Season 2, Episode 16: The Condemned Woman — February 16–March 27, 1991

Does anyone still have the list of Albert's quotes. I would really like a copy of them. You can send them to me .... email: jrseay@athena.mit.edu    ....

Thanks a million in advance.

Coffee and Donuts for all!!!!!!!

James Seay

In article <26667.9103050935@uk.ac.keele.seq1> iru03@seq1.keele.ac.uk (P.R. Grove) writes:
> >
> >Finally, can someone tell me what exactly are "dunkin doughnuts", and
> >where can I get then in the UK?
> >
> >
> >Paul R. Grove.
> >
> >Dept. of International Relations, Universiy of Keele, UK.
> >

Dunkink donuts are a special donut with a little "handle" on it - to make
it easier for dunking into milk or coffee. They are made by donut shops
in the US called (appropriately) Dunkin Donuts. In fact, they invented
them.

                    __
                    ||
                   /  \
                  ( () )
                   \__/

            (dunkin donut with little dunking handle!)    :-)

Janet 
-- ____*_ Janet Christian jchristian@indetech.com \ / / Independence Technologies {sun,sharkey,pacbell}!indetech!jchristian \/ / 42705 Lawrence Place FAX: 415 438-2034 \/ Fremont, CA 94538 Voice: 415 438-2054

Well, the survey is coming along nicely; my favorite episodes
seem to have been increasing in point totals over the last couple of
days, so I am pleased.  You will have some idea what I'm talking about
when I post the results, hopefully this Friday.
In the meantime, votes will continue to be tallied, so if
you haven't voted, feel free to send in your ballot.  

A reminder that you are to vote for your three
favorite Twin Peaks episodes.  You are given ten points to allot,
however you want among the three.  
Here is an example from one person's response:

Number  Points  Descr.
-------------------------------------------
#1002   5       One Eyed Jack's visit, dream sequence
#1      4       Pilot
#2001   1       First Episode, second season    

If you don't remember the episode number, a brief desrpition will probably
be sufficient, since I have the timelines that have been so kindly posted
on the net.
Look forward to hearing from all of you!

Sini Gandhi
giron@husc9.harvard.edu

In article <1991Mar11.210150.2200@athena.mit.edu> jrseay@athena.mit.edu (James R Seay) writes:
> >
> >Does anyone still have the list of Albert's quotes. I would really like a copy of them. You can send them to me .... email: jrseay@athena.mit.edu    ....
> >
> >Thanks a million in advance.
> >
> >Coffee and Donuts for all!!!!!!!
> >
> >James Seay

 Same here.  Actually, in addition to just the Albert quotes I would be 
EXTREMELY grateful for the last set of quotes (from everyone) posted to 
the net.  I transferred here from DC in January, so I lost touch with this
newsgroup for about 3 months while I got my account set up here.  I have been
in deep withdrawal but my recovery is coming along fine now.  Thanks a million
here too.  You will make many of my friends and I very happy.

email address:  maax170@ix1.cc.utexas.edu 
      or        wendy@einstein.ph.utexas.edu

Thanks again,

Wendy White

Do we have any assurances for next year?  Has ABC promised that even a small improvement in the ratings will help for next year?

over here in the uk tp backwater, we are currently squabling about hank
and his dominos. is this ever explained, or is it left up to the viewers
to sort it out?

i don't mind being spoiled.

david neilson

The NCAA tourney has games scheduled for this Thursday [3/14] and next
thursday [3/21].  The final four is scheduled for the weekend after TP
returns.  No games should appear opposite TP.

Nick

In article <1991Mar6.105949.10388@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> caap15@vaxa.strath.ac.uk (Magenta) writes:
> >In article <00944EAE.1AEA0F00@pip.cc.brandeis.edu>, st872486@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> >
> >BTW what _did_ happen to Audreys brother?
> >
I thought I saw him while Ben was suffering from Generalitis
with his Indian headdress on...  i could be wrong.

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) /  7:59 pm  Mar 11, 1991 /

> > I'm pleased that TP returns Thursdays because that is my tv night for the
> > week. I watch the Simpsons, ENG and LA Law. I sometimes watch 
> > Father Dowling too. I don't find a taste for Father Dowling at all
> > incompatible with a taste for TP. 
 
> > This situation has motivated me to buy the vcr hardware that will
> > allow me to watch one thing and record another. All that trouble just
> > in case the new Thursday lineup proved proves too congested.

Surely this is part of the ABC/VCR-manufacturer conspiracy?

Richard@tvs
"My vicuna"

In the UK "jelly" is to "jam" as "preserve" is to "jam".

Richard.
"Dunkin' Vicuna"

ton.edu>
Sender: 
Reply-To: rcarter@isis.UUCP (Ron Carter)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
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Keywords: March, 28, Twin, Peaks, back, six, episodes

You are right Kathleen... I screwed up the times... That's what I get for
posting messages before I wake up(?).

-- Ron Carter | rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu rcarter GEnie 70707.3047 CIS Director | Center for the Study of Creative Intelligence Denver, CO | Knowledge is power. Knowledge to the people. Just say know.

Here in Sweden we saw episode 2010 yesterday.  My impression was that
the stereo sound was seriously unblanced during most of the episode,
with much more volume on the left channel.  Did anyone else notice
this?  Does anybody have an explanation for this?

Episode 2001 ended with a dedication to the memory of Kevin Young Jr.
Who was he?

Svante

At a later date, I could probably dredge some of them out of my feeble mind-
y'all remember mid-terms, don't you.  But if anyone has them all, please
post them and/or email them to me.



Tracy "Get a life, Punk" Fluharty
School of Urban and Public Affairs
Carnegie Mellon University

Hello gang,
I just received a bit of propaganda from the Evelyn Wood Speed Reading
School (or somesuch).  Hmmm.  Is this where Evelyn Marsh got her name?  Is
it just coincidence?  Who knows.  But when you believe in the interconnected-
ness of all things it's hard to say anything is really random.

charles d. kincaid
statman@sole.stat.ufl.edu

p.s. I will be sending the quotes list to those who have asked for them over
the net.  Be looking.

"I wish I was a headlight on a northbound train.  I'd shine my light through
Colorado rain."   -Grateful Dead

In article <1991Mar12.144018.21293@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>,
Marck_Bailey@plato.nwu.edu (Marck Bailey) writes:
>> >> Twin Peaks is 9pm Eastern and Pacific, 8pm Mountain (yea!)
>> >> and Central.
> >
> > And I'm afraid even THIS may be wrong.

I think everyone is capable of looking in their local television guide
to find out what time TP will be on in their time zone.
It's easier this way.

-mfr

In article <1991Mar8.192431.16137@swl386.uucp> stevel@swl386.uucp (steve
loethen) writes:
> >i believe that "walzing matilda" is the national song (not anthem, sort of
like
> >a national fight song) of australia.
> >-- 
> >----------------------------------------------------------------
> >steven w. loethen       * ...uunet!amgraf!brian386!swl386!stevel
> >19300 e. 26th terr. s.  * or ...stevel@swl386
> >independence mo 64057   *
> >
Actually it is a folk song that's been done to death by politicians,
advertisers and jingoistic republicans. Our problem is that it is better known
(and more memorable) than the actual anthem "Advance Australia Fair", which
nobody knows the words to. When I was a sprite, it was God Save the Queen, with
royalties paid, so to speak, to Britain.

Have you been reading "Catch 22"? (Remember the discussion of the various
"vu"s, esp. "presque vu"?)

Richard.
"v[u]cuna"

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / larry@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Larry Sherman) /  8:59 pm  Mar 12, 1991 /

I suggest we award a prize to the most donut-shaped particle accelerator (rules
good old linear Stanford out, right?).

Sounds like the Joint European Torus (a stock-trading/particle acclerator
based on rocket-science technical analysis) is sure to win.

Richard.
"Poleconomy"

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / erdb04@castle.ed.ac.uk (D Neilson) /  1:06 pm  Mar 12, 1991 /

> > over here in the uk tp backwater, we are currently squabling about hank
> > and his dominos. is this ever explained, or is it left up to the viewers
> > to sort it out?

