Season 2, Episode 13: Checkmate — January 19–February 01, 1991

In article <4967@vela.acs.oakland.edu> rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
)In article <JYM.91Jan31021348@remarque.berkeley.edu> jym@berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
))__  Also, a friend of mine who knows Nepalese said the subtitles
))_   didn't match up.  He doesn't know it very well, so he can't
))    tell me what he thinks the Dalai Lama said.  Any people out
))    there who know Nepalese?

)(The Tibetan was just a bunch of Lamaistic mumbo-jumbo about some
)white (or maybe cream-colored?) building--a barracks or guest house?
)(Outhouse?)

Thinking about this some more, I think it was "ecru".  The "ecru
outhouse"--does that mean anything to anybody?  Jerry?


-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "The sun is one foot wide" --Heraclitus

In article <3262@polari.UUCP> archie@polari.UUCP (Elizabeth Eaton) writes:
> >
> > I just saw the commercial for the 2/2 show, and it looks like Audrey
> >IS going to take over at the Great Noerthers. (So much for neat typing)
> >and there's a shot of Leo with an axe!!!!!  Does this mean we here in Seattle 
> >are going to miss the 1/26 show entirely?

Apparently "missing things entirely" is the rule up there....

Mat

-- W Mat Waites | Walking the wire is living, {gatech,emory}!emcard!mat | the rest is just waiting. - Wallenda

Alright, already.

As much as I have enjoyed the pseudo-commentary and discussion (it's about
time we loosened up about the show), the piteous murmurs of confusion on
this group (like when someone seriously considers the possibility of the
"regional" broadcasts--Puh-Leeze!  Here and I never really thought that the
smiley was all that necessary...), and the rapid approach of the *real*
Episode 2014 bring me to the following announcement, for those stragglers
who haven't caught on:

THERE WAS NO EPISODE ON 1/26/91.

The thread originated solely here, on a.t.t-p, where Rod Johnson cleverly
(and straight-facedly) invented a commentary/description of a non-existent
episode--more or less a biting satire on our discussion habits, not to
mention on the show itself.

For those of you who might have missed it:

(God, I feel like Joe Piscopo's Ted Koppel)

THERE WAS NO EPISODE ON 1/26/91.

Cordially,

M.S. Rooney

P.S.: My favorite posting in the entire thread remains Kathleen Hunt's
      "transcript" of the scene at the end in the Sheriff's office, with
      the llama and the OAM babbling mystically.  "Birds can fly," indeed.

In article <3261@polari.UUCP> archie@polari.UUCP (Elizabeth Eaton) writes:
> >
> >Where would one write to save the "Peaks Freaks?"  I'd die without my Saturday


NO KIDDING!

Actually, it is pretty frightening to think of all those Peak Freaks without
a TP fix. Look at the nonsense that ensued when the missed just one 
episode.

Dear Idiot:

    Get a Life.

I don't know why your news-reader is messed up, but there have been more
postings in the last 3 days than I have seen in a long time on this
group, which just proves that 1/26 was one of the best episodes this
season.  I hope that can follow up on Saturday

st883045@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

> >Kimmy robertson also had a bit part as a hairdresser in a episode of
> >Married with Children... which was aired last season. When I first saw TP
> >I knew that I recognised her from somewhere. It was her voice that tipped
> >me off. Hope this helps. AND CUT THE SHIT ABOUT THE 1/26/91 EPISODE!!!
> >WHAT DID THEY DO, DECIDE TO SHOW IT ON A TOWN-BY-TOWN BASIS IN CALIFORNIA?
> >WILL SOMEONE ADMIT THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST? ANYONE?

Hey, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it's not there! :-)


-- Sanjiv Sarwate "But what is truth? sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.eduIs truth unchanging law? BITNET: SANJIV@UIUCVMD.BITNETWe both have truths. Are mine the same as yours?"

In article <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
> >In article <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:
> >
>> >>P.S. I'm with Brett--I missed the bit about Andrew Packard's being
>> >>a diabetic.
> >
> >I dunno, maybe I'm wrong (that's never happened before!)--what else
> >would Packard be doing with all that insulin?  That *was* insulin,
> >wasn't it?

No, no, Rod.  That wasn't insulin, in was *humulin* (the synthetic form of
insulin).
Remember he made that clear when he told Catherine, and Lola (this was the
first we'd seen of her, right?) that Eckerts plan was to acquire the mill, so
that he could use it as a cover to manufacture humulin domestically, using the
cheap labor of all those unemployed loggers, and therefore ruin all the domestic
pharmecutical (sp) company's who produce insulin (i.e. Lilly, Squibb, Bob's
Insulin Shop).

If that happens, then all of Packards investments in those company's won't be
worth pennies!

All you guy's who missed this must've been seein' a man about a horse when
this happened.  I usually wait for the commercials.  Otherwise, who knows what
you'll miss?

