Fire Walk with Me — August 28, 1992–December 31, 1992

In article <0a67RB1w165w@cyberden.uucp>, moon!cyberden!justice@well.sf.ca.us writes:
|> 
|> Also, does anyone know if there are any TP fan publications out there? Am 
|> very interested. If there aren't any major ones, then I'll start one.
|> -Justice
|> 
|> __________________________________________________________________________
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|>    | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!justice@well.sf.ca.us ]

You might want to reconsider.  1 1/2 years ago, I subscribed to the
Twin Peaks Gazette, which was essentially a fan publication.  For my
$29, I got my Sheriff's Department coffee mug, my TP address, and
three of the promised 12 issues.  They stopped publishing when the
show went off the air, saying that they would instead publish the
occasional issue.  I expected to see something near the release of
FWWM, but didn't.

With the show long gone, and the movie come and gone in a number of
markets, I think you might have a considerable problem trying to find
enough of an audience - especially a paying audience, especially if
they are former Gazette subscribers  - to make it worth your while.  A
weeks worth of this net, is usually far more interesting than the
three Gazettes I got combined.

Mark

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I've seen the US version and so-called euro-version of TP mentioned here in
this newsgroup. The question is : how do these two differ from each other ?

Pasi

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In article <1992Oct10.080948.2319@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, ramsey@spot.Colorado.EDU (L. Ron Hubbard) writes...
> >In article <78NasB1w165w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!justice@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>> >>OK. I've only received one line of input about my Chet in love with 
>> >>Teresa theory. Are you people blind to true love? Hell, I almost fell in 
>> >>love with Teresa just by seeing that picture that Leland is looking at of 
>> >>her in Flesh World. Well, discarding everything, does anyone have an 
>> >>opinion that would oppose mine and prove my "Love holds the key" theory 
>> >>wrong?

     Yes, I'd say it's ridiculously, ridiculously wrong.  :-)

> >The first time I saw the movie, I had to admit, the way Desmond was
> >scoping Teresa was rather...'unprofessional'.  The gaze went beyond mere
> >detectiving (nice word).  He seemed oddly fascinated, and can you blame him?

     No.  Can't he acknowledge beauty?  
     I would, more practically, link Desmond's expression to Cooper's:
     it's that childlike energy Coop brings to his investigations seen
     in Desmond.  (i.e., "The idea for all of this really... came from
     a dream?"  - with a big grin, "Yes... It did.").

> >What I'm not sure about is why really he went back to the trailer park.
> >I doubt an infatuation with Teresa would lead him to the Chalfonts (sp?)
> >trailer.  What drew him to the trailer.  The eerie light emanating from
> >within?  Hmmm...

     Agent Stanlet said straight out why Desmond was going back to
     the trailer park: for the Blue Rose.  Desmond follows "vibes"
     to the Chalfont trailer, according to the script, and Coop
     follows the same ones when he arrives at the park later on.

     The montage in that sequence is dealing with the "beep beep
     beep" in the phone poles, as well as the location of the
     Chalfont trailer in relation to the Deputy Drug Dealer's
     trailer and Teresa's trailer.

> >Anyways, in conclusion, I agree with your theory that Chet really dug
> >that crazy Teresa, man.  Groovy.

     Of all the things going on in those sequences, love isn't
     one.  I disagree.

                 Shortly  thereafter, the health of  Annie
                 Blackburn still in question, the behavior
                 of Special Agent  Dale Cooper was noticed
                 __________________________to have changed.
                                              Scott Gorcey.            

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I'm sorry if this is an old question, but...

In the first season, Jacques' blood type is confirmed to
be AB negative (matching that found on Leo's shirt).  However,
in 2001, it is stated that Jacques' blood type is NOT AB
negative (not matching that found on the bloody towl and that
used to write 'Fire walk with me' at the train site).

Sorry, but did I miss something?

Frank Derrigo III


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I went out and ordered the Peaks Mania CD, and was so happy when it came 
in, but the tracks are available in the US!

The 5 tracks different from the regular US CD are as follows: 

* = Track not on US version.

1. Twin Peaks Theme
2. Rockin Back Inside My Heart (Tibetian 12" Mix) *
3. "                         " (Bonus Beat) *
4. "                         " (A Capella) *
5. "                         " (Tibetian Dub) *
6. The World Spins *
7. Into the Night
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8. Falling
9. Laura Palmers Theme

Definately not worth the $40 I spent for it, but a nice compilation in 
its own right.

