Season 2, Episodes 21–22: Miss Twin Peaks / Beyond Life and Death — June 10, 1991–August 27, 1992

My Hayward CAL paper also added a few lines indicating that
this "movie would concern itself with the what happens after
Dale Cooper becomes BOB as well as the Black Lodge."  

It seems that the preciously mentioned "Last 7 days of LP life"
will NOT be the subject of the movie.

When we were first presented the character of the Major he
appeared to be some pompous, hypercritical and uncaring figure.
But in this season he seemed to become the opposite, to be
one of the most sensitive, persceptive and genuine figures.
Now in rewatching the first episodes of the first season
especially the funeral episode, 1004, the Major doesn't
seemed to have really changed. That before, actions which
I thought were pompous were in actuality the same actions
which he has been showing throughout the second season.
At first his little speech to Bobbie prior to the funeral
seemed to by hypercritical and empty, yet upon later
reflection and retrospect that seem to reveal geniune
concern for Bobbie and geniune sorrow for Laura's death.
What before seemed artificial now does not.  In this 
past season his character was develop and thus actions
which he had taken before now make more sense.

Sally--


-- I really dislike it when people fondle my floss. || Sally A. Wilson (Jack Deveraux DOOL) || -So what if I have a I need to brush my teeth. || fetish for dental hygene- (CooBOB _Twin_Peaks_) || sally@mica.berkeley.edu

What is going on with COOP.  Is the "Save the Pine Weasel..."
thing still going on? Has the organization disbandied?
A number of months ago I sent in my money for the COOP T-shirt,
but never received it.  Last month I received this standard
letter about thanks for my help, etc. but no mention of the
t-shirt.  Are they still being printed?  What is going on.
I sent in money for myself and 2 people and I would like
to know what is happening.  I'd hate to be out $39.

I apologize for the bitchin', but can someone please send
me some info.  Email it so as not to further clug up the
net.

Thanks,

Sally--

-- I really dislike it when people fondle my floss. || Sally A. Wilson (Jack Deveraux DOOL) || -So what if I have a I need to brush my teeth. || fetish for dental hygene- (CooBOB _Twin_Peaks_) || sally@mica.berkeley.edu

Isn't Sherlyn Fenn HOT!!

In article <Devin_Davidson.3424@tptbbs.UUCP> Devin_Davidson@tptbbs.UUCP (Devin Davidson) writes:
> >
> >One cries out between two worlds

Well, *that* avoids the "chants/chance" issue...

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In article <1991Jul4.135716.20578@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes:
> >
> >
> >``What the hell are you talking about?'' --- Roger Hardy
> >
OK...I give up...who's Roger Hardy and what was the context of the quote?



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OK.  Question.
Has Bob inhabited the area around Twin Peaks, so to speak, forever?
(If this has been discussed before, I'm sorry.  I haven't checked on this
board for a while.)

And who decorates the B&W lodges?
Have they been hired in?
Or does Bob do it himself?

Jason_H@tptbbs.UUCP (Jason H) writes:

> >Isn't Sherlyn Fenn HOT!!

Why, yes, she is.  

Madchen Amick, however, moved up to my personal physical obsession by the
end of the series, bumping Sherilyn out of first place by a mere smile.

Maybe it's because, after seeing TWO MOON JUNCTION (a positively *awful*
film, btw), there's no more mystery to Audrey:  anyone who's seen the film
is fully aware of what lies beneath the fuzzy sweaters and plaid skirts
(dye notwithstanding).

Or maybe Madchen just reminds me of my fiancee.  Go figure.
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================QUOTE OF THE [INSERT TEMPORAL DESIGNATION]=================
"Let's keep going!"
"You mean it?"
--- Thelma (Geena Davis) and Louise (Susan Sarandon), THELMA
AND LOUISE, 1991

There's a piece in today's local paper, quoted from the New York Times.
Having said that, here's the article:

SEATTLE -- On a chilly day a few weeks ago, Pat Reed, a clerk at
Central Sundries in the tiny mountain city of Roslyn, raced to the
window, adjusted her trifocals and watched a dozen or so naked men run
down Main Street.

They ran smack into the mayor and police chief, who were livid.

``I could have died!'' bellowed Reed, who is 59.  ``My goodness, I've
been married 40 years, and I've never seen anyting like that!''

The men, cast members of the hit CBS series ``Northern Exposure,'' were
later reprimanded by the Roslyn City Countil for shedding the
flesh-colored Lycra briefs they had been wearing for a scene that
called for a group dip in an icy river.

Indecent exposure is criminal activity in the state of Washington, they
were told, and the men each face possible fines of $250.

The charges are pending but they're not likely to stick.  ``Northern
Exposure,'' which is set in Alaska, has brought money and fame to tiny
Roslyn, population 875, tucked away in the Cascade Mountains 85 miles
east of Seattle.

Besides, the residents are so amused by Hollywood's idea of the
Northwest that many are glued to their television sets each week to
poke fun at the show.  Retired people and loggers make up most of
Roslyn's population.

Totem poles have been erected throughout town, and deer antlers have
been nailed to buildings to create a rustic Alaskan feel.  A moose was
trucked in from Washington State University for the show's opening
credits, and about $10,000 was spent to have snow hauled in.

-30-

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I'm the one your mother warned you about: views stated herein are my own.

Would someone please E-mail me the latest version of the Twin Peaks
"Allusions" list?  I'd really appreciate it.
 
Thanks.

Ken Bays



 This is from
     kbays@bluemoon.uucp
     kbays@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet

The allusion synopsis left out my favorite allusion from the finale.

When the bank blows, and the glasses are thrown into the brush, it is
a rather pointed allusion to one of the great movies of all time, by that
other David L., David Lean's "Lawrence of Arabia". 
 That movie starts out with Lawrence's death in a motorcycle accident on his
Brough Superior. Rather than seeing the horror of the impact, we are shown
a shot of the motorcycle, riderless, catapulting over a rise, followed by
a shot of Lawrence's goggles coming to rest in a shrubbery.

That particular scene is especially important to "Lawrence" because it is how
the restorer knew he had an original, uncut print -- that scene was excised from
the original theatrical release.

Frank
steele@athena.cs.uga.edu

In article <1991Jul5.174139.26032@wpi.WPI.EDU>, h@wpi.WPI.EDU (...elihwnaeM) writes:
> > In article <i7DH52w163w@zitt> joe@zitt (Joe Zitt) writes:
>> > >brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood) writes:
>>>> > >> >It was just a cheap sound effect.  One dot, two dots, three dots, four dots.
>>>> > >> >(That "spells" "ETSH".)
>>> > >> That's EISH.
>> > >Wow, Brian, Wow -- "eish" is, believe it or not, the Hebrew word for "fire".
>> > >
> > when was this spelled out?
> > what was the one two therr four dots thing...?

There were "newsroom sound effects" (morse code) under a trailer announcement
done by Lucy after the last REGULAR episode of TP, where she said something like,
"FLASH: The season finale of Twin Peaks will be on Monday, June whatever..."
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In article <1991Jul7.130824.1156@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 01dbjohns@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
> > OK.  Question.
> > Has Bob inhabited the area around Twin Peaks, so to speak, forever?

I believe the One-Armed Man said he has inhabited the area "for a long time." 
Also, I believe 40 years was mentioned, though the mention might have been that
he has resided in the "house made of wood with many rooms all the same" for the
past 40 years (and in the area perhaps much longer).
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Lynch-Frost has put the word out on at least one grapevine saying that
filming of the TP movie will be beginning in Snoqualmie in two weeks.

Hopefully at least one Chicago TP club member will be present for the start
of filming!  (Stay tuned for reports.)

They're shooting for a December release.

(This message channeled from Vickie Mapes.)

In article <1991Jul4.192113.15619@ccu.umanitoba.ca> platt@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:

> >Allusions to other works within Twin Peaks Edition 2


My Irish connections inform me that "The Dweller on the Threshold"
is the name of a Van Morrison song; I can get the lyrics if
anyone's interested.  Also, the phrase "gifted and the damned"
is possibly from a line in W.B. Yeats.  By the way, there's a
respected expert on Yeats at the University of Chicago by
the name of David Lynch.

SS

In article <1991Jul6.034717.5312@agate.berkeley.edu> sally@eris.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson) writes:

> >   When we were first presented the character of the Major he
> >   appeared to be some pompous, hypercritical and uncaring figure.
> >   But in this season he seemed to become the opposite, to be
> >   one of the most sensitive, persceptive and genuine figures.
> >   Now in rewatching the first episodes of the first season
> >   especially the funeral episode, 1004, the Major doesn't
> >   seemed to have really changed. That before, actions which
> >   I thought were pompous were in actuality the same actions
> >   which he has been showing throughout the second season.
> >   At first his little speech to Bobbie prior to the funeral
> >   seemed to by hypercritical and empty, yet upon later
> >   reflection and retrospect that seem to reveal geniune
> >   concern for Bobbie and geniune sorrow for Laura's death.
> >   What before seemed artificial now does not.  In this 
> >   past season his character was develop and thus actions
> >   which he had taken before now make more sense.

What was painful but also comic to me about that speech Major Briggs
made to Bobby was that, while he did indeed seem to be speaking things
that he really believed in, his world was so remote from Bobby's world
that it just seemed impossible that his words could be of any comfort
to Bobby.  What has changed since that early time is that there are
now people in Twin Peaks for whom the Major's outlook and knowledge
are very valuable, and he has made the decision to open up about what
he knows.  At that time, Bobby was probably encountering some very
grim facts of life for the first time and needed to spread his grief
and rage everywhere.  His father had no doubt met up with these
aspects of life a long time ago, and probably much of his strength in
facing them came from knowledge he had that had to be kept secret
because it was classified, and what was not classified was probably
not anything that he thought anyone would believe.

Now that he has decided that he has to share some of what he knows in
order to prevent further death, he is becoming a more sympathetic
character because we can see the spiritual basis for his views (and
are inclined to believe in it, since we're being given a fair amount
of evidence for the existence of the White Lodge).  When he told Bobby
about the vision that he had of visiting the mansion and realizing
that his son would have a bright future, it still seemed very strange
and it must have been very difficult for Bobby to buy into, and yet it
was so glorious that anyone would want to believe it.  I choose to
believe that it took a fair amount of courage for Major Briggs to
share that much of his inner life with Bobby, who was quite distant
from him.  The Major also had to be prodded by Margaret's Log to tell
Cooper about the messages, but each time he opened up his character
became more sympathetic to us.

There has been a running theme of secrets being kept, mostly negative
ones (Laura's secret life, the "hardest truth" that Ben has to tell,
all the extramarital affairs, Leland's abuse of Laura, etc., etc.).
As the secrets come into the open the community is shocked but may
ultimately be healed.  It would seem that it is just as important for
the Major to share his secrets, at least in a limited fashion, in
order to become closer to his family, so that Bobby can come to see
that his father really does care about him, and in order to bring his
insight and vision into the community.