BTW: I figured that Andrew was a diabetic when we first saw him a few weeks ago.
When he stepped out of the shadows, he had an alcohol swap in his left (or was
it right) hand.  Also, there was a syringe cap on the desk where Catherine sat.
Oh no!  I hope that Josie didn't see it!

> >-- 
> > Rod Johnson  *  rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu  *  (313) 650 2315 



-- ========================================================================== David D. Smith ...!{ulowell,samsung,decvax,ism780c,ima}!cg-atla!dsmith "Sssshhhhh, the maestro is decomposing" - Gary Larson

Has anyone else mentioned the new music introduced on TP 1-26?

I guess that the public brawl between Lynch and Angelo Balathatteverhisnameis
has caused Angelo to be kicked off the TP production squad.

However, I was pleased to see that Paul Westerberg of The Replacements was
choosen to score the music for the 1-26 show.  However, I think that playing
"I Will Dare" during that wacky car chase scene was too much.

I saw Lynch on _Donahue_ last week discussing his fallout with Angelo.  He
said that he is choosing a different musical artist to score each new show.
So far he has lined up:

Next week : Chuck D. and Flavor Flav
In 3 Weeks: Le Mystere Des Voix Bulgares

I can't wait!


-- ========================================================================== David D. Smith ...!{ulowell,samsung,decvax,ism780c,ima}!cg-atla!dsmith "Sssshhhhh, the maestro is decomposing" - Gary Larson

I hope someone can help me.

Is anyone out there willing to send me, in exchange for valuable consideration
to be negotiated, the last four episodes of TP on VHS cassette?  SP stereo
recordings would be swell, but not absolutely necessary.

I would, of course, cover postage and cassette prices in addition to the 
aforementioned Valuable Consideration.

Just to be perfectly clear about it:  The last episode I saw was the one which
ended with Major Briggs and Coop out at the campsite; Coop went off to pee and
Major Briggs vanished in a puff of bright light.

Someone help me, please!!

chaz

BTW, please e-mail with offers of help.

-- Someone please release me from this trance. clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu AOL:Crowbone

If an episode of Twin Peaks is shown on a TV in a forest, but no
one is there to see it....

Only the owls know for sure.


-- John Coppinger "You'll find that your left cuff link University of Kentucky will be communicating with your right johnc@s.ms.uky.edu cuff link via satellite" JOHNC@UKMA.BITNET -- Nicholas Negroponte

rooney@oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:

> >Alright, already.

[bits about how the 1/26 episode never happened]

Yeah, but wasn't it hilarious?  :-)

> >P.S.: My favorite posting in the entire thread remains Kathleen Hunt's
> >      "transcript" of the scene at the end in the Sheriff's office, with
> >      the llama and the OAM babbling mystically.  "Birds can fly," indeed.

Well, my votes for alt.tv.twin-peaks commendations (or threats, depending
on how compulsive you are :-) ) go to:

Rod Johnson, for starting the whole thing.
David Coufal, for the fake credits.
and (I think...but I'm not positive) Sanjiv Sarwate, for his two backwards
verses that Audrey Horne "read".

A special bravo to them, but my compliments to all concerned.  God, this was
fun to read.

Tim Lynch (Cornell's first Astronomy B.A.; one of many Caltech grad students)
BITNET:  tlynch@citjuliet
INTERNET:  tlynch@juliet.caltech.edu
UUCP:  ...!ucbvax!tlynch%juliet.caltech.edu@hamlet.caltech.edu
...but I bet some people still won't figure it out...

In article <0094387C.EB1502E0@pip.cc.brandeis.edu> st883045@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
 ...AND CUT THE SHIT ABOUT THE 1/26/91 EPISODE!!!
> >WHAT DID THEY DO, DECIDE TO SHOW IT ON A TOWN-BY-TOWN BASIS IN CALIFORNIA?
> >WILL SOMEONE ADMIT THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST? ANYONE?

OK. You're right; it's not fair. We've had a good long run of this scam,
and a lot of people were fooled, but now we have to admit it.

California doesn't exist.

Sam Needham - pretending to be a grad student at a backlot in Vegas codenamed
"UCLA". 




"Look, Mr Vaculik", he said with a smile ... " I know you'll put all this into
one of your articles... and you'll call it 'A Cup of Coffee with My
Interrogator'" I almost fell off my chair. It was no use - they know everything.
-Ludvik Vaculik, "A Cup of Coffee with My Interrogator"

  Hi. Could someone mail me a synopsis of the 1/19 episode? I missed
it and haven't been able to catch one on the newsgroup. 

  Not seeing it made 1/26 very difficult to follow.


-Rob



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st883045@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

> >Kimmy robertson also had a bit part as a hairdresser in a episode of
> >Married with Children... which was aired last season. When I first saw TP
> >I knew that I recognised her from somewhere. It was her voice that tipped
> >me off. Hope this helps.