The Japan TP Picture laser disc is a great find. It has the TP Soundtrack 
with scenery from TP. Worth it's weight in gold. Hard to find, but worth 
the look.

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H
Just a quick query? Does anyone have an address of a dealer selling TP
laserdiscs or videos from Japan? Thanks...

Ian Abbott (on NYX login)
Surrey, England


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Hey, Peakers. I have a thought: anyone want to write some Twin
Peaks-based stories? I'd like to, but I have no concepts yet. Anyone else?
I think it'd be fun. They wouldn't have to be specific to the show or movie,
as long as they take place in the TP universe. In other words, they don't have
to involve Lynch's characters, as long as they are set in the world of TP.
Or, if you have definite theories on what's going on in TP and FWWM, you
could write your own sequel. Or, hey   -write tales of woe from years before 
Laura kicked it, or years after.
Anyone interested, please post or E-mail.


-Jeff (not Ken, but
       his roommate)
\

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I have a few questions concerning Mrs. Tremond and her grandson.
Okay...they have been seen at the convenience store. They have been
seen by Laura (in FWWM), by Donna (In the series), and the grandson
was seen by Leland (In FWWM). So...are they entities like BOB and 
MIKE, or are they "real" people who just have access to the lodges? The
"people" that Leland and Donna see...are they real? Or are they
"seeing things" like when people "see" BOB? IF they are entites..are
they just showing their 'real' selves? Or is there some old woman and
her grandson whose bodies are being used for a purpose? And if
so...where are the real occupants of the bodies? 
Why I am asking is because when we see BOB, he is either in a vision
or seen 'in' Leland...not a "real" body like the Tremonds seem to
have. Do you all know what I mean? Just wondering ...any ideas anyone?

Susan


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In article <SBILES.92Oct11171425@dante.nmsu.edu>, sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles) writes...

> >I have a few questions concerning Mrs. Tremond and her grandson.
> >Okay...they have been seen at the convenience store. They have been
> >seen by Laura (in FWWM), by Donna (In the series), and the grandson
> >was seen by Leland (In FWWM). So...are they entities like BOB and 
> >MIKE, or are they "real" people who just have access to the lodges?

     My idea is that Mrs Tremond (the old woman) is the host.
     Her "grandson" is the same as BOB, MIKE and The Giant - an
     inhabbiting spirit.  This is reconciled with Donna bringing
     Cooper back to Harold's development only to discover a fat
     middle-aged woman called Mrs Tremond instead of the one who
     requested no creamed corn by the mention in FWWM that 
     four Chalfonts in a row rented the same spot in the trailer
     park.

 The
> >"people" that Leland and Donna see...are they real? Or are they
> >"seeing things" like when people "see" BOB? IF they are entites..are
> >they just showing their 'real' selves? Or is there some old woman and
> >her grandson whose bodies are being used for a purpose? And if
> >so...where are the real occupants of the bodies? 
> >Why I am asking is because when we see BOB, he is either in a vision
> >or seen 'in' Leland...not a "real" body like the Tremonds seem to
> >have. Do you all know what I mean? Just wondering ...any ideas anyone?

     Leland/BOB, Gerard/MIKE (LMFAP), Senor Droolcup/The Giant and
     Mrs Tremond/Her "Grandson" are designed in stages, each giving
     us more knowledge than the last about how possession is
     accomplished, why its accomplished, and how the pair live
     together.

     Leland/BOB was the first pair, and tension in the mystery 
     revolved mainly around masking the process - so it was
     masked.  
     Senor Droolcup/The Giant were meant to give us more 
     information - showing that they were "one in the same"
     by always having the one's appearances foreshadowed
     by the other (Senor).
     In FWWM, Mrs Tremond/Her "Grandson" are there to show
     Laura that there is "a man behind the mask."  

     An interesting aside about Mrs Tremond: Laura thinks her
     secret diary will be safe with Harold Smith because BOB
     doesn't know anything about him...  but look at who his
     next door neighbors were.  (More fuel for the theory that
     these beings have a basically benign goal and that BOB is
     the equivalent of a drug addict doing anything to get his
     next hit).



                 Shortly  thereafter, the health of  Annie
                 Blackburn still in question, the behavior
                 of Special Agent  Dale Cooper was noticed
                 __________________________to have changed.
                                              Scott Gorcey.            

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HI,
Just wondering if anyone has Lynch's address handy.  I would
like to mail him a letter of thanks.  His business address would be
fine.
Thanks,
-- -Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)

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In article <1b4hk8INN74o@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> achapman@unixg.ubc.ca (Aaron Chapman) writes:

   Its interesting that you mention Peter Wolf from the J. Geils Band and that
   you make this connection. There could be more to it than you indeed suggest.