Barb Miller

In article <1991Jul4.192113.15619@ccu.umanitoba.ca> platt@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:
> >
> >   50. "Such stuff as dreams are made of": More Shakespeare, but from 
> >   where? Anyone know?

Me! Me!  It's from Act IV, Scene i of The Tempest, line 155 to be
exact.  The speaker, Prospero, has just presented a play in which all
the actors were spirits (which he had the power to command) and he had
become so caught up in it that he almost forgot that some darker
spirits were plotting to kill him.  He tells the spirit actors to
disperse and makes a very famous speech in which he says that, just as
the spirits disappear, so is human life and all the world transitory.
It goes on very poetically for a number of lines and ends with:
"We are such stuff as dreams are made on; and our little life is
rounded with a sleep."  I don't remember where this quote came up in
Twin Peaks, those who do can figure out its significance perhaps.

> >   96. "When Jupiter and Saturn meet, Oh what a crop of mummy wheat": 
> >   Yeats who was _very_ interested in the occult, mythology, and good and 
> >   evil. Jupiter (good), as shown before, was the son of Saturn (evil), and 
> >   symbolizes the duel between Leland and Bob, as well as Cooper and BOB. 
> >   another thing to note is that Yeats' "gyres" (the two spirals representing the 
> >   two natures of mankind and nature) resemble twin peaks. Yeats' take on 
> >   mythology  informs much of the last episode, and may explain the cyclical 
> >   nature of life in Twin Peaks.

The quote is indeed Yeats, but I think it's a gross simplification to
equate Jupiter with good and Saturn with evil.  I'm not even sure that
Yeats would have done that.  As I understand the duality in the poem,
the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn represents one kind of
personality and the conjunction of Venus and Mars represents another.
(I wrote a more detailed posting of this a while ago; I can e-mail it
to you if you missed it and are interested).  

> >   104. When we're on the subject of classical allegories, how come 
> >   noone (except the Toronto Globe and Mail) has mentioned "Faust"? Dale gave up 
> >   his soul, right? For Annie, right? Sounds like a bargain with Mephistopheles to 
> >   me.

Except that Faust never bargained with Mephistopheles to save anyone
else.  I only recall him being given the chance to be young again, or
to get extraordinary power or knowledge (he also uses at least one
woman very badly).  Now Windom Earle could easily be a Faust figure,
because his powers of intellect are so great and his attraction to the
Black Lodge is so strong that it would seem very likely that he could
have made a bargain with the devil in the way that Faust did.  He
tries to emulate Mephistopheles by asking Cooper to bargain away his
soul for Annie, but apparently that's the place where his hubris
catches up with him and the REAL evil power steps in and says the
game's up.

Barb Miller

I just read (in a Norwegian newspaper) that Lynch & Frost is supposed to do a documentary on the Playboy boss H.Hefner.

V

> >It was made so obvious that the audience is _supposed to think_ that
> >Ben is Donna's father that the big secret could well be something 
> >else. 

Just to add more speculation - when Donna looked at her birth 
certificate she saw that no father was listed, and her mother's
MAIDEN name was listed as HAYWARD.  Many wondered at this, and 
thought that it was a slight oversight - what if Eileen is Doc.
Hayward's daughter, all the kids are his grandkids, and they all
may (or may not, but probably are) be her kids.  And what if she
had some horrible stint in One-Eyed Jack's, which would explain
why Ben so desperately wants to make something up to her.  (Audrey
would probably have had to do a stint if they hadn't figured out
who she was.)

In article <4272@dali> ieevlsi2@ming.cs.montana.edu (VLSI) writes:

> >   >It was made so obvious that the audience is _supposed to think_ that
> >   >Ben is Donna's father that the big secret could well be something 
> >   >else. 
> >
> >   Just to add more speculation - when Donna looked at her birth 
> >   certificate she saw that no father was listed, and her mother's
> >   MAIDEN name was listed as HAYWARD.  Many wondered at this, and 
> >   thought that it was a slight oversight - what if Eileen is Doc.
> >   Hayward's daughter, all the kids are his grandkids, and they all
> >   may (or may not, but probably are) be her kids. 

I had figured something along the same lines, but assumed that Doc and
Eileen were brother and sister.  The trouble is, the whole town would
undoubtedly know it and I find it hard to believe that the good Doctor
could have the respected position in town that he has were this the
case.  But I agree that it would be far too obvious if the secret were
that Ben is Donna's father.  It's clearly something else.

Barb Miller

Psychoanalyzing the finale could take weeks, but here's a thought
to start off with.  Cooper's mistaking Annie and Caroline suggests
a bit of ambivalence on his part about the relationship -- he's
confusing the love he had for the two of them.  Perhaps he sees
Annie as a replacement for Caroline.  But then, going from the two
images of the women he's slept with to the face of the evil (i.e.
slutty) Laura might mean that he's not well-adjusted to the idea of
sex in the first place.  (I'm not even going to touch on what that
means about his feelings for Laura Palmer -- but he did dream about
her kissing him...)  Anyone else who wants to start shoveling this
stuff is welcome to take over...

 
  Here's what the book "Welcome to Twin Peaks" quotes the one-armed man
  as saying in Coopers dream:
 
                In the darkness of future passed
                The Magician longs to see
                One chance heart between two worlds
                Fire, walk with me
 
 
  the one-armed man then continues :
 
                We lived among the people,
                How do you say....convience store.
                We lived above it.
                I mean it like it is...and it sounds.
                I too have been touched by the devilish one.
                A tatoo on the left shoulder.
                Ah, but when I saw the face of God, I was changed.
                I took the entire arm off.
                My name is Mike.
                His name is Bob.
 
 
  just then Bob calls out :
 
                Mike! Mike!  Can you hear me?
                Catch you with my death bag!
                You may think I have gone insane,
                but I promise you I will kill again.
 
  The scene then continues with the dance of the dream man.
  Truly one of the most bizarre scenes ever shown on network TV.
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                                       Welcome to Twin Peaks
                                                       Signet paperback
                                                       ISBN  0-451-17031-8
-jmk-

> >It was made so obvious that the audience is _supposed to think_ that
> >Ben is Donna's father that the big secret could well be something
> >else.

Yeah maybe Ben is not Donna's father... And maybe later on monkeys will fly
out of my butt!  ;-)

Peace and long life,
--Stephen White

daled@meaddata.com (Dale Drummond) writes:

> > In article <1991Jun25.205302.4326@ns.uoregon.edu>, rhaller@phloem.uoregon.edu
> > |> Has anyone figured out the significance of sycamores as the trees forming 
> > |> Glastonbury Grove?

My theory (which is mine.....) is kinda simple. Angelo Badalamenti wrote an
R&B mellow tune. David Lynch put words to it about sycamore trees, because they
fit the sound of the tune. When it came time to do the scene, Lynch decided
to put in a lounge singer, and pulled this tune out of the drawer to have
him sing. He then hacked the script to include a mention of the trees that
were already in the song.

It's kind of a tail-wags-dog theory, but it fits the way that the backwards
speech showed up...

It is happening again.      It is happening again.      It is happening again.
Joe Zitt ...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe (512)450-1916

can someone please e-mail me this list of allusions that everyone's
buzzing about? thanks a lot.
Lynn

lcharris@athena.mit.edu

From the Philadelphia Inquirer, Sunday July 7.
By Desmond Ryan.
Inquirer Movie Critic.
Reprinted without permission.

Peaking. Fans of David Lynch's eccentric and enigmatic Twin Peaks,
starved for a fix since the cult series went off the air, may have
something to look forward to: A movie version is in the works.

But before he can direct a feature about his favorite town, Lynch
has to resolve the differences between Aaron Spelling, whose company
owns the television rights to Twin Peaks, and Frances Bouygues, the
French financier who recently signed a three picture deal with the
filmmaker. Both parties apparently are interested in backing the
project. And despite the rumors about moving the scuttled series to
cable or the Fox network, new television episodes of Twin Peaks won't be
forthcoming.

The Hollywood Reporter contributed to this article.
***************************

well a couple comments:

I don't like the use of these words "may have" "in the works" too
ambiguous, but hey any news is good news. At least people are still
talking and thinking
about it.

can you believe this? the tv people want in on the movie deal. why? when
they think that TP is such a failure and no audience wants to watch it,
and they've said all the sh*t about the plot being stupid after WKLP,
etc. What a bunch of jerks.

I believe that the cable and Fox network references can be directly
attributed to discussions on netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks.

what do you all think??
sharon

barb@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Barb Miller) writes:
> >Eileen were brother and sister.  The trouble is, the whole town would
> >undoubtedly know it and I find it hard to believe that the good Doctor
> >could have the respected position in town that he has were this the

Well, if you want a way round this, remember that Doc.
mentioned in one episode that he personally delivered both
Andy and Dick.

Dick is supposed to be British, at least going by his
variable accent, so for the Doc to have delivered him either
he was born in TP, moved to Britain, and moved back at a
later time, or the Doc. delivered him in Britain.
Perhaps while he was there for another reason?

Of course this all hinges on accepting Dick's accent as
genuine, and not affected.
Bob.

As part of the promotion for the second season, they did back to back videos on
TP and Cop Rock 'behind the scenes' or whatever.  If someone out there is
willing to make me a copy of the TP part, let me know via email what you would
like in return.

-Rich Haller
-rhaller@phloem.uoregon.edu

> > Dick is supposed to be British, at least going by his
> > variable accent, so for the Doc to have delivered him either
> > he was born in TP, moved to Britain, and moved back at a
> > later time, or the Doc. delivered him in Britain.
> > Perhaps while he was there for another reason?
> > 
> > Of course this all hinges on accepting Dick's accent as
> > genuine, and not affected.
> > Bob.
As far as I remember Dick is actually American, probably born in Twin Peaks
but just happens to be an Anglophile as well
Margaret

Welcome to Twin Peaks, according to the cover, is unofficial.  I don't
think they had access to the script, and their writer's accuracy isn't
too hot.  For example, he mistakes one of the shots of Cooper asleep
as Bobby Briggs...

In article <1991Jul11.191620.1@vax1.tcd.ie> moflngan@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
>> >> Dick is supposed to be British, at least going by his
>> >> variable accent, so for the Doc to have delivered him either
>> >> he was born in TP, moved to Britain, and moved back at a
>> >> later time, or the Doc. delivered him in Britain.
>> >> Perhaps while he was there for another reason?
>> >> 
>> >> Of course this all hinges on accepting Dick's accent as
>> >> genuine, and not affected.
>> >>       Bob.
> >As far as I remember Dick is actually American, probably born in Twin Peaks
> >but just happens to be an Anglophile as well
> >Margaret
> >

Yes. I think all that stuff is just an affectation, and that he has never even
been to the UK much less lived there. Closest he's probably been is Victoria,
B.C. That said, I seem to recall that Victoria has a reputation as being more
English than England :-)

-Rich Haller

I just picked up the Access Guide yesterday and read the whole thing.  I liked
the map, which indicated a Lynch Road and Frost Ave.  It's a pity they don't
meet, though.  It would be neat to have a line of dialogue like:  "I'm at the
corner of Lynch and Frost."  Iger has his own road as well.  I think it's in
Lower Town.

