Season 2, Episode 18: On the Wings of Love — April 04–10, 1991

boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >In article <95933@sgi.sgi.com>, sjohnson@texas.vlsi.sgi.com (Scott Johnson) writes...
> >} I am not so sure Eckhardt IS dead; no one mentioned him after that episode,
> >} like they did for Josie.

> >Not so. Jones quite explicitly told Catherine that Josie and Eckhardt were
> >going to be buried together back in Hong Kong.

Much as I doubt what I'm about to suggest, Ms. Jones's testimony is hardly
impartial.  She could have helped Eckhardt fake his death, just as Katherine
helped Andrew fake his.  Certainly he was shot by Josie and could well have
died, so it would have had to have been an impromptu plan using their many HK
connections to pull it off.  How they managed to get Eckhardt out of our
local police officers' collective grasp would be a sticky part of the puzzle.

Nah...  Eckhardt's toast.  ////  Now for some ASCII "droarings"...
  __
 _\/_Carl   /\.  ./\/\/\/\Another deck of cards reference:
 \/\/Johnson  /___\/___\  \/Where did Coop get the 3 of Diamonds?

IT WAS MS. JONE's GUN
Do you remember the gun which Harry tried to reach for while Ms. Jones was 
strangling Harry on the bed. As we probably already know, he fails to get it 
but manages to escape from her stranglehold by some other way. When I 
rewatched the previous episode (3/28) and this episode (4/4) in sequence, I 
noticed that it was Ms. Jones who placed that gun on the sidetable just before
she slipped into bed. In fact, she appeared to be most particular with the way
the gun was "arranged" on the sidetable (as if to make sure that it can be 
conveniently grabbed from the bed) or was I just imagining it?

VCR JOCKS ALERT
I also observed some possibly sloppy editing during this scene. When she
bends over Harry for the first time and bends back up, the spaghetti strap of
her lingerie falls off her right shoulder. On a succeeding cut, the strap is 
back up. Here's another one. If you watch the strangling closely, in one clip,
you will notice Ms. Jones thumb caught around the "string thing" as she 
strangles him but in a succeeding clip it is not.

THE LIQUID WORKS BOTH WAYS
One final note. Most have posted that Harry saw Ms. Jones as Josie after
she applied that liquid to his lips. Shouldn't it work both ways? When she
applied the liquid to her own lips, could she have seen Harry as someone else
and was so horrified that she unexpectedly decides to strangle him.

Louie

In article <1991Apr2.201133.27829@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
> >As the paterfamilias of a Nielson [sic?] family ...

It boggles my mind that someone could actually BE an A. C. Nielsen
household, with the log and everything, and STILL not know how to spell
the name.  On the other hand, maybe it doesn't...

From the AUCKLAND STAR April 9th 1991

WHO STOLE LAURA PALMER?
Body-snatchers have been making night raids in Auckland.

Blame it on TV 3's bizarre billboard campaign for the equally bizarre
serial Twin Peaks.

First one plastic wrapped mannequin was stolen from it's hoarding around
town. The someone spraypainted another billboard with an answer to
"who killed laura palmer"

Since then, 5 more mannequins stuck on billboards around the city have
been stolen...

For those still wondering what it's all about, the new serial - an offbeat
tale of murder, deception and double meanings in small town America
continues on TV 3 tonight.

So, TP is here in NZ..... ho hum. :)

ciao

I know posts get kind of scrambled, so forgive the lack of chronology, but
someone else's comment about a New Hampshire Stonehenge reminded me with
a jolt (!) that there is a Stonehenge-like arrangement of monoliths in the
state of Washington--it's visible from the Oregon side of the Columbia
River Gorge, on a kind of cliff.  There is a mansion nearby, also visible (I
think both are open to the public, I just never drove on the non-interstate
road on the other side of the river--I know, I know).  Both were built
(legend says) by a rich man for his overseas bride, who died before she
could be presented with the gift.  It's very haunting.

Just a thought.

It's toward the eastern (southeastern) part of the state.

Ilana R.

Here in Norway we saw episode 2014 last Friday. (We'we been catching up 
during your hiatus - heh, heh...)