   I saw Peter Wolf on the David Letterman show a couple of years ago and he 
   mentioned that he used to be David Lynch's roomate in when they were going
   to school together.

Mamma mia!  So maybe Lynch did nick the black and white shoe routine
(and maybe more) from his old roomie.

Cool fact, by the way.  Thanks for the information.
--
-30-
Bob Ingria

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Well, I'm getting closer to getting a Peaks fanzine put together. I could 
use some help, though, so if anyone wants to submit anything or make any 
suggestions, feel free to E-Mail me.

Thanks,
Justice


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In article <1yFgsB2w165w@cyberden.uucp> justice@cyberden.uucp writes:
<
<The Japan TP Picture laser disc is a great find. It has the TP Soundtrack 
<with scenery from TP. Worth it's weight in gold. Hard to find, but worth 
<the look.

So, is the soundtrack content of the LD any different than that
of the CD ?  I'm trying to find the second season music.


Jan Bielawski
Computervision, San Diego
jpb@calmasd.prime.com


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In article <1992Oct4.120605.20818@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il>
eitan@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Shternbaum Eitan) writes:
> >
> >I remember several episodes in WiseGuy that occured in a small town in the
> >north of the U.S. in those episodes agent taranova arrives to a wierd
> >town to investigate murder cases.
> >
> >do you think david lynch got his inspiration from those episodes ?
> >
> >
> >Eitan Shterenbaum
> >
An article i read indicated that the producer of Wise Guy was poking fun at
Lynch and Frost.  He had gotten an advance copy of the TP premier script and
decided to spoof it.  (So i read...)

--jaye


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In article <BvzGBz.Ko0@acsu.buffalo.edu> Scott J Gorcey,
v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
> >     My idea is that Mrs Tremond (the old woman) is the host.
> >     Her "grandson" is the same as BOB, MIKE and The Giant - an
> >     inhabbiting spirit.

I'm not prepared to say the the grandson is an inhabiting spirit, but he
does appear to be a magician.  The MFAP and he both rub their hands and
do magic tricks.  So does the Giant/SDC.  So it would appear that there
are indeed three different instances of the same general type.

However, note that there are some differences here. The old woman and her
grandson always appear together while the Giant and SDC never do.   The
relationship between the MFAP and Mike is somewhat confusing.  Some of
what is presented identifies MFAP with Mike's arm  while the OAM is
identified with the rest of Mike.  I suspect that part of what is going
on is that OAM and MFAP stem from the beginnings of TP while the others
evolved later and may reflect some revisionist thinking.

-Rich Haller

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Wondering about - green formica
                - chalfont/tremond
                -"I am the Great Went"
                -"I am the Muffin"
                -creamed corn
                -gum coming back in style
                -Mike/arm/midget...
                -What did Mike say in FWWM to Leland from his truck?
                -Annie's "speech" about the 'good Dale' in the lodge
                -cut scenes from the movie...

sorry if these are repeat questions - have not been "tuned-in" for
very long.

has anyone seen Twin-Beaks on Seseme-Street? It is sheerly amazing -
I have it on tape if anyone wants a copy...
bye for now.
 

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In article <ogXJsB1w165w@cyberden.uucp> justice@cyberden.uucp writes:
> >Well, I'm getting closer to getting a Peaks fanzine put together. I could 
> >use some help, though, so if anyone wants to submit anything or make any 
> >suggestions, feel free to E-Mail me.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Justice
> >
Just thought I'd let you know, there is a Twin Peaks magazine
due out at comic book stores and other specialty shops this week or next.
It's called Wrapped In Plastic and it looks pretty neat. (I know the 
people who are putting it together.)  I have the address for direct orders
if anyone is interested.

--Laura


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In article <1992Oct13.001136.7919@nntp.uoregon.edu>, rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller) writes...
> >In article <BvzGBz.Ko0@acsu.buffalo.edu> Scott J Gorcey,
> >v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>> >>     My idea is that Mrs Tremond (the old woman) is the host.
>> >>     Her "grandson" is the same as BOB, MIKE and The Giant - an
>> >>     inhabbiting spirit.

> >I'm not prepared to say the the grandson is an inhabiting spirit, but he
> >does appear to be a magician.  The MFAP and he both rub their hands and
> >do magic tricks.  So does the Giant/SDC.  So it would appear that there
> >are indeed three different instances of the same general type.