   Phil

Sounds like a cool idea to me....as long as Lynch/Frost didn't mind and we
gave full credit and noted who played who in each episode it could be quite
usefull.......i'ld be willing to give a shot at an episode...

Sometimes things happen just like that <snap>.

Personally, Sherlyn Fenn's little bit with the cherry stem still drives me up
the wall.........as for exposing her, Playboy did a fine job..

The 40 years was mention as a referance to BOB/Leland....when Coop and the
rest of the gang first caught the OAM, in his ``Mike'' mode...but who can say
just how long BOB has been in the TP region, inhabiting other souls..

but I can't find my capture file of it, but anyway, How does the number
system work for the show, either post it here or e-mail it to me....

A million thank-yous to the kind soul who indulges me...

In article <UcT6NTa00WBLM10WoV@andrew.cmu.edu> sw2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sharon Lee West) writes:
> > 
> >can you believe this? the tv people want in on the movie deal. why? when
> >they think that TP is such a failure and no audience wants to watch it,
> >and they've said all the sh*t about the plot being stupid after WKLP,
> >etc.  What a bunch of jerks.
> > 

Whoa!  Don't blame Aaron Spelling.  He produced the show.  I doubt very much
that he had anything to do with it having been cancelled, and probably had
a lot to do with getting it on the air in the first place.



-- =Malcolm Austin============================================================= maus@fid.morgan.com | "Art off. OK, I want channels 18, 24, 63, 109, 87, #include <disclaimer.h>| and the weather channel." -----------------------|

In article <1991Jul11.133424.18766@athena.mit.edu> lcharris@athena.mit.edu (Lynn C Harris) writes:
> >can someone please e-mail me this list of allusions that everyone's
> >buzzing about? thanks a lot.

Ditto for me.

News flash from the Washington Post: THE MOVIE IS ON INDEFINITE HOLD.

Kyle MacLachlan wants out as Cooper, claiming he's grown tired of the role.
(Those who heard about his Soap Opera Digest interview knew that he was unhappy
with the direction his stories were going, including his relationship with
Annie and the fact that this genius FBI agent was so far behind Windom Earle.)

As a result, the movie is very possibly sunk, since it's not covered in Kyle's
contract.


On an utterly unrelated note, there have been a couple other shows which have
switched networks recently: The Hogan Family, which lasted about four weeks
after CBS picked it up, and Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, which is moving
to (you guessed it) Fox...

In article <DAN.91Jul12123215@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu>, dan@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:
|> 
|> For some reason, network switching isn't very common.  I can only
|> think of two examples off the top of my head of shows that switched
|> networks - The Bionic Woman (which led to the interesting anomaly of
|> Rchard Anderson playing the same part on two networks) and Wonder
|> Woman.
|> 
|> - Dan
|> 

Taxi also moved to NBC from ABC in one of its final years.
Another classic show...

Kevin H. Klinge
Bellcore
kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com

I don't understand what all the problem is with Donna's mother's name being
Hayward, and her father's name being blank. If Donna was born in wedlock (i.e
after her mother married Doc) then the mother's name on the birth cert. would be Hayward (that's the way it's done over here anyway folks). Then the implication (as it's surely always been) is that her mother had an affair with Ben AFTER marriage, 
possibly resulting in little Donna.

QED.

        Five to one baby, One in five, No-one here gets out alive.

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I don't have today's (7/12) L.A. TIMES in front of me right now, but
it's in there:

Kyle MacLachlan has said he doesn't want to be Agent Cooper anymore.

Despite the fact that filming was scheduled to begin in August, with Lynch
directing and most of the rest of the cast returning for the movie, it looks
like the whole show is off.

Lynch/Frost officials said that the script relied heavily on Cooper. He was\
the star, and if Kyle won't do it, the whole thing is dead.

The tone of the article was rather final. It seems that TP may be over for
good.. or at least for a long, long time (see: star trek).

-j.s.

-- Jason Snell / jsnell@ucsd.edu / University of California, San Diego "I wake up in your room, share one piece of your life. When tomorrow comes We may not be here at all, without your whispers and moans.. Here you come to carry me home." -- Crowded House

In article <UcT6NTa00WBLM10WoV@andrew.cmu.edu> sw2k+@andrew.cmu.edu 
(Sharon Lee West) writes:

> >   I believe that the cable and Fox network references can be directly
> >   attributed to discussions on netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks.

I don't think so.  The two biggest Peaks-Freaks I know don't have net
access (they don't even own or use computers) and they both
*immediately* suggested Fox or Cable as possible new homes for TP.

For some reason, network switching isn't very common.  I can only
think of two examples off the top of my head of shows that switched
networks - The Bionic Woman (which led to the interesting anomaly of
Rchard Anderson playing the same part on two networks) and Wonder
Woman.

- Dan

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In article <21510@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> jsnell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Jason Snell) writes:
> >I don't have today's (7/12) L.A. TIMES in front of me right now, but
> >it's in there:
> >
> >Kyle MacLachlan has said he doesn't want to be Agent Cooper anymore.
> >
> >Despite the fact that filming was scheduled to begin in August, with Lynch
> >directing and most of the rest of the cast returning for the movie, it looks
> >like the whole show is off.
> >
> >Lynch/Frost officials said that the script relied heavily on Cooper. He was
> >the star, and if Kyle won't do it, the whole thing is dead.

I find it difficult to believe that if David Lynch sets his mind (and his
collaborators' minds) to it that it would be impossible to produce a
script which Kyle MacLachlan would *want* to do.  Perhaps the rumored
"prequel" idea doesn't appeal much to him - it doesn't do much for me,
either.

Hopefully, the writing team will take this as a challenge, and not as the
final defeat.

In article <DAN.91Jul12123215@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu> dan@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:
> >For some reason, network switching isn't very common.  I can only
> >think of two examples off the top of my head of shows that switched
> >networks - The Bionic Woman (which led to the interesting anomaly of
> >Rchard Anderson playing the same part on two networks) and Wonder
> >Woman.

The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd started off on NBC and then switched
to Lifetime.  A fabulous show, too . . . .

#dan

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Not-so-clever:  uunet!mimsy!dbk   |  sweet silent sun." - Nabokov

In article <1991Jul12.184800.4302@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK> B.Chapman@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Bob Chapman) writes:
> >I don't understand what all the problem is with Donna's mother's name being
> >Hayward,

Then you haven't looked carefully at the shot: it says "Mother's
*Maiden* Name __Eileen_Hayward__"  It's a screw-up, ok?

#dan

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(USA TODAY  JULY 12)

The long discussed feature film companion to ABC's cult series has 
fallen apart:  A major stumbling block:  Kyle MacLachlan's reluctance to 
continue as agent Cooper.  The film would have been a prequel, but Kyle did 
not wish to do it.  No comment or denials from MacLachlan's camp.  The two 
hour pilot is still to be released in September (79.95, Warner), with new 
footage and a new solution to Laura Palmer's murder.

               Hello out there,

                    Does anyone remember any reference to
               Leland's parents, his grandparents, and/or his
               brothers and sisters?  What about Cooper's 
               family history?  Thanks, in advance, for your
               posting on this.

vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen) writes:

> >I just read (in a Norwegian newspaper) that Lynch & Frost is supposed to do a documentary on the Playboy boss H.Hefner.

Unless there is another project in the works, this probably refers to a
segment of the now-defunct "American Chronicles" series on Fox.  A project
of Mark Frost, it had some great documentary pieces.  At the beginning of
last season, critics called one of the best shows of the new season.  But,
being billed as a documentary and with virtually no promotion from Fox,
it was the lowest rated series of the whole year, and quietly disappeared.
One of the segments was about Hugh Hefner.

Just another indication of the sad state of network TV (and the viewing
habits of Joe Six-Pack).

jsnell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Jason Snell) writes:

> >Kyle MacLachlan has said he doesn't want to be Agent Cooper anymore.

No problem!  Just get Frank Silva

> >No problem!  Just get Frank Silva
 
Some how, i still think they'ld have to have Coop sans BOB on the odd
shot....otherwise even Andy might get a little suspicous now and again...what
with the chanting and all...

-- Via DLG Pro v0.975b

Devin Davidson

One voice chants out between two worlds
FIRE, walk with me

_Get Smart_ switched networks for its final season or two.
 
       Angus MacDonald; idddev@well.sf.ca.us
Opinions expressed in this message are solely my own.

As somebody else requested, would somebody please email 
the TP allusions list(s) to me?

Thanks, PKT

A new "Peaks" book is out, and I'm surprised to see that nobody hear has
mentioned it yet. It is entitled "The autobiography of Special Agent
Dale Cooper -- My Life, My Tapes." It is handled in a diary-type format,
with Scott Frost (Mark's brother) "transcribing" what he has "heard"
from them.

I'm about 70 pages into the book (it's a quick read, like Laura Palmer's
Secret Diary) and.. Is it worth the money? Sure, for anybody who is a
fan. It's pretty humorous, so far. Don't know how it will turn out.

But for those still weeping over Kyle MacLachlan's refusal to continue on
as Agent Cooper (I suppose he'd rather take those MEATY ROLES like he had
in "Don't Tell Her It's Me." Or perhaps he would like to take his Ray
Manzerek inpression out on the ROAD), here's your chance to find out a
little more about his family history, why he doesn't like birds, etc.
I'm just afraid it won't end up like Laura's diary, with "pages missing
(as found)." What a rip-off.

                            -Uzer

  [Twin Peaks has been in the news lately, and we thought our
readers might be interested in advice about where to eat after
a busy day touring crime sites.

  The proprietor of one Twin Peaks establishment made it clear
that your reporter was unwelcome, which is not surprising,
considering the evaluation we had previously made.  This article
was prepared with the assistance of a prominent Twin Peaks attorney,
who has international experience of gourmet dining.
                                                 --- MTW]

   The customers at the R & R diner are as colorful as ever.
In our previous report we forgot to mention one who always carries
around a small log, occasionally inviting others to talk to it.
She usually sits in the second booth from the door.  If she is
not around and you find yourself seated there, watch out for
wood ticks.

   There have been some turnovers in the staff.  The waiter is
gone, due to parole violations.  A former waitress has returned
now that her husband (another felon) has recovered from a gunshot.
She was working for several days with one arm in a sling, which
did not make the service noticeably worse.  The newest waitress
has decided on the R & R diner as a logical place to be after
a suicide attempt and some time in a convent.  The more one sees
of the place, the more sense this makes.