Apparently the domino is a binary encoding of the co-ordinates of the source
of the "THE/OWLS/ARE/NOT/WHAT/THEY/SEEM" message.

Richard.
"Don't knock vicuna until you've tried one."

$ pwd
/THE/OWLS/ARE/NOT/WHAT/THEY/SEEM
$ ls
vicuna
$

CAN ANYONE SEND TO ME OR POST TO THE NEWSGROUP THE ADDRESS OR A FAX NUMBER 
WHERE I CAN SEND MY LETTER OF CONDEMNATION. I HAVE ONLY BEEN READING THIS 
NEWGROUP FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS, SO IF THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE, PLEASE EXCUSE
 MY IGNORANCE.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.  I was so excited that my software once again enables me 
to post, I forgot to check the facts as they were told to me (by an 
employee of an ABC affiliate in Philadelphia, no less!)

So I apologize to all you Mountain timers.  I don't know what the hell I 
was talking about.

-----------
Marck L. Bailey
If I ever get caught, I plan to use the "coffee defense.

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / Svante.Lindahl@inmic.se /  8:15 pm  Mar 12, 1991 /

> > Here in Sweden we saw episode 2010 yesterday.

> > Episode 2001 ended with a dedication to the memory of Kevin Young Jr.
> > Who was he?

Kevin Young II was the guy who invented check-digits.

Richard@tvsz

Look' like Josie's death has made for a startling oak-Asian.

RGB

Look's like Josie's death has made for a startling oak-Asian.

RGB

So, who will die next?

Did anyone ever get their Twin Peaks Gazette?  We're still waiting.

I hope you're all through with the time zone spat.  It makes for awful
dull reading.  I've seen ya'll do much better than that.

Has Elvis been seen on TP yet?

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

This is great TV -- if Lynch/Frost doesn't carry on the show,
would you contact FOX?

I am tempted to be disappointed at any episode that doesn't
meet the standards of this script!

>>> >>> But when the programme
>>> >>> shifted from the hyper-real to the super-natural--coded radio signals 
>>> >>> from space, Laura's killer turning out to have been an elusive spirit 
>>> >>> who inhabited her father's body--it quickly became disappointingly 
>>> >>> silly.

>> >> I agree with the above, except weren't the signals FROM Earth TO space?
>> >> John A. Burns (burns@das.harvard.edu, burns@huche1.bitnet)

> >I second that emotion. Wasn't there a general feeling that the supernatural
> >explanation for WKLP was a disappointment?

I strongly vote against the "emotion" that the super-natural element
made the show "disappointingly silly."   I am surprised to find that so
many people have been unaware of the "super-natural" element in the show
this long.  Sarah had mentioned at least one dream and two visions since
the show started in the FIRST SEASON, and we also saw clues from Cooper's
FIRST dream come true in the FIRST season.  Sarah's "vision" of the
necklace being taken by Jacoby was, in fact, not just a vision but 
clairvoiance (excuse the spelling).  Further, the poem in Cooper's
dream itself hinted at the supernatural where Mike mentions "the magician"
and "one chance out between two worlds" -- I thought this  
element was one of the things that made people so interested in 
the show in the first place.
Also, what is this about coded radio signals from space or from 
earth to space???
When the "radio signal message" episode aired, I was certain that
the messages were not from another planet since it is likely that the signal
would take more time to reach Earth than the time that had elapsed since
Laura's death.  Regardless of this technical detail, Major Briggs later told 
us himself that the signals were coming FROM THE WOODS.  It's highly likely 
that the White Lodgers (or whoever was sending the signals) knew that they 
were "being watched" by Major Briggs et al. and intentionally sent the 
message out that way.

Nevertheless, although I am excited rather than put-off by the
increasingly present super-natural element in the show, I feel that many 
people have been disheartened by this, leading to a drop in viewership.

Rocky

In article <1991Mar13.134320.12013@pbs.org> mpax@pbs.org writes:
> >Did anyone ever get their Twin Peaks Gazette?  We're still waiting.

I got my sample TPG (Twin Peaks Gazette) from whoever was offering
them (sorry, forgot the name, but thanks) a couple of days ago.

There's a mistake on the first page though. It says there will
be 12 issues a month, it should say 12 monthly issues.

-Matt

Please post this list as I am a new alt.tv.t-p reader
and would *LOVE* a copy of this list, as I am sure are others
out in net.land.
-- shawn@aardvark.pdx.com "I'm with the government, I'm here to help!" "The God I believe in isn't short of cash, mister!!" -Bono

Does anyone know the answer to this question ?

matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / GIOVIN%PARIS@ecs.umass.edu (Rocky Giovinazzo-write to ABC and save Twin Peaks) / 10:04 pm  Mar 13, 1991 /

> >* ...

>> >> I second that emotion. Wasn't there a general feeling that the supernatural
>> >> explanation for WKLP was a disappointment?

> > I strongly vote against the "emotion" that the super-natural element
> > made the show "disappointingly silly."   I am surprised to find that so
> > many people have been unaware of the "super-natural" element in the show
> > this long.

In my original response I was merely expressing my memory (solicism?).

Having said that, I do think that TP would have been/fared better if they'd
applied Occam's Razor to WKLP.

Richard.
"Mac the vicuna"

In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
#
#Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
#
#matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.

Since Matt doesn't read this group should we all send different answers?  :-)

In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
> > [Who Killed Laura Palmer?]
> >Does anyone know the answer to this question ?

Sheriff Harry S. Truman.  (David Lynch guessed wrong.)

     << Brian >>

| Brian S. Kendig      \ Macintosh |   Engineering,   | bskendig             |
| Computer Engineering |\ Thought  |  USS Enterprise  | @phoenix.Princeton.EDU
| Princeton University |_\ Police  | -= NCC-1701-D =- | @PUCC.BITNET         |
"It's not that I don't HAVE the work to *do* -- I don't DO the work I *have*."

In article <27DF53A7.22387@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
> > In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
> > #Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
> > #matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.
> > 
> > Since Matt doesn't read this group should we all send different answers?  :-)

Yes. Let's. I'll tell him Albert killed LP.

++Loren

Did anyone else see the parody of Twin Peaks during part of the
'Anything But Love' episode last night (3/13 - it is part of the much
hyped morning after the two main characters finally consummate
their relationship, libidos, etc.).  Short summary:
'What I always want to know is: "Was it good for me?"'

I don't watch the show (of course), but it was on and I turned to it
when I heard the TP theme.  Richard Lewis and Jamie Lee Curtis were
discussing whether people at the magazine office would notice the
difference in them now that they had 'done it'.

Richard Lewis went into a fantasy sequence where he was Agent Cooper,
Jamie Lee Curtis was Audrey, their boss was both Nadine (with the
curtains) and the Log Lady (my log wants to know when you'll have this
article done).  Ms. Schmenkman (?) was Laura (in dead mode).  The boss's
flunky was Dr. Jacoby and there were a few other characters I believe.

Sort of like the end of the Wizard of OZ when Dorothy wakes up and
Ray Bolger and other neighbors (who look just like OZian characters)
are looking in on her thru the open window.

- Its deja vu all over again

Morrow

-- H. Morrow Long Manager of Development Yale Univ. Comp Sci Dept. Computing Facility

Comparison of the a.t.tp and Nielsen ratings (for the week period
March 4, 1991 and March 10, 1991).

                    a.t.tp     Nielsen
                    Ranking    Ranking
Simpsons (FOX)         1         30 r
Star Trek: TNG (IND)   2          #
LA Law (NBC)           3         48 r
30Something (ABC)      4        *54 r
Murphy Brown (CBS)     5        *12
Dark Shadows (NBC)     6         69
Quantum Leap (NBC)    *7         37
Wonder Years (ABC)    *7        *28
Cheers (NBC)           9          1 r
Designing Women (CBS) 10        *12

A (*) indicates a ratings tie; a (r) indicates a repeat episode; and 
a (#) indicates no Nielsen rating [probably because it is produced by
an independent network]. 