     Yes, they're the same general type, but there are three
     different purposes: Leland/BOB introduces us to the type,
     without revealing much (BOB is scary).  Senor Droolcup and
     The Giant tell us more about the possession - it shows
     the man as separate from the "inhabbiting spirit."

     Gerard/MIKE reveal a lot more: Coop - and we - have been shown
     the scariness of Leland/BOB, been given a little more knowledge
     with the foreshadowing of The Giant by Senor Droolcup...  This
     is the first time in Twin Peaks (when Coop interrogates Mike,
     episode before Maddie is killed) that Coop, or anyone, actively
     seeks answers from one of the spirits - in other words, they've
     hauled in someone who actually KNEW the killer for the first time,
     except that the killer is an alien (of sorts).

> >However, note that there are some differences here. The old woman and her
> >grandson always appear together while the Giant and SDC never do. 

     Correct - and this is in keeping with my idea on Mrs Tremond and
     Her "Grandson" as I explained just above  ^

  The
> >relationship between the MFAP and Mike is somewhat confusing.

     Agreed.

  Some of
> >what is presented identifies MFAP with Mike's arm  while the OAM is
> >identified with the rest of Mike.

     I see it as simpler than this tho.  When MIKE and BOB were
     partners, actively seeking out and terrorizing humans to
     drain them of FIRE, they were the equivalent of drunks - 
     addicted to the FIRE in people.  They were supposed to be
     gathering the ambient garmonbozia - fear and suffering -
     that humans gave off.  But they found they could take more
     than that - and it was ecstasy.  They took more than the
     fear and suffering of humans, they took joy and happiness
     and everything -- FIRE.  

     Then MIKE saw the error of his ways, got on the wagon and
     took his arm off.  Perhaps this is the arm MIKE's kind
     use to gather the garmonbozia - remember BOB exiting
     glastonbury grove that firsst time, arm first?  Like that.
     That arm remained personified as the LMFAP in the Lodge
     world.  So perhaps the arm is still a little malevolant,
     but the rest of MIKE is a reformed alcoholic.

     Hm...  This is confusing!  :-)

  I suspect that part of what is going
> >on is that OAM and MFAP stem from the beginnings of TP while the others
> >evolved later and may reflect some revisionist thinking.

     By Lynch, you mean?  I don't see it that way at all: I think
     we're being shown examples of different "characters" of BOB's
     kind, and all of them are characters designed to give us more
     knowledge - incrementally - of the mythology actively involved
     with humans in Twin Peaks.

> >-Rich Haller

                 Shortly  thereafter, the health of  Annie
                 Blackburn still in question, the behavior
                 of Special Agent  Dale Cooper was noticed
                 __________________________to have changed.
                                              Scott Gorcey.            

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In article <Oct.11.15.44.22.1992.28974@andromeda.rutgers.edu>,
kwest@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Kenneth C West) writes:
> >
> >       Hey, Peakers. I have a thought: anyone want to write some Twin
> >Peaks-based stories? I'd like to, but I have no concepts yet. Anyone else?
> >I think it'd be fun. They wouldn't have to be specific to the show or movie,
> >as long as they take place in the TP universe. In other words, they don't have
> >to involve Lynch's characters, as long as they are set in the world of TP.
> >Or, if you have definite theories on what's going on in TP and FWWM, you
> >could write your own sequel. Or, hey   -write tales of woe from years before 
> >Laura kicked it, or years after.
> >       Anyone interested, please post or E-mail.
> >
> >
> >                                                       -Jeff (not Ken, but
> >                                                              his roommate)
> >\
I have also been thinking along these lines for the past couple of months.  I'm
not normally a writer, but I sure would love to see some new material come out.
 If the fans could do it with Star Trek, we can do it with Peaks.  So lets get
scribbling!

A.J. LoCicero >> cicero@hotcity.com

The opinions expressed above ARE those of my employer!
This message comes to you from beautiful Morgan Hill, California, U.S.A.:
The front line in the war against suburbanization!

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In article <ldbhs8INNgla@news.bbn.com> ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria) writes:

   I think is was James Blish who had one of his characters say: ``The
   laws of magic are not so much illogical as analogical.''  Think also
   of the magical principle of the law of correspondences; e.g. to invoke
   a particular spiritual force, you dress in the color particular to
   that being, eat the food favored by him/her, etc.  I think you're
   right on the money here.

Yes, I believe you're right.  It's a very intuitive way to look at
things and recognizes that certain underlying principles always apply.

