Season 2, Episode 16: The Condemned Woman — February 16–March 27, 1991

In a previous article, rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) says:

> >In article <21166@shlump.nac.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Cisco's Buddy) writes:
> >
>> >>} Does anyone have a filmography for Kyle MacLachlan?  I know he was in
>> >>} _The Doors_, _Dune_, _Blue Velvet_ and _The Hidden_, but I'm sure he's
>> >>} been in more...
> >
> >Sure he has.  He was in some movie just this year (or the end of 1990,
> >mor like) with Shelley Long.  I remember seeing the ads for it--it
> >showed Kyle in a jacket with the sleeves pulled up to his elbows,
> >mid-eighties Don Johnson-style.  I can't remember the title, but it
> >had something to do with Shelley's love life and Kyle was one of her
> >suitors or something.  It looked dreadful.  Surely someone from this
> >newsgroup was enough of a fanatic to brave it, though: what was the
> >title? 
> >

The movie was called "Don't Tell Her It's Me" and also starred Steve
Guttenberg and Jamie Gertz. It was advertised in Cleveland for a very
short time. We planned to see it, but it disappeared from the screens
before we had a chance.

-- -------------------------------------------- Denise M. Fischer (dmf2) Network Information Coordinator, INS Case Western Reserve University

He also did some TV movie a while back, something wherein he played a 
priest, if I'm not much mistaken.  Can't remember the name, unfortunately.

MVB
"A woman came up to me and said, 'I'd like to poison your mind/With wrong 
ideas that appeal to you, though I am not unkind.' "--TMBG
Disclaimer:  Homey don't play dat.

 >  I called Global TV (1-800-387-8001 from the yellow pages) and they
 >  said Twin Peaks will return Wednesday March 27 at 9pm. All six episodes
 >  will be broadcast in that slot.

O woe. We in the USA are about to learn what it's like in the third
world. Just watch. All the Canadians will post summaries and kick off
in-depth discussions starting Wednesday night! And they'll all forget
to use spoiler warnings! They'll be unable to figure out how to insert
formfeeds using their favorite editors! We'll be tearing our hair...

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Keith Dawson   <dawson@epps.kodak.com>    voice=508-670-4025    fax=508-670-4033
Atex Advanced Publishing Sys., 165 Lexington Rd. (400/165L), Billerica, MA 01821
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  ...maybe it's the third world, maybe it's his first time around...

I've noticed many people posting about an address we can write to, to keep
twin-peaks on the air. Could someone please re-post it? Our software kills
articles after they are a few days old, so I can't review all the old
postings.

Thanks in advance,

Douglas

mvb@eagle.mit.edu (Mary V. Burke) writes:

> >No joke!  I was just talking to a friend in LA the other night, and he 
> >told me that his former kung fu master in San Diego is going to be in this 
> >flick as well--with Ms. Fenn and Brian Dennehy.  I believe he said they're 
> >just about to start shooting.  Sorry about that!

> >MVB

Well, the movie's star and writer lives here in Lexington.  It was originally
supposed to co-star Kim Delaney, but she was replaced by Sherilyn.  My
understanding is that it will be a very different movie from a
Seagal/Norris/Speakman-type beat-em-up.  Should be interesting to anyone
intrigued by Eastern philosophy.
-- -- John Coppinger "You'll find that your left cuff link -- -- University of Kentucky will be communicating with your right -- -- johnc@s.ms.uky.edu cuff link via satellite" -- -- johnc@graphlab.cc.uky.edu [NeXT] -- Nicholas Negroponte --

In article <johnc.669332391@s.ms.uky.edu> johnc@ms.uky.edu (John Coppinger) writes:
> >Well, the movie's star and writer lives here in Lexington.  It was originally
> >supposed to co-star Kim Delaney, but she was replaced by Sherilyn.  My
> >understanding is that it will be a very different movie from a
> >Seagal/Norris/Speakman-type beat-em-up.  Should be interesting to anyone
> >intrigued by Eastern philosophy.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 Oh, so Coop will like it.

 -Matt
 .
 .
 .
 :wq

> >In article <johnc.669259381@s.ms.uky.edu> johnc@ms.uky.edu (John 
> >Coppinger) writes:
>> >>Does this perhaps have something to do with an upcoming martial arts
>> >>movie which she will be co-starring in?                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Maybe that was a "marital arts" movie?  (Hey, most of us saw TMJ.)

-jeremy

I read in a magazine recently that one of the main sources of food   
of the Owl (I forget exactly what kind of owl but I looked like the 
ones we always see in Twin Peaks) is the pine weasel, the animal Ben 
Horne wants to raise.  Interesting huh?

Gian Di Loreto (UR)

> >Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
> >
> >matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.

Laura was killed by Audrey Horne's supposedly retarded brother, Johnny
Horne.  We found out that the killer lived at the Great Northern, which Johnny
does.  It turns out that Johnny's soul was easily possessed by the evil
entity Bob, because he is under sedation, supposedly because he is retarded.
However, it turns out that he was not retarded after all, but drugged
throughout his childhood by Dr. Jacoby to appear retarded, so that he could
live out his sexual fantasies with the boy, whom he fell in love with when
deilvering him.

     *** SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT REAL EPISODE (ON 3/28) ***
























Within the next couple of episodes, Cooper will fall in love (probably
with Norma's sister.)

Also: Cooper, Major Briggs, & the Log Lady will meet to compare notes.
This should be interesting.



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un040377@wvnvms.wvnet.edu   |  know the world's address." - TMBG
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In article <1991Mar18.152517.29714@aucs.AcadiaU.ca>, 850117m@aucs.AcadiaU.ca (Scott Marshall) writes...

} According to the "Actor's List" regularly posted on Rec.arts.movies,
} MacLachlan was apparently in THE RIVER'S EDGE and one or two other bit
} roles.

Well, I'd like to know where the hell he is in RIVER'S EDGE. I've watched
that film a few times, and I've never spotted him.

-- "If I haven't explained Jerry, it's because he really can't be explained." -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM or ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian

Twin Peaks In Australia

In Australia TP is being shown on Tuesday nights at 9:30, with no
competition to speak of. Last week we had the episode where the hotel
was full of Icelanders and Audrey appeared in Cooper's bed. I tape
every episode so I can skip through the ads.

The show had a massive hype before it started, with "Who Killed Laura
Palmer" posters appearing all over Sydney. I was looking
forward to it immensely, as I have been a David Lynch fan for years
(Blue Velvet and esp. Wild at Heart). Actually I've found the show
a little disappointing after such a buildup, but it's early days
yet. It seems to be quite similar in theme to Blue Velvet, but a lot
less shocking.

About half the viewers in Australia already know 'whodunit' because
of lolly-brained prats who love to blurt it out at social occasions
just to prove how au fait they are. I've known since someone
let the BOB out of the bag in a seemingly innocuous article in
rec.arts.movies. But really the murder investigation is just a plot
device and knowing doesn't detract much from the enjoyment; isn't it true 
that Lynch/Frost at this stage didn't know themselves who the murderer
was going to be?

I really like reading this newsgroup - it gives tantalizing clues
and details of future episodes that make watching the current ones 
twice as fun. Keep it up!


paultje

--
--Paul Bakker   --   email: bakker@cs.uq.oz.au
--Depts. of Computer Science/ Psychology    ------
--University of Queensland  ----           --------
--New Holland   ---     -------------    ------------

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood) /  7:00 pm  Mar 15, 1991 /

> > their first daughter was born, and she passed the virus on to their
> > newborn through breast milk, and then again to their son a couple years
> > later before anyone knew she had the disease.  But I wonder who this
> > co-author is!

On a purely medical note, surely HIV can't be transmited thru' breast milk?

worried@tvb

In article <27E47201.4E5C@ibma0.cs.uiuc.edu> noe@sunc6.cs.uiuc.edu (Roger Noe) writes:
#Roger "Fenn" (not yet my legal name)

We "Noe".  :-)

In article <0F690672E02012B5@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> UN040377@WVNVAXA.WVNET.EDU writes:
> >     *** SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT REAL EPISODE (ON 3/28) ***

> >Within the next couple of episodes, Cooper will fall in love (probably
> >with Norma's sister.)
> >
> >Also: Cooper, Major Briggs, & the Log Lady will meet to compare notes.
> >This should be interesting.

HOW do you know this??

-Matt ??