No, I saw the episode you're talking about, and that WASN'T Kimmy
Robertson.

> >AND CUT THE SHIT ABOUT THE 1/26/91 EPISODE!!!
> >WHAT DID THEY DO, DECIDE TO SHOW IT ON A TOWN-BY-TOWN BASIS IN CALIFORNIA?
> >WILL SOMEONE ADMIT THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST? ANYONE?

Don't get mad at the people who were lucky enough to see this episode
just because you didn't.  The show EXISTS, and you missed it.


--
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brett@ucippro.bitnet| Will warn him against the use of arms for conquest.
                    | Even the finest arms are an instrument of evil:
                    | An army's harvest is a waste of thorns." - _Tao Te Ching_

      I have missed the last two episodes(1/19,1/26). I know, blaspheme, etc.
I am ready to attone my sending by gladly reading any synopsis anyone would
care to send me.
                                            -The Joker

name that picture dept:

Early 60;s murder mystery. Directed by Blake Edwards? Set in "Twin Peaks".
Murderer: "Red Lynch".

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You sons of bitches.

I go away for a few days, miss the start of the thread, and what
happens?  I wade through 50+ of these things before finally catching on.
 I was a raving lunatic for a full half-hour.

I'm never forgiving you.

Well.....<grins>......ok, so you got me.......:-)

==========================================================================
Jeff Shaevel                                shaevel@shaevel.austin.ibm.com
"...and it *was* love, even if it was only for a few hours." -- R. Chesley

I'm amazed that no one has mentioned Audrey and Cooper's fabulous
nude scene. Man, was that hot! I didn't realize you could show
full-frontal nudity on network t.v.
-- c2h5oh@ucscb.ucsc.edu | "Now what on earth does 'cream the butter' | mean? I'd better look it up. I hope it's in | this dictionary of Pictish and Proto-Saxon."

In article <1991Jan31.194934.19345@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes:
> >st883045@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> >
>> >>Kimmy robertson also had a bit part as a hairdresser in a episode of
>> >>Married with Children... which was aired last season. When I first saw TP
>> >>I knew that I recognised her from somewhere. It was her voice that tipped
>> >>me off. Hope this helps. AND CUT THE SHIT ABOUT THE 1/26/91 EPISODE!!!
>> >>WHAT DID THEY DO, DECIDE TO SHOW IT ON A TOWN-BY-TOWN BASIS IN CALIFORNIA?
>> >>WILL SOMEONE ADMIT THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST? ANYONE?
> >
> >Hey, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it's not there! :-)

Yeah. In fact if you didn't notice:

In the 1/26 episode Kimmy Robertson also played the part of the hairdresser
that fixed up Catherine's hair in the opening scene.  

Hard to believe how she can change her voice like that!

-Matt Brockman

     And now the truth.  For all of you who 
still haven't caught on, the so-called "1/26 
episode" was in reality nothing more than a 
collection of the red herring out-takes that 
the writers script into the shooting schedule 
every week to maintain the veil of secrecy over 
the plot until airtime.  Every interpretation of 
those scenes represented nothing more than the 
viewer's attempt to fit the action into his or 
her preconceived notions of the story.  In 
actuality, there was no connection whatsoever 
between what was shown on 1/26 and any other 
part of the series, or even between the 
different segments of that episode, as those 
segments were actually taped at various times 
and in different contexts over the course of the 
first 1-1/2 seasons.

     So there.

                         David

     OK - I know I'm a little behind the times, 
but I'd like to post a few notes on 1/19.  
Remember 1/19?  That was the episode that occurred.

- Why was Evelyn wearing LP sunglasses?  Donna 
  wore LP sunglasses just before BOB tried to kill 
  her.

- Mike Nelson is turned on by Nadine - note his 
  hand on her back when she jumps him in the diner.  
  He just can't deal with it cuz it's too weird.

- Wasn't that throbbing theme that played while 
  Harry and Josie were kissing Andrew Packard's theme?

- Whoever saw a half-moon on its side like that?

- Coop sitting on the floor of Dead Dog Farm with 
  Jean standing over him - catch the peace sign 
  on the wall above him - rust-colored - like blood.

- Jean's speech about the "quiet people quiet no 
  longer" - As Coop listens, the flashing lights 
  illuminate his face just like BOB's when he's 
  in his BOB Agony/Ecstasy.

- What was that swing above the bed in the 
  Shelley/Leo scene?  A sex chair?  (P.S. - This 
  reminds me of the widow's bag of tricks at 
  Dougie's deathbed.  In addition to "My Secret 
  Life" and the transparent mask, there was a 
  stuffed animal and a bullwhip).

