura's, but *did* match Jacques'.)  At Laura's funeral, Bobby
    began ranting about how everyone knew Laura was in trouble, and no
    one did anything to help her.  He seems to have been deeply
    affected by her death.  Also at the funeral, Bobby confronted
    James Hurley, who he had recently discovered was another lover of
    Laura's.  He threatened to kill James and had to be restrained
    from fighting with him.  When Major Briggs took the family to Dr.
    Jacoby for counselling, Jacoby asked to be alone with Bobby.  Once
    alone, he vigorously interrogated Bobby about Laura, using
    information about him that Laura had told Jacoby in confidence.
    (``Bobby, what happened the first time you and Laura made love?
    Bobby, did you cry?  And did she laugh at you?'')  Jacoby said
    that he understood Laura's desire to corrupt people, and Bobby
    explained that Laura had told him that she views herself as
    essentially bad, and that while she tries to do good things, she
    always feels like she's pulled back down to hell.  Bobby also told
    Jacoby that it was Laura that got him involved in coke-dealing.
    Recently, Bobby spoke to Shelly about standing up to Leo (who
    routinely abuses her), and Shelly pointed out that she keeps a gun
    in case things get out of hand.  Shortly after this, Shelly
    actually did shoot Leo, wounding him in his left arm.  Leo fled
    and staked out his house, then saw Bobby arrive the next day and
    deduced his affair with Shelly.  He was prepared to shoot Bobby
    but had to leave when he discovered that Waldo, the mynah bird,
    was about to give the police some sort of evidence.  Shelly told
    Bobby that she had shot Leo and that she now fears for her life,
    and Bobby promised that ``Leo Johnson is history... Bobby's gonna
    take care of everything.''  Meanwhile, Bobby followed James, first
    to his meeting with Donna and Madeleine (where they made the
    videotape with Madeleine looking like Laura), then to Jacoby's
    apartment.  When James and Donna went into Jacoby's apartment,
    Bobby placed a bag of white powder (coke? sugar?)  into the gas
    tank of Bobby's motorcycle.

Leo Johnson

    A despicable man involved in all manner of illegal activities.
    Leo is a murderer, a drug-runner, an arsonist, and a wife-beater
    (to name a few).  Leo lives with his wife, Shelly, and has only
    recently learned of her affair with Bobby Briggs.  Leo drives a
    tractor-trailer named ``Big Pussycat,'' which appeared in a
    photograph on the same page of ``Flesh World'' as Laura's and
    Ronette's ads.  Leo and Jacques Renault are known to have been
    with Laura on the night she died.  After Laura's death, Leo
    returned home with a pile of laundry that he commanded Shelly to
    wash.  Among the laundry was a blood-soaked shirt, which Shelly
    hid.  (When Leo discovered the shirt missing, he beat Shelly with
    a makeshift blackjack -- a bar of soap in the end of a sock.)
    Leo's house is littered with the same sort of plastic sheets that
    Laura's body was wrapped in when she was found.  Leo has some sort
    of shady business alliance with Jacques Renault.  Jacques, Leo,
    Ronette and Laura were all at Jacques' cabin on the night Laura
    died; so was Jacques' pet mynah bird, Waldo.  Leo murdered
    Jacques' brother Bernard out of fear that Bernard would talk about
    their dealings.  In addition to his truck, Leo also drives a
    pickup and a red Corvette.  (When Dr. Jacoby was interrogated by
    Cooper, Jacoby mentioned that on the night following Laura's
    death, he followed a red Corvette to the Old Mill Road, then lost
    it.)  On the night of Laura's death, Leo called his wife, claiming
    to be in Butte, Montana.  Leo has been hired by Ben Horne to burn
    down the Packard Mill; when they met to discuss the arrangements,
    Leo revealed to Ben that he had murdered Bernard.  When Leo
    returned from his most recent trip (he seems to take several,
    possibly running drugs with his truck), he was first met by Hank,
    just paroled from prison, who beat him up and threatened him (vide
    supra); then he went indoors and angrily demanded a beer from
    Shelly, who, after being hurled to the ground, shot Leo, wounding
    him in his left arm.  Leo retreated to the woods behind the house
    and watched Bobby Briggs arrive the next morning.  Deducing the
    affair between Bobby and Shelly, Leo prepared to shoot Bobby when
    he re-emerged.  However, he then heard Lucy's voice on the police
    scanner talking about the capture of Waldo, the mynah bird.
    Afraid that the police might learn something damaging from Waldo
    (mynah birds mimic human voices), Leo went to the sheriff's
    station and shot Waldo through a window (but not before Cooper's
    voice-activated tape recorder picked up some of Waldo's
    chatterings).