In article <5142@atexnet.UUCP> dawson@epps.kodak.com (Keith Dawson) writes:
> >O woe. We in the USA are about to learn what it's like in the third
> >world. Just watch. All the Canadians will post summaries and kick off
> >in-depth discussions starting Wednesday night! And they'll all forget
> >to use spoiler warnings! They'll be unable to figure out how to insert
> >formfeeds using their favorite editors! We'll be tearing our hair...
> >Keith Dawson <dawson@epps.kodak.com> voice=508-670-4025 fax=508-670-4033

And sometimes we wonder, "where are all those fine diplomats coming from."

[19mar91] Here are three lists: 

  - (S) the addresses of ABC, the Twin Peaks production company, and others
    to whom you can write in an effort to save TP from cancellation

  - (L) the names and net addresses of those who maintain and publish to
    alt.tv.twin-peaks various compilations and lists of TP factoids,
    useful to the truly obsessed

  - (R) a guide to other TP goodies, available outside this newsgroup, the
    existence of which has been posted here

Changes and new listings are marked by #. Please send me any corrections
or additions.

There is now an anonymous FTP site for much of the material in list (L), 
and some of the material in list (R), thanks to Peter Asenstorfer 
#(peter@audrey.sait.edu.au) at the University of Sourh Australia. The site is:

#  audrey.sait.edu.au [130.220.16.88]   directory  /pub/twin-peaks 

Items currently in this archive are marked below by "ftp" in the margin.

-->Keith
dawson@epps.kodak.com

==================
Save TP Resources
==================

The following addresses, phone numbers, and other resources will prove useful
to those who want to write letters or otherwise express their opinions on
the hiatus / impending cancellation of TP.

NOTE: I have no opinion on whether a calm, rational letter works better than
an angry, threatening letter. I have no opinion on whether or not you should
write to the Fox Network, Lifetime, HBO, or the Marmot Channel. Some say you
should stress your demographics and/or consumer preferences, or write to 
sponsors. Let everyone follow his/her own conscience.

Lynch and Frost support (indeed, request) a letter-writing campaign. Write 
to Robert Iger (see S1); a fax number is provided.

See item S7 below, the COOP campaign headquarters, for access to letterhead
and so forth.

S1. Address of ABC President in charge of TP --
    Robert Iger - Entertainment President
    2040 Avenue of the Stars
    Century City, CA 90067
    Fax: 213-557-7160

S2. Address of TP production company --
    "Twin Peaks," Lynch-Frost Productions
    World Vision, 7700 Balboa Blvd., Van Nuys, CA 91406

S3. ABC Phone numbers for programming comments --
    New York      212-456-7477  (Network Programming)
  212-887-3900
    Los Angeles   213-557-7777  (General Information)

S4. Address of Billboard Magazine save-TP effort --
    Billboard Magazine, 1515 Broadway, New York, NY 10036
    Attention: S. Ojakli, Promotion & Publicity Director
    (America Online userid: Egg99)
    ("My magazine group covers the entertainment industry so I can take care
     of person to person delivery without any screening process.")

S5. Address of "the right person" in Fox Network --
    Peter Chernin, President, Fox Entertainment Group
    10201 W. Pico Blvd., Executive Bldg. 88 Suite 336
    Los Angeles, CA. 90035
    (213) 203-3377

S6. Address of Nielsen television-rating service --
    John C. Holt, Nielsen Television Research
    P.O. Box 4510, Clearwater, FL  34618-4510
    800-237-8611

S7. COOP (Citizens Opposing the Offing of Peaks)
    Keith Poston, COOP President
    202-342-7247
    The Great Northern, 4532 19th St. North, Arlington, Va. 22207
    Michael Caputo, COOP Director
    202-289-2834
    ("Call/write Keith for starter kits for your local COOP chapter, &
     for a long list of nationally based reporters in the entertain-
     ment field. "Serious inquiries only," he says, since he's footing
     the bill out of his own pocket.")

#S8. Iowa Chapter of COOP
#    Bob Cappel, President and Chairman
#    319-337-4856
#    czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu

#S9. Nationwide COOP bulletin-board system
#    319-337-4856
#    open 11pm to 7am CST
#    ("Information on how to start a COOP chapter availiable for 
#     download.")

#S10. Save Twin Peaks 900 number
#     1-900-369-4100
#     $2.00 / minute
#     (ABC and Lynch/Frost addresses -- see S1. and S2. above --
#      and inclusion on a monthly tally sent to ABC by MediaWorks
#      Ltd. Big whoop. -- ed.)

======================
Lists and Compilations
======================

The following lists are updated periodically and reposted to alt.tv.twin-peaks
by their owners.

L1. Annotated timeline for TP episodes broadcast to date --
ftp Edwin Nomura, enomura@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
    (120 K)

L2. TP cast to date --
ftp David Ernest Coufal, coufal@owl.caltech.edu 
    (10 K)

L3. Credits for each episode --
ftp David Ernest Coufal, coufal@owl.caltech.edu 
    ( > 82 K)

L4. Answers to frequently asked questions --
ftp Janet M. Swisher, swsh@ellis.uchicago.edu
    (10 K)

L5. Compilation of favorite quotes --
ftp Charles D. Kincaid, statman@oak.circa.ufl.edu 
ftp (Final Rob Jellinghaus <robertj@Autodesk.com> edition published 2/14/91.)
    (37 K)

L6. Cribsheet to TP resources --
ftp Keith Dawson, dawson@epps.kodak.com
    (6.3 K)

L7. Symbols/motifs in the Twin Peaks Universe --
ftp Jeffrey Koga, 6600koga@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
    (2.4 K)

L8. Oeuvres of TP contributors
    David Ernest Coufal, coufal@owl.caltech.edu 
#ftp  writers          (5 K)
#ftp  directors        (5 K)
#ftp  actors/actresses (15 K)
    (all movies/books each artist has been associated with)

==================
Other TP Resources
==================

The following goodies were either announced at least once on alt.tv.twin-peaks
by the given poster, or sent to me for inclusion in this list.

R1. FTP site for GIF (picture) files and sounds in Hypercard stack --
ftp (from 11/10, 11/17 episodes)
    freebie.engin.umich.edu (141.212.68.23); directory: /pub/twin-peaks 
    Posted by John Derek Demaree, demaree@caen.engin.umich.edu 

R2. Catalog of TP goodies (books, tee shirts, cassettes, etc.) --
    Twin Peaks Press, Box 129, Vancouver, WA  98666; (800) 637-2256
    (send $1.00)
    Posted by Kay Stanley, kstanley@rhumba.acs.unc.edu

R3. Mac disk filled with TP sounds --
    Doug Dulmage, ddulmage@cdp.uucp 
    (contact by email; send a blank disk)

R4. Postcard from Twin Peaks (actually Snoquamalie) --
    Laurie Kleiner, 815 35th Avenue, Seattle, WA  98122-5205
    (send a postcard of your hometown)

R5. ~9 MB of MacRecorder TP sounds (through #2013, 1/19) --
#ftp "Sam Hill Cabal," bwdavies@rodan.acs.syr.edu
#    (in the directory MAC-sounds in the ftp archive)

R6. Twin Peaks Gazette --
    P.O. Box 1804, Pacific Palisades, CA 90272
    800-626-TWIN

R7. Full text of Jan. 26 hoax threads
#ftp Edward Vielmetti, emv@msen.com (emv@ox.com)

R8. Transcript of second-season TP press kit --
ftp Dave Coufal, coufal@owl.caltech.edu

R9. Article "Appreciating alt.tv.twin-peaks"
    Fiona Oceanstar, fi@grebyn.com
    (10 K)
    (accepted for publication in "Twin Peaks Gazette")

#R10: Book: TWIN PEAKS Behind The Scenes
#     An Unofficial Visitors Guide to Twin Peaks
#     by Mark Altman (c) 1990 Pioneer Books
#     ISBN #1-55698-284-4
#     $14.95/$19.95 Canada
#     145 pages, 8.5"x11" paperbound

ii7gjg0b@serss0.fiu.edu (Jim Stafford) writes:

> > Did anyone catch the parody of Twin Peaks on "Anything But Love"?  After 
> > finally consumating their extended-for-sitcom-purposes courtship, the two
> > main characters in the show, Hannah and Marty, are contemplating how their
> > coworkers are going to react to their new status as a couple.  They fantasize
> > possible office scenes ( a 30's movie newsroom, a "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"
> > scene, a high society romantic comedy ).  After these, they agree that it
> > will be more like a soap opera, to which Marty adds "and of course it has 
> > to be a weird soap opera"...
> >
I don't watch much TV (other than Twin Peaks, of course :-), so I missed this
when it was first on.  However, a friend who knows how much I like TP taped
it for me.  I was laughing so hard I couldn't hear most of the dialog.