Louie

In article <15793@chaph.usc.edu> ramos@aludra.usc.edu (Luis Ramos) writes:
> >Cheers (NBC)           9          1 r
                                  ^^^

Good move by ABC to place TP against the #1 Nielsen ranked show even
with repeats! I wonder why.


Louie

In article <7861@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) writes:
> >In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
>> >>
>> >>Does anyone know the answer to this question ?

I told him the Log Lady.  Send more (different) answers.

-Matt

In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
> >
> >Does anyone know the answer to this question ?

Yes, several people do.

-Matt

Bad News:
---------
According to _Entertainment Weekly_, Cheers was first last
week -- and IT WAS A RE-RUN!  

Rocky

I just put up sign around campus telling people of the TP reutrn.

It informs them of the Recap (so they won't be lost) and of the
great cliffhanger expected.

If they like the show, I ask them to write to ABC.
Of course, there a bunch of little "rip-off" addresses
at the bottom ('cause no one will stop to write it down).

Please do the same.

I'll report later with the no. of missing addresses.

-Matt

statman@oak.circa.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) writes:

> >Hello gang,
> >I just received a bit of propaganda from the Evelyn Wood Speed Reading
> >School (or somesuch).  Hmmm.  Is this where Evelyn Marsh got her name?  Is
> >it just coincidence?  Who knows.  But when you believe in the interconnected-
> >ness of all things it's hard to say anything is really random.

> >charles d. kincaid
> >statman@sole.stat.ufl.edu

I just saw this movie called "Lair of the White Worm" last night
(great movie!).  Anyways, the actress who played the fanged-snake-
worshipping-venom-spitting-impaler-likking-vampire (sometimes green) lady 
looked a lot like Evelyn Marsh.  Coincidence?

Does anyone else who's seen this twisted movie know if she is, in fact,
one and the same?

Ray Kuo

millerl@wharton.upenn.edu (Loren J. Miller) writes:

> > In article <27DF53A7.22387@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu (Dou
>> > > In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.
>> > > #Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
>> > > #matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.
>> > > 
>> > > Since Matt doesn't read this group should we all send different answers?  :
> > 
> > Yes. Let's. I'll tell him Albert killed LP.
> > 
> > ++Loren


I'll tell him it was Cooper..

**************************************************************************
"Mr. BOB, you've killed Theresa Banks,   *                Richard Barrett
 Laura Palmer, Jacques Renault, and      *             18004 146th Ave NE
 Maddy Ferguson. What are you going to   *          Woodinville, WA 98072
 do next?"                               *                (206)487-1312
"I'm going to Disneyland!"               *hikaru%halcyon.uucp@seattleu.edu
**************************************************************************

From article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au>, by cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd):

>
> Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
>
> matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.

Heh! This is what I told him:



*Sure! It was Mayor Dwayne Milford. He killed Laura in a fit of frustration
*over his impotence. He was the only man in Twin Peaks that couldn't get it
*on with Laura.
*
*Pretty creepy, eh?

*Bob 'BOB' Cappel

I feel like such a heel...NOT!

--
Robert D. Cappel, Iowa City,IA ||
aka "BOB", eager for fun! ||"All we are saying is give Peaks a chance!"
cappel@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu || -COOP President
czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu || Keith Poston

Oh gee,  oh gosh,  oh golly.... I guess I kinda sorta did.....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

BUD



-- Dr. William K Glunt | Are you ABNORMAL? Heh heh nice ring to it!| Then you are probably better than most people! U of Kentucky math dept | Are alien space monsters bringing a STARTLING NEW home phone 606 258 8864 | WORLD? from _The book of the SubGenius_

In article <27DF53A7.22387@orion.oac.uci.edu> dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
> >In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
> >#
> >#Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
> >#
> >#matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.
> >
> >Since Matt doesn't read this group should we all send different answers?  :-)

very funny guys.....

Northern Exposure was on CBS, and it's going to be brought back later this season.

-Jeff Schwartz

I realize that this may have been discussed (i.e. the "I'd buy that for a
dollar" remark,) but I'm glad to find that I am not crazy when I noticed
3 Twin Peaks cast members in "Robocop." I was especially surprised to find
Ray Wise (Leland Palmer) portraying one of the nasty henchman for Boddicker.

Oh, well. Guess you beat me to it, but thank you for supporting my discovery.

-Andrew Weiskopf
 ST891425@pip.cc.brandeis.edu

> >In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
> >#Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
> >#matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.
> >Since Matt doesn't read this group should we all send different answers?  :-)
I think I'll tell him that it was a very clever suicide, that Laura made
to look like a murder in order to discredit the town, which she secretly
loathed. 
I think it's a realistic scenario-after all she was such a limber person and
capable of many things.
:-)


-- ----------------------------------------------------- What are you looking down | jjj@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au| here for? Look up! | "Don't call me dude!" | -----------------------------------------------------

In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
> >Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
Toad

Nearly thirty people responded to the survey, and my thanks
to all of them, along with apologies for not doing so individually.
In the first days of the survey, as results trickled in,
two episodes were ahead from the start: 1000 (the Pilot), and 1002
(the dream episode).  The latter stayed ahead of the rest of the ppack
practically from the beginning and never loosened its grip on the top
spot, although its lead  sometimes diminished.
But slowly, two other episodes began to gain ground.  Both
were from the second season: 2007 (It is happening AGAIN/Maddy doesn't
get to go back to Missoula) and 2009 (BOB leaves Leland in that
stunning episode in the jail cell).  As time went by, 2007 began to
gain on the top two.  Over the last two days, the battle for second place
went back and forth. 
Well, without further ado, the results:



Episode 1002: Dreams & Bottles79.5
Episode 2007: Maddy & BOB71.0
Episode 1000: The Pilot70.5
Episode 2009: Leland in Jail49.0
Episode 2001: Droolcup/Coop rescued  15.0  
Episode 2005: Audrey rescued  8.0 
Episode 2003: Albert speech/meet Harold 3.0 
Episode 1005: Audrey in Coop's room 3.0
Episode 2006: One Armed Man/Harold 2.0 
Episode 2011: Denise appears 2.0
Episode 2013: Major Briggs talks & runs 2.0
Episode 2016: Josiewood 1.0

Numbers add up to 306 or something, probably attributable to
incomplete point allocations by some respondents.


Almost all respondents named 1002, although not all gave it a
high number of points.  It is interesting to note, however, that respondents
otherwise pretty much split up into two camps: those who preferred the first
season, and those who preferred the second.  
My picks: 2007, 5 points, 2009 3 pts, and 2006 (Donna and Maddie
are retrieved from Harold's place by James.  Harold: "You have impurified
me."  Also, One-Armed Man's trance), 2 points.
Once again, my thanks to all who responded, and thanks to Edwin
Nomura for his timeline, which was extraordinarily useful.  It has been
wonderful receiving mail from so many Twin Peaks fans! 

Sini Gandhi
giron@husc9.harvard.edu

In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au>
cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
> >Does anyone know the answer to this question ?

Lucy.  There's simply no other plausible explanation.

                        -bananafishbones

In article <1991Mar7.120031.22671@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, tom@mims-iris.waterloo.edu (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>> > > the show is already an enormous hit in England, Italy, and spain.
> > 
> > It's also popular in Finland.  How many other countries is it being shown in?
> > 

We're up to episode 7 in Australia - it's just started :-)  Already there
is a cult beginning.  Imagine our dismay to find that it may be
cancelled.....


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Well, I for one have had enough of reading about horses, wood puns,
ads, Neilsons, etc., etc.

How about a questions as to the show (remember it?).