Shelly Johnson

    Leo's beaten wife, currently having an affair with Bobby Briggs.
    Shelly works as a waitress at the RR Diner.  Shelly dropped out of
    the eleventh grade to marry Leo, at which time she claims he was
    sweet and loving.  Now, however, she has nothing but hatred for,
    and fear of him.  After a ``pep talk'' from Bobby, Shelly stood up
    to Leo when he shoved her, and as he angrily advanced on her, she
    shot him in the arm.  She is now hiding in her house, certain that
    Leo is waiting outside to kill her.  She hysterically explained
    the situation to Bobby, who promised to protect her from Leo.

Jacques Renault

    A bartender at the Roadhouse bar, and a blackjack dealer at
    One-Eyed Jack's.  Jacques Renault is a business confederate of Leo
    Johnson's.  It was Jacques' log cabin where he, Leo, Laura and
    Ronette were involved in unknown activities the night Laura died.
    Jacques is a Canadian national who works as a logger on the
    American side of the border.  He fled Twin Peaks when he
    discovered that the Bookhouse Boys were interrogating his brother,
    Bernard, about Laura.  Most recently, Jacques was seen dealing
    cards to Cooper, who, along with some other Bookhouse Boys, are
    undercover at One-Eyed Jack's.

Bernard Renault

    Jacques' brother.  Bernard was also involved in some way with Leo.
    Bernard was captured by the Bookhouse Boys and was interrogated
    about his connection with Laura Palmer and whether he'd ever dealt
    coke to her.  Bernard was murdered by Leo when Leo feared that
    Bernard would ``talk.''

Dr. Lawrence Jacoby

    Laura's psychiatrist (and possibly lover) is a bizarre man.  He
    wears glasses with colored lenses: One red lens, one blue lens.
    He did not attend Laura's funeral and, afterwards, encountered
    Cooper, saying that he felt like a terrible person (presumably not
    just for missing Laura's funeral).  In a private moment, we saw
    Jacoby alone at home, wearing headphones, listening to a tape made
    by Laura on the night she died (``I feel like I'm gonna get lost
    in the woods again tonight...''), and extracting half of a
    broken-heart sweetheart's necklace from a coconut shell.  Jacoby
    was interrogated by Cooper, but was reticent to discuss Laura
    because of doctor-patient confidentiality ethics.  He did claim,
    however, two things: He was not one of the three men with whom
    she'd had sex on the night she died; and on the night following
    her death, he followed a red Corvette to the Old Mill Road, where
    he lost it.  He told Cooper that ``Laura had seeeecrets,'' and
    that in his six months counselling her he had been utterly unable
    to penetrate the wall she had built around herself, for which he
    considers himself an abject failure.  He stated that his own
    personal investigation will be ongoing for the rest of his life.
    On another occasion, Jacoby was visited by the Briggs family for
    family counselling.  He spoke to Bobby alone and caused him to
    break down (vide supra).  Most recently, Jacoby received a phone
    call and a videotape from Madeleine, made up to look like Laura
    and using phrases that Madeleine heard Laura use in the tapes they
    found.  Jacoby is skeptical but decides to meet ``Laura.''

Margaret (``Log Lady'')

    Margaret is a lady who goes nowhere without cradling a log in her
    arms.  (Cooper: ``Who's the lady with the log?''  Truman: ``We
    call her The Log Lady.'')  She often speaks to the log, and the
    log often ``speaks'' for her.  Some time ago, she approached
    Cooper, urging him to ask her log about Laura's death.  Cooper,
    feeling silly, declined.  However, during their search for
    Jacques' log cabin, Cooper, Truman, Hawk and Doc Hayward
    encountered the Log Lady again.  She invited them in, and then the
    log gave its testimony (speaking through Margaret).  The log's
    testimony was typically cryptic (vide infra).