Just a note on the other parodies.  I recognized the first two as being
"The Front Page", and "Streetcar Named Desire".  The third I wasn't sure of
(might be just a generic Fred Astaire type movie).  Anyone catch enough
inside jokes to place it?
 
Sheila Wassmer, Hewlett-Packard Colorado IC Division
sew@hpfitst1.HP.COM

In article <12817@ur-cc.UUCP> ma2cs240@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Gian Di Loreto)
writes:
> >I read in a magazine recently that one of the main sources of food   
> >of the Owl (I forget exactly what kind of owl but I looked like the 
> >ones we always see in Twin Peaks) is the pine weasel, the animal Ben 
> >Horne wants to raise.  Interesting huh?
                ^^^^^
> >
> >Gian Di Loreto (UR) 
> >

Interesting, all right, but I don't think he wants to raise them, he wants to
get them listed as an endangered species and get development of Ghostwood
blocked until he can regain the land. At THAT point, he might be interested in
raising them as way to get them unlisted :-)
-Rich Haller

Does anypone in the San Jose area have a tape of this?  I'm dying to see it!

-- ------------------- Steve Sandke steve@orchid.tymnet.com

In article <66283@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU>, v095j38c@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Mujeeb A Muqtadir) writes...

  >Bob (or Frank Silva as he's known in the real world) was a pretty nice straight
  >forward guy.  He talked about how his mother was really proud of him and how
  >she tells anyone she meets that her son plays Bob on "Twin Peaks".  Silva also
  >has a day named after him in his home town (or so he says).  An interesting
  >side note, though, is the actor playing LMFAP and Silva both have the same
  >birthday.  Lynch also was showing off the COOP (Citizens Opposed to the Offing
  >of Peaks) T-Shirt he had gotten.

Actually, MFAP's and Silva's birthday is HOLLOWEEN!!!!!  And...
get this....they were both born AT NIGHT on Holloween!

Oooooooh.....  or maybe that should be Hooooooooo.....

(The OWLs are not what they seem.)

In a previous article, noe@sunc6.cs.uiuc.edu (Roger Noe) says:

> >In article <1991Mar17.113122@stoat.ed.ac.uk> bjr@stoat.ed.ac.uk (Brian J Ross) writes:
>> >>I must write to Sherilynn Fenn IMMEDIATELY.
>> >>This is of great personal importance. I am not kidding.
>> >>Surely SOMEONE out there must have an address for her,
>> >>such as the Twin Peaks production company, her agent, or 
>> >>even her home address and telephone number.
> >
> >I suppose you're going to claim that Sheri is having your baby.
> >
> >Are you the nut from Scotland she says has been harassing her?  The one
> >who wanted to smear haggis all over her naked body and then ... I can't
> >repeat it, it's so disgusting!  Sheri almost choked on her cherry stem
> >when she heard that.  (Yeah, she really can do that.)  You can just write
> >to her in care of Lynch-Frost Productions, I'm not about to give out her
> >home address or telephone number to weirdos and creeps, which seem to
> >compose the majority of readers of this newsgroup.  Why don't you go
> >bother Lara Flynn Boyle, nobody even likes her character, anyway!

Hey!  I always thought Donna was the hottest one on there!

Yours,
Keith
-- "Rite Aid is your friend" --Kim "Was it a parade of random violence?" --Dibbs "Let's <name omitted> bash!" --Leto These quotes brought to you by your Resident Republican Raymondite...keb3

In article <iZ6Vy4w164w@halcyon.uucp> halcyon!hikaru@seattleu.edu (Demosthenes) writes:
> >eck@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Hangnail Whipperwill) writes:
>> >>    Does anyone have a filmography for Kyle MacLachlan?  I know he was in
>> >> _The Doors_, _Dune_, _Blue Velvet_ and _The Hidden_, but I'm sure he's
>> >> been in more...by the way, if you haven't seen _The Hidden_, do so ASAP!
>> >> Great flick!
>> >> 
>> >> Brian
>> >> eck@eniac.seas.upenn.edu 
> >Nope, sorry to disappoint you, that's all the guy's been in, unless 
> >you've been in Seattle for a few years and have caught a few of the plays 
> >he was in (which, unfortunately, I did not)...

   Oops!  Sorry, he's in a movie that was just recently released (or is it
about to be released?) called "Don't Tell Her It's Me" with Jami Gertz,
Shelley (sp?) Long, and Steve Guttenberg.  I saw advertisements and posters
for this as far back as last October, so it is probably out by now...

   MacLachlan has been performing on stage here in Seattle?  Damn!  And I
didn't know about it.  Here I've been in town for the better part of two
years and I still don't know what's going on in this city!  Time to get a
life, I guess...


James Wiggs
wiggs@chemc2.chem.washington.edu _or_ wiggs@milton.u.washington.edu
#include <std.disclaimer>
"I guess we can't make fun of Bert's lifestyle anymore."  - Valentine McKee

Heather Graham from Drugstore Cowboy will be introduced on the March
28th episode.

Jeff Schwartz

keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely) writes:

>> >>bother Lara Flynn Boyle, nobody even likes her character, anyway!

> >Hey!  I always thought Donna was the hottest one on there!

No, I think the hottest one has to be Shelley Johnson (Madchen Amick)
-- -- John Coppinger "You'll find that your left cuff link -- -- University of Kentucky will be communicating with your right -- -- johnc@s.ms.uky.edu cuff link via satellite" -- -- johnc@graphlab.cc.uky.edu [NeXT] -- Nicholas Negroponte --

In article <1991Mar19.190720.9444@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely) writes:
> >Hey!  I always thought Donna was the hottest one on there!

She was until Evelyn Marsh showed up.
James may be a dolt but he picks 'em good.  :-)

-Matt

In article <5142@atexnet.UUCP> dawson@epps.kodak.com (Keith Dawson) writes:
> >
>> > >  I called Global TV (1-800-387-8001 from the yellow pages) and they
>> > >  said Twin Peaks will return Wednesday March 27 at 9pm. All six episodes
>> > >  will be broadcast in that slot.
> >
> >O woe. We in the USA are about to learn what it's like in the third
> >world. Just watch. All the Canadians will post summaries and kick off
> >in-depth discussions starting Wednesday night! And they'll all forget
> >to use spoiler warnings! They'll be unable to figure out how to insert
> >formfeeds using their favorite editors! We'll be tearing our hair...
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Keith Dawson   <dawson@epps.kodak.com>    voice=508-670-4025    fax=508-670-4033
> >Atex Advanced Publishing Sys., 165 Lexington Rd. (400/165L), Billerica, MA 01821
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  ...maybe it's the third world, maybe it's his first time around...


Naaaa we'll all be too busy eating back bacon and drinking beer :-)
(smiley denotes HEAVY sarcasm in this case)
-- Dave Brodbeck - U of T Psych The chickadees are not what they seem davidb@psych.toronto.edu

What about the circuit judge's assistant?
   
Angus MacDonald;  idddev@well.sf.ca.us
Opinions in this message are solely my own.

Michael Ontkean and Peggy Lipton turned up as guest presenters at the Logie
Awards (Australian TV awards), but Michael got a surprise which got him so
pissed off, he's leaving Australia early.
   They showed a clip from TP, supposedly of Daryl Somers' (the host) favourite
part from the show.  It was the body finding scene, where the Sheriff and Andy
turn Laura's body over and open the plastic, revealing her face.  So far so
good, except instead of revealing her face, it was the face of Daryl Somers
made up like Laura was (ie dead).  Michael grinned a bit, but didn't laugh as
loud as the crowd did.  In the newspaper next day, it was revealed he was
absolutely disgusted and planned to leave Australia early.  What a great sense
of humour !
Brian Smith   . . . . .  "She's deeaaaddd ... wrapped in plastic !"

**** STILL CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT EPISODE ****
















   >>Within the next couple of episodes, Cooper will fall in love (probably
   >>with Norma's sister.)
   >>
   >>Also: Cooper, Major Briggs, & the Log Lady will meet to compare notes.
   >>This should be interesting.

 >HOW do you know this??

 -Matt ??


There are several mentions of TP in the newest TV Guide; also, there was a
TV interview with Kyle Maclachlan.  This info came from those.

Ken

In article <59940080@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, richardh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Hancock) writes...

} / hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / tony@uc780.umd.edu /  4:55 pm  Mar 15, 1991 /

}} The way I heard it, the guy we know as BOB was on the set (doing his
}} job...wardrobe, is it?)  [...]

} The way I heard it, Lynch was pissed off with the guy for dressing Laura
} in such dowdy clothes  [...]

I feel obliged to point out that Frank Silva's job was as a *SET* dresser,
not wardrobe.