I was pleased to notice that during the scene where Catherine reveals 
Andrew not being dead, to Pete, the music in the background was by the most 
famous Norwegian composer ever, Edvard Grieg (Piano Concerto in A minor). 
(He lived and composed during the latest half of the 19th century, and 
died early in this century.) (That's the second reference to Norway and 
Norwegians on the show - hope it pisses the Swedish fans off...  :-)

So now I'm wondering - has anyone got a list (or just an idea) of what 
music has been used on the show that was not written/composed by 
Lynch/Badalamenti? If not, would someone like to try and compile one?? (It 
seems that just about every other aspect of TP is covered in some list or 
another...)

P.S.
When we were away during the easter holidays, my girlfriend and I stayed 
in a cabin where every night we could here the owls hooting in the woods 
nearby - we were expecting Bob to drop by anytime, so we always kept a 
bucket of water by the bed, to throw at him and scare him off... Anyone 
know whether this would have worked, or were we just lulling ourselves 
into a false feeling of safety?

- Roar Larsen
  Trondheim, Norway
  rlifk@termix.termo.unit.no

"Look - it's trying to think!" -Albert, referring to Truman(?)

In article <1991Apr5.070450.9640@iex.uucp> perkins@neptune.iex.com (Bill Perkins) writes:
> >
> >Okay...I just watched tonight's episode...and I dunno... Some stuff I liked,
> >a lot of other stuff I really did NOT like  (well, with a grain of salt: I
> >love TP, I just didn't like the show "succumbing" to regular TV at points
> >(peaks)).  (Oh, yeah, flame me...yeah, go ahead! ;-})
> >
 [good points 1-4 deleted]
> >
> >
> >5) Doc Hayward is hiding something!!!  We all kind of wondered when he was
> >   going to become "more important"/"critical to plot development", huh?  (Oh,
> >   YEAH, we did!)  All his denying/making up excuses on-the-fly w/ Donna pretty
> >   much show that there's more here....  It wouldn't surprise me at all if,
> >   as many others have suggested, Ben is, in fact, Donna's dad. But why (as
> >   far as plot goes???)?  

In a recent post I explained what I think is the most probable and 
interesting reasons and tie-ins to all of this.  A short summary is
that the aliens were in Twin Peaks almost 20 years ago.  People like
Gerard and WE(when working on Project BlueBook) became inhabited by evil 
aliens.  These may have been on  the ship on purpose or as stowaways.
One of the things that happened (it has not been revealed why :-) is 
that Ben did impregnate many local women.   (Call it wild oats, call it
breeding experiments, who knows.)  Now 20 years later the aliens have
returned.  They detected increased activity from the evil aliens.  Said
to themselves "Oh, s**t.  They were left there!"  (or an alien version
of this :-)  They have now come back to help cooper get rid of the evil
aliens.  WE is looking for the White Lodge (the alien base 20 years ago)
to gain the power that is there.  He knew to look for the signs but 
didn't exactly know what the signs would be. 
> >
> >6) Why IS Donna's mom in a wheelchair?  (I know this has been asked earlier,
> >   esp. after last week, but I have not been able to read all the responses,
> >   so sorry if this old...!)

This is a result of the alien experiments.  :-)
> >
> >7) Something new:  GORDON CAN HEAR SHELLEY!  HE DOES NOT HAVE TO YELL ABOUT
> >   EVERYTHING!  (Though it was sort of amusing in the coffee-shop -- everyone
> >   heard him saying how much he liked her ;-})  So why does he hear Shelley,
> >   and no one else?  And, HE SEEMS TO BE VERY MUCH ATTRACTED TO HER!  MAYBE
> >   THAT WILL FIGURE IN TO SOMETHING (SOONER OR LATER!)

I have no response to that statement.  Other than I loved the whole
scene.
> >
> >8) Frankly, I really did not see much "chemistry" at ALL between Coop and
> >   Annie at first (even most of tonight); maybe it's possible, but I still
> >   dunno...  Feels rather "forced" on us to me...?

How did you feel when Bambi met his doe?  

[points 7-11 deleted (some good. some...)
 