- What was hanging from the light fixture in the 
  Shelley/Leo scene?  Looked like something organic 
  - like a stomach.


lilj - WELL

Brett J. Vickers writes: [re: Jan. 26 episode]
> >rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
> >
>> >>--what the heck was Johnny Horne doing driving a *police car*??
> >
> >Good question.  If you listen to him carefully while he is
> >mumbling, you can almost hear him say something about owls.
> >At least I think that's what he was saying.
> >
I thought he said, "J'ai une ame solitaire."
What's the French word for owl? Maybe he was talking about owls in French.

In article <3452@nosc.NOSC.MIL> carlin@gandalf.nosc.mil (Mike Carlin) writes:
> >
> >KGTV Channel 10, the ABC affiliate in San Diego, experienced sound 
> >problems during the 1/26/91 episode.  The audio level dropped so low that
> >it became impossible to hear any dialog.  Did any other part of the
> >country suffer this problem or was it limited to San Diego?  
> >Unfortunately, the problem occurred during the pivotal scene where Dick
> >died.  Just as Dick was about to utter his final words, the sound dropped
> >out :-(.  I'd appreciate it if someone would post Dick's last words.
I also noticed the dialog dropping out in several places, but it wasn't so
bad that I couldn't understand it (except when Dick was making gurgling
noises and trying to talk at the same time).
Dick said "I've fallen, and I can't get up!"
I think Johnny has been getting out a lot more than we were led to believe.
Did you notice the Bookhouse Boys patch on Johnny's jacket (upper left arm)?
He's an excellent driver.
I agree with the viewer who said the "insulin" was B0B-away, the familiar
blue gel, now in paste form:-)  But why was there so much of it?  One for
each solitary soul?
Re: the white horse at the waterfall...I think Cooper is going to realise
that it is his only way to get to the White Lodge.  Remember the OAM said
one could fly to the Lodge (like an owl) or get there on cloven hooves or
four legs or something similar (in other words, a two-legged creature can't
just walk there).  But he'll probably have to go thru the Black Lodge first.
What was Bobby's motive for shooting Cooper, anyway?  Or was this some kind
of ruse to flush out the real assailant?
Can't wait for 2/2/91.
--Jim

Favorite quote from 1/26:
Albert on the phone to coop:
"Of all the things I know, one has always fascinated me: how supposedly
normal people of what they claim to be average intellegence say they
saw something that did not exist, while the rest of the world wonders what
they've been watching. I don't know, Coop, perhaps you or your llama
can explain it."



hee...
actually, I've more enjoyed the agony and utter frustration conveyed over
the net by people who are willing to sacrifice their first born to get
a copy of the 1/26 tape. I dunno about you- but I'm keeping mine safe-
ougth to prove a valuable collectors item.....


rON. (blowfish@hydra.unm.edu!ariel.unm.edu)
"It is only with the heart that one see rightly;
 what is essential is invisible to the eye."

In article <009436EB.F29A73C0@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU> vargo@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU writes:
> >I'm 35. What do you want to know?



Yeah- why are so many people at Brandeis wondering what happened to the
1/26 show? Can't they accept the reality of it all?


rON. (blowfish@hydra.unm.edu!ariel.unm.edu)
"It is only with the heart that one see rightly;
 what is essential is invisible to the eye."

from January-February issue of "Spy" magazine:

                          Is David Lynch David Byrne?

                            Something Wild at Heart

                       A Cutting-Edge-Auteur Scorecard
                       
                                 Lynch                 Byrne
                                 -----                 -----
First name David?                Yes                   Yes

Attended art school?             Dropped out of        Dropped out of
                                 Pennsylvania Academy  Rhode Island School
                                 of Fine Arts after    of Design after
                                 two years             two years

Early fame with 'head'           Late-1970s            Late-1970s
                                 experimental film,    experimental band,
                                 "Eraserhead"          Talking Heads
                                 
Continued fame with 'man'        Auteured 1980s film   Auteured 1980s song
                                 "The Elephant Man"    "Television Man"
                                 
Preoccupied with banal           Yes                   Yes
middle-class life and psycho 
killers?

Mainstream breakthrough          First TV series,      First feature film,
                                 "Twin Peaks", a       "True Stories", a
                                 darkly satric look    darkly satiric look
                                 at small-town life    at small-town life
                                 in Washington, close  in Texas, close
                                 to the Canadian       to the Mexican
                                 border                border

Crossover project                Wrote lyrics for      Wrote music for
                                 album (Julee Cruise)  ballet (Twyla Tharp's
                                                       "Catherine Wheel")
                                                       
Last name describes grisly       Yes                   Yes
form of homicide?

Oddly named collaborator         Angelo Badalamenti    Brian Eno

Preferred attire                 Big black suits,      Big white suits,
                                 shirt buttoned up     shirt buttoned up
                                 
Material has been performed      Yes                   Yes
at Brooklyn Academy of Music?

