Season 2, Episodes 21–22: Miss Twin Peaks / Beyond Life and Death — June 10, 1991–August 27, 1992

In article <1991Nov06.163335.1878@donau.et.tudelft.nl> mark@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Mark Korsloot) writes:

<Luckily, all foreign series (i.e. 90% of all series) are subtitled in
<the Netherlands, so we don't have to hear John Wayne, saying
<"Handen omhoog" (hands up...),

So how is the backward-backward speech handled?  Do you get 
sub-sub titles?  That is, are the English subtitles removed by Lynch/Frost
before exporting overseas?

Jan Bielawski
Computervision R&D, San Diego
jpb@calmasd.prime.com

In article <91310.204346V50ZJP@HASARA11.BITNET> V50ZJP@HASARA11.BITNET (Jan Paul Barends) writes:
> >The "one chants out between two worlds" line was translated with "kans"
> >i.e. "chance". I suppose that that can't be considered too much of a goof
> >as the closed captions were needed to settle that dispute. Or are there
> >who still doubt that reading? To me there was need for a verb, not a noun
> >here. Oh well...

I assume you missed the recent posting of transcripts from the actual TP
scripts.  Once and for all, THE WORD WAS "CHANCE".

As for the need for a verb there...  well, it depends how you punctuate
the poem.  Most of those who believe the word is "chants" read it as
"Through the darkness of futures past, the magician longs to see.  One
chants out between two worlds, 'Fire, Walk with me.'"  (Sounds kinda
simple and prosaic when phrased like that, doesn't it?)

However, when you read the lines as all part of one sentence, they
become "the magician longs to see one chance out between two worlds:  FIRE.
Walk with me."  Now this version is much more elliptical and suggestive...
more Lynchian, IMHO.  It implies, perhaps, that the one chance out is the
way of the fire -- of the devil?  Considering that it is the word of BOB, 
that makes a twisted sort of sense...

In article <1991Nov7.121303.7237@newsroom.utas.edu.au> robbie@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au writes:
> >I am new to this newsgroup but have watched every episode up until the
> >deaths of Thomas and Josey (screened tonight 7/11/91 in Hobart). 

> >Finally, the appearance of Bob, the midget and the drawer knob imagery
> >all escape me at present. I am meant to understand their meaning or does
> >it become apparent at a later time.

Good question.  They never explicitly explain that scene -- but it seems to
me that BOB and Thomas Eckhardt had some kind of bond.  Remember, when first
we see Thomas, the camera focused on the fire reflected in his sunglasses?
Either this was another attempt to tease the audience, or Eckhardt was also
linked to the Black Lodge -- which would explain BOB's appearance.

As for the drawer knob -- just a couple of thoughts.  There is a spirit
in the Log Lady's log.  The dresser (and for that matter, most of the Great
Northern) is mostly wood.  Could it be that BOB has found a way of tucking
Josie's spirit away for safekeeping?...

I love you, Lucy!
You are everything what I expect from woman.

Mika

There is a good article about the filming of "Fire Walk With Me" in the 
Nov/Dec issue of "Film Comment".  Laura Dern is on the cover.

The guy who played the spiritual giant in T.P. is in the new Addams
Family movie as Lurch the tall butler.  Just read this in the latest
Rolling Stone

Just read in the latest Rolling Stone that the Twin Peaks giant (Carel
Struycken) plays the "towering glum butler" named Lurch in the upcoming
movie "The Addams Family"

-mike

Can anyone tell me if Cheryl Lee (Laura Palmer and Maddy Fergueson) on Twin
Peaks has been in anything else (either TV or movie).  I know of her brief
role in Wild at Heart.  I'd also be interested in upcoming.

Please mail replies, as I don't read all of the groups to which this is going.

Thanks muchly...

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    I have to agree with a previous posting that the black/white lodge
setup appears to be based in the Christian ideas of heaven/hell/purgatory.
I thought this was fairly clear throughout.

    Also, a microscopic bit of trivia - after watching an episode of the
ancient series Dukes of Hazard on the weekend I saw Hank from Tp starring as
the head bad guy.  Everything I watch lately seems to have Tp actors in it!!
Doogie Howser had that girl from the second TP series(the one who married the 2
old guys) as Doogie's date.  These are just 2 off the top of my head but have
other people out there noticed how many times the actors from Tp pop up in
other shows?


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    I have a question - it has been said that Cooper will be in the lodge for
another 50 years, but I believe it was to be 25 years from what Laura said in
the waiting room.  Any thoughts?...

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It just occurred to me. If they did a "Cooper's Life" retrospect
 sort of thing in that last episode, wouldn't it have been interesting
 to see Marie, the girl from My Life, My Tapes? I for one wouldn't mind.

                                            Just a thought,
                                               George

        "Cooper: What did you see?
         Windom: The Abyss, Coop. The abyss.
         Cooper: What did you find there?
         Windom: Find?
         Cooper: Yes.
         Windom: Wonderful things.          "

 In the episode where Dale and Annie go out on the lake Annie mentioned
 that the person responsible for her retreat into the convent was
 "a boy" she knew in High School. Am I the only one who sees a possible 
 connection to BOB here?


                                         Just a thought,
                                           George

      "Why do you think Bobby Fisher turned to God and gave up chess?
       Answer: To get to the other side."

Hi everyone!  Long time since I've posted, but I wanted to tell everyone
what I found out from my friend at Lynch/Frost.  For those of you who
don't know me, the contact is a reliable person...in the show credits and
not just a lackey!  :)

I was told that the woman who is playing Donna Hayward in the movie is
Moira Kelly.  She played Sheryl Lee's younger sister in the tv movie
"I Love You to Death" and will play Uma Onean Chaplan in an upcoming
tv movie. (hope I got that name right!)

My contact said "[Moira] has lots of talent and plays Donna very well.  She
has a promising career ahead of her!"

Also, Sherylin Fenn will be doing some shooting at L/F in Van Nuys, and
McLachlan did 5 days in Washington and 'a couple days' in Van Nuys.

To quote Gordon Cole, "That's it!  You're up to date!"

More as I hear it!  Let me know if there is anything I can tell you!

Bob 'BOB' Cappel

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aka "BOB", eager for fun!       ||               fear...?" 
                                ||Major Briggs: "The idea...that....love
czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu     ||               is not enough...!"

 
 
Hi everyone!  Long time since I've posted, but I wanted to tell everyone
what I found out from my friend at Lynch/Frost.  For those of you who
don't know me, the contact is a reliable person...in the show credits and
not just a lackey!  :)
 
I was told that the woman who is playing Donna Hayward in the movie is
Moira Kelly.  She played Sheryl Lee's younger sister in the tv movie
"I Love You to Death" and will play Uma Onean Chaplan in an upcoming
tv movie. (hope I got that name right!)
 
My contact said "[Moira] has lots of talent and plays Donna very well.  She
has a promising career ahead of her!"
 
Also, Sherylin Fenn will be doing some shooting at L/F in Van Nuys, and
McLachlan did 5 days in Washington and 'a couple days' in Van Nuys.
 
To quote Gordon Cole, "That's it!  You're up to date!"
 
More as I hear it!  Let me know if there is anything I can tell you!
 
Bob 'BOB' Cappel
 
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Robert D. Cappel, Iowa City,IA  ||Windom Earle: "What is your greatest
aka "BOB", eager for fun!       ||               fear...?" 
                                ||Major Briggs: "The idea...that....love
czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu     ||               is not enough...!"

First of all it is 25 years not 50 years, I don't know here anyone got 50 years from.  In cooper's dream he even says he ways 25 years older and Laura says to him in the last show, "I'll see you in 25 years".  Secondly, Coop does not necessarily have to stay in the Black Lodge for 25 years.  Don't you think its possible Laura was simply referring to that in the way time works for her, she 
will not come to agent cooper in his dream for 25 years, but it has already happened for cooper.  Also, remember Laura had the same dream Cooper had, but even before he did.  Or mayber Cooper will return to the black lodge 25 years later, doesn't mean he has to say in there.

jasonhal@usc.edu

> >        So how is the backward-backward speech handled?  Do you get
> >sub-sub titles?  That is, are the English subtitles removed by Lynch/Frost
> >before exporting overseas?
Nope, they copied part of the picture over the american subtitles and put
the Dutch  ones (more or less) on top of that. It's a technique they also
use to hide the information like name and function of people that are
being interviewed in documentaries as the position of these would overlap
with the (Dutch) subtitles and put the name/job info somewhere else in the
picture (like on top).
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> >
> >I assume you missed the recent posting of transcripts from the actual TP
> >scripts.  Once and for all, THE WORD WAS "CHANCE".
> >
Right you are; I only did read it after I posted my follow-up. So the
closed captions aren't reliable after all.
 