> >
> >12) This entire "cave exploration" thing -- my, that was easy, huh?  A little
> >    *too* much so for me...and "campy".  I like TP b/c it is so weird, but
> >    actually "feasible*, 'cause the world IS weird!  But to go for this
> >    "Indiana Jones and ..." BS, with "magically moving stones, et al", uh,
> >    I'm annoyed....  

This wasn't magic it was alien technology.  See above.

> >
> >13) Why did Gordon go on so much about the gun he gave Cooper?
> >
> >14) What's the point of the whole "james sends a postcard" thing?  Who the
> >    hell cares?

I agree.  
> >
> >15) When Wyndam (?) Earle is in the cave (at the end of the show), he 
> >    approaches the "symbol" location from an entirely different direction
> >    from the one Coop, Truman, et al, took. Makes ya think he was hiding
> >    out all the while, while the others were there, but his reaction to 
> >    the "symbol"'s new "movement" was rather "surprised"...  He acted more
> >    like he stumbled across something (and that he, too, sought), and was
> >    eager/delighted to make it work in/for his purposes....
> >
> >    BTW, I thought (again... I gotta quit doing that!) it was just *too*
> >    convenient that W.E. just happened to turn around, his flashlight just
> >    happened to land exactly on the "other" ("upside-down" owl (?)) symbol,
> >    so he just "knew" to turn the ("original") "rod"-thing from the 1st
> >    symbol-thing around.....  WHY would he do this???  (Except for the fact
> >    that it made a pretty decent "Oh, shit, NOW What?" ending to the show...
> >    My point being:  W.E. did not act (to me) like he knew *the answer(s)"
> >    either, he was searching 'em out, too....
> >
> >    Yet, he MUST have known that Coop, et al, would be back, so turning the
> >    "Owl" rod thingy would tip 'em off that someone else knew, too....

See the notes above.
> >
> >16) Who was shooting the arrows at the neon-colored buffaloe cut-outs?  I
> >    really think it was Bobby (but WHY?!).  

Johnny Horne.  See the quote list regarding this scene.

> >
> >
> >I'm outta here...
> >
> >--
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Bill Perkins                         | "The sheriff didn't mean anything." 
> > IEX Corporation, Plano, Texas        | "He hit me!"
> > ...!iex!perkins (or) perkins@iex.com | "Well, I'm sure he meant to do *that*."

Please note most of the above should be taken with a :-) or two.  The
theory about the tie-in should not.  Any comments?

charles d. kincaid
statman@stat.ufl.edu  <-------   The correct address.  Probably not the
one above.  I don't think I'm paranoid.

perkins@neptune.iex.com (Bill Perkins) writes:
> >1) Did Harry *know* who T. Eckhardt's assistant was?  (From before...)  He
> >   kind of acted like he did/did not when he woke up -- maybe just the
> >   shock of it all made him act "bewildered" (he had this look on his face
> >   like "You?!" -- but maybe it was all just surprise..?

I think Harry was just surprised to find it was a woman who attacked him.

> >5) Doc Hayward is hiding something!!!  We all kind of wondered when he was
> >   going to become "more important"/"critical to plot development", huh?  (Oh,
> >   YEAH, we did!)  All his denying/making up excuses on-the-fly w/ Donna pretty
> >   much show that there's more here....  It wouldn't surprise me at all if,
> >   as many others have suggested, Ben is, in fact, Donna's dad. But why (as
> >   far as plot goes???)?

Like the rest of Twin Peaks, Doc Hayward no doubt has a smutty, evil side.

> >16) Who was shooting the arrows at the neon-colored buffaloe cut-outs?  I
> >    really think it was Bobby (but WHY?!).

No, it was Johnny Horne, Ben Horne's autistic son.

--
bvickers@ics.uci.edu | "Only a large-scale popular movement toward
brett@ucippro.bitnet |  decentralization and self-help can arrest the
                     |  present tendency toward statism." - Aldous Huxley

Hi there

> > How does TP stack up against "Home and Away" (assuming it's still shown in
> > OZ)? In the UK "The Waltons" generally has better viewing figures than TP.