Has been on cover of Time?       Yes                   Yes

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about.     --- John von Neumann         | Santa Clara, California

> > AND CUT THE SHIT ABOUT THE 1/26/91 EPISODE!!!  WHAT DID THEY DO,
> > DECIDE TO SHOW IT ON A TOWN-BY-TOWN BASIS IN CALIFORNIA?  WILL
> > SOMEONE ADMIT THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST? ANYONE?
___
__  No, it really depended on your cable company.  The San
_   Francisco station I usually watch it on didn't carry it,
    but my friend gets like 50 cable stations (half of them
    seem to be wildlife shows!), and I found it on one of
    those.  I think the station we watched was from up north
    of here (in logging country---I guess that's _Twin_Peaks_
    and anti-owl (no flames, please) territory), or maybe it
    was just in the northern Central Valley, like around
    Vacaville.
___
__  I'll have to check the tape.  Since I missed taping the
_   beginning, I didn't bother to edit out the commercials.
    It probably has the station identification on it.
    <_Jym_>

:::.-----.::: Jym Dyer :::::: jym@mica.berkeley.edu :::.______.:::
::/  o o  \::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::| Damn |\::
::\ \___/ /:: I put my panties on one leg at a time. ::| Fine |/::
:::`-----':::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::`------':::

___
__  Here's the scoop:  The January 26th episode wasn't aired
_   everywhere.  As we've seen here, it was pretty bizarre.
___
__  People who hadn't seen it started saying that there wasn't
_   such an episode.  Once they started posting things to that
    effect, even going so far as to declare it a hoax, others
    got playful:  They started making things up.
___
__  What can I say?  Some of the postings about the 26th episode
_   are accurate, and some are not.  It was bizarre, but not as
    bizarre as the postings suggest!  For example, that bit about
    _Moonlighting_ and Marlene Dietrich was just people yanking
    our chains.  The stuff about the Dalai Lama wasn't, though.
    <_Jym_>

:::.-----.::: Jym Dyer :::::: jym@mica.berkeley.edu :::.______.:::
::/  o o  \::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::| Damn |\::
::\ \___/ /:: I put my panties on one leg at a time. ::| Fine |/::
:::`-----':::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::`------':::

One observation....

At the end of the "James Rescue" scene as they were riding off, wasn't 
James whistling the same tune (in a different key), that Cooper and 
Leland (as BOB) were singing/whistling ????

I played it back several times and I could swear he was whistling it.

Could BOB be headed towards James ??? (There IS enough room inside there!!)

Hmmm.....

tlynch@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:

> >rooney@oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:

>> >>Alright, already.

> >[bits about how the 1/26 episode never happened]

> >Yeah, but wasn't it hilarious?  :-)

>> >>P.S.: My favorite posting in the entire thread remains Kathleen Hunt's
>> >>      "transcript" of the scene at the end in the Sheriff's office, with
>> >>      the llama and the OAM babbling mystically.  "Birds can fly," indeed.

> >Well, my votes for alt.tv.twin-peaks commendations (or threats, depending
> >on how compulsive you are :-) ) go to:

> >Rod Johnson, for starting the whole thing.
> >David Coufal, for the fake credits.
> >and (I think...but I'm not positive) Sanjiv Sarwate, for his two backwards
> >verses that Audrey Horne "read".

> >A special bravo to them, but my compliments to all concerned.  God, this was
> >fun to read.

> >Tim Lynch (Cornell's first Astronomy B.A.; one of many Caltech grad students)
> >BITNET:  tlynch@citjuliet
> >INTERNET:  tlynch@juliet.caltech.edu
> >UUCP:  ...!ucbvax!tlynch%juliet.caltech.edu@hamlet.caltech.edu
> >...but I bet some people still won't figure it out...

Thank you much.  I was the one who put in the backwards verses.  To finally
clear up the ambiguity, the verses read:
Through the dark of future past
The magician longs to see
One chants out between two worlds
Fire, walk with me.

Then a verse about the fact that these people (myself included) were pulling
your electronic legs.  God, I haven't laughed so hard in ages, reading all of
the "AAAGH!! SEND ME A TAPE!!" postings.  Thanks, Rod, for making a.t.t-p
a more interesting place for all.

Ciao!

"They own their own little lives.  They just hate to face up to it."
-Lucifer Morningstar, Sandman #23


-- Sanjiv Sarwate "But what is truth? sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.eduIs truth unchanging law? BITNET: SANJIV@UIUCVMD.BITNETWe both have truths. Are mine the same as yours?"