[my theory about the dwarves and giants being modern day myth
creatures deleted]

   There are various analysts who say similar things about UFOs, etc.
   i.e. that they appear in the guise appropriate to the age in which
   they are found: imps in the medieval period, balloonists in the 19th
   century, extra-terrestrials in the 20th, etc.  Whether one buys that
   for ``the real world'', you're probably right about what's goin on in
   TP.

I recommend "Communion" by Whitley Strieber, regardless of whether you
believe his story (and I don't necessarily but that's another story).
He has a very nice account of this currently fashionable theory among
UFOlogists.  He also goes on at some length about the belief that the
"visitors" implant  memories of animals, particularly owls, as "cover"
memories within the minds of contactees to hide their activities.
It's easy to get skeptical about this sort of thing, but if you treat
it as a novel, it's really quite an entertaining and thought-provoking
read, and a real antidote to years of incredibly poor UFO books.
Whitley Strieber is far-removed from Erich VonDaniken and his ilk.
Incidentally, I'd also recommend the books "Mythago Wood", "Lavondyss"
and "The Bone Forest" by Robert Holdstock which also has some
intriguing parallels to Twin Peaks.  The story is about an ancient,
primal woodland and the mythological beings that emerge from it.  I
won't spoil some of the really cool stuff, but let it suffice to say
that TP fans will find much material to think about.

I'm also reminded of CS Lewis' idea that other worlds are populated by
the creatures of our mythology (Arthur C. Clarke used this idea as
well in "Childhood's End") which implies to me that conversely,
perhaps our world and its denizens form the basis of another world's
myths.  

   Wonderful post, by the way!  I truly enjoyed it.

Thank you.  It really pleases me that at some level, Lynch et al
decided to pursue some of these ideas.  I'm told that Mark Frost was
the one initially interested in pursuing some of the supernatural
angles but I think it's Lynch's approach of reducing these strange
beings and forces to very banal, almost mundane levels is what makes
it so fascinating.  

I'm also pretty much convinced that many of Lynch's films are further
examinations of these same ideas.  Wild at Heart in particular, is
full of images of fire, sinister Voodoo and other bits of business
that indicate that Lynch seems to be building an overall "world" that
his characters occupy.  Also remember Blue Velvet with "Frank" and his
mob and the weird dancing and singing that accompanied his activities.
Once again, a theme that runs through this stuff is that these evil
beings are frequently ordinary people who've somehow gotten caught up
in a bizarre form of destructive magic.  Obviously, the significance
of dreams is another theme.   There are less significant
(or at least on the surface) parallels as well, such as Lynch's
obsession with women crying hard and screwing up their faces in
sadness and horror and the less than pleasant theme that women who get
involved in kinky sex tend to suffer for it.  A less likely paralle,
though I'm not willing to toally dismiss it, is Frank's reliance on a
drug that while administered somewhat like Nitrous Oxide, is obviously
something else.  Could it be a gaseous form of haliperidol?  The role
of haliperidol in the TP world has never been adequately explained,
Gerard seems to use it to keep MIKE at bay, Windom Earle used it and
used it on Major Briggs (who promptly started to speak in riddles and
another language) and BOB gave it to Ronette Pulaski.  

I think that Laura and er, Dorothy (isn't that the name of Isabella
Rosselini's character?)  arevery similar.  We don't know how Dorothy
got involved, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was very much like
Laura and BOB, with Frank taking the BOB role.  Frank and BOB need
much more than to just do evil, they seem to draw strength from fear
and suffering, particularly that of women (though BOB obviously abused
Leland sexually and Frank humiliates Jeffrey with the lipstick as
well).  Frank also turns to Jeffrey at one point and says "You're
exactly like me", which is another strong parallel to TP in that it's
plainly obvious to all and sundry that Cooper obviously has the stuff
to be an evil entity - BOB doesn't simply possess people, he
insinuates himself into people's lives.  I think he plays up to the
aspects of his character that he recognizes in other people, hence BOB
saying, "Just like in Pittsburgh".  The parallel to Windom Earle here
goes without saying.

At this point, I hope that David Lynch makes at least one more TP
movie, but my stronger hope is that his subsequent movies (from what I
understand, Ronnie Rocket is next) continue to pursue thse ideas.
I've alwasy been mystified by the seeming lack of interest among TP
fans in Lynch's other movies.  I know hardcore TP fanatics who haven't
seen any other Lynch movies, and I really find that hard to believe,
given how many parallels there are.  