Hmmmm... let me see... Home and Away is shown at about 5:30 on a weekday...
No-one I know watches H&A..... Twin Peaks is regarded the same as most
of David Lynch's other work: either you love it or have never heard of it!

Some people think that it is "too weird", and those that missed the first
few episodes are completely lost..... The biggest rating TV show at the
moment in OZ is (I think) "The Bugs Bunny Show", because of the lady that
introduces it: Sophie Lee (an absolute HONEY, but a real fruitcake)...

Neighbours has really declined in popularity... I guess that most people
watch movies (no "Movie Channels" or any form of cable over here), or
sport... Australia vs the West Indies at cricket this week....

Hope this has been some help..

Oops!  I guess that I shoud mention that TP screens at 9:30 on a Tuesday
night, against "Jake and The Fatman", and "In the Heat of the Night".


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In article <280324D4.15698@ics.uci.edu> bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
> >perkins@neptune.iex.com (Bill Perkins) writes:
>> >>1) Did Harry *know* who T. Eckhardt's assistant was?  (From before...)  He
>> >>   kind of acted like he did/did not when he woke up -- maybe just the
>> >>   shock of it all made him act "bewildered" (he had this look on his face
>> >>   like "You?!" -- but maybe it was all just surprise..?
> >
> >I think Harry was just surprised to find it was a woman who attacked him.


Considering the gargantuan amount Harry had been drinking, I think 
he was surprised to be alive. 


--Barbara

Roar in Norway asks about other non-Badalamenti music in TP.....


Well, some other 19th-century piano music crops up in an episode early in 
the second season (at least, what constitutes the second season in the 
US)--in the show where Leland and Sarah are having dinner at the 
Haywards', the previously-unseen third Hayward daughter (Gersten) goes to 
the piano and plays the opening section of Mendelssohn's Rondo 
Capriccioso, quite a lovely thing.  (Then she does some really impressive 
boogie-woogie stuff at the very end, over the credits, but that probably 
doesn't count.)

And there's whatever opera that is on the TV at Wally's when the cop goes 
in there after whatsisname's fatal car crash.

And "Surrey with the Fringe on Top" from Leland.

Also the various big-band numbers that reduce Leland to hysteria, incl. 
PEnnsylvania 6-500.

What about the various amateur-hour performances by a) James and Maddie and 
Donna and b) JJ Wheeler (feh!)?  they were so very forgettable that 
I've.....well, forgotten whether they were doing anything recognizable or 
not.

That's all that occurs to me at the moment.

MVB

"I used to think that the key to happiness was the installation and repair of small electrical appliances...."--Vic 

"A man came up to me and said, 'I'd like to change your mind by hitting it 
with a rock,' he said, 'though I am not unkind.' "--TMBG
Disclaimer:  Not my planet, Monkeyboy!

"Apples don't grow on trees, you know."
                             
                              -Maj. Frank Burns

In article <1991Apr10.164448.25495@athena.mit.edu> mvb@eagle.mit.edu
(Mary V. Burke) writes:
> >Roar in Norway asks about other non-Badalamenti music in TP.....

[citations of various tunes deleted]

> >What about the various amateur-hour performances by a) James and Maddie and 
> >Donna and b) JJ Wheeler (feh!)?  they were so very forgettable that 
> >I've.....well, forgotten whether they were doing anything recognizable or 
> >not.

I don't know for absolutely certain, but I'm pretty sure that at least
the instrumental of the song J&M&D sang was by Badalamenti, partly
because it keeps coming back as background music, and partly because
it just has that feel.

JJ sang a US western folk song, "Bury me not on the lone prairie."

The pieces Mary mentioned were all "in" the show, while the one Roar
mentioned was background music (at least I think so, from his
description).  I think he was asking if there has been any other
non-Badalamenti *background* music.  I would sort of expect that if
there had been, *somebody* on the net would have posted saying, "They
used my favorite piece by my favorite composer."  On the other hand,
not too many Americans are familiar with Norwegian composers (so AB
could be stealing shamelessly and we'd never know).