-- "If I haven't explained Jerry, it's because he really can't be explained." -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM or ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian

In article <59940080@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> richardh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Hancock) writes:
> >The way I heard it, Lynch was pissed off with [Frank Silva] for dressing Laura
> >in such dowdy clothes (remember the video of the picnic?) - he didn't
> >literally mean "you KILLED Laura".

On-set dressers don't design the costumes.

> >In article <1991Mar7.120031.22671@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, tom@mims-iris.waterloo.edu (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>>> >> > the show is already an enormous hit in England, Italy, and spain.
>> >> 
>> >> It's also popular in Finland.  How many other countries is it being shown in?
>> >> 
It was shown "saturation" in Norway, two episodes per week for the first
batch.


-- --Jeremy The Scotsman is mean, as we're all well aware, --<egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk> And bony and blotchy and covered with hair, He eats salty porridge and tosses huge trees, And wears pretty dresses to show off his knees.

>> >>    The episode of Anything But Love was on tonight.  Jamie-Lee
>> >> Curtis played Audrey and she tied a coffee stir into a pretzel.
>> >> She also did a paper clip into an outline of the U.S. AND she stuffed
>> >> some paper in her mouth and pulled out a tiny swan in a couple
>> >> seconds.  It was very amusing....music and everything!
> >
The idea that the revolting Curtis woman should imitate in any way the
luscious Audrey is simply disgusting. I feel like my mother has been
raped,



-- --Jeremy The Scotsman is mean, as we're all well aware, --<egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk> And bony and blotchy and covered with hair, He eats salty porridge and tosses huge trees, And wears pretty dresses to show off his knees.

In article <1991Mar17.113122@stoat.ed.ac.uk-> bjr@stoat.ed.ac.uk (Brian J Ross) writes:
->
->
->I must write to Sherilynn Fenn IMMEDIATELY.
->This is of great personal importance. I am not kidding.
->Surely SOMEONE out there must have an address for her,
->such as the Twin Peaks production company, her agent, or 
->even her home address and telephone number.
->
->Please! Somebody! If you have any knowledge on this, 
->do a Good Deed and help me.

Maybe if you, say, assassinated the President, she'd write to *you*



-- --Jeremy The Scotsman is mean, as we're all well aware, --<egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk> And bony and blotchy and covered with hair, He eats salty porridge and tosses huge trees, And wears pretty dresses to show off his knees.

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / bjr@stoat.ed.ac.uk (Brian J Ross) / 11:31 am  Mar 17, 1991 /

> > I must write to Sherilynn Fenn IMMEDIATELY.
> > This is of great personal importance. I am not kidding.

It's OK, she took precautions.

Richard pp. Lucy
"Do you want to play with flames, little boy?"

Hello fellow Peakers I need your help.  I will be traveling to the 
northern Washington area and I would appreciate someone reposting 
the list with all the information about the locations for TP.  The list
had the location of the Great Northern and several others.  If this could be
posted I would be very happy.  Thanks in advance.

Sam Cohen

SPOILERS AHEAD

















*  I heard this morning that Coop will confront Windham in the Black
Lodge and that we'll finally get to see what the black lodge is.

David Lynch will be directing the next (and last, sigh) episodes.

But will they tell us about the owls?  And how will Invitation to Love
end?

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

Richard Hancock writes:
> > [Finally, the full text.]
> > 
> > A chaste hero fixated on doughnuts and tripping on
> > loose ends is nothing new, says Biancamaria Fontana.
> > He has been around for at least a century
> > 
> > KIN PEAKS
> > 
> > Is Twin Peaks a truly
> > post-modern work, as
> > some critics have ar-
> > gued? An interesting ex-
> > periment maybe but one


I think I would've read this article if it had at least spanned some 75
characters across the screen.  As it was, my eyes just couldn't take it.


--    --
rj pietkivitchatt!ihlpz!rjp1

There is at least one documented  case of HIV being transmitted via
breast milk.  If you are interested, I can look it up in MEDLINE next
week.

Davie

[Finally, in a format you can stand to read, an interesting article...]

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original post:
From: richardh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Hancock)
Date: 18 Mar 91 13:05:35 GMT

[Finally, the full text.]

A chaste hero fixated on doughnuts and tripping on loose ends is nothing
new, says Biancamaria Fontana.  He has been around for at least a century.

      KIN PEAKS

   Is Twin Peaks a truly post-modern work, as some critics have
argued? An interesting experiment maybe but one which exploits
conventional rather than literary and visual strategies. The director
has in fact (deliberately or unwittingly) translated into the language
of cinema and of the television soap a traditional genre which
flourished within European literary culture up to the beginning of our
century: the feuilleton.

   The analogy is not immediately apparent because we tend to
associate feuilletons-- interminable sagas published in weekly
instalments by the popular press-- with a "period", generally 19th
century, Parisian slums and aristocratic mansions, pirate ships and
buried treasures, babies swapped in paupers' hospitals, poisoned
drinks, gipsies and so on. Diners, sheriffs and the FBI seem out of
place. But that's just historical distortion.

   Originally the writer of feuilletons was someone who would use
absolutely anything she could think of to tantalise her readers, search-
ing for the modern, the eccentric and the exotic without feeling, tied
to any particular background.

   The basic plot of Twin Peaks is a simple and rather conventional one: a
hero attempts to unmask a crime, punish its authors and vindicate their
innocent victims.  David Lynch's hero is Special Agent Dale Cooper (Kyle
MacLachlan) dispatched to investigate the horrific murder of a local
girl. Agent Cooper is a knight sans peur et sans reproche, immaculate from
his metal shinpads and bullet-proof vest to the top of his brilliantined
hair with an exagerated respect for his duties and Federal regulations.
He is innocent, brave, honest, generous, loyal, punctillious, pedantic,
priggish and is moreover guided in his quest for truth by the assistance
of superior forces.

   He takes an obsessive interest in trivial practical details and his
untimely remarks on black coffee and cherry pie, uttered at the moments
of greater dramatic tension, are probably the single most famous feature of
the serial (this obsessive interest he shares in fact with Dumas's Edmond
Dantes, who in the pages of the Count of Monte Cristo engages in tiresome
comparisons between French and Turkish, strong and weak, hot and
not-so-hot coffee).  Predicatbly, Cooper is chaste and his notion of
pleasure runs to a comfortable bed and a generous supply of doughnuts.

   In Eugene Sue's Les Mysteres de Paris (probably the most famous of all
19th-century popular narratives) the hero, Rodolphe Prince of Gerolstein,
fights a private war against crime; he is superhumanly clever, rich and
powerful, and secretly manipulates the othe characters. American
democratic sensibility would not allow this and the fedral agent's
relations to his assistants and to his enemies remain rigorously
egalitarian.

   The object of Cooper's quest, the murder victim, Laura Palmer (Sheryl
Lee), is an "innocent" girl who (like America) has been led by ex-
istential restlessness and sexual curiosity into corruption. That sexual
corruption for a woman is a terminal sin is one of the established truths
of the genre: in the Mysteres de Paris, Gerolstein finally recognises in
the child prostitute FleurMarie his own lost daughter.  She is restored
to her princely status, but since she has been "tainted", is sentenced to
a premature death.

   Blonde, soft, sensual, smiling vacantly from the picture on her
parents' mantelpiece, the ambiguous Laura forms a sharp contrast with
Cooper's sleek stiffness and self-contented moralism.

   Laura is a girl "full of secrets" and secrets, Cooper warns us, are
dangerous. The existence of mysteries and their progressive unveiling was a
major source of surprise and gratification for the reader of the 18th and
19th century popular narratives.  In the world of the feuilleton, goodness
is equivalent to transparency: everywhere deceit and secrecy serve the
cause of evil.

   In Twin Peaks mysteries take generally the form of cryptic and ambiguous
phrases, and Cooper's investigation consists largely in decodig verbal
clues, in solving a series of "riddles" ("The owls are not what they seem"
he murmurs, struck by a sudden illumination, as D'Artagnan cries "C'est
lui!, Lui, cet homme!" every time he recognises in a passing stranger the
Cardinal's spy Rochefort). Reviewers have remarked on the unusual length to
which Lynch carries his intrigue, and have suggested that the endlessly
delayed solution of the murder, and the breaking down of the story into
innumerable sub-plots illustrate the post-modern experience of an
ever-vanishing narrative.

   Yet Lynch's approach would have hardly surprised the writers of the last
century, who produced their novels week by week and resorted to all kinds
of tricks to stimulate or lull indefinitely their readers' attention,
especially when the formula proved successful.