But, concerning translation quality: yesterday I saw them translate
"10 feet" with "25 meter" (concerning the hight of rooms in the GN).
Well, maybe 10 feet was in the original just intended to be a way to
express a very great hight, but a room of more than 83 feet is bit
beyond that I think.
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 The T.P. Giant, Carel Struycken (sp?) some might remember from the old Wall 
of Voodoo video, "Mexican Radio".
 
 This was when the incredible Stan Ridgway was still in the band, and this 
was around 1983.
 We see Struycken at the end of the  video as the camera angle changes to a 
behind the scene's shot showing the lads in the band performing with the 
camera quite close to them, and Struycken stands tall above them dressed as 
the director of the movie shouting out commands.
 Former Wall of Voodoo singer/musician Stan Rigdway recently came out with I 
believe his third solo album (after the Big Heat, and Mosquito's) called 
"Partyball" which has some great songs on it in the Jack Keroac of rock and 
roll Stan Rigdway tradition.
 
 
 Rigway teamed up with Ex-Police drummer Stewart Copeland to do the 
soundtrack to the movie "Rumble Fish", which is an album I've been looking 
for, for some time now. Anybody seen it around, preferably on CD?
 
 Anyway, check Struycken out next time you see the video for "Mexican 
Radio".

POSSIBLE SPOILERS...........

Last night I watched the episode number 2017 and as usual came to work to
look at the TP timeline to relive the events of importance. Today there
was a major discrepancy. At the beginning of last nights episode, the first
thing we see is poor old Harry Truman, sitting dejectedly getting drunk
on Jack Daniels. On the timeline we have a long speech by Coop to Diane 
explaining the current state of affairs in Twin Peaks, only then does it
describe Truman state of anxiety. So whats going on? Can anyone in the 
states tell me if they recall seeing the scene at the beginning of 2017 
when Cooper is talking to Diane? It may be that TV3 is editing TP. This 
has happened here before, to Blackadder which was cut due to length. At 
the BBC, no advertising means that programmes are half an hour long and 
run for half an hour without commercials, in New Zealand it would take 
half an hour to run plus commercial time equals 40 minutes. TV 1 didn't 
want that so they saw fit to cut 10 minutes from each Blackadder, that is 
until the public found out and succeeded in changing the policy through 
a concerted campaign in which turnips were sent to TV offices around the 
country! I thought perhaps they may be cutting TP too, although I have no
other evidence apart from this. We did have a "Last week on Twin Peaks"
intro as well, and it may be that they included this and cut Coops speech.
Anyone out there comment on this? Was Coopers speech to Diane on episode 
2017? Is there a brief resume given at the beginning of each US episode?

Tom Higham,
Radiocarbon Dating Laboratory,
University of waikato, 
Hamilton,
New Zealand.

 Greetings, fellow Twin-Peaks/David Lynch enthusiasts.  I am currently a 
film student at the University of British Columbia, here in Canada and I am 
preparing a large term paper on Lynch's work, including analysis of his 
films, and his career as both a filmmaker, painter, and basically the genius 
of an artist that he is.
 I have collected some interview material of Lynch, and I would like to take 
this opportunity to ask anybody who has any information on David Lynch to 
please E-Mail me if possible. Any interview either on text or on videotape 
would be of help, and perhaps we could make some arrangement to even 
exchange information if you too would be interested in further knowledge of 
Lynch's life, films and art.
 
 Please contact me at:
 
stevedal@tz.wimsey.bc.ca
 
 Thanks in advance!
  
 Erin O'Maonlai
 
 *  *  *
 
 Q: The television trailer says, "From the Director of Twin Peaks"
Lynch: Well that's okay, because it IS from the director of Twin Peaks. And 
if you like Twin Peaks, you might like Wild at Heart. Even my mother might 
like it. But I worry about her.
Q: Did she see Blue Velvet?
LYNCH: Yes, she did. She had open heart surgery right afterwards [laughter].
 *  *  *

It may have been that we (in the USA) got the long intro by
Coop because it was the first episode (I think) after a six-week
hiatus.  It was to bring everyone who'd forgotten the story after
so long back up to speed.
-- Rick Jones Systems Support Center albert@bcm.tmc.eduBaylor College of Medicine The opinions are mine, but facts belong to everyone. "It's not the years, honey, it's the mileage" -Indiana Jones

The owner of my local video store has alerted me to the
availability of Twin Peaks on video.  Her distributor has
available the first seven episodes of the show, in an attractive
"log" box.  The set goes for something like $90.00 or more.
Has anyone else heard of this?  I haven't actually seen the
set, yet.  I put in my deposit, and hope to have it in the next
couple of weeks.


Skip Haughay

Hi!

I'll be in Seattle the next month, and I would like to
know if it's a long drive to spoq...(TP you know).

And if one can do it on one day.

                /Mats
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     He plays the old Ted Cassidy role. Also Ed and Nadine are in THE PEOPLE
UNDER THE STAIRS. Is it true as ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY reports that Wendy Robie i
s a female impersonator ?

In article <9062@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Robert D. Cappel...you can call me The Bob) writes:
> > 
> >More as I hear it!  Let me know if there is anything I can tell you!

How about a release date for the movie?




Tom Kuchar
kuchar@buast7.bu.edu
Department of Astronomy
Boston Univerity

In article <9062@ns-mx.uiowa.edu>, czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Robert D. Cappel...you can call me The Bob) writes:
  
> > I was told that the woman who is playing Donna Hayward in the movie is
> > Moira Kelly.  She played Sheryl Lee's younger sister in the tv movie
> > "I Love You to Death" and will play Uma Onean Chaplan in an upcoming
> > tv movie. (hope I got that name right!)

I think you mean Oona O'Neill Chaplin, daughter of Eugene O'Neill and
wife of Charlie Chaplin.

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> >Also, Sherylin Fenn will be doing some shooting at L/F in Van Nuys

REALLY?!?

I just read an interview she did in Details magazine, and she said she
was not doing the Twin Peaks movie because "it was being done for the
wrong reasons."  (Whatever that means).  Other info in TV Guide recently
seemed to confirm that she wouldn't be in it.

Has she changed her mind?


Brian WOOD    *House address 710 -- same as Blue Lady's apt in Blue Velvet
              *Just got through studying major religious works like Ben Horne
              *Live next to a grove of TREES
              *My wife's aunt's name is Annie; my sister's name is Anne
              *My wife grew up next to a forest; next street - Glastonbury
              *My father's name was Palmer

In article <1991Nov12.122948.5520@waikato.ac.nz> higham@waikato.ac.nz writes:
   Last night I watched the episode number 2017 and as usual came to work to
   look at the TP timeline to relive the events of importance. Today there
   was a major discrepancy. At the beginning of last nights episode, the first
   thing we see is poor old Harry Truman, sitting dejectedly getting drunk
   on Jack Daniels. On the timeline we have a long speech by Coop to Diane 
   explaining the current state of affairs in Twin Peaks, only then does it
   describe Truman state of anxiety. 

Episode 2017 was aired here in Finland two days ago, and it started
with Truman getting drunk here, too.  The length of the episode minus
commercials was as long as the previous ones have been, i.e. just
under 45 minutes.
--
Tor Lillqvist,
working, but not speaking, for the Technical Research Centre of Finland

Just a couple days ago there was a short piece on
Entertainment Tonight about Wendy Robie (I think that's her
name), who played Nadine in _TP_.  The piece focused mainly
on her appearance in Wes Craven's _People Under the Stairs_,
but much mention was made of _TP_.  She is apparently in
_Fire Walk With Me_, and said that if it proves popular,
further movies might be made about Twin Peaks.

--Max

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V50ZJP@HASARA11.BITNET (Jan Paul Barends) writes:

> >But, concerning translation quality: yesterday I saw them translate
> >"10 feet" with "25 meter" (concerning the hight of rooms in the GN).
> >Well, maybe 10 feet was in the original just intended to be a way to
> >express a very great hight, but a room of more than 83 feet is bit
> >beyond that I think.

Well - they translated it all right in Germany ("over 3 Meters").

Now this again gives me the chance .. to ask ... any1 out there able
to supply me with the original TP Episodes (esp. after #20). (Yes, I got the
pilot, but I'd like to see all of it).

cu
Wiljo
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In article <1991Nov12.122948.5520@waikato.ac.nz> higham@waikato.ac.nz writes:
<POSSIBLE SPOILERS...........
<
<Last night I watched the episode number 2017 and as usual came to work to
<look at the TP timeline to relive the events of importance. Today there
<was a major discrepancy. At the beginning of last nights episode, the first
<thing we see is poor old Harry Truman, sitting dejectedly getting drunk
<on Jack Daniels. On the timeline we have a long speech by Coop to Diane 
<explaining the current state of affairs in Twin Peaks, only then does it
<describe Truman state of anxiety. So whats going on? 

The long speech by Coop wasn't part of the episode proper but simply
a recap -- episode 2017 was shown after a break of 4 weeks or so.  The recap
had the same status as the regular announcements "Previously on Twin Peaks...".