-- Janet Swisher Internet: swsh@midway.uchicago.eduUniversity of Chicago Phone: (312) 702-7608 Academic and Public Computing P-mail: 1155 E. 60th St. Chicago IL 60637, USA

dpray@plague.Berkeley.EDU (Ice) writes:
> >boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
>> >>In article <95933@sgi.sgi.com>, sjohnson@texas.vlsi.sgi.com (Scott Johnson) writes...

>> >>} I am not so sure Eckhardt IS dead; no one mentioned him after that episode,
>> >>} like they did for Josie.

>> >>Not so. Jones quite explicitly told Catherine that Josie and Eckhardt were
>> >>going to be buried together back in Hong Kong.

> >Much as I doubt what I'm about to suggest, Ms. Jones's testimony is hardly
> >impartial.  

[...]

True, but I'm reasonably certain I also heard somebody (Hawk, perhaps; if not
him, then Dale) mention an autopsy done on him (in addition, of course, to the
one on Josie).  It's pretty hard to fake your own death and still get an 
autopsy done.  :-)

Tim Lynch (Cornell's first Astronomy B.A.; one of many Caltech grad students)
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She is all that I have left, and Music is her name..."
--CSN, "Southern Cross"

In article <1991Apr6.002402.10833@sbcs.sunysb.edu> ruderman@sbgrad1.cs.sunysb.edu (David Ruderman - Racquetball Commissioner) writes:
> >In article <23990@well.sf.ca.us> emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us (Emmanuel Goldstein) writes:
>> >>While rewatching Twin Peaks recently, a friend of mine made an
>> >>interesting observation. While Ben Horne is watching that old
>> >>film where the Great Northern is being built, we see a rather 
>> >>familiar face standing right in front of the Great Northern sign.
>> >>It sure looks to me like Agent Cooper! Anyone else notice this?
> >
> >I didn't.


I didn't either.


Gee, is there anyone else out there who didn't?



-- ========================================================================== David D. Smith ...!{ulowell,samsung,decvax,ism780c,ima}!cg-atla!dsmith "Sssshhhhh, the maestro is decomposing" - Gary Larson

In article <1991Apr9.213632.12768@meadow.uucp> ajd@meadow.uucp (Antony Davies) writes:
   In article <1991Apr9.032616.19466@world.std.com> ekw@world.std.com (Elliott C Winslow) writes:
   >The previous reference thought he had seen this story line before.
   >Indeed, more than once.  The main reference has to be Kurt Vonnegut,
   >and I think it's in _Welcome to the Monkey House_, but I'm not sure.
   >The more recent reference is a Mr. David K. Mellott in the April 1990
   etc.
   I remember seeing an episode of 'Land of the Giants' [...]

There is an Edgar Rice Burroughs Mars book, "The Chessmen of Mars,"
where the chess game (called "jetan" on Mars) is played with living
people.  Rather than just killing the person whose square is taken,
however, the two pieces fight (with swords) until one is killed.  The
other gets the square.

Muffy

In article <1991Apr10.052148.14453@grebyn.com>, fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Oceanstar) writes:
>> >>I really like Luther's ideas about the owl-cave pattern:
>> >>it does indeed resemble a bird in flight with flames spurting
> >>from its ass.  :-)  
stuff deleted
> >
>> >>Hey.  Maybe he got those extra three triangles from the ones on 
>> >>Leo's hand.
> >
>> >>Remember?  In the January 26th episode?
> >
> >

--Fiona 

Actually, it seems to me that the "bird in flight with flames spurting
from its ass" is the stylized Amerind drawing of the Phoenix, which,
as we all know, dies in flames, only to rise again therefrom.->immortality.
And, for those of you who are concerned about the triangles becoming
diamonds, well, it seems to me that Coop was just doodling with the
figures and made something which was recognizable, and Annie knew.
Anyway, I find the whole TP emphasis on birds verrry interesting.
What say you?

Peace,
Rosi

no .sig 'cause ...

ROSIMCG@OAVAX,CSUCHICO.EDU

In article <31798@usc> marks@skat.usc.edu (Louise Marks) writes:

> >I LOVE Gordon... Lynch plays him perfectly

I agree.  Lynch clearly gives us the definitve Gordon Cole.  All other
portrayals of this sensitive, misunderstood FBI man pale as Lynch
explores his psyche and soul.  Forget the Mandy Patinkin Gordon Cole,
the Efram Zimbalist Jr., the Crispin Glover, and *especially* forget
the damn animated series!  David Lynch *is* Gordon Cole.