   What can one say about the food?  One of the more presentable
customers has said ``They've got a cherry pie that will kill
you,'' and your reporter has to agree.
******************************************************************

   The Great Northern has always been the reliable place to eat.
There have been some management shakeups which have had an impact,
but attempts at improvement are underway.  Weekly wine tastings
have started recently, and we understand a team of hotel management
experts will be coming from England to add a touch of class.
******************************************************************

   One of the few noteworthy delicacies, roast Pine Weasel, is
no longer available in Twin Peaks due to an ill-founded environmental
crusade.  However, One-Eyed Jacks (recently reopened), a short
drive into Canada, has a well-earned reputation to catering to
the discerning appetite with a minimum of inhibition.

Devin_Davidson@tptbbs.UUCP (Devin Davidson) writes:

> >Personally, Sherlyn Fenn's little bit with the cherry stem still drives me up
> >the wall.........as for exposing her, Playboy did a fine job..

Actually, I was rather disappointed by Fenn's PLAYBOY pictorial.  The photos
were taken (if I remember correctly) by a boyfriend of hers, and they were
somewhat on the cheap side.  I've seen the magazine employ extremely competent
professionals, who manage beautiful things with the lens, and it was kind of
a shame to see the photogenic-as-all-hell Fenn treated like...well, a hunk of
flesh in a skin rag.

Oh, well, there's always her two-page spread in PEOPLE's "50 Most Beautiful
People of the Year."  And I'm only marginally peeved that Madchen Amick wasn't
among them.  One entry per series, I suppose...
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USS ALEXA, NCC 1764-D               at Champaign-Urbana
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"Let's keep going!"
"You mean it?"
--- Thelma (Geena Davis) and Louise (Susan Sarandon), THELMA
AND LOUISE, 1991

fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro) writes:

> > Devin_Davidson@tptbbs.UUCP (Devin Davidson) writes:
> > 
>> > >Personally, Sherlyn Fenn's little bit with the cherry stem still drives me u
>> > >the wall.........as for exposing her, Playboy did a fine job..
> > 
> > Actually, I was rather disappointed by Fenn's PLAYBOY pictorial.  The photos
> > were taken (if I remember correctly) by a boyfriend of hers, and they were
> > somewhat on the cheap side.  I've seen the magazine employ extremely competen
> > professionals, who manage beautiful things with the lens, and it was kind of
> > a shame to see the photogenic-as-all-hell Fenn treated like...well, a hunk of
> > flesh in a skin rag.
a

Tell that to a friend of mine, who is a confirmed Sherilyn Fenn addict. 
He, in fact, calls himself a "Fenn Slave." He will, unprompted, go into a 
long diatribe explaining just how and why Sherilyn Fenn is the Goddess of 
The Universe. "Two Moon Junction" is, of course, his favorite movie. 
"Kiss Of The Beast" is number two for this person. He also paid $20, 
without hesitation, for the issue of Playboy she appeared in. He was a 
little disappointed, because "they didn't show every single inch of her 
body."
> > 
> > Oh, well, there's always her two-page spread in PEOPLE's "50 Most Beautiful
> > People of the Year."  And I'm only marginally peeved that Madchen Amick wasn'

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I've figured it out.  BOB really is Bob Iger.  After taking
WE's soul, he banished him to the world of senseless sitcoms;
WE can now be seen as the head lawyer in a Fri. night sitcom
(of which I forgot the name).  It's the kind of show with lines
like,

I should have listened to what my wife told me.

What's that?

I don't know.  I didn't listen to her.

Rocky Giovinazzo

I'm not really sure if this had been mentioned on here yet (no flames,
please!) since I just got an account again recently.  Lynch & Frost have
done something that (as far as I know) nobody else has dared to do
before.

I work at a large video chain (gee, guess which one 8-/ ) and we get
screener copies of movies a few months before they are released on home
video (not every movie, but some really good ones occasionally.)
Anyhow, you can imagine my estacy when the TP home video came in the
mail a week ago Saturday, and I rushed home to watch it.  There were,
however, two minor oddities about the video.

1) The label which is usually located in the center of the tape covered
the entire top side, covering both windows that one uses to determine
how much tape is left.

2) The tape, when played, was about as exciting as a blank tape...
because it WAS blank tape.

I assumed it to be a defective tape (wishful thinking), but upon viewing
another copy of the same screener, it too was blank...

It was then that I took the time to read what the oversized label that
was covering the hubs, and this is what it said:

"So you think you know who really killed Laura Palmer?

 Think Again.

 Look for an all-new solution to the mystery.  One so
         astonishing we just couldn't reveal it in a screener
 cassette.

'Twin Peaks.'  The exclusive home video edition specially
 created by David Lynch.

 Coming home September 11th."

And THAT is the best promo gimmick I've heard of in years (on the
buyer/dealer level).

-Michael

sw2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sharon Lee West) writes:

> > can you believe this? the tv people want in on the movie deal. why? when
> > they think that TP is such a failure and no audience wants to watch it,
> > and they've said all the sh*t about the plot being stupid after WKLP,
> > etc.  What a bunch of jerks.

Not entirely senseless. The audience needed to make the movie successful
may indeed be far smaller than that needed for a TV show to make a go of it.
And even if they thought the plot after WKLP was stupid, the movie
apparently happens >before< LP was Ked.

It is happening again.      It is happening again.      It is happening again.
Joe Zitt ...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe (512)450-1916

Because of all of the requests I've been getting (thanks for the compliments,
everyone!), I'm re-re-reposting the first two chapters of TWIN PEAKS - Passion
Play.

Chapter Three is going to take a while (I'm fresh out of free time), and this
is the last time I'll be posting these until I finish it.  Also, to compensate
for the long stretches between the writing of chapters, the story isn't going
to wander around as much as it did-- so expect to see little of the
high-schoolers et al., except as cameos.

And thank you for your support.

Chris
----------
WARNING...

SPOILERS may be found here, for those who a) haven't read the Twin Peaks Access
Guide, and more importantly b) haven't seen the final episode.

ADDITIONAL WARNING...

This is a first draft.  Please note any continuity glitches so I can correct
them.






And now...

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                                ^ Twin Peaks ^
                               ^ Passion Play ^

                                      by
                                 Chris Foster

                                  Chapter I

"Diane, April first, ten-sixteen a.m..  I am driving a pea-green rental car,
1990 sedan, with no air-conditioning and an A.M. radio.  If this car were a
cup of coffee, well, then it would probably be the one I drank on the plane
into Seattle.  Once again I am en route to the pleasant lumber town of Twin
Peaks.  Ah, Diane, you have got to come down here and see these trees.  Nothing
I have seen or known beats the awesome sight of Douglas Firs reaching into the
clear blue sky.  Man.  While I am recording this, I imagine you have opened
your present and seen your gift, a Canon EX-210 digital camera and playback
unit.  I'm sorry I wasn't there to present it personally, but I guess this will
have to do.  Ahem.  'Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you; Happy
Birthday, dear Diane, Happy Birthday to you.'  What can I say, sometimes the
most cliched expressions of affection are the best ones.  If you have any
trouble installing the playback unit, Denise can help; she's a mean man with a
screwdriver.  Though I know you'll have no problem.  As you have by no doubt
noticed, the camera puts pictures both on paper, and on disks, which I will be
sending to you regularly with my tapes.  Though I know that nothing can replace
actually being here, hopefully with the aid of modern technology I can bring
you closer to the experience.  While in town I shall endeavor to photograph
some of the people, places and things that, on my last visit, made memorable my
time in Twin Peaks.  Beginning with these trees."

Trees and trucks sped past Dale B. Cooper's windows as he put down his tape
recorder atop the car's dashboard and reached into the back seat, pulling out a
compact black camera.  It was an excellent match for the recorder, covered with
similar plastic, shaped by similar curves, and having a red shutter button to
match the red 'record' button on the tape machine.  Dale held both the camera
and the green steering wheel with his right hand, while opening the side window
with his left.  Then he switched hands on the wheel and twisted around under his
seat belt, holding up the camera to his face and out the window, maintaining
some control of the car.  Through the viewfinder, the trees were a digitized
blur, appearing to move somewhat slower if he aimed ahead or behind the car,
instead of straight out beside him.  He slowly looked back and forth, framing
the shot, while his Dodge Reliant swerved, bounced and careened itself down the
highway.  Dale took no notice of this until a maroon-cabbed logging truck,
apparently the size of Spokane, rushed through the viewfinder, blocking the
shot, accompanied by the menacing bellow of its airhorn.  He quickly squeezed
the trigger and returned within the car, straightening himself in his seat
as well as the car on the road, steering out of the oncoming traffic.  He
pulled out the instant picture from the camera, placing the machine on the seat
beside him.  He looked briefly at the picture, not yet developed, a shiny black
space surrounded by a white frame.  He returned his eyes to the road, closed
the window, stuck the picture on the dash and picked up his tape recorder, his
forehead slightly furrowed.

"Diane, I hope this first picture was worth it, considering the danger I faced
in taking it.  I hope, for posterity's sake, that it won't be just a
green blur, or a snapshot of the end of a logging truck; those would be bad
omens for my newfound hobby.  As I drive I note, with some discomfort, an
increase in the number of potholes in the road since my last visit two years
ago.  I guess that Washington is suffering from a lack of funds, but what state
isn't these days.  In the more immediate environment, in the region of my
bladder to be specific, the increased bumpiness of the ride means I'll need to
make a pit stop a bit earlier than expected.  I was going to wait for lunch
until I got into town, but the Lamplighter Inn is just a few miles up the road,
and an airline's idea of breakfast does not define proper nourishment in any
case.  Though I'll bet you that my 1992 dollars won't buy me as much ham,
pancakes, and coffee as they did in 1990.  But what'll you do?

"Higher cost of living aside, it'll be a pleasure to return to Twin Peaks. 
I've been negligent in my correspondence with Harry, and a personal visit is
the only way to make up for that.  That I was called as a member of the
Bookhouse Boys may imply some portent to why Harry called me here, but that in
no way affects the pleasure this trip will surely bring me.  Anyway, I've
missed this place.  No other place, aside from my hometown, has felt as much
like home.  And now Gordon will stop pestering me about taking some vacation
time.  Is it just me, Diane, or does Gordon seem awfully concerned about my
well-being?  By the way, tell Albert I said thanks for the meditation book, but
I am still having trouble attaining the proper state of relaxation.  I know I
won't have that problem here."

Dale drove on in silence, taking in the majesty of the forest, keeping the car
within its lane.  The blue sky ahead of him held small white clouds, drifting
towards the horizon from the north.  He watched them.