Jan Bielawski
Computervision R&D, San Diego
jpb@calmasd.prime.com

From the beginning of a chapter entitled "How Does Operant Conditioning
Work?" from a 1964 text called Learning Theories for Teachers:
"Let each of us picture himself as a fourth grader, Dale Cooper, in a
possible classroom of the year 1975. At the first bell students enter the
room; at the second bell they become silent. When opening exercises have
been completed, the teacher says, "Arithmetic." Dale has been conditioned at
this signal to place his arithmetic cylinder on his teaching machine, find
where he left off yesterday, and proceed with conditining himself to solve
arithmetic problems. After 20 minutes the teacher says, "Reading," and in
another 20 inutes, "Spelling." Each word is the appropriate stimulus for
Dale to change cylanders on his machine. Then comes recess. At the sound
of a bell with a different tone from that of the the one which brought
students into the room, they go out to the playground. Here, playground
equipment has been adequately mechanized and sequenced so that there is
little need for a teacher or any other supervisory personnel. The teacher
uses the recess period to check, repair, and lubricate the machines.
The psychology which would support the emphasis on teaching
machines for Dale's education has been developed by a professor at Harvard,
B. F. Skinner (1904- ). Skinner has found operant conditioning highly
effective in training animals, and he is confident that it promises equal
success when used with children and youth..."


Laurel Smith Stvan
stvan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

Hi Twin Freaks..

Does anyone know if the actor playing the GIANT (Van Struycken) speaks
Dutch?
Has he ever been in a Dutch-spoken movie or tv series???

Just curious...................
Rob (e-mail:reheerdink@isis.cs.du.edu)

Yes, it is true.  I work in a video store and there is a series coming out.  Th
e first tape has footage not shown in the US.  It should be very interesting.
It also has a different version of "Who killed Laura Palmer?"
Am I the only one, or is Sherilyn Fenn(Audrey) the most beautiful creature on e
arth?

From the "For What It's Worth" Department:


Wall Street Journal, "Legal Beat," November 14, 1991, p.B9:

"TWIN PEAKS GUIDE violated TV show's copyright and trademark,
judge rules.
"The unauthorized book, published by Publications International Ltd.,
Chicago, and Penguin Books USA Inc., New York, was known both as "Welcome
to Twin Peaks" and "Unauthorized Twin Peaks." U.S. District Judge
John S. Martin ruled that the book's use of "dozen's of" direct
quotations from the show and the name Twin Peaks violated the copyright
and trademark held by Twin Peaks Productions Inc., which is co-owned by
the director and producer of the short-lived series. Penguin is a
division of S. Pearson PLC.
"Martin Garbus, an attorney at Frankfurt, Garbus, Klein & Selz, who
represents Penguin USA, said the publishing firm would appeal the case.
In the meantime, Judge Martin has ordered the parties in the case to
meet later this month in order to determine the extent of the damages
caused by the publication."

Does anyone have any information as to when the conclusio to the series will be done?
And in what form???


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In article <7324@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> glove@cs.strath.ac.uk (Graeme G Love IE3) writes:
> >Does anyone have any information as to when the conclusio to the series will be done?
> >And in what form???

Errrr.... What about the film.... ??

aJg

In article <91316.084807LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA> LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA writes:

> >     He plays the old Ted Cassidy role. Also Ed and Nadine are in THE PEOPLE
> >UNDER THE STAIRS. Is it true as ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY reports that Wendy Robie i
> >s a female impersonator ?

I haven't read the EW article, buy my school newspaper also reported this:
"There is an interesting footnote in casting: the mother is played
by a female impersonator (Wendy Robie), who is the epitome of
bitchiness."

I guess she (he)'s doing a good job.  I wouldn't have guessed this
from watching TP.

Rocky Giovinazzo

In article <91315.161922V50ZJP@HASARA11.BITNET> V50ZJP@HASARA11.BITNET (Jan Paul Barends) writes:
>> >>        So how is the backward-backward speech handled?  Do you get
>> >>sub-sub titles?  That is, are the English subtitles removed by Lynch/Frost
>> >>before exporting overseas?
> >Nope, they copied part of the picture over the american subtitles and put
> >the Dutch  ones (more or less) on top of that. It's a technique they also
> >use to hide the information like name and function of people that are
> >being interviewed in documentaries as the position of these would overlap
> >with the (Dutch) subtitles and put the name/job info somewhere else in the
> >picture (like on top).

For what it's worth... on the Japanese laserdisc of the Euroversion (series
premier plus about 18 minutes), the Japanese subtitles that have been running
horizontally at the bottom of the picture suddenly jump to a vertical display
at the right edge of the screen when these English subtitles come in.  They
return to the horizontal/bottom-of-screen position when the English subtitles
end.  Nice attention to detail, I thought.
-- -larryy@apple.com "Shi Nou Kou Sho Inu Neko Programmer" - Takada Naoki

giovin@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:

> >In article <91316.084807LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA> LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA writes:

>> >>     He plays the old Ted Cassidy role. Also Ed and Nadine are in THE PEOPLE
>> >>UNDER THE STAIRS. Is it true as ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY reports that Wendy Robie i
>> >>s a female impersonator ?

> >I haven't read the EW article, buy my school newspaper also reported this:
> >"There is an interesting footnote in casting: the mother is played
> >by a female impersonator (Wendy Robie), who is the epitome of
> >bitchiness."

> >I guess she (he)'s doing a good job.  I wouldn't have guessed this
>from watching TP.

Whoa, whoa. whoa.  Wendy Robie isn't a woman?  Wow.  Anybody else got info on
this?  
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 A friend of mine, John Slonecker, has been doing some double-acting in the 
states, and reports that the movie is now finished and is being prepared to 
be edited as far as he knows. The majority of the film was done at night, in 
a part of Washington called Bellvue, or at least the parts done in 
Washington state.
 Apparently Lynch personally thanked every extra actor for the exterior 
scenes and was an extremely nice man, although he was apparently not 
directing so much on the set as instead he was usually apparently off to the 
side viewing everything off a monitor to see how it would look.
 
 My friend found Mr. Lynch sitting alone reading a script of some sort 
during a break, and asked him, on behalf of myself, any advice to offer to  
a film student. Apparently the advice that was passed onto my, directly from 
David Lynch was, "To stay in school, keep your head clean, and you'll haved 
me whooped." Read into that as you will...!
 
  Also, on one of the last nights of shooting, there was a closed set. And  
there's a possible SPOILER here, so anybody who wants to be kept in the 
dark, you better skip the rest of this message, because I don't want to 
ruin the enjoyment of surprise:
 
 
 Last Chance...?
 
 Apparently at the end of the movie, there is an orgy scene and Leland 
Palmer ends up as not only a rapist, but also a murderer. If anybody wants 
any other details, feel free to email me.

Did anyone see "Night Court" last night?  I know, I know, such a
travesty of television should be eradicated from existance, but 
guess who was a walk-on?  Pierre Renault.  That's right, the big guy
who once spewed such magical and poetic lines such as, "Bite the
bullet, baby, bite the bullet." is now on "Night Court".

Again, Twin Peaks alum are getting many jobs in the tempermental world
of acting.  Does everyone believe that this is a direct result of
directors of other show being Peakers?  It is my working theory.
-- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % e-mail: marbach@feserve.cc.purdue.edu % % Mailer-DAEMON: returned mail, user unknown % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Did anyone catch the Michael Jackson "Dangerous" special which
was on several stations earlier tonight.  I happened to catch the credits and
one of them said something like "Dangerous teaser directed by David Lynch".
I believe this refers to the cool computer graphicy type piece where Michael's
head floats closer to the camera which has also been showing on MTV recently.

Does anyone know anything more about this Lynch/Jackson collaboration?
I had heard that David Lynch was gonna direct one of the videos for his new
album, or were they just talking about this short teaser?

Big leap from Chris Isaak to Michael Jackson though...


-Steven Greco
slg20427@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
"What you think is nothing, might be something after all."

Does anyone know what address I can use to write to Madchen Amick? I would
 very much appreciate any help anyone can give. Please email any responses to 
01sybok@ac.dal.ca because I do not get many chances to read this newsgroup!
Thank you
Mike

In article <26358@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, marbach@fe505.cc.purdue.edu writes:
> > 
> > Did anyone see "Night Court" last night?  I know, I know, such a
> > travesty of television should be eradicated from existance, but 
> > guess who was a walk-on?  Pierre Renault.  That's right, the big guy


Well, you get two owlie points (TM) for spelling Renault correctly, as
it was thoroughly abused in months past.  I believe that the big
guy's name was "Jaques".  I think Pierre was the skinny brother who was
interrogated by Cooper at the bookhouse. Later killed by Leo.