- Dan
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Check out the October issues of Vogue. There's an ad for some New York
clothing outfit. It's Kyle ... with a lobster on his head. Truly
memorable.


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In article <1bc9ouINNb88@uwm.edu>, xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet)
writes:
> >
> >HI,
> >       Just wondering if anyone has Lynch's address handy.  I would
> >like to mail him a letter of thanks.  His business address would be
> >fine.
> >Thanks,
> >-- 
> >
> >               -Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)
David K. Lynch's business address (according to the 1990 DGA Directory) is:

c/o Creative Artists Agency
9830 Wilshire Bvld.
Beverly Hills, CA  90212

Hope this helps.

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HI,
After hearing all of this about Japan getting to see FWWM
first, and then it being released on tape there in the next couple of
months of have to wonder why they get it before us?  I am not in any
way being racist or anything, just wondering why a film produced in
the US, at least I think it was, would be released some where else
first?  Any ideas?  Also, wouldn't it take longer as they have to
subtitle it too?  I don't understand it at all...
-- -Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)

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In article <Oct.11.15.44.22.1992.28974@andromeda.rutgers.edu> (alt.tv.twin-peaks), kwest@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Kenneth C West) writes:
> >
> >Hey, Peakers. I have a thought: anyone want to write some Twin
> >Peaks-based stories?

Cool idea.  Maybe...

Niel

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The television program "Wiseguy" took place right here in Vancouver, British
Columbia. Not to mention the fact that it was filmed here as well.
Vancouver has about 2.3 million people in it if memory serves, and that doesn't
seem like too small a population to me.

I think David Lynch's penchant for small-towns is because he grew up in fairly
rural areas where the populations were pretty small. Since his father worked for
the government, they moved a lot, and I don't think Lynch really ever  settled  
down long enough to make a lot of close friends. This probably caused him to be
alone a lot of the time and to be with his own thoughts.
When  he went to art school in Philadelphia, it must have been a big change to
go  to a big  city like that for him.  I'm being completely presumptuous of
course, but all my information would suggest that the  fact that Twin Peaks
place in small town has more to do with his own background than the Wiseguy
television show.


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In article <1bf5vbINNp74@uwm.edu>, xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet) writes...
> > 
> >After hearing all of this about Japan getting to see FWWM
> >first, and then it being released on tape there in the next couple of
> >months of have to wonder why they get it before us?  I am not in any
> >way being racist or anything, just wondering why a film produced in
> >the US, at least I think it was, would be released some where else
> >first?  Any ideas?  Also, wouldn't it take longer as they have to
> >subtitle it too?  I don't understand it at all...

     It's simple: the Japanese have better TASTE than we do.
     They like Twin Peaks - as a country - a whole lot more
     than we do.  FWWM made a killing over there, breaking
     even just in Japan alone.

     That's why they get it first.

     (FWWM wasn't an American production, by the way, it
      was produced by Francois Boygeous - spelling corrections
      welcome - who runs the French production company with
      which Lynch has a five-picture deal).

                 Shortly  thereafter, the health of  Annie
                 Blackburn still in question, the behavior
                 of Special Agent  Dale Cooper was noticed
                 __________________________to have changed.
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xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet) writes:

> > 
> > HI,
> > After hearing all of this about Japan getting to see FWWM
> > first, and then it being released on tape there in the next couple of
> > months of have to wonder why they get it before us?  I am not in any
> > way being racist or anything, just wondering why a film produced in
> > the US, at least I think it was, would be released some where else
> > first?  Any ideas?  Also, wouldn't it take longer as they have to
> > subtitle it too?  I don't understand it at all...

Because TWIN PEAKS is *much* more popular there, bordering on obsession. 
If Dave Lynch decides he wanted to start up the series again, he'd 
probably have no shortage of Japanese supporters.


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They are broadcasting TP (the series) again in Japan. 
This time is not WOW(bob)WOW but the non-pay channel TBS Terebi. 
It started last month.
They do it every saturday nigth. 
Next saturday (oct 16th) it will be episode 4th (or third). 
I am not watching it, so I don't know if it is in bilingual mode.

(i have no news about series LD nor FWWM video release yet)

manuel
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pece@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp

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Well, its official. I will be coming out with a TP fanzine before the end 
of the year. It will be an occasional thing, but none the less, a fun 
type of fanzine, which still doesn't have a name. I hope that anyone who 
wishes to be a part of this write to:

                          Brian Kursar
                          2638 West 231st Street
                          Torrance, CA 90505

Poems, Drawings, reviews, or just plain nonscence will be greatly 
appreciated. It wilde numerous findings, quirks, and lots of stuff that 
peaks fans will be sure to find interesting. Well, I leave you with a 
final note - I need help, so please write or E-Mail me. 