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "Poetry ends like a rope" --Jack Spicer

When Global Television failed to transmit its Twin Peaks feed today at
10am, I panicked, but... after a few phone calls I was able to determine:

* The cause:  Lynch/Frost were delivering the tapes late.  Expected time
  of arrival at last notice was 7pm, Toronto time.  The show airs there at
  9pm!

* The cure:  Current plans are to air TP on D1/04 (the usual) in its normal
  broadcast time slot (9pm, Toronto time, Wednesday [today]; 6pm PDT).

If you care, I hope this reaches your news server in time!
-- -larryy@apple.com "You wouldn't recognize a *subtle plan* if it painted itself purple, and danced naked upon a harpsichord, singing, 'Subtle Plans are Here Again'." - Edmund Blackadder

In article <280324D4.15698@ics.uci.edu> bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
> >Like the rest of Twin Peaks, Doc Hayward no doubt has a smutty, evil side.

You show me Cooper's (or Gordon's, for that matter) smutty, evil side,
and I'll pull down a cave wall on my head while reciting a Shelley poem
backwards and inhaling a cup of good, hot, black coffee.

> >bvickers@ics.uci.edu | "Only a large-scale popular movement toward
--
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Peaker Action, Friday, April 12~~

Here's what we're gonna do: Friday, all day, Peakers should call Mr. Zack
Manna, Director of Advertising, AT&T, at 212/605-5500. Get as far past the
receptionist as you can and leave the following message for Mr. Manna:  

"I was watching Twin Peaks last night, and it was such a great show that I
wanted to call and thank you personally for being a sponsor.  Have a nice day."

Please leave as close to this exact message as possible.This is all part
of a bigger plan which takes too long to explain.  If you're a fan, have
faith and do it.  Then E-mail me back, so we can measure the response. 
This part is very important.  Also, post this message everywhere you
can. Remember, this is coming down to the last few and most important
weeks of our campaign to save TP. Tell as many of your friends as
possible! Please take just a minute to do this. It will cost about a
dollar, and isn't it worth it? Remember the effectiveness of our plan a
few weeks back with Mr. Iger. Let's pump another 300,000!!!!!   

Thanks, and keep Peaking.

Mike Tomblyn, Pine Weasel Project, COOP Pres. (Pittsburgh, PA)

Don't forget to e-mail me as soon as possible after calling and let me
know how close you got to Mr. Manna. If you make multiple calls, let me
know also.

Mike Tomblyn    mt1z+@andrew.cmu.edu


PS: We should also make note in our call-ins and/or dealings with the media 
that we are using AT&T as a symbol for all TP advertisers.  We know who they 
all are, etc., but in this way we avoid diffusion of our efforts.  - FBC

**************************

Regarding Bernie's fascinating explanation of the owl figure and the
white/black lodges, I say:

"Damn fine analysis, Bernie!"  Cooper would be proud!!


-- Lynn Schneider lzs@indetech.com {sun,sharkey,pacbell}!indetech!lzs Fremont, CA

In article <jms.3969@vanth.UUCP> jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:
> >In article <91094.092639ACPS6410@Ryerson.CA> ACPS6410@Ryerson.CA (Nadir U Ahmed) writes:
>> >>- Cooper, Hawk, Truman, and Andy are in a cave and sees the
>> >>  picture that was also drawn by Cooper. An owl tries to attack
>> >>  the group. Andy swings his pickaxe and hits the top diamond?
>> >>  The middle diamond opens and a rod with a symbol appears:
>> >>  The owl leaves the cave.
>> >>      /\/\/\- Cooper mentions to Diane its Thursday 9:05 p.m.
>> >>      /    \  He sees Annie and that scar. She won't explain
>> >>      \    /  now but in time.
>> >> \/- WE goes to owl cave and saw what was uncovered.
>> >>  he sees on the ceiling the symbol inverted so
>> >>  he turned the rod so the symbol is upside-down. The wall then
>> >>  crumbled.
> >
> >(The symbol, incidentally, didn't look quite like the rendering above.  But
> >I can't come up with anything much better.  The symbol reminds me of an
> >owl.)