> > who once spewed such magical and poetic lines such as, "Bite the
> > bullet, baby, bite the bullet." is now on "Night Court".
> > 
> > Again, Twin Peaks alum are getting many jobs in the tempermental world
> > of acting.  Does everyone believe that this is a direct result of
> > directors of other show being Peakers?  It is my working theory.
> > -- 
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> > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

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Darragh Nagle  "I don't know what was in that drink last night,
                but this morning I felt like Coop with the toothpaste!"
dawn@netcom.netcom.com

I'd like to get the Nielsen (was that spelled right) rating points and share 
figures for the TP shows that were aired in US, I hope someone out there 
can help me. If you also know how each show did placewise (how it placed 
on the chart that lists programs by their number of audience, you know
Roseanne is 1st, Cheers is 2nd etc)can you also send that information. I read
somewhere that one of the last shows placed 82nd out of 85.

In article <26358@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, marbach@fe505.cc.purdue.edu writes:
> > Again, Twin Peaks alum are getting many jobs in the tempermental world
> > of acting.  Does everyone believe that this is a direct result of
> > directors of other show being Peakers?  It is my working theory.

I saw "Andy" again on Eerie, Indiana this weekend.  He was trying to be
a scary cop.  Actually, he was almost trying to be a scary Dale Cooper.
Having once played Andy, I don't think he'll ever seem scary again...!
-- cdt@pdp.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...

> >/* Written 12:23 am  Nov  4, 1991 by fuzzbox@world.std.com in alt.tv.twin-peaks */
> >/* ---------- "Good and *bad* news about episodes " ---------- */
> >I just checked into my LaserDisc buyer for the latest news about
> >getting the episodes on disc. There's good news and bad news....
> >There is going to be a boxed set of all 29 episodes on disc.
> >The bad news is that as of now, they are only going to be available
> >in Japan, probably with Japanese subtitles. The worse news is that
> >importing them brings up the cost t about *SIX HUNDRED* dollarss.

    Which works out to about $20 per disc -- a little more than that, since
the cost was actually between $600 and $650, as I did the math.  They 
really couldn't be much lower than that, domestic or imported.
-- Don Porges
porges@inmet.camb.inmet.com
..uunet!inmet!porges

Would someone mind emailing me the complete version of Twin Peaks
spoilers file (or hint where to ftp it)?  

Thanks in advance!

--Ari
--
    Ari Suntioinen -- aps@cs.tut.fi        "Never send a man where
    Opiskelijankatu 4 C 162                 you can send a flame."
    33720 Tampere,  Finland

Man, I haven't frequented this group since the Death.  (Of TP, not LP.)
Since we seem to be reduced to commenting on spotting TP actors in other films
and shows, I thought I'd add one.  A couple weeks ago on the TBS late night
movie or somesuch, there was some awful old late-seventies (?) horror movie,
with a pseudo-Christian evil woman played by the actress who played Laura's
mother (forgot her name).  Her hapless follower was played by Carel Struycken,
the Giant.  Only caught a few minutes of it - it looked pretty awful.  Anyone
seen this movie as well?  Wonder if David Lynch discovered these two in this
cheese-flick...?

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Hi evewrybody out there 

Does anybody know about a Gif Site, that holds a few TP pics?
My 14 year old daughter is pestering me about it endlessly, wanting me to
print a couple on our printer here at home!!

PLEASE relief me  :-)


Answers as mail to my address please, since I don't get to read this group very
often, unless my daughter forces me! :-(


(I can feel a flame treat coming on......)

ThanxThomas
.

In this week's Entertainment Weekly, they corrected their identification
of her as a 'female impersonator' in their review of "The People Under
The Stairs".

-- Joel Tscherne - N8QVD Cleveland Free-Net: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu ======================================================================

::There is going to be a boxed set of all 29 episodes on disc.
::The bad news is that as of now, they are only going to be available
::in Japan, probably with Japanese subtitles. The worse news is that
::importing them brings up the cost t about *SIX HUNDRED* dollarss.

:    Which works out to about $20 per disc -- a little more than that, since
:the cost was actually between $600 and $650, as I did the math.  They 
:really couldn't be much lower than that, domestic or imported.
:-- Don Porges


Well, $20 per EPISODE.  Should be one episode per side, two per disc.
So that's $40 per disc and they should be able to beat that...

Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com

This came off the wire today:

LOS ANGELES--The daughter of "Coach" television star Jerry Van Dyke was found
hanged in her home, authorities said.  Kelly Jean Van Dyke-Nance, 33, was
found hanging by a rope Sunday night in the bedroom of a suburban North
Hollywood apartment she shared with her husband, Jack Nance, said police Lt.
Ron Larue.

The article goes on, but here's the question.  Does anyone know if this is
"our" Jack Nance, and if so where we could write with condolences?

I'm trying to locate a copy of the Time line for all the Twin Peaks Episodes.
Could someone please either send me a copy, or tell me of an FTP site.

Thanks, and please only reply by E-mail.

Paul.

In a previous article, jblum@next03epsl.wam.umd.edu (Jonathan Charles Blum) says:

> >This came off the wire today:
> >
> >LOS ANGELES--The daughter of "Coach" television star Jerry Van Dyke was found
> >hanged in her home, authorities said.  Kelly Jean Van Dyke-Nance, 33, was
> >found hanging by a rope Sunday night in the bedroom of a suburban North
> >Hollywood apartment she shared with her husband, Jack Nance, said police Lt.
> >Ron Larue.
> >
> >The article goes on, but here's the question.  Does anyone know if this is
> >"our" Jack Nance, and if so where we could write with condolences?
> >
I don't know.  And, please don't think of me insensitive or trying to 
be Peakish...I'm just curios...

Was this suicide or murder?

Keith
-- Your Choice ==> go fish

In article <1991Nov20.011551.5568@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely) writes:
>> >>The article goes on, but here's the question.  Does anyone know if this is
>> >>"our" Jack Nance, and if so where we could write with condolences?
>> >>
> >I don't know.  And, please don't think of me insensitive or trying to 
> >be Peakish...I'm just curios...
> >
> >Was this suicide or murder?

No note was found, but the authorities are treating it as a suicide.  And
no, she was _not_ wrapped in plastic.

Well, COOP (Citizens Opposing the Offing of Peaks) is apparently still alive
and finally making good on T-Shirt orders.  My check to them was dated May 21,
and was cashed May 29 (1991).  I received my shirt yesterday, Nov 19.
Amazing... the wheels grind slowly, but they do grind.

A half-page note accompanied the shirt with the following verbiage:

Dear COOP member:

As you well know, this tee is VERY, VERY _late_.  Unfortunately, you were one
of a small number of COOPers whose tee order got caught in the midst of some
unfortunate circumstances.  Those complications in the fulfillment process
have been solved---and we FINALLY got your tee to you.  We are sorry, and
hope you can forgive our mistake.

Also, as you know, we have become active again, this time in support of the
new David Lynch movie, TWIN PEAKS: FIRE, WALK WITH ME.  Mike just
returned from the set in Los Angeles, and reports that production has
wrapped!  David told him that he wants the COOP membership involved in
some special projects designed to support the release of the film as well as
some other worthy programs.

We are finally organized, and on the move.  You will hear from us soon; we
have some interesting developments on the horizon to tell you about.
Hopefully, our extremely tardy fulfillment of your order will not alienate you
from our ranks---we need your help now, more than ever.

Sincere apologies,
Keith and Mike

The Great Northern * 4201 North Lee Highway * Suite 805 * Arlington, VA 22207
H. Keith Poston, National President
Michael Caputo, National Director
-- -larryy@apple.com "Shi Nou Kou Sho Inu Neko Programmer" - Takada Naoki

In article <1991Nov18.163907.21206dawn@netcom.COM>, dawn@netcom.COM (Darragh Nagle) writes:
> > In article <26358@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, marbach@fe505.cc.purdue.edu writes:
>> > > 
>> > > Did anyone see "Night Court" last night?  I know, I know, such a
>> > > travesty of television should be eradicated from existance, but 
>> > > guess who was a walk-on?  Pierre Renault.  That's right, the big guy
> > 
> > 
> > Well, you get two owlie points (TM) for spelling Renault correctly, as
> > it was thoroughly abused in months past.  I believe that the big
> > guy's name was "Jaques".  I think Pierre was the skinny brother who was
> > interrogated by Cooper at the bookhouse. Later killed by Leo.
> > 

I stand corrected, (thanks for the email Duane), it was Bernard who
was interrogated by Cooper at the bookhouse, and the correct spelling
is "Jacques". 
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 Darragh Nagle            
 dawn@netcom.netcom.com

An automobile used by Agent Cooper in the "Twin Peaks" TV series is to
be auctioned at the City of Snoqualmie Surplus Public Auction.  The
'83 Dodge Diplomat is among other surplus items the city will sell.
The auction is Saturday, November 23rd at 10:00 AM at Snoqualmie Fire
Station, 210 River Street, Snoqualmie, WA.  Preview begins at 9:00 AM.