   Television and cinema have accustomed us to short narratives and a short
span of attention. They also seem to endorse a fairly rigid distinction
of genres; social comedy, thriller, historical drama, science fiction, hor-
ror, fantasy.

   Above all Lynch has revived a taste for the eccentric and the bizarre.
In a rather hysterical but determined attempt to break through the
legions of beautiful, young, fit, smiling bodies which populate the
television screen, Lynch (who made his international debut directing The
Elephant Man) has resorted to dwarfs, giants, women with a patch on one
eye, men with one arm, talking birds, people whose hair turns white over-
night. These images would have been perfectly at home in many respectable
18th and 19th century works, where raving insanity, disfigurements and
mutilations were a matter of course.

   Inside the television screen there is a television screen.  Throughout
the story, the inhabitants of Twin Peaks are shown watching the episode
of a series called Invitation To Love. When the Sheriff walks into his
office and asks his secretary whay has happened she replies by updating
him on the plot of the soap oblivious to a series of "real" dramatic events
which have occurred in his absence.

   Lynch's trick, if not original is amusing: but the joke is on us. The
dream of postmodernist critics, the evervaishing-plot, had already
seduced our great-grandmothers. There is no way out of the feuilleton: we
are still trapped inside it and likely to remain there for a long, long
time.

[The Guardian, March 1991]

In article <59940082@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> richardh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Hancock) writes:
> >/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood) /  7:00 pm  Mar 15, 1991 /
> >
>> >> their first daughter was born, and she passed the virus on to their
>> >> newborn through breast milk, and then again to their son a couple years
>> >> later before anyone knew she had the disease.  But I wonder who this
>> >> co-author is!
> >
> >On a purely medical note, surely HIV can't be transmited thru' breast milk?
> >
> >worried@tvb

Yes, it can, the virus is present in all body fluids, including
breast milk.
.
--
________--_--________-->  I'm a biologist who studies life,
but, that doesn't mean I have to have one...

               Tony Sanderfoot  aasg7935@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

David Warner will be appearing in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The
Secret of Ooze.  I'm sorry.

Jeff Schwartz

======================================================================== 29
I heard this on the radio today and thought some of the avid
TP collectors would be interested (if you don't already know
about it)

A complete set of cards on the TP characters will
be available in stores in the next month.  Apparently
Frost is an avid card collector and this was his idea.
I didn't catch everything but one example they gave was the
card for the Log Lady, stating on the back that she was
attracted to "rugged young men".

Now this was on a Canadian radio station and I don't know if
when they said next month they meant here in Canada or in
the USA.




 Linda
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
"And what do I know about morals & ethics? Only what I read in novels and
 since I only read thrillers, that doesn't amount to much" Separate Tables
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Iowa COOP chapter is proud to welcome stars of Twin Peaks to Iowa!!!!

                         Harry Goaz (Deputy Andy Brennan)

                            and

                        Frank Silva (Killer BOB)


        will be the guests of honor at the "It is Happening Again" 
        costume party on Thursday, March 28th in the Wheel Room of
        the Iowa Memorial Union in Iowa City Iowa beginning at
        6:30 pm.

        All are invited to come dressed as their favorite Peaks
        character, and 'press the flesh' with Andy and BOB!

        Door prizes to be given away!  The world premiere of the 
        video "Give Peaks A Chance"!  And most importantly, Peaks
        return to be shown on closed circuit tv monitors throughout
        the party at 8:00pm!

        So...come one, come all!  Admission is $2.50 without a 
        costume, $1.50 with a costume!

        For more information, call (319) 337-4856 or email
        czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa!

        Long Live Agent Cooper!

                                                                    
        Bob 'BOB' Cappel



 
--
Robert D. Cappel, Iowa City,IA  ||
aka "BOB", eager for fun!       ||"All we are saying is give Peaks a chance!"
cappel@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu     ||                -COOP President
czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu     ||                 Keith Poston

Does anyone have good copies of the GIF Twin Peaks pictures (I think on 
freebie.engin.umich.edu)?  I can't seem to get them working.  Are they
packed in some special format?

Thanks,
Rocky

From article <73552091@bfmny0.BFM.COM>, by tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff):

> In article <59940080@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> richardh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Hancock) writes:
>>The way I heard it, Lynch was pissed off with [Frank Silva] for dressing Laura
>>in such dowdy clothes (remember the video of the picnic?) - he didn't
>>literally mean "you KILLED Laura".
>
> On-set dressers don't design the costumes.


I wonder if Frank Silva was a Dresser, one who helps actors into their
costumes, or a set dresser, one who places the props in their rightful
spots.

I get to meet Frank Silva on Thursday the 28th, and I will ask him
personally.

Bob 'BOB' Cappel

Hope to see some of you in Iowa City on the 28th!!!!!!


--
Robert D. Cappel, Iowa City,IA ||
aka "BOB", eager for fun! ||"All we are saying is give Peaks a chance!"
cappel@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu || -COOP President
czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu || Keith Poston

In article <4971@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Chad Zahrt) writes:
>From article <73552091@bfmny0.BFM.COM>, by tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff):
>> >> In article <59940080@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> richardh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Hancock) writes:
>>> >>>The way I heard it, Lynch was pissed off with [Frank Silva] for dressing Laura
>>> >>>in such dowdy clothes (remember the video of the picnic?) - he didn't
>>> >>>literally mean "you KILLED Laura".
>> >> 
>> >> On-set dressers don't design the costumes.
> >
> >
> >I wonder if Frank Silva was a Dresser, one who helps actors into their
> >costumes, or a set dresser, one who places the props in their rightful
> >spots.  
> >
> >Bob 'BOB' Cappel
> >
I wonder if Frank Silva is a dresser, like the one Josie got
trapped in....

Just peakin'...

-- Ed

wiggs@milton.u.washington.edu (James Wiggs) writes:
> >    MacLachlan has been performing on stage here in Seattle?  Damn!  And I
> > didn't know about it.  Here I've been in town for the better part of two
> > years and I still don't know what's going on in this city!  Time to get a
> > life, I guess...

Not lately - I'm not sure he's even been in Seattle since Blue Velvet... 
He was born in Yakima, is a U. Dub grad, and Lynch picked him out of a 
Seattle theatre for Dune. After Dune turned out to be a flop, he went 
back to Seattle for plays for a coupla years, then when Lynch wanted to 
Blue Velvet, he gave Kyle a call - and the guy's never looked back since. 


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bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:

> > scott@bbxsda.UUCP (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>> > > You left off the best part:  Bob and the Dwarf (in real life) both have the
>> > > same birthday - Oct 31!
> > 
> > OK, now how does that relate to the old hacker's joke of Halloween and
> > Christmas being the same because OCT 31 == DEC 25?

Uh, is it just me, or does that make no sense whatsoever?

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If they knew anything about career                     18004 146th Ave NE
moves, why would they be guidance                    Woodinville, WA 98072  
counselors?" - Happy Harry Hard-On, "Pump Up the Volume"
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    As a new commer to "Twin Peaks", who did kill Laura Palmer?

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MattBrockman) / 11:29 pm  Mar 19, 1991 /

> > She was until Evelyn Marsh showed up.
> > James may be a dolt but he picks 'em good.  :-)

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan) /  6:34 pm  Mar 20, 1991 /

> > [Finally, in a format you can stand to read, an interesting article...]

Surely you didn't think the formatting was unintentional? Did you miss the
hidden meaning inserted by the type-setters? (Here's a clue - check the hy-
phenation).

> > [The Guardian...

...of the White Lodge?

Last night I saw an episode (after that one in which Cooper was shot) where 
there was this tall actor telling riddles for Cooper (who was laying on the
floor few bullets in his stomach). Who was this actor and why he seems so
familiar to me ? (i.e. what other series/films has he been in ?)
Thanks in advance...


-- Janne Salmij{rvi s117986@cc.tut.fi

Has anyone caught the commercial announcing the return of TP.. I only saw a 
portion of it but it looked like the ending of The Wizard of OZ with 
Cooper as Dorthey saying something like theres no place like home...??
The dwarf, Catheryn and others were around the bed and in the last Coop
speaks to Diane something about the new date and time..  

Did anyone catch all of this..???
 

Cant wait for the 28th...  

Keep thoes cards and letters going to all approperiate parties...