In article <1991Jan31.142142.21387@rodan.acs.syr.edu> bwdavies@rodan.acs.syr.edu writes:
> >
> >Well, here it is. "Coop.  I may be wearing a dress, but I still put my 
> >panties on one leg at a time. Know what I mean." "Not really."
> >

Could your repost it - uuencoded instead of binhexed? Thanks,

Mat
-- W Mat Waites | Walking the wire is living, {gatech,emory}!emcard!mat | the rest is just waiting. - Wallenda

Thanks for the following: 
...
> >If Denise is like my friend, then "relaxed" just means that the tension
> >between feeling feminine and having to act masculine (including attire)
> >is releaved when he can put on the dress and release those feelings.  He
> >may very well "put his panties on one leg at a time" and remain
> >heterosexually oriented.  Most cross-dressers are.
> >
> >By the way, I find the slash form of her name (Dennis/Denise) odd.  If
> >she wants to be thought of as a woman, she should be addressed as such
> >and called by her name.  It was only for that one mission that she chose
> >to "pose" as Dennis.  
> >Just MHO, but a point of sensitivity for any who may meet transvestites
> >(or transexuals)....
                                         Jeff Shaevel                                
In my travels I've met some transexuals and transvestites too, and I feel
strongly that it is courteous to address them by the name they chose. But
I also defend my right to think of them privately as I see fit. In my own
mind I don't perceive a feminine soul when I look at the character, in my
mind I see Dennis in Denise and see no harm in talking of him that way,
since he has no net access. But it is quite a moral point and quite an
question of etiquette, how to discuss a non-existent person behind their non-
back.
 
a.h.

st883045@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> >WILL SOMEBODY WITH A LEVEL F*CK*NG HEAD TELL ME THE TRUTH ABOUT THE 1/26/91
> >EPISODE!!!!!?????!!!!!?????
> >...(notice the distinct lack of postings in the last few days? I used
> >to read 50-80 in a day, the last 3 days-NONE!!!)

Something's wrong with your newsfeed.  Due to all the net traffic this week
discussing the *outrageous* 1/26 show, the net powers created
alt.tv.twin-peaks.jan26.  That's where most of the discussion has been.
Talk with your sysops people.

> >Thanks for letting me get this out of the way.

Sure, sure, and it was cheaper (and probably more effective) than the
63-year old psychologist nodding off all afternoon in the campus infirmary.
-- Steve Carnes carnes@ico.isc.com uucp: {ncar,nbires}!ico!carnes "Goodbye and so long Glen Canyon Dam." - Seldom Seen Smith

rooney@oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:
 <blather about "THERE WAS NO EPISODE ON 1/26/91." deleted...>
> >(God, I feel like Joe Piscopo's Ted Koppel)
> >THERE WAS NO EPISODE ON 1/26/91.

Ack, I've been blind!  It was Joe Piscopo who played the coroner's
assistant on the 1/26 show.  He was the one who found the "m" under
the fingernail of Mrs. Hayward.

Thanks for the clue, M.S.!  I'll go home at lunch and rewatch the
episode.
-- Steve Carnes carnes@ico.isc.com uucp: {ncar,nbires}!ico!carnes "Goodbye and so long Glen Canyon Dam." - Seldom Seen Smith

Ok guys here it is there was no show on 1/26/91 ANYWHERE stop worrying
go home get some sleep and be ready for saturday.
*********************
SOME POSTULATIONS

Leo is still psycho

The dead chess player is a man not the log-lady

James has not (at least not yet) taken up cross-country/cross dressing
motorcycling.

Donna's death will be next and no one will care -- calling it a mercy killing

The south will rise again.
 
Roseanne Barr really *is* talented and will eventually show this to the
rest of the world
 
Peace, 
Steven


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In article <140673@tiger.oxy.edu> rooney@oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:
> >The thread originated solely here, on a.t.t-p, where Rod Johnson cleverly
> >(and straight-facedly) invented a commentary/description of a non-existent
> >episode--more or less a biting satire on our discussion habits, not to
> >mention on the show itself.

Well, not "biting".  "Fond", really.

> >P.S.: My favorite posting in the entire thread remains Kathleen Hunt's
> >      "transcript" of the scene at the end in the Sheriff's office, with
> >      the llama and the OAM babbling mystically.  "Birds can fly," indeed.

This was excellent.  I hereby award Kathleen the coveted Golden
Vicuna of Excellence.

(I'm still disappointed no one picked up on the Clivus Multrum.  I
didn't think it was *possible* to be *too* obscure here!)

Thanks to all the ad hoc co-conspirators.


-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "The sun is one foot wide" --Heraclitus

In article <22954@well.sf.ca.us> lilj@well.sf.ca.us (Joshua Neil Rubin) writes:
> >
> >     And now the truth.  For all of you who 
> >still haven't caught on, the so-called "1/26 
> >episode" was in reality nothing more than a 
> >collection of the red herring out-takes that 
> >the writers script into the shooting schedule 
> >every week to maintain the veil of secrecy over 

Oh. I thought it was Twin Peaks Bloopers. Damn.