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS ACCOUNT, POSTED FOR A FRIEND.

For more information:
    call Larry Mroczek   (206) 329-6138
 or e-mail  lgreen@atc.boeing.com
-- Chris 'ski' Kacoroski "When we try to pick out anything by itself ski2@atc.boeing.com we find it connected to the entire universe" (206) 865-3455 John Muir

Can anyone tell me the number of episodes of Twin Peaks ?

Thanks.

                          Pascal ALEIXANDRE

I recently downloaded some GIFs from the remote audrey tp archive.
When I tried displaying these pictures, I got an "Internal error-contact
author" message.  Could someone please explain what I'm doing wrong so
that the hours I spent downloading weren't wasted?

Thanks in advance,
Brian Choplick
bchoplic@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

In article <1991Nov18.163907.21206dawn@netcom.COM> dawn@netcom.COM (Darragh Nagle) writes:
<In article <26358@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, marbach@fe505.cc.purdue.edu writes:
<> 
<> Did anyone see "Night Court" last night?  I know, I know, such a
<> travesty of television should be eradicated from existance, but 
<> guess who was a walk-on?  Pierre Renault.  That's right, the big guy
<
<
<Well, you get two owlie points (TM) for spelling Renault correctly, as
<it was thoroughly abused in months past.  I believe that the big
<guy's name was "Jaques".  

Bzzzzzt!!  It's "Jacques".


Grrrmph,

Jan Bielawski
Computervision R&D, San Diego
jpb@calmasd.prime.com

In article <1991Nov19.151742.26402@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:
> >
> >In this week's Entertainment Weekly, they corrected their identification
> >of her as a 'female impersonator' in their review of "The People Under
> >The Stairs".

What the hell were they thinking?  Why did they make the mistake?

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It was reported in the Daily Telegraph here in the UK that a cinema in
London plans to show all the TP episodes back to back all in one go -
now that would be an endurance test (hopefully coffee and doughnuts
supplied)!

Will let you all know of the date/location.

Paul R. Grove.

iru03@uk.ac.keele.seq1

"Tell me of your home world Usul".
"Chani, it had damn fine cherry pie".

In article <3931@kielo.uta.fi> psraah@uta.fi (Rami Ahonen) writes:
> >I'd like to get the Nielsen (was that spelled right) rating points and share 
> >figures for the TP shows that were aired in US, I hope someone out there 
> >can help me. If you also know how each show did placewise (how it placed 
> >on the chart that lists programs by their number of audience, you know
> >Roseanne is 1st, Cheers is 2nd etc)can you also send that information. I read
> >somewhere that one of the last shows placed 82nd out of 85. 

I tried to do my part, I really really did! 

See, I know a Nielsen family. They have this box which monitors their
television viewing. They must "reset" it each half-hour, so there is no
leaving a single channel on while they are gone. The box also includes
a modem which uploads the day's stats to a central computer.

I begged, pleaded, offered sacrifice, did anything I could to get them
to watch TP.

They did watch a few episodes, and they did like the music, but they
thought TP was too weird.

They prefer Northern Exposure (yawn).

Think Globally, act Locally...

-- Steven C. Neighorn neighorn@qiclab.scn.rain.com/neighorn@cse.ogi.edu SCN Research "Where we train the Star Fighters that defend the 10635 S.W. 127th Court frontier against Xur and the Ko-dan Armada" Tigard, Oregon 97223-1964 home: (503) 641-3469

A recent post made me wonder...

What are the ratings for TP like in countries now showing it? Assuming there is
such a thing as ratings (I don't know).

Is it more successful than the second season was here?

An article in the (UK) Guardian Newspaper (Thursday 21/11/91).

Titled : A feast of Peaks viewing - with cherry pie.  (By Phillipa Bloom)

The publicity machine behind the forthcoming release of David Lynch's
entire Twin Peaks series on video has devised a promotional campaign of
truly Lynchian wierdness. VIP guests to a specially-arranged Twin Peaks party
(Gothic mansion venue, simultaneous screenings of a 35 episodes, doughnut
buffet, Peaks dress optional) have already been subjected to postal deliveries
of logs, cryptic clues, cherry pie and coffee. Lesser Peakies, meanwhile, can
look forward to a staggering 29-hours, non-stop public screening of the whole 
of the cult series at London's Prince Charles cinema in February, for which the
audience will be invited to dress as their favourite Twin Peaks character. An
exclusive 50-minute preview clip of Lynch's film version of his TV series -
Fire Walk With Me - will be screened at the same time. For stay-at-home fans
10 Twin Peaks videos (#12.99; pounds !! each) will eventually be available.
The first four 135-minute tapes are released this week with the remaining
six coming out in the spring. Damn fine idea.

[end of article].


135 minute tapes which would mean 3 episodes a tape for 12.99
which is reasonable.

Anybody going to the screening as Laura (wrapped in plastic) ???

I wonder where they got the idea for the publicity campaign ??
I would guess we have to thank the various chapters of C.O.O.P. for that !!!



Neil Postlethwaite

MSc Knowledge Based Systems



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In a previous article, agardine@cs.strath.ac.uk (Alistair J Gardiner CS4) wrote:
> >In article <7324@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> glove@cs.strath.ac.uk (Graeme G Love IE3) writes:
>> >>Does anyone have any information as to when the conclusio to the series will be done?
>> >>And in what form???
> > 
> >Errrr.... What about the film.... ??
> > 
> >aJg

The movie isn't really a conclusion.  It's more of a beginning.  It deals
with the incidents BEFORE the TV series.  What I think Graeme wants to
know (as well as a lot of other people) is when are we going to find out
what happens to Cooper (and everyone else) after his 'posession' (sp) by
BOB, and will it be another movie, a TV move, or (I hope) another
session of TP on TV.

Darryl

In response to a post requesting information on Twin Peaks on video:

World Vision Video has released the first seven episodes on videotape,
in a boxed set.  It retails for somewhere around $90.00.  What absolutely
ROTS about this set, though, is that it starts off with episode 001, and
does NOT include the pilot episode.  What I have not been able to determine
is if the pilot episode is indeed available on tape as well.  I am also
unsure if the rest of the series will be released.  Betcha Columbia House
Video puts Peaks in their subscription program.



Skip Haughay


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A couple of days ago I walked into a local video specialty
store and found (and then purchased) a new TP boxed set.
The big news is it contains 29 episodes, that's every one
except for the original pilot.  Picture and sound quality
are very good (I've only had time to watch the first 7, but
tonight we're starting the second season pilot).

The price was $89.95, which is $10 less than the store sells
the original boxed set for.

SSHOOP@cc.weber.edu

PS. my friend went the next day and bought the only other copy
available in Utah!




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This was a good day!  After a tip and a phone call to the local mall
I jumped in my car and away I went.  I soon found myself standing at
the neon lit entrance of the new "Suncoast Motion Picture Company"
(this retail store sell nothing but video tapes and laserdiscs).  I
walked up to the counter and asked the very attractive young lady
stand there if she was the one I had spoken to on the phone, she
smiled assured me that she was reached beneath the counter and came up
with a 6 pack of video tapes, 6 tapes totaling 29 hours on nonstop
Twin Peaks!

At last!  "Worldvision" has done it!  They are all here (with the
exception of the pilot which I have in the 'euro' form)!  COOL!  No
more being at the mercy of TV programers, no more cursing myself for
not having recorderd every episode!  It's party time!  :-)

While I do find the video quality somewhat lacking (the tapes are
recorded in EP, this is how they got 29 hrs on 6 tapes) the fact that
the full 29 hours is here more then makes up for the slight lack of
quality.  To be perfectly honest the tapes look as good as anything I
have recorded off of my TV (I fear my Laserdisc player has spoiled
me).  The cost? Something like $3.11 per hour, this 6 pack was $89.98.

Well it's Friday night the party is set, my guests are beginning to
arrive and the marathon is about to begin!  I wish you all could be
here, the pie and coffee smells damned fine!!!

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Subject: Details on "Collectors Edition" boxed videotape set
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Like many of you, I did not have much luck finding the new boxed set
of all 29 TP episodes in many video stores.  Based on postings here,
I finally succeeded when I checked at my local outlet of the Suncoast
Motion Picture Company national chain.

To date, all of the successful purchases that I've heard of
were made at other Suncoast outlets across the country.  None of the
big chains (Tower, Wherehouse, Blockbuster, etc.) that I checked with
even knew about the Collectors Edition.  If you have found it
at other stores, perhaps you could post a short note saying where.

So beware of people trying to sell you the original boxed set
that only has the seven first season episodes (one per tape in SP mode)
and sells for $99.  Ask for the "Collectors Edition" with
all 29 episodes on *six* tapes (EP mode) and sells for $89.