Susanne


--
  .^.^.  Susanne Barbera-Ramsey     Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
 . o o . 7000 East Avenue L-630  |  (415) 423-9530
 .>>v<<. Livermore Ca 94550  |  ramsey@sundance.llnl.gov
 _mm.mm_____________________________________________________________________

I too am looking for someone who would loan me a tape of this.. I am in the 
Tri-Valley area...  Livermore Dublin Pleasanton

susanne

--
  .^.^.  Susanne Barbera-Ramsey     Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
 . o o . 7000 East Avenue L-630  |  (415) 423-9530
 .>>v<<. Livermore Ca 94550  |  ramsey@sundance.llnl.gov
 _mm.mm_____________________________________________________________________

s117986@lehtori.tut.fi (Janne Salmij{rvi) writes:


> >Last night I saw an episode (after that one in which Cooper was shot) where 
> >there was this tall actor telling riddles for Cooper (who was laying on the
> >floor few bullets in his stomach). Who was this actor and why he seems so
> >familiar to me ? (i.e. what other series/films has he been in ?)
> >Thanks in advance...


> >-- 
> >Janne Salmij{rvi
> >s117986@cc.tut.fi

The actors name is Carel Struyken (spelling correction requested if
necessary).  He has also appeared on Star Trek:  The Next Generation
as Counselor Troi's mother's valet.


Mitch McGowan
hamlet@u.washington.edu
I will return.  Until then, I will be in
the shadows if you need me.
  - Major Briggs, Twin Peaks

  Oh YEAH!!!!! Now Global viewers will see how it feels to see Twin
Peaks ahead of the States (like some people can see a new episode of
ST:TNG a week before anybody else). The Global viewers will be the
ones to comment on the episode before anyone else. I'm sure that
we'll see SPOILER warnings (unless it's a person new to at.tp).

To get off the subject....when will Canadians be shown not to be
evil, trecherous murderers from OEJ????????????????

In article <oy65y3w164w@halcyon.uucp>, halcyon!hikaru@seattleu.edu (Demosthenes) writes:
|> bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:
|> 
|> > scott@bbxsda.UUCP (Scott Amspoker) writes:

|> > OK, now how does that relate to the old hacker's joke of Halloween and
|> > Christmas being the same because OCT 31 == DEC 25?
|> 
|> Uh, is it just me, or does that make no sense whatsoever?
|> 

     Ooooh, you non-mathies make me sick.  :-)  OCT --> base 8, so 8*3+1=25,
which is in DEC (base 10, or what you might call maize--er,uh, 'regular' numbers.)
Enough for now, I grow weary.
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian D. Moore | Homebrewing -- the only sport exclusively for Space Physics and Astronomy | anal-retentive alcoholics. Rice University, Houston TX | Relax -- have a home brew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

In article <ramsey.669575518@moonshine>, ramsey@moonshine.llnl.gov (Susanne Ramsey) writes:
> > Has anyone caught the commercial announcing the return of TP.. I only saw a 
> > portion of it but it looked like the ending of The Wizard of OZ with 
> > Cooper as Dorthey saying something like theres no place like home...??
> > The dwarf, Catheryn and others were around the bed and in the last Coop
> > speaks to Diane something about the new date and time..  
> > 
> > Did anyone catch all of this..???
> >  
> > Susanne
> > 
It was broadcast on ABC on Wednesday evening.  It showed Cooper in bed,
surrounded by Katherine, the LMFAP, and others.  He said something like
"I had this awful dream that we were broadcasting on Saturday night."  Then
everyone said "Ooh, what a bad dream".  Then Cooper looked up at Katherine
and said something like "Auntie Em, I'm glad it was only a bad dream.  There's
no place our home, on Thursday nights".   Then the announcer mentioned
TPs new place and time.  (This is from memory....my faulty memory).  Anyway,
I thought it was corny!  Still, it was great to see these guys again,
even if it was only for 30 seconds!!!

I can't wait for a new episode!!!!!

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    A.M. Lanning      amyl@cbnews      AT&T BELL LABORATORIES        
    Disclaimer: AT&T doesn't take me seriously, and you shouldn't either. 
c

In article <20038@paperboy.OSF.ORG> buchman@open.osf.org (Terri Buchman) writes:
> >
>> >>In article <1991Mar14.084029.27041@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au
> >(Matt (ftp) Crowd) w
>> >> #>#
>> >>#Does anyone know the answer to this question ?
>> >> #>#
>> >>#matt. ps. I do not read this newsgroup at all so please email.
>> >> #>
> >
> >Laura Palmer was, in actuality, killed by James and Donna.  

Actually, Laura is not dead at all.  The body that was found was that
of Maddy, who Laura killed so she could take Maddy's place and start
a new life free from all the terrible things of her childhood.

-----
Gordy

Well, it's pretty simple really.  The FBI forensics man said Laura got pecked
by a minah bird.  So naturally, when agent Cooper had this dream about a one
armed man named MIKE and a killer named BOB, and this one-armed shoe salesman
showed up who looked MIKE and had a veterinarian friend named Bob, and the
vet had a client who was a known drug runner and owned a minah bird, suspicion
fell on the drug runner.  But while they were looking for the drug-runner's
cabin they came across this crazy lady who said she heard a THIRD MAN the
night of the murder.  So when drug runner said he was unconscious when his
drug runner friend and Laura disappeared, and later the one-armed shoe salesman
went into a trance and became MIKE and said BOB was an inhabiting spirit, and
then a room service waiter offered a stick of gum to Laura's father, Agent
Cooper immediately arrested Laura's father who went into a trance, became
BOB and confessed.  If I've seen it once, I've seen it a thousand times.

In <1238@giaea.gi.oz>, s9113231@giaea.gi.oz (Geoffrey Bassett) writes:

> > As a new commer to "Twin Peaks", who did kill Laura Palmer?

The Butler did it.

(Nadine, of course)     .-)

----------------------------------------
Mike Malcom
waiting in the shadows for TP to return

In article <1991Mar21.224718.28395@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, afwendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WENDY WARTNICK) writes...
> >In article <18819@milton.u.washington.edu>, hamlet@milton.u.washington.edu (Mitch Mcgowan) writes...
>> >>s117986@lehtori.tut.fi (Janne Salmij{rvi) writes:
>> >> 
>> >>The actors name is Carel Struyken (spelling correction requested if
>> >>necessary).  He has also appeared on Star Trek:  The Next Generation
>> >>as Counselor Troi's mother's valet.
> > 
> > 
> >Damn!  I always thought Counselor Troi's mother's valet was Mac Fleetwood..
> >I mean, Fleetwood's name always appears in the credits of the episodes 
> >where the valet dude appears (as a guest star).  I must admit, I never 
> >could see the resemblance.  Who does Mac Fleetwood portray then?
> > 
> >-way messed up-
> > 
> >-wendy
> > 

.. uh, it's Mick Fleetwood. The group's name came from (Mick) Fleewood and 
(John) Mac(Vie). Christine MacVie, John's (EX) Wife was the singer/keyboardist.

I would have snagged this one reguardless of who posted, Wendy, so don't 
feel picked-on !

... yet


Stephen Dennison

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In article <18819@milton.u.washington.edu>, hamlet@milton.u.washington.edu (Mitch Mcgowan) writes...
> >s117986@lehtori.tut.fi (Janne Salmij{rvi) writes:
> > 
> >The actors name is Carel Struyken (spelling correction requested if
> >necessary).  He has also appeared on Star Trek:  The Next Generation
> >as Counselor Troi's mother's valet.


Damn!  I always thought Counselor Troi's mother's valet was Mac Fleetwood..
I mean, Fleetwood's name always appears in the credits of the episodes 
where the valet dude appears (as a guest star).  I must admit, I never 
could see the resemblance.  Who does Mac Fleetwood portray then?

-way messed up-

-wendy

In article <1238@giaea.gi.oz> s9113231@giaea.gi.oz (Geoffrey Bassett) writes:
> >
> >    As a new commer to "Twin Peaks", who did kill Laura Palmer?


 Oh gee,  oh gosh,  oh golly... I guess I kinda sorta did.

 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

BUD ( Now with a strange feeling of deja vu )


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In article <234@tymix.Tymnet.COM> steve@gabriel.Tymnet.COM (Steve Sandke) 
writes:
> >Does anypone in the San Jose area have a tape of this?  I'm dying to see it!
> >
> >-- 
> >-------------------
> >Steve Sandke
> >steve@orchid.tymnet.com

Ditto. Hope it goes to reruns...

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Think about this for a moment...

Avant-garde Twin Peaks Director David Lynch...
Avant-garde music composer John Cage...

Scary...isn't it?

--Andrew Weiskopf
  ST891425.pip.cc.brandeis.edu

"Now you're the only one here who can tell me if it's true,
 that you love me, and I love me." -TMBG

(Yes, Matt! YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!! I, too am a TMBG fan...)