I noticed something upon re-viewing 2011 (or somewhere around there.)
It was the one after the Major disappears.  Coop gets in a discussion
about the Major, and the subject of the White Lodge comes up, upon
which Hawk shudders.  He explains the White Lodge (the house of the
perfect self, or something or other), and then the Black Lodge (the
house of the shadow self; here one must pass to get to the White Lodge,
but must face, with absolute courage, his shadow self).  Please correct
me if my poor memory slants the interpretation.  Anyway, upon hearing
this I thought (of course) of the last thing the Major said (2013/4 ?),
"Meanwhile, Gentlemen, I'll be in the Shadows."

What is the Major up to?  Is he attempting to pass through the Black
Lodge?  He mentioned his dissappointment with his co-workers, citing their
lack of integrity.  Maybe he wants to conquer this, or just experience it.

Hey, this may have been mentioned already.  I know I've passed many
a article in my attempt to avoid the above mentioned tangents.  If I
also passed up this, discussed previously, tell me to shut up, and I'll do my
own theorizing.  Otherwise, I'd be interested to know what y'all think.

sj

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/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / eno@buhub.bradley.edu (Denise Gorka) /  3:58 am  Mar 14, 1991 /

> >    The episode of Anything But Love was on tonight.  Jamie-Lee
> > Curtis played Audrey and she tied a coffee stir into a pretzel.
> > She also did a paper clip into an outline of the U.S. AND she stuffed
> > some paper in her mouth and pulled out a tiny swan in a couple
> > seconds.  It was very amusing....music and everything!

Was this the parody broadcast on 1/26? I NEED to know.

Richard
"Tincture of vicuna"

Here's my e-mail to Matt:

> >Hello Matt, here's the answer to "Who killed Laura Palmer":
> >
> >Lucy Moran (the sheriff's receptionist) did it in a fit of lesbian 
> >jealousy.
> >Kind of surprising, wasn't it?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Roar Larsen,
> >Trondheim, Norway.

In article <1991Mar15.011316.2662@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
#In article <27DF53A7.22387@orion.oac.uci.edu> dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
#>In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
#>#
#>#Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
#>#
#>#matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.
#>
#>Since Matt doesn't read this group should we all send different answers?  :-)
#
#very funny guys.....

Gee Matt, I thought you didn't read this group.  There you go and spoil
all our fun.  BTW, Laura Palmer isn't really dead, it's all in your
imagination.

Douglas Krause                     One yuppie can ruin your whole day.
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Welcome to Irvine, Yuppieland USA  BITNET: DJKrause@uci.edu

In article <1991Mar14.105333.1@wharton.upenn.edu>, millerl@wharton.upenn.edu (Loren J. Miller) writes:
> > In article <27DF53A7.22387@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
>> >> In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
>> >> #Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
>> >> #matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.
>> >> 
>> >> Since Matt doesn't read this group should we all send different answers?  :-)
> > 
> > Yes. Let's. I'll tell him Albert killed LP.

I told him Chet from 'Invitation to Love' killed Laura.

Hannu

> >In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au
(Matt (ftp) Crowd) w
> > #>#
> >#Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
> > #>#
> >#matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.
> > #>

Laura Palmer was, in actuality, killed by James and Donna.  It was one of those
crimes of passion that hormone crazed tv-kids do from time to time.  James and
Donna, inseaparable lovers and soul-mates that they are, added their own
personal touches to the grisly deed that marked it as their unmistakable
handiwork.

It is now estimated that the actual murder took place over the course of 4 weeks,
with James and Donna slowly torturing Laura Palmer by making her listen to the
protestations of love and angst that they made to each other.  Poor Laura was
subjected to daily doses of cutting self-pity, stinging stoicisms and brutal
displays of rampant James Dean wannabeeisms.  Finally, her mind hanging on the
hinges of sanity, Laura did the only thing she could do to stop the incessant
pain, she ended her life by tearing her self to pieces on the tailpipe of James'
'hog'.  At truly horrible way to go.  

Hand me a donut and a cup of joe.


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buchman@osf.org

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) /  7:04 pm  Mar 14, 1991 /

> > In article <7861@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) writes:
>> >>In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Does anyone know the answer to this question ?

> >I told him the Log Lady.  Send more (different) answers.

You bastards.

BOB.
"in a vicuna"

>>> >> > In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.
>>> >> > #Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
>>> >> > #matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.
>>> >> > 

I told him Lucy Moran did it.

Kevin

Hello to all the TP ( Twin  Peaks, that is) fans out there.
My name's Rob  Gougher, and I'm a film major at good ol' PS  of U.
Any way, a friend of mine  at Bucknell told  me about this neat  little group
of  fellow watchers and I finally  had to throw in my  lot.
So, if any body has any neat little tidbits, Lynchian, Peaksian, Whovian, Blake
sian or  otherwise, send 'em my  way.

For now, here's  something to think about:
         So  my good friend and  I are discussing the possibility of
Bob having  taken over Josie. If  nothing else, it would explain the c
ar wreck  seen at  the  end of  episode 16, right after  Bob  leaves Leland.
There is also the possibility that one of  Bob's spirit buddies  is  stalking c
ooper, possibly he possesses Windom  Earle.

As I  look  at these things, I realize that  you guys have  probably already  h
ashed through  them  - but I couldn't  get on and  just write  nothing
-now could I?

somebody  write please.

RG

In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
> >
> >Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
> >
> >matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.

did anyone tell him Leland did it?  I mean, talk about far fetched!!!

;-)

-- nate berggren | Do something you hate! Being nate@casbah.acns.nwu.edu| miserable builds character! ACNS Student Consultant | -Calvin Northwestern University |

A chaste hero fixated on doughnuts and tripping on
loose ends is nothing new, says Biancamaria Fontana.
He has been around for at least a century

KIN PEAKS

Is Twin Peaks a truly
post-modern work, as
some critics have ar-
gued? An interesting ex-
periment maybe but one
which exploits conventional
rather than literary and vi-
sual strategies. The director
has in fact (deliberately or
unwittingly) translated into
the language of cinema and
of the television soap a tradi-
tional genre which flour-
ished within European liter-
ary culture up to the
beginning of our centruy: the
feuilleton.

[To be continued...]

> >In article <JYM.91Feb28173731@remarque.berkeley.edu> jym@berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
> > 
> >It's either that or else Frost/Lynch themselves have a silly notion of
> >how a bad person should appear.
> > 
> >a.h.

The way I heard it, the guy we know as BOB was on the set (doing his
job...wardrobe, is it?) and Lynch saw him and said basically, "You...
Come here...You killed Laura Palmer,"  without having planned who would
actually play the part of the killer.

--Tony  (tony@uc780.umd.edu)

I think the snake/vampire/whatever (I didn't see it.) was played by Amanda
Donohue (sp?).

-Jeff Schwartz

A chaste hero fixated on doughnuts and tripping on
loose ends is nothing new, says Biancamaria Fontana.
He has been around for at least a century

KIN PEAKS

Is Twin Peaks a truly
post-modern work, as
some critics have ar-
gued? An interesting ex-
periment maybe but one
which exploits conventional
rather than literary and vi-
sual strategies. The director
has in fact (deliberately or
unwittingly) translated into
the language of cinema and
of the television soap a tradi-
tional genre which flour-
ished within European liter-
ary culture up to the
beginning of our century: the
feuilleton.

The analogy is not immedi-
ately apparent because we
tend to associate feuilletons
- interminable sagas pub-
lished in weekly instalments
by the popular press - with
a "period", generally 19th
century, Parisian slums and
aristocratic mansions, pirate
ships and buried treasures,
babies swapped in paupers'
hospitals, poisoned drinks,
gipsies and so on. Diners,
sheriffs and the FBI seem out
of place. But that's just his-
torical distortion.

Originally the writer of
feuilletons was someone who
would use absolutely any-
thing she could think of to
tantalise her readers, search-
ing for the modern, the ec-
centric and the exotic with-
out feeling, tied to any
particular background.