"Diane, in the clouds above me I see a small bag of marbles, a coffee-cup saucer
and a Boston-cream-filled doughnut; two of these associations indicate I should
be ordering the Lumberjack's special when I reach the Lamplighter, instead of
my regular ham and pancakes.  

"April Fool's Day.  Today I'll see how it gets celebrated in Twin Peaks. 
Perhaps I'll even be the victim of an April Fool's prank.  Man, I remember the
worst prank I was ever the patsy for, back when I was in high school.  It was
in Civics class; Sticky Roget told me that J. Edgar Hoover was going to speak
for the whole school that afternoon.  I feigned a need to urinate, a lie I
still sometimes feel guilty about, exited the class and ran home to change.  I
returned seventeen minutes later, in my black suit and tie, to the racous
laughter of Sticky and several of his friends.  I actually cried that night.
Can you believe that?

"Which somehow reminds me -- tonight I must bring flowers to Audrey's grave."

Though looking straight out at the road, the photograph on the dash caught his
attention.  He picked up the picture and looked at it.  It was the worst of
omens; a wash of green with a Great Fir log and a truck bumper jutting out of
the left-hand side of the frame.  Cooper grimaced.

"This does not speak well of --"

Slowly, like thick oil sliding down metal, the end of the logging truck moved
off into the frame, gone.  Then, the woods seemed to slow from the image of
blurriness, collecting themselves into still-standing trees as Dale watched. 
An owl flew out from within the tree in the middle of the picture, slowly
approaching and engulfing the space of the frame.  A voice whispered: 
"....dddaaallleee...."  Dale's hand struck and broke through  the side window,
sending picture into the air and recorder skittling across the highway into a
ditch.

Slowly, shaking, Dale pulled the car into the emergency lane and turned on his
hazard lights, parking.  He got out of the car, left hand cupping his other,
bleeding, hand, and stood by the edge of the road, waiting for the traffic to
ease, so he could reclaim his belongings.


                             ^ End of part One ^

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Next time:
Party preparedness with Andy and Lucy - One Deputy and a Baby - Truman
struggling with sheriff's duties - and Dick plays a trick

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Christopher J. Foster cfoster@eagle.wesleyan.edu or cfoster@wesleyan.bitnet

"It was a big night, all right.  My heroic debut--up against a bunch of
criminal role-playing refugees.

"And me without my ten-sided dice."  -- The Comet, issue 1
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And here's chapter two.
----------------------- 
                                ^ Twin Peaks ^
                               ^ Passion Play ^

                                  Chapter II

Andy was pretty sure that the deer's head could support one more string of
garland.  As he stood atop the small wooden stepladder, holding a short length
of twine in one hand and the end of the shining decoration in the other, he
looked at the five strings radiating from the deer's antlers and tried to
remember how much he had used decorating the conference room last Christmas.
Andy remembered that night fondly; Lucy and he had brought little Josie along
with them, and everyone kept congratulating them on what a beautiful baby she
was.  They both felt really proud that night, and they made love three times
when they got home.  And it was probably six strings of garland, not five. 
Andy placed the last string against a free space on the left antler
(making it symmetrical) and began wrapping the short length of twine around it
and the antler.  The metal hook supporting the dear creaked.

"Off-i-cer BRENNAN?!"  Oh, no.

"Hello, Poopsie."  Andy turned to face the doorway, trying to keep
his hands on his work.  Lucy stood in the doorway, lips slightly parted,
showing clenched teeth; rolled-up sheets of graph paper were crumpling in her
hand.  Andy tried to pitch his voice to sound even more innocent than it
normally did.  "I was just putting up the garland and stuff for the party for
Agent Cooper."  Lucy didn't react; she just kept looking back and forth, at him
and the table.  Andy looked at it, covered with boxes overflowing with party
hats, glass ornaments, hand-carved nativity sets, a Thanksgiving centerpiece,
a menorah and a cardboard and styrofoam Easter Bunny.  He gulped. "Is something
wrong?"

Lucy took a deep breath before speaking.  Andy tensed, as if expecting to be
hit.  "How--can--I--set--up--my--doughnuts--for--the--party, if you have all
this STUFF on the TABLE!"  

Andy took the untied garland with him as he climbed down the stepladder.  "But 
honey, I needed to look through all the boxes to find the garland to put up on
the ceiling, and since they're all stacked up in the back of the closet..."

Lucy charged past him.  "It's IN MY WAY."  She began hoisting boxes off the
table, dropping them before they touched the ground; a few of the glass
ornaments could be heard shattering.

"Lucy, I've got all the garland out, I can pack that stuff up and put it back."

"Don't bother.  I'll do it."  The menorah clanged as it bounced off the ground,
knocking three candles out of their holders.

Andy stepped towards her, not approaching too closely, and being careful not to
entangle her in the loose garland stretching from the opposite wall to his
hand.  He stopped, and looked at his feet.  "You're mad at me.  I can tell."

Lucy put down the Easter Bunny, saving it from decapitation on the edge of the
blackboard.  "Yes I am, Off-i-cer BRENNAN.  And do you know why I'm mad at you?"

Andy felt ever more dejected.  "No."

She turned to face him, clenching a swaddled-Jesus figure carved from Ponderosa
Pine in one hand.  Her words came out slowly, spaced apart from one another like
bullets shooting from a machine-gun in slow-motion; she shook the figure for
emphasis. "She started crying at three in the morning last night, and while YOU
didn't wake up, I got out of bed, PUT on my robe, went INTO the NURSERY, PICKED
UP Josie, brought her INTO the kitchen, HEATED up SOME MILK, and FED her.  And
THEN do you know what happened?"

Andy didn't look up; he was near tears.  "No."

"She THREW UP!"

Andy took the babe from her hand, and looked at it with awe.  "Josie throws up
a _lot._"

"Of course she does, she's--a--BABY."  She had spent most of her anger; her
tone was more patronizing than upset.  She took the figure back, and spoke
while looking at it, sounding sadder.  "And I had to clean her up and change
her by myself, and hold her until she stopped crying so I could put her back
to sleep.  I was up for over an hour."

Andy hugged her, rubbing her back up and down with his arms, still holding the
garland.  "Lucy, I'm sorry I didn't help you.  I didn't know, I was asleep."
He turned her face up to look at him.  "Why didn't you wake me up?"

She stamped away from him.  "I did!  I always try to wake you to take care of
the baby, but you DON'T."

Andy dropped his gaze back down to his feet.  "I'm sorry, Lucy.  I guess I'm
just a heavy sleeper."  Lucy turned back to the table, moving boxes without
causing them undue harm.  Andy stepped closer, raising the garland and swinging
over her head and out of her way.  He spoke softly.  "Besides, didn't we decide
that I would keep my job at the sheriff's department, and you stay home and
take care of the baby?"

Lucy stopped, just as she had picked up a oak-tag cutout of a tall, lanky
Pilgrim.  Muscles stretching in her back, she gave the Pilgrim's neck a slow
twist; Andy cringed at the sound of the decoration tearing.  She tossed both
pieces into a box, and swept it and the remaining decorations off the table. 
She turned to Andy, her voice dangerously calm.  "The table is CLEAR now, so I
am going to SET up the DOUGHNUTS, and then I'm taking MY daughter HOME.  Good
day, Off-i-cer BRENNAN!!"  She charged out the door, but came back, stood
before Andy and ripped the garland from his hand.  She then left amid a cloud
of floating silver shreds.

Andy stood, staring at his hand for a few moments.  Then, slowly, he wiped a
tear from his eye.  He sniffed, bent down to pick up a box and the Easter
Bunny, and left the room, narrowly avoiding being crushed by Lucy's doughnut
cart as she practically threw it through the doorway.

Out in the hall, Andy had to concentrate very hard to keep from breaking down
there and then, sniffing to keep his sinuses from dripping, and rubbing his
eyes against one of the bunny's ears to catch the few tears that leaked out. 
But then he saw Dick walk in the front door wearing the latest in Horne's Mens'
Fashions (orange sweater, pine green courduroy slacks), and he quickly
straightened.  He remembered what Hawk had told him at his bachelor party: 
"Show no fear, and no matter what may happen, you cannot be beaten."  Andy
stood straight, held his boxes proudly, and took firm strides towards Dick,
who was leaning on the edge of the secretary's window, giving his casually
charming greetings to the temporary worker sitting there.  Dick looked up, and
rose when he saw Andy approach.  His face stretched into a wide smile.

"Ah, Andrew my fine fellow, you are just the man I was looking for."

Andy strained to be polite, envisioning handcuffing Dick the the back of the
Sheriff's jeep and driving him to Seattle; he smiled.  "Hello, Richard.  How
can I be of aid to you?"

"I'm afraid, my lad, that you cannot."  His smile abruptly changed into a
slight frown, and his eyebrows dropped from the middle of his forehead to just
above his eyes.  "I'm afraid that I have some bad news for you."

Andy covered his mouth, nearly dropping the decorations.  "What is it?"

"I know that you were especially fond of David Pierre, the man who designed the
window displays at Horne's."

"You mean the man who dresses up as Santa on Christmas for all the little
children?"

"I'm afraid that's the one.  You see, Andrew..."  He wiped one small tear from
his eye.  "I'm afraid that an accident has occurred."

Andy's eyes widened.  "What happened?"

"Well... he was stringing up a giant tennis racket for our 'Sports in Spring'
promotional display, when one of the high-tension steel cables snapped and...
it was horrible!"  Dick bent over, crying; Andy felt tears forming in his
eyes as well.  Suddenly, Dick had grabbed Andy's shoulder, pulling him close. 
"And Andrew, as I was there with him at the time of the accident, he entrusted
me with something."

Andy's eyes widened, and he wiped them to see clearly.  "He did?"

"Yes, dear lad.  Before they took him away on the ambulance, he told me that he
had one last message that he wanted me to give to you."

"What was it?"

"I'm afraid that it's a secret."  Dick motioned for Andy to move closer; Andy
put down the box and the bunny and put his ear next to Dick's mouth.  Dick
cupped his hands around his mouth, so no one else could hear.  "He said..."

Andy trembled with a mixture of fear and excitement.  "What did he say?"

Dick moved even closer, whispering.  "He said... April Fool, Andrew."

Andy stood up, confused.  Dick giggled through shut lips.  Andy's brow
furrowed.  "April Fool?  I don't get it."

But by then, Dick had shifted from a stifled giggle into full rollicking
laughter, and he had a hard time keeping from falling down and rolling on the
floor.  Instead, he started staggering around, pretending he had an enormous
belly and mixing his pseudo-English accent with an imitation of David Pierre's
French-Canadian dialect.  "Ho ho ho, April Fool, eh Andrew?  Hee hee hee!"