Emory Battis

    Emory Battis is the general manager of Horne's department store.
    When Ben secures a job there for Audrey, she is sent to speak to
    Emory.  Emory says that, in accordance with her father's wishes,
    she is to start small and work her way up.  He has a position for
    her in gift-wrapping.  Audrey, intent on working behind the
    perfume counter, makes her wishes known to Emory, threatening that
    if he doesn't let her work the perfume counter, she'll tear her
    dress and scream.  Emory assents.  Later, after Audrey has been
    working the perfume counter for a while (and offending customers),
    Emory asks to speak to her coworker in private.  Audrey eavesdrops
    and hears Emory telling the other girl that the people at One-Eyed
    Jack's were pleased with her, and that she should call Black Rose,
    the One-Eyed Jack's madam, about the possibility of a job as a
    ``hospitality girl.''  It is from this conversation that Audrey is
    able to get Blackie's phone number.

Mr. Neff

    Mr. Neff is the insurance agent who, either because he's very
    cautious or because he detected a possible fraud, brought the new
    life insurance policy to Catherine for her to verify.  In so
    doing, he alerted Catherine to the fact that Ben and Josie were
    scheming against her.  Catherine, sensing a possible ally in Neff,
    asked him if he was an ambitious man, to which he knowingly
    replied in the affirmative.

Mr. Gerard (``the One-Armed Man'')

    Because a one-armed man figured prominently in Cooper's dream,
    Cooper and Truman assign Hawk to track down a real one-armed man
    who had been seen hanging around the hospital.  When he is finally
    found, he turns out to be a timid, frightened shoe salesman.  In
    Cooper's dream, the one-armed man is named Mike, and his friend,
    the killer, is named Bob.  Cooper asks Gerard whether he has a
    friend named Bob, and Gerard names Bob Lydecker, a local
    veterinary doctor, as his best friend in the world.

Waldo the Mynah Bird

    Waldo is Jacques' pet mynah bird.  Cooper et. al learn of Waldo's
    existence by confiscating and scrutinizing the files of Dr.
    Lydecker.  (Several animal bites on Laura's body were determined
    to have been inflicted by a bird, either a mynah or a parrot.)
    They find Waldo in Jacques' cabin, where they also find many other
    items of corroborating evidence.  They bring the starved,
    dehydrated bird back to the sheriff's station, where they hope
    that, with its return to health, it will mimic the voices of the
    visitors to Jacques' cabin.  Cooper leaves his voice-activated
    tape recorder near Waldo while they wait for the bird to
    recuperate.  Waldo begins to speak, but is shot by Leo before he
    can say very much.

Dr. Bob Lydecker

    A local veterinarian.  Dr. Lydecker has been in poor health
    lately, which explains Mr. Gerard's frequent visits to the
    hospital.  Dr.  Lydecker's files were impounded by Cooper after
    several indications that there was a connection between Dr.
    Lydecker, and ``Killer Bob'' from Cooper's dream.  (``Harry, as
    sure as the signs on the highway, the bird that attacked Laura
    Palmer is a client of this office.'')  Cooper gives Lucy the job
    of finding a pet in the files that is either a parrot or a mynah
    (Laura's body exhibited bird bites inflicted by one of those two
    kinds of birds), and Lucy finds a mynah bird in the files named
    Waldo, owned by Jacques Renault.  This double coincidence prompts
    Cooper and Truman to investigate Jacques' apartment.

``Killer Bob''

    A bizarre man, long-haired and appearing to wear a crown of thorns
    or somesuch, who has appeared in two separate psychic incidents.
    First, Cooper dreamed of Killer Bob, who promised to kill again.
    Later, Sarah Palmer saw Killer Bob for an instant at the foot of
    Laura's bed.  When Andy rendered a police sketch of Killer Bob
    from Sarah's description, Cooper confirmed that it was the same
    man from his dream.  (``I had an intuition that Sarah Palmer's
    vision was linked to my dream.'')  The drawing does not resemble
    anyone in Twin Peaks, including Dr. Bob Lydecker.