The basic plot of Twin
Peaks is a simple and rather
conventional one: a hero at-
tempts to unmask a crime,
punish its authors and vindi-
cate their innocent victims.
David Lynch's hero is Special
Agent Dale Cooper (Kyle
MacLachlan) dispatched to
investigate the horrific mur-
der of a local girl. Agent
Cooper is a knight sans peur
et sans reproche, immaculate
from his metal shinpads and
bullet-proof vest to the top of
his brilliantined hair with an
exagerated respect for his
duties and Federal regula-
tions. He is innocent, brave,
honest, generous, loyal,
punctillious, pedantic, prig-
gish and is moreover guided
in his quest for truth by the
assistance of superior forces.

He takes an obsessive in-
terest in trivial practical de-
tails and his untimely
remarks on black coffee and
cherry pie, uttered at the mo-
ments of greater dramatic
tension, are probably the
single most famous feature
of the serial (this obsessive
interest he shares in fact
with Dumas's Edmond
Dantes, who in the pages of
the Count of Monte Cristo en-
gages in tiresome compari-
sons between French and
Turkish, strong and weak,
hot and not-so-hot coffee).
Predicatbly, Cooper is chaste
and his notion of pleasure
runs to a comfortable bed
and a generous supply of
doughnuts.

[To be continued...66% to go]

Has anybody noticed that there is a book out on the story of the family
of the guy who played Starsky (of Starsky and Hutch fame) -- Paul Michael
Glaser -- that is co-authored by Laura Palmer?  The story is a grim one -
it relates the suffering of Paul's wife and their daughter and son, all
of whom have AIDS. Paul's wife contracted it via a blood transfusion when
their first daughter was born, and she passed the virus on to their
newborn through breast milk, and then again to their son a couple years
later before anyone knew she had the disease.  But I wonder who this
co-author is!

Brian Wood    "I've been ready for the realities of space travel since
               I was 9 years old."   -- From Star Trek, TNG "First Contact"

In article <7163@idunno.Princeton.EDU> bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) writes:
> >In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt (ftp) Crowd) writes:
>> >> [Who Killed Laura Palmer?]
>> >>Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
> >
> >Sheriff Harry S. Truman.  (David Lynch guessed wrong.)

No, it was Andy!

-----
Gordy

In article <2222@novavax.UUCP> brookshe@novavax.UUCP (leighton A. Brooks) writes:
>> >>
> >I thought I saw him while Ben was suffering from Generalitis
> >with his Indian headdress on...  i could be wrong.

The things I tell you will not be wrong...  you are right!  :-)

Janet
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I met an FBI agent the other day.  Told me they were hiring.

p.s.  RE:  Who killed Laura Palmer.  I said Hawk.

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

> >   ABC has decided to put Twin Peaks on again, but does anybody know
> >if (when/how) Global will be playing them?  Any information would be
> >greatly appreciated.

I think I've seen/heard that it will be on Global Wednesday nights (starting
on the 27th) at 9:00pm.  I believe it was posted to a.t.tp earlier by someone
who called Global about it.

Can anyone verify?

 I was just thumbing through these weeks "Comics Buyers Guide"
  and imagine my surprise to see a full page ad for Twin Peaks
collectors cards.  The ad says:

This spring, 12 million Twin Peaks viewers will be
searching for these cards.  Want to sell them?  Right
   now, Star Pics is offering dealers a one-time-only chance
  to get in on the action with "Twin Peaks Collectible
CardArt" (tm) sets.  This bizarre, fun, 76-card "tour of
  Twin Peaks" is an offbeat collection of images, excerpts
and never-before-revealed information about the award
winning show.  The set includes Character Profiles, Famous Twin Peaks Images, Quotes, Local Sites and Trivia Cards.  And guess what?  Some sets will contain randomly inserted, autographed cards.

As Agent Cooper might say, this set's "Damn good!" 
To support dealers, Star Pics will run ads in both hobbyand non-hobby publications along with press releases to radio, TV and magazines.  We'll let customers know where they can find their sets.  Dealers will also get plenty of Twin Peaks in-store display material to really pump sales.

Hurry.  This is a limited, numbered edition.  Inventories won't last long.  To order, call (313) 851-PICS.

Above the text of the ad are two cards, one of Agent Cooper and one
of Laura Palmer.  It looks like they used a tree bark design for
backgrounds.  Since the ad is directed to retailers it is unlikely
that individual sales can be transacted with the company, but hopefully this will help generate more interest and viewers.


bye
asbestos

In article <RGB.91Mar13121148@bigsleep.engin.umich.edu> rgb@engin.umich.edu (Rod G. Bogart) writes:
> >Look's like Josie's death has made for a startling oak-Asian.
> >
> >RGB

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been in more...by the way, if you haven't seen _The Hidden_, do so ASAP!
Great flick!

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alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes:
>> > > __ For a supernatural being, BOB is really rather ordinary, and
>> > >  _ a big part of the menace he represents shows in that fact.
>> > >    Indeed, his host Leland (what with the white hair and incessant
>> > >    big band music) was quirkier than BOB.
>> > >    <_Jym_>
>> > >
> > 
> > I couldn't agree with you more.  Bob looks like an old hippy who didn't
> > change with the times, or like a drifter.  He definitely *does not* look 
> > like the embodiment of evil.  He just looks like the kind of guy our
> > parents would be afraid to pick up hitch-hiking, even in poring rain!

EXCUSE ME???? BOB, at least to me, is the most horrifying-looking person 
I can think of... 

That reminds me - I had a dream the other night that Frank Silva, the 
actor who plays BOB, did not really exist. I was on the TP set, watching 
the shooting of an epsiode with BOB, and it turned out that BOB was 
really played by David Lynch... some symbolic type thing going on in the 
show that my subconscious is picking up, and the rest of me is not?

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If they knew anything about career                     18004 146th Ave NE
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eck@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Hangnail Whipperwill) writes:

> > 
> >    Does anyone have a filmography for Kyle MacLachlan?  I know he was in
> > _The Doors_, _Dune_, _Blue Velvet_ and _The Hidden_, but I'm sure he's
> > been in more...by the way, if you haven't seen _The Hidden_, do so ASAP!
> > Great flick!
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > |Brian Eck                      | "Cock-rock metal's like a bad laxative |
> > |eck@eniac.seas.upenn.edu       |  It just don't move me, ya know?" -DKs |
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------


Nope, sorry to disappoint you, that's all the guy's been in, unless 
you've been in Seattle for a few years and have caught a few of the plays 
he was in (which, unfortunately, I did not)...

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If they knew anything about career                     18004 146th Ave NE
moves, why would they be guidance                    Woodinville, WA 98072  
counselors?" - Happy Harry Hard-On, "Pump Up the Volume"
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In article <39205@netnews.upenn.edu>, eck@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Hangnail Whipperwill) writes...

} Does anyone have a filmography for Kyle MacLachlan?  I know he was in
} _The Doors_, _Dune_, _Blue Velvet_ and _The Hidden_, but I'm sure he's
} been in more...

Actually, he hasn't. DUNE was his first film, by the way. At any rate,
he *has* been in TWIN PEAKS, of course.

-- "If I haven't explained Jerry, it's because he really can't be explained." -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM or ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian

Did anyone catch the parody of Twin Peaks on "Anything But Love"?  After 
finally consumating their extended-for-sitcom-purposes courtship, the two
main characters in the show, Hannah and Marty, are contemplating how their
coworkers are going to react to their new status as a couple.  They fantasize
possible office scenes ( a 30's movie newsroom, a "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"
scene, a high society romantic comedy ).  After these, they agree that it
will be more like a soap opera, to which Marty adds "and of course it has 
to be a weird soap opera"...

Fade to a newswoom scene with various TP characters.  The best part was a
puton of the Audrey and the cherry stem scene.  Audrey, played by Hannah
(played by Jamie Lee Curtis) puts a coffee stirrer in her mouth, and after
a close up of much oral grimacing, pulls out a pretzled coffee stirrer.  
Next (sorry I can't remember all the details) a paper clip is inserted, and
comes out shaped like a map of the US. Finally, a piece of paper is inserted,
which emergers as a little origami swan.

If you can locate a tape of the show, I highly recommend it.  