Andy kept his fists at his sides, every muscle in his arms tense.  He picked up
the decorations quickly, and stood, shaking, as Dick nearly asphyxiated from
his constant laughter.  Dick soon caught his breath, and stood calmly.  Then he
looked up at Andy and was laughing again.  Just before Andy was ready to jump
Dick, Hawk appeared from behind both of them, holding a used diaper pinched
between two fingers.  He put his free arm on Andy's shoulder to calm him, then
let him go.  He approached Dick.  "You."

Dick stopped laughing, caught his breath and looked up at him.  "Yes?" he
giggled.

Hawk pointed at him with free hand.  "Get out."  He grabbed the collars of
Dick's sweater and undershirt, and pulled them away from his neck.  With his
other hand, he shoved the diaper down them.  Then he pointed at the door. 
"Now."

Dick stood straight, gingerly unlatched his clothing from Hawk's hand, and
nervously straightened his ensemble.  He nodded slightly.  "Gentlemen. 
Madame."  He turned and left, quietly.  Hawk went to comfort Andy, but he was
already gone.

                                     ---

In the storage room, Andy dropped the decorations in the closet, and paced back
and forth in front of it, clenching and unclenching his fists.  Then, he stood
in front of the closet, staring at the Easter Bunny sitting atop a pile of
cardboard boxes.  He pulled back, and with one punch knocked the bunny's head
off its neck; it bounced off the back wall of the closet and fell onto the
floor at Andy's feet.  Andy stood and stared at it, then picked it up and stuck
it crookedly back on its neck.  He looked at it, then turned away.  "Sorry." 
He closed the door.

                                     ---

Hawk turned off the water, took a paper towel and dried his hands on his way
out of the men's room.  Once in the Deputy's office, he threw away the towel
and sat down behind his desk, carved whole from one enormous log of Douglas
Fir.  He had barely leaned back and put his feet up on its side (where the
unfinished stump of a branch limb held them comfortably) when he caught sight
of the clock:  11:14 A.M., time for coffee.  He got up, grabbed a stack of
folders and his mug from the desk and headed for the coffee station.

Once there, he shifted the folders to under his arm to be able to carry the
coffeepot, which he took into Harry's office, where Harry sat hunched over
paperwork, his empty mug held outstretched for Hawk to fill.  Hawk frowned,
concerned to see his friend yet again in his present state.  At the noise and
aroma of coffee being poured, Harry looked up, half-dazed, from his work; first
at Hawk, then at his arm.  "It must be eleven-fifteen.  I didn't even realize
I had picked up my mug."

"No problem."  Hawk topped off Harry's mug, then sat to fill his own.  He put
the coffeepot on the floor and handed Harry the folders he had brought. 
"Here's the local crime statistics for last month."

"Thanks."  Harry inserted them into the sprawl of papers on his desk.  He took
a long sip of coffee from his mug; Hawk could see him relax slightly as he
drank, and he knew this was one of the few times that he did.  Harry looked up,
a weak smile rising under his haggard eyes.  "Not that I mind, but why do you
bring me coffee every day at eleven-fifteen?"

Hawk put on his best "Native-American" voice.  "'Through rituals and
ceremonies, one's sanity can be maintained in an insane world.'"  He allowed a
short dramatic pause before continuing.  "I read it in one of Diane's
psychology books.  I used to help her study for exams."

Harry looked down at his desk, at the statistics and charts clenched in his
other hand.  "Insane.  Yeah, that's about it."  He put down the mug.  "Hawk, I
don't think I'll want a refill."

Hawk picked up the pot, and awkwardly got out of his chair.  "Alright, Harry. 
I'll see you at the party."  He got out of the room, turning at the door to see
Harry already resuming his work.  He shut the door behind him.

                             ^ End of Part Two ^

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Christopher J. Foster cfoster@eagle.wesleyan.edu or cfoster@wesleyan.bitnet

"It was a big night, all right.  My heroic debut--up against a bunch of
criminal role-playing refugees.

"And me without my ten-sided dice."  -- The Comet, issue 1
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In alt.tv.twin-peaks, fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro) writes:

> > Actually, I was rather disappointed by Fenn's PLAYBOY pictorial. The photos
> > were taken (if I remember correctly) by a boyfriend of hers, and they were
> > somewhat on the cheap side. I've seen the magazine employ extremely competent
> > professionals, who manage beautiful things with the lens, and it was kind of
> > a shame to see the photogenic-as-all-hell Fenn treated like...well, a hunk of
> > flesh in a skin rag.

I'm not sure if this was the case with the Sherilyn Fenn pictorial, but when
PLAYBOY publishes a "cheap-looking" pictorial, it's usually because the subject
refused to model for a new pictorial and PLAYBOY was able to buy an older, less
classy, pictorial from a modeling agency, an estranged boyfriend, etc. So, the
PLAYBOY pictorial is probably all you're going to get to see....

HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING ALONG THESE LINES?

In article <91197.143008SMS137@psuvm.psu.edu>, SMS137@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
|> HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING ALONG THESE LINES?

Given the fact that the fall lineups for all the networks are pretty
much set in stone since May or so, I really doubt it.  I'd also doubt
that they'd resurrect TP in 1992 after taking a year off as well.

I was hoping that the movie could keep the stories going, but the 
recent news on that being scrapped has really left me pessimistic.

And what will be killing us all the most is when we see the new bombs
ABC has forced on us this fall thinking "hell, I could be watching 
the Peaks!".  Enjoy, Nielson families - because, you asked for it!
We wouldn't want to make you think, be confused, frightened, or 
enthralled after you digested your half-hour sitcom! 

"I just don't understand THAT Twin Peaks show" 

Yes, Amerika, we know...
--

Kevin H. Klinge
Bellcore
kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com

At a party last Friday we stumbled across an actor who
played a bit part in one of this year's episodes.  We
couldn't recall what he did, but suspect he may have been
one of those involved with Ben's Civil War binge.

The amusing thing was that when they shot his part he
did some lines while standing alone in front of the fireplace.
When the show aired he was amid a bunch of people!

Postproduction editing must be pretty amusing...


------------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@Unify.com

So then is this is?  The end?  Is there or is there not going to be a
movie?  Seems Twin Peaks fate is as ambiguous as the show.

And what exactly is a huckleberry?  Are they any good?

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

we all know that the killer in the home release is BOB
just BOB

it is the European release.


duh.

h.

In article <1991Jul16.161753.13222@pbs.org> mpax@pbs.org (Cool Bean) writes:
> >So then is this is?  The end?  Is there or is there not going to be a
> >movie?  Seems Twin Peaks fate is as ambiguous as the show.
> >
> >And what exactly is a huckleberry?  Are they any good?

A huckleberry is a native american plant that grows well here in Oregon.
The fruit is small, purple, sort of like a tart blueberry.  Huckleberry
pie and pancakes are most excellent.  The plant itself is a bush, usually
found growing under a canopy of trees in the forest, with a interesting
branching habit and small, kind of shiny, green leaves.

> >
> >--Cool Bean
> >-- 
> >**This is not cultural.
> >


-- Mark Sweiger Sequent Computer Systems Database Software Engineer 15450 SW Koll Parkway Office: (503)578-4329 Beaverton, Oregon 97006-6063 FAX: (503)578-7569 sweiger@sequent.com

My wife and I just got back from a really delightful trip to Twin Peaks!
Okay, okay, we actually stayed in Snoqualmie, North Bend, and Falls City.
Happily the locals report that they are still getting visitors from Norway,
France, Spain, and other places around the globe.  They are still doing
a brisk business in TP-related goodies at the Alpine Blossom & Gift Shop.
And the Mar-T (Double R) Cafe is still selling cherry pies by the boat-load
(well, actually by the bus-load, to the people who show up on the weekly?
bus tour of the Twin Peaks area from Seattle).

I was actually happy to see over a hundred postings waiting for me on this
group when I got back (thanks folks for making TP that much more enjoyable).
I was sure awfully unhappy upon hearing about Kyle MacLachlan's possible
squelching of the movie deal (*ESPECIALLY* since it was to be a 3 movie
deal!!!).  Hopefully he will rethink his plans.  If not, I may have to switch
from an avid KM fan to one who boycotts any movie he appears in (sorry to be
so vindictive, but he's messing with the most important and affecting media
source that I've come across in a very long time).

Anywho, I could give a sort of trip report that might be interesting to
folks - I did discover a few tidbits that haven't appeared on the net
before, but I thought the first thing I'd do is post the items and prices
available from the Alpine Blossom & Gift Shop via phone-mail order.  You
can just call them and give a credit card number and have a wealth of
amazing TP stuff show up in your home!  And they are delightfully prompt
about orders, too.  (They were out of stock on a couple of items while I
was in town, but they took my order last Wednesday, and the materials
showed up here at my home today, Tuesday; I get the feeling it would have
been even quicker if they hadn't had to wait for their supplier!)

I have no affiliation with these folks, but they are very nice, and offer
a lot of great TP stuff.  I had even called them before I visited the area,
not to order anything, but to ask for recommendations on accomodations.  I
tried to be as polite as I could, but was still worried that this might be
too much of an imposition or something; however, instead of being short with
me or just blowing me off entirely, they were very helpful and full of
personal suggestions.  I'll pass those accomodation recommendations on as
well if anyone wants.

Over the next week or so, I'll try to contribute a bunch more stuff I found
there and elsewhere recently, including some public relations press
releases from the local towns on Twin Peaks, a HyperCard stack that has
*all* of the shows synopses, credit lists, etc., and a bunch of newsclippings
that a friend of mine had been saving.  Actually, the HyperCard stack is
*very* big... should I post it?  Should I just send it to whoever manages
the audrey.sait.edu.au ftp site?  I'll binhex it for transfer, but should
I also unix-compress it?

So.  Here's the neat stuff available from the Alpine Blossom & Gift Shop.
They're not very cheap (and at least the TP Trading Cards are available
much cheaper elsewhere), but they try to keep all this stuff in stock, and
they're still adding things to the inventory (the calendar listed later
is not on the photocopied list of these items they provided me with), but
is a new item.  [The comments in square brackets are mine. All others are
theirs.]

Alpine Blossom & Gift Shoppe
P.O. Box 808
North Bend, Washington  98045
206-888-2900

** T-Shirts **  Sizes:  Medium, Large, Extra Large   $14.95

1. Twin Peaks Sheriff Department
   (Black shirt with Twin Peaks Sheriff Department log on front)
   [my favorite T-shirt.  they also have white, but I prefer the black;
    be sure to specify.]