Sincerely,

Brian (Justice) Kursar

P.S. A special thanks to all who elaborated on my Chet/Teresa theory. I 
now know that I'm not alone.

__________________________________________________________________________
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Is there a comprehensive TP/TP-related chronology available anywhere?
A couple of weeks ago a poster mentioned that Laura told Dale (in the
Black Lodge) See you in 25 years' - and as I think the events of TP
took place around 1987, that would mean that they were to meet again
in 2012 - which is a year that is thrown around a lot in New Age circles
as being end of the current cycle/aeon/what-have-you. Is this another
esoteric reference by Lynch or just a coincidence?

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ok...

a friend and I were wondering about a certain quote.  In light of Fire Walk
With Me, no pun intended, and Gorden's crazy codes, a line came up in the
episode when Gorden comes to Twin Peaks for the first time (sorry, no number). 
Gorden says to coop "Coop, you remind me today of a small Mexican Chi-wow-wow"
Note he said CHI_WOW_WOW.  Cooper then looks distressed....


What does it mean?

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True, there are 12 signs in the zodiac, but none of the animals in the
zodiac are making appearances in the twin-peaks shows.  The animals
in the Chinese Calendar are.  I do not remember seeing the Lion for 
instance.  There is no 'monkey sign' in the zodiac.  There is a
Year of the Monkey in the Chinese Calendar.


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In article <1992Oct14.090948.18119@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mitchell.Porter@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mitchell Porter) writes:
> >A couple of weeks ago a poster mentioned that Laura told Dale (in the
> >Black Lodge) See you in 25 years' - and as I think the events of TP
> >took place around 1987, that would mean that they were to meet again
> >in 2012 - which is a year that is thrown around a lot in New Age circles
> >as being end of the current cycle/aeon/what-have-you. Is this another
> >esoteric reference by Lynch or just a coincidence?

Neither.  In the second-season premiere, Andy dates the previous year's
events (i.e. Leo being locked up in Hungry Horse, Montana) as being in
1988.  So Twin Peaks takes place in 1989, though the Autobiography of
Dale Cooper slides things forward into 1990.

So the next cycle of events will happen in 2014, not 2012.

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This is courtesy of jm0i@Lehigh.EDU (Joseph McVeigh), who does not
have access to the alt.tv.twin-peaks newsgroup.

There are *SPOILERS* to the TV series and movie below!


------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The following is the entire text of a story from a publication called
"Pittsburgh City Paper", in their Sept 9-15, 1992 edition.  It was
forwarded to me (through some local friends) by a friend of mine, a big
fan living in Pittsburgh.

FYI, my "source" for the Pittsburgh City Paper" clipping has decided to
cultivate her bit of Twin Peaks fame. It's only right, in that she is a public
personality anyway. Additionally, she has no Usenet node and the only way to
thank her is to listen to her.

She's Marcia Gan, a DJ in Pittsburgh. She's been following the ongoing news
from the Usenet via downloaded and printed messages from Yours Truly.

I think the least Peaks Freaks can do is listen to her show when and if
they're in Pittsburgh. She's on "97 Rock", from 7 PM - 12M.

There are many "technical" errors, mostly spelling misconceptions.
Punctuation errors are corrected without notation, as are glaring word
omissions; other lapses are indicated by the standard [sic], which I'll
eschew for recurrences of the same mistake.  There will of course be
errors of transcription, for which I will assume blame; please direct
your comments to me:  jm0i@lehigh.edu.

I assume no responsibility for, and make no comment on, the accuracy of
either the description or the analysis.  This text is reprinted without
anyone's permission.

                - Joseph Aloysius McVeigh

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v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:

> >    Jim, the Gentleman Caller in the play, used to call LAURA
> >    "Blue Roses" in high school because she told him she'd had
> >    pleurosis and he thought she'd said Blue Roses.  

THANK YOU for pointing this out. I noticed the "blue roses" bit too; it 
took me a couple of weeks to remember that it was from the Glass 
Menagerie. I had, of course, forgotten that the character's name was 
Laura. I think it's a grand discovery.

                         -Uzer

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 Anyone around here received a letter from "StarPics Inc." recently?
If so what do ya think about what they are up to?  (In case anyone is
unaware "StarPics" are the people who publish the 76 card "Twin Peaks"
CarArt set, you know like baseball cards).  It seems that "StarPics"
is now offering for a price autographed Twin Peaks cast member cards
and they 'aint cheap...
 