The show itself is also quite good.  It's another example of a good show that
wasn't a major ratings grabber that gets pulled for extended periods and put
back in a new location.  The show has a great cast, is well written, and is
reminiscent of the early "Cheers".  Check it out!

jimbo

In article <21166@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:

> >} Does anyone have a filmography for Kyle MacLachlan?  I know he was in
> >} _The Doors_, _Dune_, _Blue Velvet_ and _The Hidden_, but I'm sure he's
> >} been in more...

> >Actually, he hasn't. DUNE was his first film, by the way. At any rate,
> >he *has* been in TWIN PEAKS, of course.

Sure he has.  He was in some movie just this year (or the end of 1990,
mor like) with Shelley Long.  I remember seeing the ads for it--it
showed Kyle in a jacket with the sleeves pulled up to his elbows,
mid-eighties Don Johnson-style.  I can't remember the title, but it
had something to do with Shelley's love life and Kyle was one of her
suitors or something.  It looked dreadful.  Surely someone from this
newsgroup was enough of a fanatic to brave it, though: what was the
title? 

--
 Rod Johnson  *  rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu  *  (313) 650 2315 

  "House, bridge, well, gate, jug, olive tree, window"  --Rilke

In article <21166@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
#
#Actually, he hasn't. DUNE was his first film, by the way.

He SHOULD have been in Dick Tracy, instead of Warren Bea(s)t(l)y !

Sture

**SPOILERS ABOUND FOR THOSE HERE AND IN EUROPE**

Background: This list was first done as a tongue-in-cheek
joke by yours truly, but is now a "canonical" listing of
the legitimate and not-so-legitimate things that occur
frequently in the "^Twin Peaks^" TV show.

Also available: "The 12 Days of Christmas" a la "^Twin Peaks^"
 
Well, here's the sixth version of this list.
Special thanks go to the following people for contributing:
  Linda Birmingham (twice), Scott L. Vandenberg,
  Ann Hodgins, Jeanne Stapleton, Bradford H. Needham,
  Palmer Davis, "Arachnid", Greg M. Brown, Eric Daniels,
  Ron Sires, Bill Downing, "Scratch", "Rocky" (twice),
  Kathleen Hunt (twice), Bob Hettmansperger, John Locke, and
  Nadir Ahmed.


Symbols/motifs in the "^Twin Peaks^" Universe
(last updated 3/16/91, 3/4/91, 2/28/91, 2/19/91, 2/8/91, and
 whenever before that in January):

  1.  Sex, comedy, violence, and rock 'n roll

  2.  Ceiling fan in the Palmer home (connected to Laura's
death?)

  3.  Traffic light

  4.  "Invitation to Love" soap opera

  5.  Waterfall outside The Great Northern Inn

  6.  Sprinkler on the Sheriff's Office ceiling

  7.  Coffee, donuts, and cherry pie

  8.  Owls

  9.  Psychic visions

 10.  Trees/forest/wood:
Forest in/outside Twin Peaks,
Log Lady's log,
Bookhouse Boys patch, and
Doorknob on drawer in The Great Northern Inn

 11.  Dead people:
Laura Palmer,
Bernard/Jacque/Jean Renault,
Emory Bates,
Blackie O'Reilly,
Madeleine Ferguson,
Leland Palmer,
Eric Powell (dead drifter),
Jeffery Marsh,
Malcolm Sloan (Evelyn Marsh's lover),
Jonathan Kumagi (assistant to Thomas Eckhardt),
Thomas Eckhardt, and
Josie Packard

Also the Log Lady's husband (see #15), and
little Nicky's parents.

 12.  Full/half moon

 13.  Glasses/sunglasses:
Doctor Jacoby,
Madeleine Ferguson,
Laura Palmer/Donna Hayward, 
        Evelyn Marsh, and
Thomas Eckhardt

 14.  Cigarette/cigar smoking:
Benjamin Horne,
Shelley/Leo Johnson,
Bobby Briggs,
Audrew Horne,
Josie Packard,
Donna Hayward, and
Evelyn Marsh

 15.  Fire:
Log Lady's husband died in a forest fire,
"Fire, walk with me",
"Fire is the devil, hiding like a coward in the
  smoke" (Log Lady),
The scorched smell that Doctor Jacoby and Madeleine
  Ferguson both smelled when BOB was around,
Packard sawmill fire, and
The fire from the fireplace at the Great Northern
          lobby reflecting off Thomas Eckhardt's sunglasses 

 16.  White horse:
Laura Palmer's pony (Troy) that was seen by Sarah
  Palmer right before BOB killed Madeleine Ferguson,
"Genearl" Benjamin Horne's Civil War piece(s), and
"General" Benjamin Horne's stuffed horse "Traveller"

 17.  Light and dark:
White/Black Lodge, and
Chess pieces

 18.  Light fixtures/lightbulbs on the ceiling:
Sheriff's Office light when Eric Powell is found, and
Leo/Shelley Johnson's ceiling light when Leo awakens

 19.  Animal heads:
Mounted deer head in the Sheriff's office with the
  sign "The Buck Stopped Here"
Deer head that's on the table when Sheriff Truman
  and Agent Cooper bring in Laura Palmer's safety
  deposit box,
The assortment of trophys in the den (?) in
  Pete/Catherine Martell's home, 
The deer (?) head next to Eric Powell, and
The cooked pig head that Josie serves as the main
  course in the dinner to Catherine Martell and
    Thomas Eckhardt

 20.  Hank's domino

 21.  Chess/chess pieces

 22.  Twins/opposites:
Agent Cooper/Windham Earle,
Laura Palmer/Madeleine Ferguson,
Bernard/Jacque Renault, 
Mike/Bob:
  Mike Nelson (Nadine Hurley's crush)/Bobby Briggs,
  Phillip Michael Gerard (the OAM)/Bob Lydecker (vet),
  Mike (spirit inside OAM)/Killer BOB)
The Giant/Little Man from Another Place

 23.  "Family trios" (warped versions on Daddy/Mommy/Child): 
Bobby Briggs/Shelley Johnson/Leo Johnson,
(Dick Tremayne/Andy)/Lucy Moran/Nicky,
"Big" Ed Hurley/Norma Jennings/Nadine
  Hurley,
Bobby Briggs/Audrey Horne/Benjamin Horne,
Malcolm/Evelyn Marsh/James Hurley, and
(Pete Martell/Andrew Packard/Thomas Eckhardt)/
  Catherine Martell/Josie Packard

 24.  The color brown

 25.  Lookalikes (characters who physically resemble each
      other):
Benjamin Horne/Leland Palmer,
Audrey Horne/Donna Hayward, and
Laura Palmer/Madeleine Ferguson

 26.  Inverse radiation symbol:
Major Brigg's neck

 27.  Red curtains in various dreams/visions/places:
The Roadhouse stage,
Agent Cooper's first dream sequence with the Little
  Man from Another Place, and
Jacque Renault's log cabin

 28.  Furry animals:
The llama,
Josie Packard's vicuua coat (well, kind of >=)), and
The white animal (fox?) in Benjamin Horne's office
--
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I finally figured out what ABC can do to keep TP's ratings high enough
to stay on the air: You know how ridiculously high ratings they have
gotten with _Amercia's Funniest Home Videos_ and now _America's Funniest
People_ ? Well, they could replace the short clips of _Invitation to Love_
with some of these stupid home video clips, and suddenly TP would be in the 
top 10 shows!  :-)
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>> >>} Does anyone have a filmography for Kyle MacLachlan?  I know he was in
>> >>} _The Doors_, _Dune_, _Blue Velvet_ and _The Hidden_, but I'm sure he's
>> >>} been in more...

>> >>Actually, he hasn't. DUNE was his first film, by the way. At any rate,
>> >>he *has* been in TWIN PEAKS, of course.