-- Jackie Burhans (burhans@usc.edu) Data Stylist, USC Student Affairs

all this debate on weather 1/26 really happenned. the answer is clear to me -

ONLY THE PURE OF HEART COULD SEE IT!

oh well, I didn't get to see it!!

laura

In article <1991Feb1.160659.7541@watserv1.waterloo.edu> alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes:
> >Thanks for the following: 
> >...
>> >>If Denise is like my friend, then "relaxed" just means that the tension
>> >>between feeling feminine and having to act masculine (including attire)
>> >>is releaved when he can put on the dress and release those feelings.  He
>> >>may very well "put his panties on one leg at a time" and remain
>> >>heterosexually oriented.  Most cross-dressers are.
>> >>

For the edification of Denise (and James) fans from DR. JOYCE BROTHERS 2/1
Column in the LATimes:

Dear Dr. Brothers: When my next door neighbor and I were doing laundry
recently, she confessed to me that her husband (who's the most macho guy
one could imagine) likes to wear women's nighties and under things. My mouth
fell to the floor and I couldn't disguise my shock. They seem to be a nice,
normal, happy couple, but what does this mean? D.W.

Dear D.W.: This kind of cross dressing or clothes fetish usually originates
early in a child's life when he has some erotic unconscious experience
with silky lingerie. According to Dr. Eugene E. Levitt of the Indiana
University School of Medicine, clinical investigations have revealed that 
parents of many heterosexual transvestites had deliberately prolonged
the babyhood period in which males and femmales are dressed much the same, or
they've actually dressed a boy in feminine fashions up to the age of 4, 5,
or even older. Cross dressers are overwhelmingly heterosexual and most are
happily married men with families and children. These men, who usually
appear very macho, have no desire for  divorce or sexual change. They tend
to be conventional and conservative in most other ways.
Washington D.D., therapist Karen Shanor conducted a study of a number of
relatively successful, middle class males and when they were asked if they'd
ever wanted to wear women's clothing, 40% answered in the affirmative.


-- Jackie Burhans (burhans@usc.edu) Data Stylist, USC Student Affairs

In article <jgp.665396738@rutabaga>, jgp@rutabaga.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann) writes:
> > from January-February issue of "Spy" magazine:
> > 
> >                           Is David Lynch David Byrne?
> > 
> >                             Something Wild at Heart
> > 
> >                        A Cutting-Edge-Auteur Scorecard
> >                        
> >                                  Lynch                 Byrne
> >                                  -----                 -----

       Scottish ?                  Not at all.           Yes.


-- Hans H\"{u}ttel, Office 1603 JANET: hans@uk.ac.ed.lfcs Lab. for Foundations of Comp. Sci. UUCP: ..!mcvax!ukc!lfcs!hans JCMB, University of Edinburgh ARPA: hans%lfcs.ed.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, SCOTLAND Casualties ? Nothing casual about dying.

In article <1991Feb1.140559.7447@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> xxmartn@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov writes:
> >At the end of the "James Rescue" scene as they were riding off, wasn't 
> >James whistling the same tune (in a different key), that Cooper and 
> >Leland (as BOB) were singing/whistling ????
> >I played it back several times and I could swear he was whistling it.
> >Could BOB be headed towards James ??? (There IS enough room inside there!!)
> >
I'm sure he is, because in the scene just before he was rescued, there
was a picture of Three Mile Island on the back wall.  Sure sign that 
BOB is near.

Small Nitpick:  Why doesn't Lynch kill off the bad actors instead of the
good ones?

It was also a treat to see that the hunch a lot of people had about "the
late" Andy Kaufman turned out to be correct.

Angus MacDonald
idddev@well.sf.ca.us
Opinions expressed in this message are solely my own.

c2h5oh@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Idealistic Bibliomystic) writes:
> >I'm amazed that no one has mentioned Audrey and Cooper's fabulous
> >nude scene. Man, was that hot! I didn't realize you could show
> >full-frontal nudity on network t.v.

Give me a break.  You obviously could not have seen the 1/26 episode, or
else you're lying your ass off.  Nothing like this happened in the
Twin Peaks I saw that night.  Geez, talk about giving fuel to the people
who think this episode was a hoax...

--
bvickers@ics.uci.edu|"One who would guide a leader of men in the uses of life
brett@ucippro.bitnet| Will warn him against the use of arms for conquest.
                    | Even the finest arms are an instrument of evil:
                    | An army's harvest is a waste of thorns." - _Tao Te Ching_

In article <29779@usc> burhans@mizar.usc.edu (Mustang Sally) writes:
> >In article <1991Feb1.160659.7541@watserv1.waterloo.edu> alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes:
> >
> >For the edification of Denise (and James) fans from DR. JOYCE BROTHERS 2/1
> >Column in the LATimes:
> >
Cross dressers are *overwhelmingly heterosexual*  ....

I like the sound of that. That caught my attention.
Reminds me of the time I was dozing through a talk by a very intense,
very anti-male speaker who made reference to something she called
"compulsive heterosexuality".  For a minute there i thought she was
finally talking about a subject of mutual interest but it turned out she
meant "obligatory heterosexual orientation". bummer. Oh well,
I'll stop bothing bothering you all now.
 
a.h.