2. "BOB"
   (White shirt with drawing of "BOB") Message reads, "Have you seen this
    man?"  "If you have seen this man, please call Sheriff Harry Truman,
    Twin Peaks Sheriff Department.
   [fairly nice rendering of the classic police-artist's sketch]

3. Twin Peaks High School - Phys Ed Department
   Grey shirt Nadine wears in the show
   [great shirt]

4. Log Lady
   White shirt with a picture of the Log Lady.  Message reads, "Log Lady"
   [lot of red, and a bit garish, but I had to have one]

5. Cherry Pie
   White shirt with large piece of Cherry pie.  Message reads, "Twin Peaks"
   "Where pies go when they die!"
   [nice, attractive shirt]

6. Coffee Break
   White shirt with Waldo's empty bird cage on front of it.  A tray of donuts
   sits beneath the cage and blood is dripping on the donuts!
   Message reads "Coffee Break - Twin Peaks Style"
   [not that attractive, but so wonderfully sick and tacky that I had to
    get one for me and one for another sick friend]

7. Laura Palmer Prom Picture Shirt
   White shirt with Laura's prom picture

8. Laura Palmer Video Shirt
   White shirt with Laura video picture
   [actually, I only saw black shirts in this style.  the "video picture"
    is a rendering in silver of the Laura closeup from the James/Donna/Laura
    picnic videotape.  quite nice.  better specify shirt color.]

9. Twin Peaks Logo
   Black shirt with green Twin Peaks logo
   [this is just the words "Twin Peaks" written in the appropriate font
    between two triangles.  pretty boring, especially when the exact same
    "logo" is combined with all the neat icons in the next shirt.]

10. Twin Peaks "Icon"
    Black shirt with symbols from the show - pie, coffee, donut, Douglas fir,
    domino, log, prom picture, etc.
    [close contender for coolest shirt (with the Sheriff Dept. one)]

11. Snoqualmie Valley "The Real" Twin Peaks
    White shirt with blue and green opeming scene - mountain and "Welcome
    to Twin Peaks" sign.
    [probably only of interest if you actually visit the area and want a
     special remembrance.  not particularly attractive.]

12. Twin Peaks - Where it's Cherry to be Knotty!
    White shirt with glittered cherries and Douglas Fir Trees.
    [obviously a local effort.  i wish i'd stared at it a little longer,
     but i think it was pretty oogly.]

13. I Know Who Killed Laura Palmer
    White shirt with tourquoise lettering
    [also a local effort.  again wish i'd stared at it a little longer,
     but i certainly gave it a miss.]

** Other stuff **

Magnets - $2.95 each (Mar-T Cafe, falls, train depot)
          [i think the Mar-T and falls were pretty nice.  the train depot
           is pretty, but i don't think it ever appeared in the show.]

Mug - $5.95
      Ironstone mug with mountain scene reads "Twin Peaks Coffee Break"
      on front and "Good Cup of Joe" on the back
      [kinda plain, but neat]

Laura's Diary - $8.95

Agent Coopers Tapes to Diane - $9.95

Sound Track to Twin Peaks
      Cassette Tape - $9.69
      CD - $13.95

Twin Peaks Gazette - $3.95 each (all 3 issues available)

The Autobiography of FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper - $8.95

Twin Peaks Trading Card Set - $28.00

Twin Peaks Pins - $2.95
  [err, uh, what pins?  i don't recall seeing these.]

Twin Peaks Framable 5x7 photo cards with history of show - $2.99
  [well, these are really just a bunch of different postcards with the same
   wraparound backing that has few blurbs about the show.  i'm pretty sure
   that all the backings were identical.  there was one postcard with a
   high aerial shot that shows the falls, the Great Northern (Salish),
   the mill (Packard/Weyerhauser), the river, the trees... pretty all
   inclusive and quite nice.]

Earrings - cherry pie & coffee earrings - $19.95 set
  [kinda tacky, but certainly appropriate!]

Coming soon!  Twin Peaks 1992 Calendars...
[well, actually, they're here! - I think they are $10.95, and sound pretty
 neat.  I'll let you know when mine arrives (I ordered it yesterday).]


Couple of final tidbits... you can order by calling the number given above,
and charging items to Visa, Mastercard, or Discover over the phone.  You can
also send your order and a check to the address given above.  They have
an 8.2% sales tax, and a 15% shipping charge; they ask that you figure both
of these into your total if you are sending a check in the mail.  They note
that most items can be shipped the same day they receive your order, and I
think I believe them.

Again, I have no affiliation with these folks, but have had nice experiences
with them.  Tell them Netnews or Usenet or "the computer network" sent you
(and maybe me, too).  I tried to explain briefly that I would place their
ordering info on an electronic network, but I could pretty much tell from
the blank looks I was getting that I wasn't getting an ACK.

See ya on the funway!
-- -larryy@apple.com "You wouldn't recognize a *subtle plan* if it painted itself purple, and danced naked upon a harpsichord, singing, 'Subtle Plans are Here Again'." - Edmund Blackadder

Here in New Zealand we have just seen Cooper and Truman Arrest Bob Aka 
Leland. 

What I would like to know is What happens next ?

Does Bob resuface in the town ?

Where does the plot line go ?

How many more episodes can I enjoy ?

Falcone@st1.vuw.ac.nz                   Smurfs are Evil
Ian Daniel CTM                          Gargamel is a hero
21 Turriff Cres Tawa                    Saddam is paid by the smurfs
Wellington New Zealand                  Kill a smurf before they kill you
        Life is not always a bed of Roses but if find one among the
                thorns admire it for all it's beauty

If you can answer these please mail me

Are we all just going to sit passively by and watch this go down the tubes?
When they frist threatened to take this off the air we organized a
massive letter writing campaign, they took notice (and we were dealing
with network interests which were already anti-peaks.)

Now is the time to work on Lynch/Frost.

SO Kyle doesn't like the way his character is going.
Well I think I might just agree with him.  Last night I rewatched the
final episode and frankly his performance was lackluster and forced. I
didn't think this at the time, because I was so caught up in it But this
si the fourth time I've watched it and he's just not into it, esp. the
sheriff's station scenes.  He isn't the bright genius that we first met.
Granted his mind is clouded by Annie, but the Agent Cooper we knew and
loved would not have run from his dark side.

So why don't we write Lynch/Frost Productions, possibly suggesting a
Secure-Kyle-Even-If-It-Means-Re-writing Plan of Action.

I'm sure they could come to some agreement.
Maybe they just need to be reassured how important it is to us.
Then again maybe you've all lost interest. The net sure has been quite.
Is anyone with me?


sharon l. west
sw2k@andrew.cmu.edu
carnegie mellon university

Planned for it, taped it, and watched it--commercials and all.  Not bad,
but not really fine either, in my opinion.  I was annoyed by the pandering
to a "Twin Peaks" audience--or maybe it was just TP fandom on the part
of the producers--it didn't seem to be the script _per_se_.  You know
what I'm talking about: diner scene, stuffed horned owl, stuffed weasel, 
and use of warm-tone colored lighting, to name just a few.  I was delighted
by Frances Sternhagen, whom I've loved ever since her spunky-scientist
role in "Outland."  The patented SK character portrayal--comic-book-flat
in places, sentimental and believable in others--was well evident,
and gives hope that the series will improve, as we get to know these
people better (as we always do, in SK stories).  The storyline is
OK--it has elements from _Tommyknockers_ and the Shop tales, and even
some gentle borrowings from "Cocoon," Spielberg, and Dan Simmons'
_Hyperion_--which for my money, were not too intrusive.  (What other
borrowings did I not notice, y'all?)  I also liked: the opening shot
of the large cylindrical tower, evoking as it did the Standpipe in
Bangor/Derry and even the Dark Tower itself; the guy whose hobby is
taxidermy (even if he *is* rather like Sheriff Andy Brennan); SK's
well-known use of women and blacks in convention-defying roles; Ed
Lauter as the head military mugwump (remember him as Joe Camber in
"Cujo"?); and the fat major in his tiny office, seen (aptly) from
above.

Some irksome flaws: too slow, too gushy in places, too repetitive
(multiple takes on shower scene in hospital), and too many snide
references to "Psycho" (shower scene again, car with corpse going
in & out of the water, and comparison of mad scientist to Norman
Bates).  The medical setting wasn't very plausible: this is a
*chronic* failing on SK's part.  (He needs a doctor to help him
out with his verisimilitude--maybe I should volunteer, hee hee.)

And worst of all: *Must* we have more elevated flashing boards,
whirring tape drives, and flying sparks a la the old "Star Trek"--
which render scientific scenarios not only unbelievable, but just
plain silly?  I realize it's supposed to be broad-brush, but sometimes
SK's broad brush is more like fingerpainting, if you know what I'm
saying.

But I should have listed the minuses first, and *then* the pluses,
because over all, I did enjoy the show.  It's most encouraging
that the powers-that-be in TV-land are beginning--in the wake of
mini-series and (yes) "Twin Peaks" mania--to make more shows with this
format.  It gives a long-winded novelist like Stephen King, a lot
more room in which to show his stuff.  And I'm always game, for
Stephen King's stuff.

And wasn't it neat, the way they worked in David Bowie's "Golden
Years"?

--Fiona Oceanstar

Just read in the July 15th Variety that Spelling Entertainment is planning on releasing 
the first seven episodes, after the Pilot, which they don't have the rights to,
in the home video market.  The tapes will retail at $14.95 each or $99.95 for the
seven tape collection.

How do we get organized? Where should we start? Are there still
enough people out there willing to get motivated?

rah, rah, rah!

(well, it's worth a try anyway)

Count me in....

julie

In article <1991Jul15.151022.7572@risky.ecs.umass.edu> giovin@medr0.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:
> >
> >I've figured it out.  BOB really is Bob Iger.  After taking
> >WE's soul, he banished him to the world of senseless sitcoms;
> >WE can now be seen as the head lawyer in a Fri. night sitcom
> >(of which I forgot the name).  It's the kind of show with lines
> >like,
> >
> >I should have listened to what my wife told me.
> >
> >What's that?
> >
> >I don't know.  I didn't listen to her.

I prefer Arthur Dent's version:  "It's times like this, when I'm stuck in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, 4 million light years from Earth,
about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened
to what my mother told me when I was a little boy!"  "What was that?"  "I
don't know, I didn't listen!"

(No, you didn't miss it, there was no "Peaks" content in that.)

But seriously, did anyone here watch "Golden Years" last night?  Didn't the
mad scientist remind you of Windom Earle?

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There seems to be only one person on the net who's working on a TP novel.
Hopefully, he's not the only one working on one.

The show is dead, but that's what they said about Star Trek.  Novels worked
quite well for Kirk & crew, and I can see the same happening for TP.

(Actually, the ST animated show wasn't too bad.  One advantage of
animation, of course, is that it is comparatively "actor-proof": you just
have to find someone else to do the voice.  Means we can have Dale w/o
Kyle.  Problem is finding someone who can draw Audrey well).

Of course, first order of business involves getting Bob out of Cooper.
Other tasks include: what happened to Josie, where was Major Briggs, when
(if ever) does the crazy lady with the eyepatch begin acting her age...

Speaking of business, how does someone approach Lynch & Frost about getting
permission?