> >Sure he has.  He was in some movie just this year (or the end of 1990,
> >mor like) with Shelley Long.  I remember seeing the ads for it--it
> >showed Kyle in a jacket with the sleeves pulled up to his elbows,
> >mid-eighties Don Johnson-style.  I can't remember the title, but it
> >had something to do with Shelley's love life and Kyle was one of her
> >suitors or something.  It looked dreadful.  Surely someone from this
> >newsgroup was enough of a fanatic to brave it, though: what was the
> >title? 

The name of the movie was DON'T TELL HER ITS ME. It was originally
titled _The Boyfriend School_.

No, I haven't seen it. I'm not even sure it was released in Los
Angeles. I do remember seeing a poster for it at the Beverly
Center in Hollywood in the summer of 1990. If I recall correctly,
Steve Guttenberg was also in it.

Twin Peaks' own Madchen Amick was also in it. She played MacLachlan's
girlfriend. I imagine we'll be seeing it on video soon.

Anyway, here is the complete filmography of Kyle Machlachlan, from my
TP actors list that I posted a few weeks ago:

#MacLachlan, KyleBlue Velvet
#Don't Tell Her It's Me (aka The Boyfriend School)
#Doors, The
#Dune
#Hidden, The

Of course, he's also been in several plays (in Seattle and NY), including
an aborted appearance in _Love Letters_ with Lara Flynn Boyle in L.A.
-- David E. Coufal coufal@owl.caltech.edu SAVE TWIN PEAKS write: Robert Iger, President of ABC Entertainment 2040 Avenue of the Stars, Century City, CA 90067

I must write to Sherilynn Fenn IMMEDIATELY.
This is of great personal importance. I am not kidding.
Surely SOMEONE out there must have an address for her,
such as the Twin Peaks production company, her agent, or 
even her home address and telephone number.

Please! Somebody! If you have any knowledge on this, 
do a Good Deed and help me.
-- Brian Ross. I shall observe the tenets of karate. bjr@aipna.ed.ac.uk

bjr@stoat.ed.ac.uk (Brian J Ross) writes:
> >I must write to Sherilynn Fenn IMMEDIATELY.
> >This is of great personal importance. I am not kidding.
> >Surely SOMEONE out there must have an address for her,
> >such as the Twin Peaks production company, her agent, or 
> >even her home address and telephone number.

> >Please! Somebody! If you have any knowledge on this, 
> >do a Good Deed and help me.
> >-- 
> >Brian Ross.           I shall observe the tenets of karate.
> >bjr@aipna.ed.ac.uk

Does this perhaps have something to do with an upcoming martial arts
movie which she will be co-starring in?
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Might you be referring, at least in part, to FANTOMAS, which spawned something
like 35 volumes in the early 1900's, and is now be printed in the US?

I recently came across a neat little tidbit that may or maynot be in Lynch/Fros
t's bag of tricks. The Kiowa Indians believed that when people died they ceased
 to exist - except for the wicked ones - their spirit's would inhabit the body
of an owl.

          Neat huh?

                                                     rg

In article <91449@sgi.sgi.com> sjohnson@texas.vlsi.sgi.com (Scott Johnson) writes:

> >"Meanwhile, Gentlemen, I'll be in the Shadows."
> >
> >What is the Major up to?  Is he attempting to pass through the Black
> >Lodge?  He mentioned his dissappointment with his co-workers, citing their
> >lack of integrity.  Maybe he wants to conquer this, or just experience it.

My impression was that he meant he was going to keep a low profile.  If his
co-workers are aware that he's not happy with their motives, it would be a
sensible thing to do.  In fact I'd expect them to be upset that he
mentioned anything at all about it to Truman and Coop...

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In article <johnc.669259381@s.ms.uky.edu> johnc@ms.uky.edu (John Coppinger) writes:
> >Does this perhaps have something to do with an upcoming martial arts
> >movie which she will be co-starring in?                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
                        

Please tell me you're joking!!

-Matt

I just saw Alfred Hitchcock's original "Psycho" and
noticed several parallels to TP.

(Decades old Psycho Spoilers follow???)


ANYWAY:

Laura was wrapped in plastic just as was the girl in Psycho

The $10,000 in drug money of Laura's and the $40,000 the the Psycho
woman stole.

The multiple stab wounds in LP and the girl in Psycho.

The resemblence of Norman/Mother to Leland/BOB

The stuffed OWL and Minah Bird? in the parlor at the Bates.

The resemblence of Bates Motel to the Cabin in the woods where
Laura was with the guys.

The Secret Diary of LP and the girl's Registration signature at the
Bates Motel.

The resemblence of the James to the boyfriend in Psycho.

Both dead bodies sumerged.

The fact that the Psycho girl looked just like her sister compared
to Laura and Maddy.

The fact that there was limited violence in this small town when
talking to the deputy sheriff.


-------------------------
It's like Lynch/Frost/et al took Psycho town and filled in all
of the gaps.  Hmmmm....

-Matt

In article <1991Mar17.113122@stoat.ed.ac.uk> bjr@stoat.ed.ac.uk (Brian J Ross) writes:
> >I must write to Sherilynn Fenn IMMEDIATELY.
> >This is of great personal importance. I am not kidding.
> >Surely SOMEONE out there must have an address for her,
> >such as the Twin Peaks production company, her agent, or 
> >even her home address and telephone number.

I suppose you're going to claim that Sheri is having your baby.

Are you the nut from Scotland she says has been harassing her?  The one
who wanted to smear haggis all over her naked body and then ... I can't
repeat it, it's so disgusting!  Sheri almost choked on her cherry stem
when she heard that.  (Yeah, she really can do that.)  You can just write
to her in care of Lynch-Frost Productions, I'm not about to give out her
home address or telephone number to weirdos and creeps, which seem to
compose the majority of readers of this newsgroup.  Why don't you go
bother Lara Flynn Boyle, nobody even likes her character, anyway!
--
Roger "Fenn" (not yet my legal name)
University of Illinois
Urbana, IL  61801  USA

This message is for those of you who, like me, want to see
Twin Peaks continued for a third season.


Almost definitely, Bob Iger and ABC will use the next six episodes on
Thursday nights to test TP's viewership.  If it fails in the ratings,
Peaks is finished (although it's hard to tell what they would consider
"good" ratings against Cheers.)

In light of this, the more people who watch these episodes, especially
on 3/28, the better the chances of seeing Peaks next year.

What I have done is to make a sign "advertising" the return of Twin
Peaks.  Next Sunday or Monday, I am going to place photocopies of this
sign on bulletin boards all around our campus (I'm waiting until then
because signs here always get torn down within a week or so)
suggesting that people give Twin Peaks a try instead of watching
Cheers that night, as they usually do.

I urge everyone who reads this to do this on their campuses or
wherever they can.  It doesn't take very long at all.  And even if
this gets only a few more viewers for Peaks, every little bit helps
(and right now I'd say the show needs all the help it can get.  I
personally don't think it has too much of a chance the way it is.)

Just get a marker and paper, make a sign, photocopy it, and put it on
as many bulletin boards as you can. It WILL help, at least a little.
Mine says:
              DON'T WATCH ANOTHER BORING CHEERS RE-RUN
              THIS THURSDAY NIGHT!  WATCH TWIN PEAKS ON
              ABC.  GIVE IT A CHANCE; YOU MAY BE SURPRISED

but you might want to add something about how there will be a prologue
explaining what's happened so far so that people won't be lost when
they tune in.


Remember, if you really want to save Peaks, viewership is the only
way, and every little bit helps!



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[Finally, the full text.]

A chaste hero fixated on doughnuts and tripping on
loose ends is nothing new, says Biancamaria Fontana.
He has been around for at least a century

KIN PEAKS

Is Twin Peaks a truly
post-modern work, as
some critics have ar-
gued? An interesting ex-
periment maybe but one
which exploits conventional
rather than literary and vi-
sual strategies. The director
has in fact (deliberately or
unwittingly) translated into
the language of cinema and
of the television soap a tradi-
tional genre which flour-
ished within European liter-
ary culture up to the
beginning of our century: the
feuilleton.