Ordering information:

Title: Twin Peaks "Special Collectors Edition"
Distributor: Worldvision Home Video
Catalog numbers:  5070 (for the whole set of 6 tapes)

                  tapes are also supposed to be available individually:

                  5059 (Episodes 1-5)
                  5060 (Episodes 6-9, ep. 8 is 2-hour 2nd season premiere)
                  5061 (Episodes 10-14)
                  5062 (Episodes 15-19)
                  5063 (Episodes 20-24)
                  5064 (Episodes 25-29)

Each is approximately 4 hours long (5 episodes x 48 minutes).  See the
short-form episode guide for details on episodes (I will post this again
or e-mail me for it).  Note that the two-hour finale shown on TV
(sometimes referred to as 2021 on the net) is broken into the final
two episodes (28 and 29) on this set.

Note also that there are no episode recaps ("previously on Twin Peaks")
or previews ("next on Twin Peaks") and of course, none of the Log Lady
intros being shown on Bravo (Lynch produced these specifically for
Bravo).

Further note that this set does NOT include the 2-hour pilot.  As
regular readers of this newsgroup are well aware, the only version
of the pilot available commercially is the extended "European"
version with an alternate ending.  This is likely to remain the
case since Warner Home Video owns the rights to that.  (If you're
seeking the broadcast version of the pilot, you'll have to enquire
about getting a copy from someone on the net or keep your eye out
for the Bravo rebroadcast of the entire series sometime in '94.
Or alternatively, enquire about how/when to truncate the "European"
pilot version before the alternate ending.)

A note on video/audio quality of this set: although the tapes are
recorded in the EP (slow) mode, the quality is quite good--certainly
better than I have been able to make myself from the Bravo broadcasts.
In the episodes I've checked so far, there do not appear to be any
of the audio dropouts/surround sound glitches some people have
experienced with the broadcasts.  Serious videophiles may want to
hold off for the eventual release of the next 3 laseridsc boxed
sets of the 2nd season episodes (Vol. 2 was just announced for
mid-December release--see my separate posting on that), but for
the reasonable price of this Collectors Edition, it's worth having
all the episodes now (IMHO).

Feel free to email me if you have other specific questions about the
boxed set.

-- Jim
--
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jasonhal@girtab.usc.edu (Jason Hall) writes:

> > Spoiler!!!!!!!  skip now or never 
> > 
> > 
> > I can't tell you where I know this from, and I can't really tell you anything
> > else I know about the movie (once it comes out I'll post how I know) because 
> > made a promise, but Cooper is still in the Black Lodge and it all has somethi
> > 

One question that I think you will be able to answer. Will we find out in 
the movie?
                                                  ---==p>Salmieri<p==---

In article <pquince.693167271@blacks> pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince) writes:
> >And 
> >
> >"i'm not Bob, Laura Palmer"
> >
> >is an even *longer* audio palindrome.
> >
> >pq

I suppose this is based on an earlier posting that said that when you take
an audio recording of "Laura Palmer" and put into some computer software,
electronically tweeze it, turn it around and play it back you get:
"I'm not Bob". I resisted responding to that post, but can resist no more.

How in Hell can "Laura Palmer" backwards be "I'm not Bob"?

- They don't have the same number of syllables.
- Where, for example, do the "B" sounds in "Bob" come from?

Let's try something:

"I'm not Bob", phonetically (using my own notation) is: "iym naht bahb";
Reversed you get: "bahb tahn my".

"Laura Palmer", phonetically is: "lawruh pahmuhr";
Reversed: "ruhmap uhrwall".

Do we see ANY similarity between these two?: "bahb tahn my"
                                             "ruhmap uhrwall"

I don't.

-Steve

In article <1991Dec19.215639.26533@cbnewsm.att.com> srm1@cbnewsm.att.com (steven.r.marcovici) writes:
> >In article <pquince.693167271@blacks> pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince) writes:
>> >>"i'm not Bob, Laura Palmer"
>> >>is an even *longer* audio palindrome.
[nothing important deleted]
> >
> >How in Hell can "Laura Palmer" backwards be "I'm not Bob"?
> >- They don't have the same number of syllables.
> >- Where, for example, do the "B" sounds in "Bob" come from?
> >Let's try something:
> >"I'm not Bob", phonetically (using my own notation) is: "iym naht bahb";
> >Reversed you get: "bahb tahn my".
> >"Laura Palmer", phonetically is: "lawruh pahmuhr";
> >Reversed: "ruhmap uhrwall".
> >Do we see ANY similarity between these two?: "bahb tahn my"
> >                                             "ruhmap uhrwall"
> >I don't.
> >
> >-Steve
Look, steve, if this stuff were that simple, everyone would talk that way.
Unfortunately, it ain't.  The kind of stuff you get when you play sounds
backwards is near impossible (by me, anyway) to predict.  If it was just
the phonemes in reversed order, it would sound like another language, not 
the demonic gibberish that you hear in these episodes, and in psychedelic
music, and anywhere else you might have happened across backwards speech.
The outcome doesn't necessarily follow the rules of syllables and etc.  I
haven't heard these sounds backwards, but I intend to.  If these people say
that "I'm not Bob" backwards is "Laura Palmer," I will believe them, it seems
quite plausible and just the sort of thing that would surface out of this 
strange montage we call a show.
Sorry if this sounds like a flame, it wasn't supposed to.

-- Denis/Tesser M Moskowitz Jen ferocxa malbona kuniklo; rigardu liajn dmoskowi@jarthur.claremont.edu sovagxajn vangharojn, kaj liajn ungojn kaj This Is Realtime! lian faldan voston.

I personally found much similarity between the "Get Smart!" theme song as 
(and) "The Immigrant Song" by Led Zeppelin. Is it me?

                        -Uzer

As far as The Clothestime commercial stands... It's either one of two 
things, neither of which can be too good:

1. Angelo Badalamenti has gotten to the point where he's ripping off his 
   OWN music schtick..
2. Somebody has shamelessly copied his musical stylings, specifically 
   from "Rockin' Back Inside My Heart."

Yep, looks like the 90's to me.

I have known about alt.tv.twin-peaks for some time.  The other day I had the 
chance to ftp the gifs of Audrey from audrey.sait.edu.au .

Oh my god it was just what I needed to cheer me up at the time.  Boom!
There she was. 

I have Fenn1, fenn2, ..., and sherilyn1. Totalling 4 gifs altogether.

Does anyone have anymore TP gif contributions?  I'm sure we all could
benefit from a few more snapshots.

**    **
** I think we are all aware of the tragedy of the alt.tv.twin-peaks  FTPing **
**of the audrey gifs, so let's make sure... well Jerry says it better **
**    **
**         "Clearly, this man's stairs do not reach the attic!"             **
**    **

  You can eliminate a post, and send any info to me via e-mail.

  Previous Thanks,  acidman.


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In <1991Dec18.194040.4638@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> irelanda@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Andrew Ireland) writes:
> >Over here in the UK, every christmas we have a glut of ads on th tube showing
> >perfumes, aftershaves etc.....

> >so it was to my great surprise that last night, I saw Maddie in an ad for
> >OBSESSION by calvin Klien.  Its the one with the F. Scott Fitzgerald quote
> >in it!

I disagree - I think it is Annie (Copp's lurv :-) [or rather the
actress that portrays Annie]

Just my 2p worth
--
  Cerebus
ObPissTake@uk.ac.ed.net.cabal : Fried porridge ??!! Ha Ha Ha Ha

I've been watching the video of episodes 1-3, and the thing that's struck me
the most is how often there's a reference to something which is only explained
several episodes later: This occurred to me before when watching the trailer -
I'd never realised that the affair between Bobby and Shelly was set up in the
*first*scene*, for example. The things that surprised me, watching the early
episodes again, were the following:

1) How early on BOB comes onto the scene - I'd sort of felt that nobody
actually saw him until about episode 5 or 6; (or maybe I'm just dumb - I must
confess it wasn't until about episode 4 or so that I really started to get
hooked)

2) This is something I hadn't noticed before, and what's more that I can't
remember being discussed in a.tv.tp: The Bookhouse boys' secret salute. This
consists of running the index finger down the right side of the face from
brow-line to jaw. Now that I've noticed it, the BB's seem to do it all the
time: but it had never registered before.

On the other hand, maybe I'm just naturally dense...
-- &ndy Holyer, School of Cognitive and | "An alcoholic is a man you don't Computing Studies, University of Sussex, | like who drinks as much as you JANET: andyh@cogs.sussex.ac.uk | do" --- Dylan Thomas

chuck@melmac.Harris-ATD.com (Chuck Musciano) writes:

> >In article <1991Dec16.172639.26568@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> berninge@peptide.ecn.purdue.edu (James A Berninger) writes:
>> >> Has anyone else noticed the similarity between the theme from "Get
>> >> Smart" (dah da-daaaaaaaa dah!) and Audrey's Theme from "Twin Peaks"?

> >     I've always marvelled at the closeness of the Leave It To Beaver
> >and Alfred Hitchcock themes.