In article <1991Feb1.140559.7447@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> xxmartn@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov writes:
> >At the end of the "James Rescue" scene as they were riding off, wasn't 
> >James whistling the same tune (in a different key), that Cooper and 
> >Leland (as BOB) were singing/whistling ????

Not only was it in a different key, but it was in minor Dorian, too.
That right there's proof enough that Jacoby will be the next person to
die.

Also, if you look *very* closely in the headlamp of the motorcycle
right before it hits the camera, you can definitely see a woman's eye
reflected in it.  That's proof that Laura has a second cousin who
looks almost exactly like Josie Packard.

> >Could BOB be headed towards James ??? (There IS enough room inside there!!)

No, he's already got Shelley.  Remember the dream sequence that they
had near the beginning of the episode, when Cooper had a vision of a
dwarf taunting him on a Saturday-night comedy television show?

Hope this clears things up.

     << Brian >>

| Brian S. Kendig      \ Macintosh |   Engineering,   | bskendig             |
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"It's not that I don't have the work to *do* -- I don't do the work I *have*."

>>>> > > >>sturner@attcan.UUCP (Samantha Turner) writes:
>>>> > > >>When I saw the body, I didn't even think it was real, but because all those
>>>> > > >>around me did, we replayed it MANY times.  I still think it's just a
>>>> > > >>mannican(sp) or whatever.....
> > 
>> > > Considering the antics they have played with credits before, it could be
>> > > yet another ruse...
>> > > Brian
> > 
> > Well, a friend of mine who works with Kyle's brother Kent said that
> > Craig works as a production assistant on the set of TP.
> > 
> > So perhaps the dead body is supposed to be a mannican (look-alike) of
> > Agent Cooper, and with the top of his head covered with a wig, Craig's
> > jaw line looks enough like Kyle's to pass. 


That's exactly what I was thinking when I found out that their was a 
credit for the dead man.  No mannican could ever have a jaw so perfectly
matched to Kyle's, but his brothers might.

Does your friend that works with Kyle's brother Kent know whether or not Kyle
and Craig have the same jaw.  Well, not the SAME jaw, but ones that look
alot alike.


sam

In article <00943614.33DDD940@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>, vargo@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU writes:
> > Since TP wasn't on, I rented Blue Velvet. (Thanks to all of you who sent
> > a synopsis).  "Hardy boys go to Hell" may have been the best description
> > I received.
> > 
> > While I like Twin Peaks, I did not really find Blue Velvet to be entertaining.
> > Interesting, yes.  

I just had to respond to this.

I don't think Blue Velvet was meant to be entertaining.  Disturbing maybe, but
not entertaining.  

I know alot of people that had to see it a few times before they could sit
through the whole thing

Interesting is another good discription thoug.

sam

In article <4983@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes...
> >(I'm still disappointed no one picked up on the Clivus Multrum.  I
> >didn't think it was *possible* to be *too* obscure here!)
Some of us *did*.  Wasn't it better unacknowledged and thereby unpicked-on :-)

It was *great*, esp. in the context of recycling.

"I came to discuss plastic surgery, but I could wait."
-- Martha Frankel

Eirikur Hallgrimsson
eh@ranger.enet.dec.com

In <1991Jan29.024111.5948@nas.nasa.gov> doron@cs.cornell.edu (Leor Doron) writes:

> >   Dalai Lama... 

I seem to have had the impression that the Dalai Lama was the head
of a Tibetan Buddhist sect, but from reading your posting, he seems
to be the Tibetan ruler.

--
   Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo.
            Respectfully,
           Keith Evanskde@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov

In article <132@crystel.UUCP> ronnie@crystel.UUCP (Ron Schnell) writes:

> >I have made the audio to the 1/26 episode available via anonymous ftp from
> >UUNET.UU.NET in /pub/audio/twin-peaks/tp[000000-90000]. 

That's a neat idea, but you're lying, apparently.  There is no
directory /pub/audio on uunet.
Are these actually around somewhere?

Eric Olson <ejo@ims.alaska.edu> Gryphon Gang Fairbanks AK 99775
"...Like, when people ask you what 'Relax' was about, when it first
came out we used to pretend it was about motivation, and really it was
about shagging."  --Mark O'Toole of Frankie Goes to Hollywood

In article <1991Feb1.184332.7872@nntp-server.caltech.edu> floom@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Laura E. Floom) writes:
> >
> >all this debate on weather 1/26 really happenned. the answer is clear to me -
> >
> >ONLY THE PURE OF HEART COULD SEE IT!

You mean only the DAMNED and the GIFTED could see it!

(now if I only knew which category I fit in....)


-Matt Brockman

Oooooo!  I like that theory!  Kudos!