   The analogy is not immedi-
ately apparent because we
tend to associate feuilletons
- interminable sagas pub-
lished in weekly instalments
by the popular press - with
a "period", generally 19th
century, Parisian slums and
aristocratic mansions, pirate
ships and buried treasures,
babies swapped in paupers'
hospitals, poisoned drinks,
gipsies and so on. Diners,
sheriffs and the FBI seem out
of place. But that's just his-
torical distortion.

   Originally the writer of
feuilletons was someone who
would use absolutely any-
thing she could think of to
tantalise her readers, search-
ing for the modern, the ec-
centric and the exotic with-
out feeling, tied to any
particular background.

   The basic plot of Twin
Peaks is a simple and rather
conventional one: a hero at-
tempts to unmask a crime,
punish its authors and vindi-
cate their innocent victims.
David Lynch's hero is Special
Agent Dale Cooper (Kyle
MacLachlan) dispatched to
investigate the horrific mur-
der of a local girl. Agent
Cooper is a knight sans peur
et sans reproche, immaculate
from his metal shinpads and
bullet-proof vest to the top of
his brilliantined hair with an
exagerated respect for his
duties and Federal regula-
tions. He is innocent, brave,
honest, generous, loyal,
punctillious, pedantic, prig-
gish and is moreover guided
in his quest for truth by the
assistance of superior forces.

   He takes an obsessive in-
terest in trivial practical de-
tails and his untimely
remarks on black coffee and
cherry pie, uttered at the mo-
ments of greater dramatic
tension, are probably the
single most famous feature
of the serial (this obsessive
interest he shares in fact
with Dumas's Edmond
Dantes, who in the pages of
the Count of Monte Cristo en-
gages in tiresome compari-
sons between French and
Turkish, strong and weak,
hot and not-so-hot coffee).
Predicatbly, Cooper is chaste
and his notion of pleasure
runs to a comfortable bed
and a generous supply of
doughnuts.

   In Eugene Sue's Les Mys-
teres de Paris (probably the
most famous of all 19th-cen-
tury popular narratives) the
hero, Rodolphe Prince of
Gerolstein, fights a private
war against crime; he is
superhumanly clever, rich
and powerful, and secretly
manipulates the othe char-
acters. American democratic
sensibility would not allow
this and the fedral agent's
relations to his assistants
and to his enemies remain
rigorously egalitarian.

   The object of Cooper's
quest, the murder victim,
Laura Palmer (Sheryl Lee), is
an "innocent" girl who (like
America) has been led by ex-
istential restlessness and
sexual curiosity into corrup-
tion. That sexual corruption
for a woman is a terminal sin
is one of the established
truths of the genre: in the
Mysteres de Paris, Gerol-
stein finally recognises in
the child prostitute Fleur-
Marie his own lost daughter.
She is restored to her
princely status, but since she
has been "tainted", is sen-
tenced to a premature death.

   Blonde, soft, sensual, smil-
ing vacantly from the picture
on her parents' mantelpiece,
the ambiguous Laura forms a
sharp contrast with Cooper's
sleek stiffness and self-con-
tented moralism.

   Laura is a girl "full of se-
crets" and secrets, Cooper
warns us, are dangerous. The
existence of mysteries and
their progressive unveiling
was a major source of sur-
prise and gratification for
the reader of the 18th and 19th
century popular narratives.
In the world of the feuilleton,
goodness is equivalent to
transparency: everywhere
deceit and secrecy serve the
cause of evil.

   In Twin Peaks mysteries
take generally the form of
cryptic and ambiguous
phrases, and Cooper's inves-
tigation consists largely in
decodig verbal clues, in
solving a series of "riddles"
("The owls are not what they
seem" he murmurs, struck
by a sudden illumination, as
D'Artagnan cries "C'est lui!,
Lui, cet homme!" every time
he recognises in a passing
stranger the Cardinal's spy
Rochefort). Reviewers have
remarked on the unusual
length to which Lynch car-
ries his intrigue, and have
suggested that the endlessly
delayed solution of the mur-
der, and the breaking down
of the story into innumera-
ble sub-plots illustrate the
post-modern experience of
an ever-vanishing narrative.

   Yet Lynch's approach
would have hardly surprised
the writers of the last cen-
tury, who produced their
novels week by week and
resorted to all kinds of tricks
to stimulate or lull indefi-
nitely their readers' atten-
tion, especially when the for-
mula proved successful.

   Television and cinema
have accustomed us to short
narratives and a short span
of attention. They also seem
to endorse a fairly rigid dis-
tinction of genres; social
comedy, thriller, historical
drama, science fiction, hor-
ror, fantasy.

   Above all Lynch has
revived a taste for the eccen-
tric and the bizarre. In a
rather hysterical but deter-
mined attempt to break
through the legions of beau-
tiful, young, fit, smiling
bodies which populate the
television screen, Lynch
(who made his international
debut directing The Elephant
Man) has resorted to dwarfs,
giants, women with a patch
on one eye, men with one
arm, talking birds, people
whose hair turns white over-
night. These images would
have been perfectly at home
in many respectable 18th and
19th century works, where
raving insanity, disfigure-
ments and mutilations were
a matter of course.

   Inside the television screen
there is a television screen.
Throughout the story, the in-
habitants of Twin Peaks are
shown watching the episode
of a series called Invitation
To Love. When the Sheriff 
walks into his office and asks
his secretary whay has hap-
pened she replies by updat-
ing him on the plot of the
soap oblivious to a series of
"real" dramatic events
which have occurred in his
absence.

   Lynch's trick, if not origi-
nal is amusing: but the joke
is on us. The dream of post-
modernist critics, the ever-
vaishing-plot, had already
seduced our great-grand-
mothers. There is no way out
of the feuilleton: we are still
trapped inside it and likely
to remain there for a long,
long time.

[The Guardian, March 1991]

Amanda Donohue (sp?) was in The Liar of the White Worm. She's the one who plays
the English lawyer in LA Law.

Richard.

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / tony@uc780.umd.edu /  4:55 pm  Mar 15, 1991 /

> > The way I heard it, the guy we know as BOB was on the set (doing his
> > job...wardrobe, is it?) and Lynch saw him and said basically, "You...
> > Come here...You killed Laura Palmer,"  without having planned who would
> > actually play the part of the killer.

The way I heard it, Lynch was pissed off with the guy for dressing Laura
in such dowdy clothes (remember the video of the picnic?) - he didn't
literally mean "you KILLED Laura".

Richard.

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / RAG112@psuvm.psu.edu /  2:49 pm  Mar 15, 1991 /

> >          So  my good friend and  I are discussing the possibility of
> > Bob having  taken over Josie. If  nothing else, it would explain the c
> > ar wreck  seen at  the  end of  episode 16, right after  Bob  leaves Leland.
> > There is also the possibility that one of  Bob's spirit buddies  is  stalking
> > cooper, possibly he possesses Windom  Earle.

BOB is  in your    space     bar.

In article <21166@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >In article <39205@netnews.upenn.edu>, eck@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Hangnail Whipperwill) writes...
> >
> >} Does anyone have a filmography for Kyle MacLachlan?  I know he was in
> >} _The Doors_, _Dune_, _Blue Velvet_ and _The Hidden_, but I'm sure he's
> >} been in more...
> >
> >Actually, he hasn't. DUNE was his first film, by the way. At any rate,
> >he *has* been in TWIN PEAKS, of course.
> >
According to the "Actor's List" regularly posted on Rec.arts.movies,
MacLachlan was apparently in THE RIVER'S EDGE and one or two other bit
roles.


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#In article <johnc.669259381@s.ms.uky.edu> johnc@ms.uky.edu (John 
Coppinger) writes:
#>Does this perhaps have something to do with an upcoming martial arts
#>movie which she will be co-starring in?                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
                        

#Please tell me you're joking!!

No joke!  I was just talking to a friend in LA the other night, and he 
told me that his former kung fu master in San Diego is going to be in this 
flick as well--with Ms. Fenn and Brian Dennehy.  I believe he said they're 
just about to start shooting.  Sorry about that!

#-Matt

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