How about the Simpsons theme and the Jetsons theme?  Those are QUITE
similar.  And there's another theme that I always note, but I can't
remember at the moment...
-- --------------------------> lis@cs.brandeis.edu <-------------------------- Elyssa of PernMUSH |"Well don't come whining to me. HelenaTroi of MythMUSH | Just tell him you'll poison him Elisabeth Anne Riba in RL | back." --Chas Addams

 By popular demand, a lot of people sent me some email regarding their 
beliefs that the David Lynch Interviethat was done with the Canadian 
Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) had been cut-off. In fact, I didn't get all 
of it typed in because I ran out of room on the message, and decided to 
leave it at that. There still is more to it, and the continuation of the 
interview from where I left off i to follow.
 
 I would just like to interject another posting of my David Lynch 
Information Request:
 I am a film student currently attending the University of British Columbia, 
and will be writing a major term paper on the work, the life and generally 
the all around genius of David LyTo compile such a paper I am in need of as 
much information as I can dig up from magazines, and videotaped television 
appearances--some of which I've been lucky to get my hands on, and I've been 
even luckier to get a chance to speak with actors who have worked with 
Lynch.
 I might already have something you have, but if you have any newsclippings 
from magazines or newspapers, or perhaps any copies of videotaped television 
appearanes that Mr. Lynch has made, I would be very appreciative if you 
could email me regarding them.
 As I come across these items, as I pool them together, I will post them 
because I presume it is subject matter that all of you, even those who might 
not have anything of use to me would be interested to read. So, if you can 
help, please email me at:
 
stevedal@tz.wimsey.bc.ca
 
Seasons Greetngs. I hope the second smaller portion of the interview is of 
use or of enjoyment to you...
 
 
Q:For Whom?
LYNCH: I'd rather not say, because that would give them free publicity. But 
I really enjoy doing it, especially when I'm given the freedom to do what I 
want. They're like little bitty mood movies.
Q:What made you choose Julie Cruise for you Twin Peaks soundtrack?
LYNCH: She was someone Angelo Badalamenti and I started working with back in 
the Blue Velvet days. We made an album with Julie, and while we were making  
a song called "The Nightengale", I pictured dancing in the road-house in 
Twin Peaks. And the song "Falling" that Julie sings seemed like the perfect 
kind of music to start the feel of Twin Peaks. And so it worked its way in.
Q: Why did you make a video from one of Chris Isaak's tunes in Wild at 
Heart?
LYNCH: I found out about Chris Isaak during Blue Velvet as well, and I fell 
in love with his music. I heard his song "Wicked Game", and it worked its 
way into Wild at Heart. Then the studio asked ifI would do a music video for 
the music and the film, and I did. I think it has a beautiful feel, 
primarily thanks to his fantastic music.
Q: What do you think of music video's in general?
LYNCH: If the music conjures up certain images and you're able to understand 
them, I think it can be a beautiful marriage between picture and sound. 
That's what I love about film; in the marriage of picture and sound, the 
whole becomes greater than the sum of the parts. It doesn't happen all the 
time in music video's, but it could.
 
 THE END.

In article <lis.693233431@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
> >How about the Simpsons theme and the Jetsons theme?  Those are QUITE
> >similar.

I noticed that, too! I always assumed it was just me.
--
John A. Breen                   |
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Tel: (314)234-4341              |

In article <1991Dec16.172639.26568@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, berninge@peptide.ecn.purdue.edu (James A Berninger) writes:
|> Has anyone else noticed the similarity between the theme from "Get
|> Smart" (dah da-daaaaaaaa dah!) and Audrey's Theme from "Twin Peaks"?
|> I had to listen to my TP soundtrack about 20 times before I finally
|> figured out where I heard that melody before.

Yes!!
I never watched Twin Peaks, but I used to hear this song on the radio.  I 
remember the first time I heard it, I thought they ripped it off from
Get Smart!.

Bob Warznak
backyard.bellcore.com
Bell Communications Research
(908) 699-2488

hamlet@ravel.udel.edu (Chris Adams) writes:

> >In article <pquince.693167271@blacks> pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince) writes:
>> >>"i'm not Bob, Laura Palmer"
>> >>is an even *longer* audio palindrome.

> >do you know what a palindrome is?

Yes, I do.  A palindrome is somebody, like me, who posts on the net
in response to another posting without bothering to think that email
might be more direct and not such a waste of everyone's time.

And do you know what a scientist is?  Its somebody who tests things
before reaching conclusions.  Just because it doesn't seem possible
doesn't mean its not worth testing... who knows?  It just might work!

Of course, if Richard is lying to me about it, I'll be damn mad.

peter quince

In article <1991Dec20.142007.22470@wuecl.wustl.edu> jab3@cec1.wustl.edu (John Alonzo Breen) writes:
> >In article <lis.693233431@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
>> >>How about the Simpsons theme and the Jetsons theme?  Those are QUITE
>> >>similar.
> >
> >I noticed that, too! I always assumed it was just me.


     It's intentional and deliberate.....

__________________________________________________________
Terry Laskodi"There's a permanent crease
     of in your right and wrong."
TektronixSly and the Family Stone, "Stand!"
__________________________________________________________

In article <10140@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, ~jmss89%gloriana@uk.ac.soton.ecs (Cerebus) writes:
> > In <1991Dec18.194040.4638@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> irelanda@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Andrew Ireland) writes:
>> > >so it was to my great surprise that last night, I saw Maddie in an ad for
>> > >OBSESSION by calvin Klien.  Its the one with the F. Scott Fitzgerald quote
>> > >in it!
> > 
> > I disagree - I think it is Annie (Copp's lurv :-) [or rather the
> > actress that portrays Annie]

Lynch DIRECTED an ad for Obsession.  It was the ad they parodied on
Saturday Night Live.  I couldn't tell you if it was the one that
had a Fitzgerald quote in it or not.
-- cdt@pdp.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...

Hello to all people in Germany and the Netherlands,
who watch ^TWIN PEAKS^ via RTL+ and RTL4:

According to my TV guide and the teaser sent this evening, RTL
will only send 20 episodes!

I would like to know, if RTL had bought the rights of the other 7 episodes,
or if they didn't! 


Bye, Marc

In <pquince.693255177@blacks> pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince) writes:

> >hamlet@ravel.udel.edu (Chris Adams) writes:

>> >>In article <pquince.693167271@blacks> pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince) writes:
>>> >>>"i'm not Bob, Laura Palmer"
>>> >>>is an even *longer* audio palindrome.

>> >>do you know what a palindrome is?

> >Yes, I do.  A palindrome is somebody, like me, who posts on the net
> >in response to another posting without bothering to think that email
> >might be more direct and not such a waste of everyone's time.

> >And do you know what a scientist is?  Its somebody who tests things
> >before reaching conclusions.  Just because it doesn't seem possible
> >doesn't mean its not worth testing... who knows?  It just might work!

> >Of course, if Richard is lying to me about it, I'll be damn mad.

> >peter quince

Well, I wouldn't say lying...   I just tried it here, and it would be
stretching it to say they are palindromes.  I could kinda sorta maybe
say they sounded remotely similar.  I just it depends upon your accent.

s"Everyone's creeping up to the money god,
j putting tongues where they didn't ought to be" - cm

  I unfortunatly never saw the last epiosde, so I never got to see all this
ending (although it sounds like it was great and vintage Lynch)  I'm 
wondering if anyone ahs any movie suggestions since I may be making a run 
the the video store soon.  Also I'd like someone the mail me a number where 
I could call and get some of these elusive Twin Peaks Gif's, I'm on thhe US 
west coast, but I don't mind LD if thats the only way, or better if someone 
could send it to me via mail or something!  Thanks in advance
                                The Hobbit




--                    
 hobbit@netlink.cts.com (Pierre Cadieux)  
 NetLink Online Communications    --    San Diego, CA  (619) 435-6181

The "Laura Palmer"/"I'm not BOB" palindrome really does work.  A friend
and I sampled both phrases on his Casio, reversed them, and they played
just like a palindrome.  Now I have to wonder if Lynch had this planned...

John Schultz (caffeine abuser)  !  ABC killed Laura Palmer
c491153@umcvmb.bitnet           !  Macintosh-free and proud of it!
c491153@umcvmb.missouri.edu     !  Subscriber to the hacker ethic

cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:

> > Lynch DIRECTED an ad for Obsession.  It was the ad they parodied on
> > Saturday Night Live.  I couldn't tell you if it was the one that
> > had a Fitzgerald quote in it or not.

Actually, Lynch directed a series of Obsession ads -- all of which 
feature "sensual" quotations by famous authors (I have also seen quotes 
from the works of D.H. Laurence and Gustave Flaubert used in the ads). I 
believe it is Lara Flynn Boyle in the commercial, along with James 
Marshall -- two familiar TP faces. They were the only known actors used 
in the commercials, to my knowledge, and I believe they were the two in 
the Fitzgerald quote.