In a previous article, s9113231@giaea.gi.oz (Geoffrey Bassett) says:

> >
> >    As a new commer to "Twin Peaks", who did kill Laura Palmer?
> >
It was Blackie.  She couldn't handle not being the town slut anymore

00sgcohen@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:

> > Hello fellow Peakers I need your help.  I will be traveling to the 
> > northern Washington area and I would appreciate someone reposting 
> > the list with all the information about the locations for TP.  The list
> > had the location of the Great Northern and several others.  If this could be
> > posted I would be very happy.  Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Sam Cohen


Don't have the list, but be wary of one thing: A lot of people will tell 
you that the Salish Lodge was used for the Great Northern Hotel. This is 
not true- Salish was used for EXTERIORS ONLY. The nearby Kiana Lodge was 
used for interiors for the Great Northern, and for the Martell lodge.

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hamlet@milton.u.washington.edu (Mitch Mcgowan) writes:

> > s117986@lehtori.tut.fi (Janne Salmij{rvi) writes:
> > 
> > 
>> > >Last night I saw an episode (after that one in which Cooper was shot) where 
>> > >there was this tall actor telling riddles for Cooper (who was laying on the
>> > >floor few bullets in his stomach). Who was this actor and why he seems so
>> > >familiar to me ? (i.e. what other series/films has he been in ?)
>> > >Thanks in advance...
> > 
> > 
>> > >-- 
>> > >Janne Salmij{rvi
>> > >s117986@cc.tut.fi
> > 
> > The actors name is Carel Struyken (spelling correction requested if
> > necessary).  He has also appeared on Star Trek:  The Next Generation
> > as Counselor Troi's mother's valet.

He has also been mistaken by several people as Lurch from the Adams 
Family...

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s9113231@giaea.gi.oz (Geoffrey Bassett) writes:

> > 
> >     As a new commer to "Twin Peaks", who did kill Laura Palmer?


Oooh! Oooh! Can I be the first? Please?

"It is happening again. It is happening again."

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From article <1238@giaea.gi.oz>, by s9113231@giaea.gi.oz (Geoffrey Bassett):

>
> As a new commer to "Twin Peaks", who did kill Laura Palmer?

(shaking finger) ah ah ah, Geoffry! Now you know we can't tell you that!
I realize that the land Down Under has just started TP, and we can't ruin
all the fun for you....but if I must tell you....

It was the log lady. She whacked Laura over the head with her log when
Laura caught Margaret and Mayor Dwayne Milford (the third man) making
love in the train car. The Log Lady was secretly the publisher of
"Fleshworld" and Leo and Jaque were the chief photographers. Laura
had always been a peeping tom and went just a little too far one night.
Theresa Banks was actually in her 30's and was the person that the log
lady took 'Fleshworld' away from in a corporate takeover, and Margaret
believed that Laura was out for revenge...since she and Theresa were
lovers.

Hope that helps!

Bob 'BOB' Cappel
--
Robert D. Cappel, Iowa City,IA ||
aka "BOB", eager for fun! ||"All we are saying is give Peaks a chance!"
cappel@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu || -COOP President
czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu || Keith Poston

In article <oy65y3w164w@halcyon.uucp> halcyon!hikaru@seattleu.edu (Demosthenes) writes:
> >bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:
> >
>> >> scott@bbxsda.UUCP (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>>> >> > You left off the best part:  Bob and the Dwarf (in real life) both have the
>>> >> > same birthday - Oct 31!
>> >>
>> >> OK, now how does that relate to the old hacker's joke of Halloween and
>> >> Christmas being the same because OCT 31 == DEC 25?
> >
> >Uh, is it just me, or does that make no sense whatsoever?

Obviously you're not an old hacker.  :-)
But seriously, the joke is that the number 31 represented in the
octal numeric system (base 8) is equivalent to the number twenty-five in the
decimal system you know and love.  The standard abbreviations for the systems
are OCT and DEC.  Therefore, OCT 31 = DEC 25 and Halloween and Christmas are
the same!  :)

-Dan Harkless
 dharkles@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

Kyle was on the Arsenio Hall show last night (here in So. Cal.).
If the show is yet to be broadcast in your area, you can still catch it.
The highlight is when he talks about his childhood (and adulthood) fascination
with the "Pirates of the Carribean" ride at Disneyland (it feels weird to
have to add "at Disneyland" - I'm not used to conversing with out-of-staters).
It was very "damn fine cup of joe"'ish.  And damn if the man doesn't have a
magnetic smile!  (Even though I'm not homosexual)

-Dan Harkless
 dharkles@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

In article <1991Mar21.224718.28395@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> afwendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WENDY WARTNICK) writes:
#Damn!  I always thought Counselor Troi's mother's valet was Mac Fleetwood..
#I mean, Fleetwood's name always appears in the credits of the episodes 
#where the valet dude appears (as a guest star).  I must admit, I never 
#could see the resemblance.  Who does Mac Fleetwood portray then?

He was one of the "fish" that transported aboard in stasis.

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From article <1991Mar21.130330.4372@cc.tut.fi>, by s117986@lehtori.tut.fi (Janne Salmij{rvi):

>
> Last night I saw an episode (after that one in which Cooper was shot) where
> there was this tall actor telling riddles for Cooper (who was laying on the
> floor few bullets in his stomach). Who was this actor and why he seems so
> familiar to me ? (i.e. what other series/films has he been in ?)
> Thanks in advance...
>
>
> --
> Janne Salmij{rvi
> s117986@cc.tut.fi

Thanks for all who replied... (sorry for extra spaces but it is this f*g
keyboard...
Anyway, I remembered him myself yesterday on my way home, but I thought he
was the one from episode 'Where No Man Has Gone Before' or something like that.
But guess I was wrong then... ;)

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / ingraffi@tramp.Colorado.EDU (INGRAFFIA EDMOND J) /  3:50 am  Mar 21, 1991 /

If Frank Silva turns out to be a set-dresser, please read my original posting
as :-

The way I heard it, Lynch was pissed off with [Frank Silva] for placing
Laura in such miserable surroundings (remember the video of the picnic? this
was actually filmed on a set dressed by Silva) - he didn't literally mean
"you KILLED Laura".

Richard.
"You wouldn't let it lie!"

Organization: SINTEF

The following is posted for a friend, Geir Skaugen, currently without net 
access, but desperately trying to get it...:

On the Directors list there was one film missing from the David Lynch 
filmography.

In 1990 David Lynch made a 40 minutes short film for the French paper "Le 
Figaro" for promoting French culture,  or whatever passes for  such, 
:-)  in the U.S.  
It is called "The  Cowboy And The Frenchman" (or vice versa)  and features 
among others Jack Nance and  hundreds of snails...

Geir Skaugen,
SINTEF, Trondheim, Norway

- Roar Larsen
  Trondheim, Norway
  rlifk@termix.termo.unit.no

dharkles@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:

> >It was very "damn fine cup of joe"'ish.  And damn if the man doesn't have a
> >magnetic smile!  (Even though I'm not homosexual)

> >-Dan Harkless
> > dharkles@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

The world is a sad place indeed if one has to be a homosexual to enjoy
another person's smile.
-- John Carey University of Illinois Dept. of Computer Science carey@a.cs.uiuc.edu {uu-net,pur-ee,convex,...}!uiucdcs!carey

In article <14740035@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> sew@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Sheila Wassmer) writes:

> >Just a note on the other parodies.  I recognized the first two as being
> >"The Front Page", and "Streetcar Named Desire".  The third I wasn't sure of
> >(might be just a generic Fred Astaire type movie).  Anyone catch enough
> >inside jokes to place it?

It was, as they said, Noel Coward; specifically, Private Lives.  The
main lines I remember being quoted were about the potency of cheap music
(only they said something other than music), and the tagline "Very
<adjective>, <placename>," both of them famous lines from Private Lives.
And the general ultra-sophistication, with martinis and cigarette
holders and attempts at British accents.

Jon Alan Conrad

> >/ hpcvra.cv.hp.com:alt.tv.twin-peaks / afwendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WENDY WARTNICK) /  2:47 pm  Mar 21, 1991 /
> >
> >Damn!  I always thought Counselor Troi's mother's valet was Mac Fleetwood..
> >I mean, Fleetwood's name always appears in the credits of the episodes 
> >where the valet dude appears (as a guest star).  I must admit, I never 
> >could see the resemblance.  Who does Mac Fleetwood portray then?

This is off the subject of twin-peaks ... but Mic Fleetwood portrayed one
of the "fish people" in the episode you are referring to.  I believe he
was the one that the explosive material was found on.