           Sheryl Lee       (as Laura Palmer)     $60.00
           Sheryl Lee       (as M. Ferguson)      $45.00
           Kyle MacLachian  (as Agent Cooper)     $60.00
           Michael Ontkean  (as Sheriff Truman)   $45.00
           etc...
           etc...
 
 When I originally purchased the card set from StarPics they said
there were randomly placed autographed cast members cards in some of
the sets and some "lucky people" would find them, anyone know any of
these "lucky people" who found one of these autographed cards in there
set?  I sure don't!  And now they show up for sale from StarPics at
these prices?
 
  Excuse me but I think I smell one of Pete's trouts in the coffee pot
if ya know what I mean :-)
 

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In article <cicero.1mwj@hotcity.COM>, cicero@hotcity.COM (Andreas Locicero) writes:
> > In article <1bc9ouINNb88@uwm.edu>, xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet)
> > writes:
>> >>
>> >>HI,
>> >>       Just wondering if anyone has Lynch's address handy.  I would
>> >>like to mail him a letter of thanks.  His business address would be
>> >>fine.
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>-- 
>> >>
>> >>               -Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)
> > David K. Lynch's business address (according to the 1990 DGA Directory) is:
> > 
> > c/o Creative Artists Agency
> > 9830 Wilshire Bvld.
> > Beverly Hills, CA  90212
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^      ^^^^^

Who here would have trwonup had this been 90210?

Mike "whew"

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In article <1992Oct15.110607.8166@ac.dal.ca>, 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
> > In article <cicero.1mwj@hotcity.COM>, cicero@hotcity.COM (Andreas Locicero) writes:
>> >> In article <1bc9ouINNb88@uwm.edu>, xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet)
>> >> writes:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>HI,
>>> >>>       Just wondering if anyone has Lynch's address handy.  I would
>>> >>>like to mail him a letter of thanks.  His business address would be
>>> >>>fine.
>>> >>>Thanks,
>>> >>>-- 
>>> >>>
>>> >>>               -Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)
>> >> David K. Lynch's business address (according to the 1990 DGA Directory) is:
>> >> 
>> >> c/o Creative Artists Agency
>> >> 9830 Wilshire Bvld.
>> >> Beverly Hills, CA  90212
> >   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^      ^^^^^
> > 
> > Who here would have trwonup had this been 90210?


Sorry... I have hayfever and my typing is suffering as a result.
That should have been "Thrown up"

Mike

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Oddly enough, I have seen these remixes of rockin back inside my
heart, they were on a CD5 or whatever the record companies call those
cd's with only a few songs on them. At the time I didn't have the 6.95
to make the purchase, it was the only one there, and I haven't seen it
since. (I saw it last year, sometime when it was still cold)
Just thought you might like to know (it was a BMG musioc store)

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> >v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:

>> >>    Jim, the Gentleman Caller in the play, used to call LAURA

  And don't forget, Nadine's drapes were from Gentleman Jim's.

 






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Just a note to anyone interested, Wrapped in Plastic, a 24-page "magazine"
devoted to Twin Peaks is out at comic stores now.  As I've said before, it
looks pretty good (but I'm biased, I know the people who wrote it!) Anyway,
if you want more info, or an address from which to direct order it, I'll 
be happy to provide!! (I'll post the address if enough people respond.)

--Laura



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   Well, $45 for an autographed card is ridiculous.  The
original gimick was real, though.  There was an autographed
Jack Nance card in my set.  This was an extra card, the
unsigned Jack Nance was also in the set.  Never did call that
number to "register" it, though.

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I just found this group today. After renting the tapes and watching the 
pilot again I am intrigued by the words to Fire Walk With Me. Can anyone
E-Mail them to me? Are they in a FAQ? E-Mail to AXIBILF@UICVMC.BITNET.
Thanks,
Bill Ferguson
^z

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Has anyone talked about a release date in the UK for TP:FWWM? Well, I've
just seen a 'coming soon' trailer at our local cinema (the Pictureville)
here in Bradford.

It was quite an amazing trailer actually; it almost made me want to do
nothing else apart from wait for the film.
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Is there any FTP site which has the *entire* TP theme sampled?  (I have a couple
hundred megs spare on our IRIX Indigo :)  Thanks...

-Eyvind

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Maybe S.A. Jeffries appearance is similar to how the Giant appeared to Cooper to warn hime and give him clues.
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