BTW, the Obsession commercials feature AUTHENTIC Badalamenti music!

                        -Uzer

In article <pquince.693255177@blacks> pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince) writes:
> >hamlet@ravel.udel.edu (Chris Adams) writes:
>> >>In article <pquince.693167271@blacks> pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince) writes:
>>> >>>"i'm not Bob, Laura Palmer"
>>> >>>is an even *longer* audio palindrome.
>> >>do you know what a palindrome is?
> >Yes, I do.  A palindrome is somebody, like me, who posts on the net
> >in response to another posting without bothering to think that email
> >might be more direct and not such a waste of everyone's time.

Please...do yourself and us a favor:  go to a 
dictionary and look up the word palidrome.  It
*doesn't* mean what you think it does.




-- "Why, if one wants to compare life to anything, one must liken it to being blown through the Tube at fifty miles an hour--landing at the other end without a single hair- pin in one's hair!" --Virginia Woolf

srm1@cbnewsm.att.com (steven.r.marcovici) writes:

> > How in Hell can "Laura Palmer" backwards be "I'm not Bob"?
> > 
> > "I'm not Bob", phonetically (using my own notation) is: "iym naht bahb";
> > Reversed you get: "bahb tahn my".
> > 
> > "Laura Palmer", phonetically is: "lawruh pahmuhr";
> > Reversed: "ruhmap uhrwall".

Ah -- the problem is that you're working from how they're >spelled<, not 
how the words are actually spoken. Speakers of English often swallow
unaccented end syllables of words. Thus, "Laura Palmer" often sounds more
like "lawr' pahlmuh". Run this backward, and you have "umlahp 'rawl".

Now, especially running backward, consonants are at best indistinct -- we quite
often guess them from context. The "p" at the beginning (or reversed end)
is recognisable as a hard consonant -- which might well be a "t".

Soft consonants can be a total guess, sounding what you want them to sound
like. If this weren't true, a lot of record-burning televangelist would have
a much harder time telling us that we hear backward Satanism in rock songs.
Case for further study: The instance where many heard John Lennon's muttered
"cranberry sauce" as "I buried Paul".

Take all these into account. and it's easy to hear how
"umlahp 'rawl" might be heard as
"umnaht 'bahb".

Ain't phonetics grand.
--
"Go to an extreme and then retreat to a more useful position"  --  Brian Eno
Joe Zitt        ...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe         (512)450-1916

First, let me say that I'm one of those people who used to think computers  
were useless to me.  Then, I came across ALT.TV.TWIN-PEAKS, and, boy, have  
I changed my mind.  Finally, I know there are Lynch fans out there.  I  
find that they are few and far between.

Anyway, since this is my first post, I thought I'd give you all my humble  
opinion on the show's ending.  I liked it.  It fits right in with the  
dark, underlying sense of evil I picked up throughout the show.  Besides,  
who said that the good guys ALWAYS have to win?  Despite Cooper's great  
detective skills and the help he got from his friends (both known and  
unknown), it always seemed obvious to me that he would be no match for Bob  
and the Lodge when it came time to confront them.

Yours, happy at last,
Michael J. Winston

Yesterday I bought a maxi CD with a disco version of "Falling" --
not bad at all! 

    Twin Peaks FALLING Remix by D.J. Herbie  

It's a bit like Suzanne Vega & DNA...

My Question:  What Twin Peaks related records do you know?
------------


Bye, Marc

In article <kksotoINNgd4@girtab.usc.edu> jasonhal@girtab.usc.edu (Jason Hall) writes:

   Spoiler!!!!!!!  skip now or never 


   I can't tell you where I know this from, and I can't really tell you anything
   else I know about the movie (once it comes out I'll post how I know) because I 
   made a promise, but Cooper is still in the Black Lodge and it all has something to do with corn.

Corn!  Now we can make tortillas!

-30-
Bob

RE> From: carande@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Richard E. Carande)

Dear Richard,

there are people who get this area via telephone line and must pay for it.

Please don't post large UUEN coded files, rather try to make it public
via FTP or some BBS. (Remember the GIFs)


Bye, Marc

Seen in rec.arts.sf.tv: maybe alt.tv.twin-peaks doesn't have very good
distribution in the UK?

brian@rtf.bt.co.uk (Brian N Butterworth) writes:

> > I had the misfortune to purchase one of the Twin Peaks video cassetes the
> > other day.  I was quite prepared to fork out the #13 for three episodes that
> > it cost - so I could watch Twin Peaks in glorious stereo dobly surround
> > sound....
> > 
> > The tapes do not, however, posses Dolby Surround Sound.
> > 
> > Nor do they posses Stereo.
> > 
> > or indeed a Hi-Fi soundtrack of any description.
> > 
> > This can be found from reading the box, but it seems a complete travisty
> > to distribute the series with a hissy mono soundtrack.
> > 
> > Anyway, you have been warned
> > 
> > brian@rtf.bt.co.uk

--
..................      ................................................
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In article <1991Dec12.231724.3902@ohsu.edu> lillyj@ohsu3b2.ohsu.EDU (Jill Lilly) writes:
> >In article <1991Dec11.205831.9366@linus.mitre.org> lorrayne@smiley.mitre.org (Lorrayne Schaefer) writes:
>> >>
>> >>A friend of mine wants to make "Twin Peaks" Christmas tree ornaments
>> >>but couldn't think of interesting things.  The items she thought of to
>> >>decorate her tree are:  a doughnut, a coffee cup, plastic wrap, a
>> >>chess piece, a slice of cherry pie, and a couple of other things.  Any
>> >>other suggestions?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks
>> >>
>> >>Lorrayne Schaefer
>> >><lorrayne@smiley.mitre.org>
> >
> >How about owls, miniature logs, FBI badges, miniature saw blades (from the
> >saw mill)...
> >

And, for the TP-literate only, don't forget the 3-triangle symbol !



-- Bill Downing, President Email: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.usDOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC. 68 Washington St, Natick, MA 01760 508-655-3040

Marc_Van_Woerkom@dungeon.fido.de (Marc Van Woerkom) writes:


> >Hello to all people in Germany and the Netherlands,
> >who watch ^TWIN PEAKS^ via RTL+ and RTL4:

> >According to my TV guide and the teaser sent this evening, RTL
> >will only send 20 episodes!

Some of the episodes are not shown, cause some folks at RTL are the
opinion, that they are too confusing/psychedelic for the viewer.
Sad, but true.
-- Love and peace lumbert Surf Cowboy Marcel Zielinski See ya at SUNSET Beach ... (Europe(Germany(Berlin))) Smart: lumbert@lime.in-berlin.de Problems: lumbert@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de +++++++++/\++OG++=++++L+E+S+S++T+H+A+N++Z+E+R+O++++=++51++/\+++++++++++ Some alien from outerspace must have fucked my mother -- one fine day ----------- - Mein Computer ist besser als Dein Computer --------------

I just went to see Wes Craven's "The People Under the Stairs" last
night.  Much to my surprise, good old Ed (of Gas Farm fame) and 
Nadine (minus eye patch and drapery runners), starred in the film.
If you could stomach "Eraserhead", you should be able to watch this
one.  Good plot and you get to see Ed in a full black leather 
"slaying suit" that sort of a Metallica version of Spiderman's
tights and headress.  Nadine is spooky as ever and there are many
elements of her role in this movie that are similar to "Twin Peaks".
The child actor that has the protagonist's lead role does a wonderful
job; sort of a black Macaulay Culkin, if there can be such a thing.
Go see it, it's worth the $1.50.

-- Mark Sweiger Sequent Computer Systems Database Software Engineer 15450 SW Koll Parkway Office: (503)578-4329 Beaverton, Oregon 97006-6063 FAX: (503)578-7569 sweiger@sequent.com

Ironically, Entertainment Weekly called Wendy Robie (Nadine) a "female
impersonator" in the initial review of the movie.  Soon after, EW had Wendy
as one of the people they interview in their "Close Up" section.

A very nice "apology" if I do say so myself.

In article <jmralph.693057841@unix2.tcd.ie> jmralph@unix2.tcd.ie (john martin ralph) writes:
> >ISN'T IT WEIRD THAT BOB SPELLED  
> >BACKWARDS IS BOB! I WAS REALLY SHOOK UP
> >WHEN I REALISED THIS.THANK'S FOR LETTING 
> >ME SHARE THIS....  
> >F.O.A.D.T.U.2.

Did you know that the band '808 State' really is an allusion to 'BOB state'?
Did you know that 'bob' shown backwards is 'dod'?   
Did you know that 'owl in dream' and 'windom earl' contain the same letters?
Did you know that Julee Cruise and Tom Cruise have nothing in common, and
even less in common with a cruise missile?
Did you know that the character of Nadine was played by a woman?

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