> >-wendy

Dave Ochs

In article <1991Mar22.184346.2300@midway.uchicago.edu> bcp1@ellis.uchicago.edu
(bruce christian paul) writes:
[deletions]
> >It is not NECESSARY that TP get bad ratings.  I am going to force as
> >many people as I can to watch TP (unfortunately, no one I know is
> >a neilson family).  Though most people I know watch TP already, I am
> >still going to try and convert others.  They have no excuse, if their
[more deletions]

Actually, unless a person is in a household with a TV gizmo that actually
reports what they are watching (I think one of the rating systems does this),
it doesn't make a difference what you actually do, only what you report. For
example, I believe Nielsen families keep logs that are checked off/filled out
by hand. Likewise, if you are polled by phone, you can report you watched TP
whether you did or not. They don't quiz you about the plot to validate your
response or have some detective investigate you.  So ask your friends to say
they watch TP even if they don't watch and to write letters to ABC thanking
them for bringing it back :-)

Seriously, though, do encourage people to watch. Many people are convinced one
has to be a Peaks Freak to understand what is going on and to enjoy it. Try and
make the point that this is not the case, that they will enjoy it even if they
don't know anything about what went on before, but if they are curious, you can
bring them up to date on the high points. "Try it! You'll like it!" ought to be
our motto. Also, if you are watching with what the RHPS people call 'virgins',
don't volunteer comments on what is going on. Wait to be asked.

-Rich (Nimzowitsch Defense) Haller

I've had a couple of requests, so:

The address to write to say that you too, like
Twin Peaks is:

ABC
Robert Iger
2040 Avenue of the Stars
Century City, CA 90067

Matt
..
.

In article <1991Mar23.143901.757@engin.umich.edu> rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
> >In article <91080.130719ACPS6410@Ryerson.CA> Nadir U Ahmed <ACPS6410@Ryerson.CA> writes:
> >
>> >>To get off the subject....when will Canadians be shown not to be
>> >>evil, trecherous murderers from OEJ????????????????
> >
> >I keep hearing this.  Are Canadians actually worried that world
> >opinion will turn on the portrayal of a handful of people on a
> >not-very-realistic TV show?  I don't go around wringing my hands over
> >how Americans are portrayed every time a psychopathic cannibal
> >psychiatrist turns up in a movie: "Jeepers, I wish they wouldn't make
> >it seem like Americans are psychopathic cannibal psychiatrists!"
> >(FACT: less than 10% of the psychiatrists in the US are actually
> >practicing cannibals. :) But Canadians seem inordinately afraid we'll
> >think they're all slovenly criminals with bad Quebecois accents.  Is
> >there some sort of inferiority complex at work here or what?

Really its just that we're sick and tired of people thinking we all
live in Igloos, ride dog sleds and our police wear Red dress tunics
while on duty.  As far as the bad Qubecer accents go this kinda bugs
me, as I think it would bother an Englishman who heard an American/
Canadian doing a bad English accent.  Its not a fear of world opinion
really, we'd just like people to know what we're about abit more.
Dave
 
-- Dave Brodbeck - U of T Psych The chickadees are not what they seem davidb@psych.toronto.edu

In article <00945F36.1F1ACD60@pip.cc.brandeis.edu> st891425@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> >Think about this for a moment...
> >
> >Avant-garde Twin Peaks Director David Lynch...
> >Avant-garde music composer John Cage...
> >
> >Scary...isn't it?

I suppose if you're a certain sort of dilettante it is.

Lynch and Cage aren't of the same era, they don't look alike, they
don't wrestle with the same sorts of aesthetic problems, they don't
work in the same fields and their respective bodies of work don't
resemble one another in the slightest.  What they *do* have in common
is that certain sorts of art-newbies think they can wow people by
dropping their names.  I guess they're both the kind of
outside-the-mainstream types that pop culture like to canonize every
now and then, as if to assure itself of its cutting-edge credentials.
That's hardly something Lynch and Cage (and William Burroughs and the
other people who have gotten this treatment) are to be blamed for, but
I suppose it is a similarity of sorts.

Is that what you meant?



--
 Rod Johnson  *  rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu  *  (313) 650 2315 

  "House, bridge, well, gate, jug, olive tree, window"  --Rilke

In article <91080.130719ACPS6410@Ryerson.CA> Nadir U Ahmed <ACPS6410@Ryerson.CA> writes:

> >To get off the subject....when will Canadians be shown not to be
> >evil, trecherous murderers from OEJ????????????????

I keep hearing this.  Are Canadians actually worried that world
opinion will turn on the portrayal of a handful of people on a
not-very-realistic TV show?  I don't go around wringing my hands over
how Americans are portrayed every time a psychopathic cannibal
psychiatrist turns up in a movie: "Jeepers, I wish they wouldn't make
it seem like Americans are psychopathic cannibal psychiatrists!"
(FACT: less than 10% of the psychiatrists in the US are actually
practicing cannibals. :) But Canadians seem inordinately afraid we'll
think they're all slovenly criminals with bad Quebecois accents.  Is
there some sort of inferiority complex at work here or what?

--
 Rod Johnson  *  rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu  *  (313) 650 2315 

  "House, bridge, well, gate, jug, olive tree, window"  --Rilke

In article <1991Mar23.162615.7008@psych.toronto.edu> davidb@psych.toronto.edu (David Brodbeck) writes:

> >Really its just that we're sick and tired of people thinking we all
> >live in Igloos, ride dog sleds and our police wear Red dress tunics
> >while on duty.

The thing is. . . really, I don't know *anyone* who thinks that.  Not
one person.  Maybe I'm unusual in that I live a half hour from the
border, but I've been around a bit and have never met anyone in, say,
Ukiah, California or Springfield, Missouri, who appeared to think that
Canada was one big Nelson Eddy movie.  Around this part of the
country, Toronto is a popular vacation destination even among people
who would never dream of riding a dog sled or staying in an igloo.

How about it, Americans?  Can we just stipulate it?  Canada is NOT
LIKE THAT.  Don Cherry OK, Bob and Doug maybe, but Nelson Eddy,
igloos, huskies, red tunics are right out.  NOT LIKE THAT.

OK, that's settled.  Besides, everyone knows it's much more like "Anne
of Green Gables." :)

--
 Rod Johnson  *  rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu  *  (313) 650 2315 

  "House, bridge, well, gate, jug, olive tree, window"  --Rilke

In a previous article, rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) says:
> >In article <1991Mar23.162615.7008@psych.toronto.edu> davidb@psych.toronto.edu (David Brodbeck) writes:
> >
>> >>Really its just that we're sick and tired of people thinking we all
>> >>live in Igloos, ride dog sleds and our police wear Red dress tunics
>> >>while on duty.
> >
> >The thing is. . . really, I don't know *anyone* who thinks that.  Not
> >one person.  Maybe I'm unusual in that I live a half hour from the
> >border, but I've been around a bit and have never met anyone in, say,
> >Ukiah, California or Springfield, Missouri, who appeared to think that
> >Canada was one big Nelson Eddy movie.  Around this part of the
> >country, Toronto is a popular vacation destination even among people
> >who would never dream of riding a dog sled or staying in an igloo.
> >How about it, Americans?  Can we just stipulate it?  Canada is NOT
> >LIKE THAT.  Don Cherry OK, Bob and Doug maybe, but Nelson Eddy,
> >igloos, huskies, red tunics are right out.  NOT LIKE THAT.
> >OK, that's settled.  Besides, everyone knows it's much more like "Anne
> >of Green Gables." :)

I agree...I've lived in North Dakota, Louisiana, Connecticut, Maine, and Ohio
and I don't know of anyone who thinks that.  In fact, I never heard of it 
until you just mentioned it.  

I mean, though, there are stereotypes everywhere.  What about the typical
American...you know, the one with the southern drawl, wearing a cowboy
hat and boots, like the ones you see on Dallas?

And the typical American tourist...with sunglasses, florid flowery shorts and
a camera slung over one shoulder, resting on the opposite hip, a pot belly.

I mean, does anyone *really* think that is what America is like?

I don't get this stereotyped image of Canada from the Renault brothers.  The
only thing I will agree on is the fake accents.  Because, sometimes it really
bugs me when people try to make a cajun accent.  It is *so* phony.  The 
closest thing I've ever heard to a cajun accent that was not cajun was somebody
from Quebec, Canada...and he wasn't *trying* to sound cajun, that's just the
way he sounded.  But, then again, cajuns supposedly have originated from that
area of Canada anyway....

(I know this doesn't have much to do with Twin Peaks)  

CAN'T WAIT TIL THURSDAY!!!

(I'm going to purposely have to refrain myself from reading this newsgroup 
until I've seen the episode on Thursday, so as not to have all those 
igloo-dwelling Canadians spoil it for me)  :)

Yours,
Keith