``Man From Another Place''

    The ``Man from Another Place'' is the dwarf from Cooper's dream.
    He first appears with his back to Cooper, vigorously rubbing his
    hands together.  He then issues a series of confounding statements
    in badly garbled English (vide infra).

Black (``Blackie'') Rose

    Blackie is the madam at One-Eyed Jack's.  Most recently, she was
    hesitant to hire Audrey, but relented after Audrey demonstrated
    her ability to tie a knot in a cherry stem with her tongue.


    RUNNING THEMES

Birds

    Birds seem to play a major role in the more metaphysical aspects
    of this story.  In Cooper's dream, there is the shadow of
    something resembling a bird moving across the red curtains.  When
    James and Donna discover that the necklace is missing from the
    woods, an owl that has been watching them hoots ominously.  The
    Log Lady's speech is littered with frightened references to owls
    (``The owls won't see us in here''; before Laura's death ``the
    owls were flying,'' afterwards ``the owls were silent.'')
    Finally, there is the crucial testimony given by Waldo, the mynah
    bird, prior to its death.

``Invitation to Love''

    All of the residents of Twin Peaks watch TV, and no one watches
    anything but the cheesy soap-opera, ``Invitation to Love.''  The
    events in ``Invitation to Love'' often seem to closely parallel
    the events in Twin Peaks itself.  While Leland is watching the
    opening credits (``starring [so-and-so] as Emerald and Jade [the
    identical twin sisters]''), Madeleine (Laura's ``twin'') makes her
    first appearance.  While on ``Invitation to Love,'' Emerald plots
    to steal the Towers from her sister Jade, Catherine plots to get
    the Mill away from her sister-in-law, Josie.  When ``Montana''
    beats up ``Chet,'' Hank beats up Leo.  When ``Chet'' shoots
    ``Montana,'' Shelly shoots Leo.  When ``Jade'' is asked to toast
    old friends, Jacoby gets a call from the long-dead Laura (actually
    Madeleine).  And on and on...

Duality

    There is a strong sense of twins, doubles, etc., in Twin Peaks;
    and usually, we only see one of the pair while the other is simply
    implied.  There is, first of all, the town's name (and in the
    opening credits, we only see one peak).  There's Nadine's eyes,
    one hidden by a patch; Laura's lookalike cousin; the one-armed
    man's one arm; the twin sisters Emerald and Jade on ``Invitation
    to Love''; the double-three domino carried around by Hank; the
    other murder of a girl, a year earlier; and many other suggestions
    on this theme.

The Bookhouse Boys

    The Bookhouse Boys is an underground organization consisting of
    the members of the sheriff's department and some other local
    citizens such as Ed Hurley.  Truman explains to Cooper that the
    Bookhouse Boys have existed for a very long time in Twin Peaks, to
    combat ``the evil presence in the woods.''  The Bookhouse Boys are
    not above going slightly outside of the law.  Thus, when Cooper
    decides that a trip to One-Eyed Jack's is in order, he suggests
    that it is a job for the Bookhouse Boys (since One-Eyed Jack's is
    in Canada, and out of their legal jurisdiction).


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In article <gribble.643408975@cica>, gribble@cica.cica.indiana.edu (gribble) writes:
> > 
> > BTW, was [Blue Velvet] ever released in a R version?

BLUE VELVET was released ONLY in an R-rated version.  Even the
videocassette release was the R version.

-- --Orlan Cannon oc@vmp.com Video Marketing & Publications, Inc. ...!uunet!vmp!oc Oradell, NJ 07649 (800) 627-4551

In article <May90.22.191602@radcom.UUCP> surfer@radcom (The Neon Surfer) writes:
> >
> >    Well, since the show ends this week any way, we may as well end the
> >group, too.  I don't think there's going to be too much discusiion on it
> >during the off season any way.

Sorry for the profanity, but sending rmgroups is NOT someone's individual
perogative like this.  Do not cancel alt.tv.twin-peaks, please.  

-george

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