The symbol at the top wasn't symmetric. I took it to be a flame,
as in "FIRE - Walk with me." That's what Andy's pick hit when
he was swinging at the owl, not the uppermost diamond.

-- Dave Mack

Just thought you'd be interested in hearing how Twin Peaks is doing down 
here in NZ.  The Pilot on Monday night took over 1/3 of the viewing audience, 
not quite as much as Crocodile Dundee II screening on the opposing channel.  
The next night, when we saw episodes 1 and 2 back-to-back, TP won it's time 
slot quite convincingly :-)

The channel screening it had promoted TP more heavily than any TV show had 
ever been promoted before in this country and it looks like it's worked!  

*Damn* good show!

Diana
edgleyd@ctl.co.nz

robertj@Autodesk.COM (Young Rob Jellinghaus) writes:
> >bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
>> >>Like the rest of Twin Peaks, Doc Hayward no doubt has a smutty, evil side.
> >
> >You show me Cooper's (or Gordon's, for that matter) smutty, evil side,
> >and I'll pull down a cave wall on my head while reciting a Shelley poem
> >backwards and inhaling a cup of good, hot, black coffee.

Well, I really meant Twin Peaks residents.

But I wouldn't be surprised if Coop had a dark side -- we just haven't
seen it yet.

--
bvickers@ics.uci.edu | "Only a large-scale popular movement toward
brett@ucippro.bitnet |  decentralization and self-help can arrest the
                     |  present tendency toward statism." - Aldous Huxley

> >From: perkins@neptune.iex.com (Bill Perkins)
> >Subject: TP - 4/4/91 - My Thoughts/?'s

> >4) What was 'John' (new char, Billy Zane) fooling with when Audrey entered
> >   the room (room service)?  Looked like a big hot-dog steamer :-)  Anyone
> >   know?/Why?/Care?
It looked one of those "weather simulator" things to me (Wheeler's
"fixes" up the environment right?)  -- but a hot-dog steamer sounds
just as good.  The mystery here though is, if he had a hot-dog
steamer in his room, why would he call room service?  Ah-HA!  Wheeler's
up to something!  I bet he killed Laura! -- oh yeah sorry, we already figured
that one out.

> >11) ...
> >   => On a similar point (same scenes), I did think that the cave Annie
> >      recognized ("Owl Cave") was a little too convenient..  I thought she
> >      was supposed to have been gone a long time -- how did she know about it?
   Annie grew up in Twin Peaks, right?  From what Truman and Hawk said about Owl
Cave, it sounds like it must be a place that everyone has been to as
a kid at least--> therefore, it's not unreasonable to assume that Annie
also played there at times as a child and would be unlikely to forget
about it.

> >13) Why did Gordon go on so much about the gun he gave Cooper?
Why does Gordon go on about everything?

> >14) What's the point of the whole "james sends a postcard" thing?  Who the
> >    hell cares?
If James just left and never wrote to Donna again, we'd probably
have to see hours of Donna-mourns-James scenes.  I'd say the postcard
was the lesser of evils.

> >16) Who was shooting the arrows at the neon-colored buffaloe cut-outs?  I
> >    really think it was Bobby (but WHY?!).  
It was Johnny Horne -- i.e. the retarded 27 (?) year old
obsessed with Indians.

Rocky Giovinazzo

Ok, start with the Major's tattoo.  Turn the upper two triangles into
Margaret's mountains.  Start doodling...make the bottom triangle into
a diamond, draw a few more diamonds, and...voila!  Cooper's sketch.

-paul asente
asente@adobe.com...decwrl!adobe!asente

Bibles can ALWAYS be obtained FOR FREE from Hotels, Church
organizations, the Gideon Society, thrift stores, and your parents'
house.  Be advised that in certain instances theft is a moral
obligation.

The most apparent reference for chess games in literature is Lewis Caroll's
"Through the Looking Glass". The young Kurt may have read this story when he
was young.

And yes, even Dutchies watch TP !