Re going after Lynch/Frost to sign at any cost:

Well, ANY cost might be a bit high -- especially if Kyle wants a "happy
ending" -- but print the address for L/F.  And why not Kyle's agent's too,
if you can find it?

From: jamii@edsr.eds.com (Jamii K. Corley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: ONE IDEA
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: EDS Research, Albuquerque, NM
Keywords: 

 I have to agree with Sharon West, writing Lynch/Frost prod. can't hurt. 
Do we know if Kyle's objections come after reading the script of the movie?
Cooper's character has gotten quite muddled from the original brilliant but
quirky special agent to someone who seemed to be out of his own control.
              jamii


-- -----------jamii@edsr.eds.com or ....uunet!edsr!jamii------------------ "Cotton balls. By god those things will be quiet now." Nadine, Twin Peaks

In article <2s9453w164w@halcyon.uucp> halcyon!hikaru@seattleu.edu writes:
> >fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro) writes:
> >
> >
> >Tell that to a friend of mine, who is a confirmed Sherilyn Fenn addict. 
> >He, in fact, calls himself a "Fenn Slave." He will, unprompted, go into a 
> >long diatribe explaining just how and why Sherilyn Fenn is the Goddess of 
> >The Universe. "Two Moon Junction" is, of course, his favorite movie. 
> >"Kiss Of The Beast" is number two for this person. He also paid $20, 
> >without hesitation, for the issue of Playboy she appeared in. He was a 
> >little disappointed, because "they didn't show every single inch of her 
> >body."

Your friend isn't John Hinckley's missing twin brother by any chance?



-- Bill Downing, President Email: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.usDOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC. 68 Washington St, Natick, MA 01760 508-655-3040

In article <1991Jul17.141913.2299@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Oceanstar) writes:
> >
> > ... The patented SK character portrayal--comic-book-flat
> >in places, sentimental and believable in others--was well evident,
> >and gives hope that the series will improve, as we get to know these
> >people better (as we always do, in SK stories)...
> >
I really thought I could watch this, but the villains were just
FLAT, FLAT, FLAT - to call them comic-book characters would be an insult
to comics (please no flames from rec.arts.comics).  I had to turn it off
after 40 minutes.  Played cribbage instead.
> >
> >And wasn't it neat, the way they worked in David Bowie's "Golden
> >Years"?
> >
Maybe to avoid lawsuits?  Actually, the line at the beginning
WAS encouraging, but when they faded the song into a regular score I
was disappointed.  But then I was disappointed by the rest of the show,
too.

-- Japan is an important ally of ours. Japan and the United States of the Western industrialized capacity, 60 percent of the GNP, two countries. That's a statement in and of itself. -- Vice President Dan Quayle

odonnell_j@apollo.hp.com (Julie Erin O'Donnell) writes:


> >How do we get organized? Where should we start? Are there still
> >enough people out there willing to get motivated?

> >rah, rah, rah!

> >(well, it's worth a try anyway)

> >Count me in....

> >julie

Sounds good to me, you can count me in!

   He goes around as Cooper, dictating messages, pronouncing epigrams,
admiring coffee, etc.  The only one who notices anything different is Gordon:
``COOP, YOU SOUND A LITTLE FUNNY''

I loved it!  I'll never listen to Golden Years the same way again.  I
hope this becomes a typical King thriller.  Pet Semetery started out
being A nice, cozy story about a man, his wife, and their kid & cat  -
and tturned left at Mars rtather quickly.  

Run for the shadows....

-- Brett G. Person North Dakota State University uunet!plains!person | person@plains.bitnet | person@plains.nodak.edu

In article <r0orfgt@Unify.Com> raveling@Unify.com (Paul Raveling) writes:
> >
> >At a party last Friday we stumbled across an actor who
> >played a bit part in one of this year's episodes. [...]
> >
> >The amusing thing was that when they shot his part he
> >did some lines while standing alone in front of the fireplace.
> >When the show aired he was amid a bunch of people!
> >
> >Postproduction editing must be pretty amusing...

Hmm, I kinda doubt his story, Paul.  Any kind of superposition is a tricky
business.  Blue-screen setups require serious pro's, extra time and money,
and there's never any doubt about what is going on.  I suppose they could
have used a locked-down camera for the scene, shot the bit player, removed
all the furniture and dropped a black curtain for background with a black
rug on the floor, and then shot the crowd scene, and superimposed the two in
post using a burned-in crowd scene as the mask, being careful to have the
crowd players never walk behind any (now removed) furniture positions.  Sure
seems like an awful lot of trouble, though!  Any simple superposition of
the same scene with and without the various actors would, of course, show
them as "ghosts", with the background showing through them (that's why
you need the mask even when you do the black background bit).

While I doubt they really had time to play these kinds of tricks just to add
people to a scene, it's interesting to hear any anecdotes people might have
from the set of TP itself.  If you run into the guy again, pump him for any
and all good stories, and be sure to share them!
-- -larryy@apple.com "You wouldn't recognize a *subtle plan* if it painted itself purple, and danced naked upon a harpsichord, singing, 'Subtle Plans are Here Again'." - Edmund Blackadder

Does anybody of a tape of this that they can copy for me if I send them
a blank tape ?  I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks much!

(Oh, e-mail to scb1@midway.uchicago.edu ...)

-- Sam



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Letter writing campaign ...  sounds like a damn good idea (if I may be
so bold as to use those words).  I was planning on mentioning it myself
but someone beat me to it.

I'm not sure of its effectivness, but it is worth a try.  How many of us
are there (here, with access to this message area I mean)?  Probably
quite a few.  And what about all those who do not have access... tell
your friends; have them tell theirs etc.  Perhaps if we can show someone
that we (the viewing audience) still WANTS  ^Twin Peaks^;  perhaps if
we can show Lynch and Frost, and all the writers that we are not overly
pleased with the way some events were handled;  perhaps...

I agree with others;  we MUST have Kyle as Cooper.  No one else would do.
And he must 'get the girl' so to say.  I think Cooper has had enough grief
in his life.  He and Annie deserve each other (by the way, is Annie the
girl of anyone else's dreams!!).

Darryl Friesen
Instructional & Research Applications
Department of Computing Services
University of Saskatchewan
friesenda@sask.usask.ca

odonnell_j@apollo.hp.com (Julie Erin O'Donnell) writes:

> > How do we get organized? Where should we start? Are there still
> > enough people out there willing to get motivated?
> > 
> > rah, rah, rah!
> > 
> > (well, it's worth a try anyway)
> > 
> > Count me in....
> > 
> > julie


I'm ready, count me in too. Just tell me what to do.

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In article <1991Jul18.065811.25195@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes...
> >What irked me about Golden Years was the lack of believable
> >characters.  Outside of the old couple and the female head of security
> >I couldn't accept any of the characters on this show (except for the
> >mad scientist; he's supposed to be unbelievable).
> > 
And how is it that the female head of security knows that the one guy 
from "the shop" killed Macgyver. I was rolling when I heard them first 
call out Lt. Macgyver. By the way who or what is "the shop". 

> >Someone else has already mentioned the problems with the medical parts
> >of the show.  I almost left the room near the beginning when one of
> >the dorko assistants to the mad scientist reverently says "More power
> >than a supernova." to which I responded "Yeah, bullshit!"  If we're
> >gonna fake science lets at least not go so far out of bounds.
> > 
Yeah, and if a entire board begins  red-lining, wouldn't it have made more 
sense if the technicians started to turn off all the switches on their
own? Why did they need the mad scientists to ok the idea first?

> >Sorry, I had to get that off of my chest...as an astrophysicist that
> >line really got my goat.
> >-- 
I was thinking the same thing when they said it also. 
> > Kansas Jim (jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu)

Overall, I did enjoy the show. It seemed to me that they were struggling 
in the beginning. Another poster remarked about the TP atmosphere, I never 
saw TP so I not sure I know exactly what he meant. However, it looked to 
me like the scenes were jumping from one action to another without 
continuity. For example, when the major was talking to old man about his 
eye sight and then the scene cuts to the mad scientist and his machine. 
Now I am not a movie expert, but I couldn't see the reason behind this
change in scene.

  Nancy Rabel     .... ..  KC4IYD  *  The more I study, the more I know.
  nmr1248@venus.lerc.nasa.gov      *  The more I know, the more I forget.
          ^^^^^ or mars or ariel   *  The more I forget, the less I know.
                                   *          So why study.

What irked me about Golden Years was the lack of believable
characters.  Outside of the old couple and the female head of security
I couldn't accept any of the characters on this show (except for the
mad scientist; he's supposed to be unbelievable).

Someone else has already mentioned the problems with the medical parts
of the show.  I almost left the room near the beginning when one of
the dorko assistants to the mad scientist reverently says "More power
than a supernova." to which I responded "Yeah, bullshit!"  If we're
gonna fake science lets at least not go so far out of bounds.

Sorry, I had to get that off of my chest...as an astrophysicist that
line really got my goat.
-- "Coming to you direct from the largest synchronicity hole in the universe, Socorro, New Mexico, its..." Kansas Jim (jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu)

In article <1991Jul17.141913.2299@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Oceanstar) writes:
#comparison of mad scientist to Norman Bates

The doctor seemed just a bit like Emilio Lizardo to me.

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As far as starting this letter writting stuff, goes -- There is only one
thing it can do for Twin Peaks, Help Save It.

However, the net (as large as it seems to us) is still a minor drop in the
bucket.  What we need to do is get this story on the UPI or AP wire service
so that people who do TV columns in newspapers/radio/TV pick up on it and
get the REST of the world writting letters.

I have no idea on how one would do this, but would be willing to look into
it if nobody out there in a.t.t-p has any ideas.

TP Thought1 - OWL = Other World Lifeform?
TP Thought2 - Save the Pine Weasle = Save Twin-Peaks?
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In article <1991Jul18.065811.25195@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
|> What irked me about Golden Years was the lack of believable
|> characters.  Outside of the old couple and the female head of security
|> I couldn't accept any of the characters on this show (except for the
|> mad scientist; he's supposed to be unbelievable).
|> 
|> Someone else has already mentioned the problems with the medical parts
|> of the show.  I almost left the room near the beginning when one of
|> the dorko assistants to the mad scientist reverently says "More power
|> than a supernova." to which I responded "Yeah, bullshit!"  If we're
|> gonna fake science lets at least not go so far out of bounds.
|> 
|> Sorry, I had to get that off of my chest...as an astrophysicist that
|> line really got my goat.
|> -- 
|> "Coming to you direct from the largest synchronicity hole in the universe,  
|>      Socorro, New Mexico, its..."
|>  Kansas Jim (jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu)

I wasn't sure this wasn't supposed to be camp -- after Jim Gardener in _The 
Tommyknockers_, I found he knew more about science (and had less respect
for the modern greenpeace/Luddite crowd) than I had thought.  One thing I
noticed in particular was that in all the places surrounding the "poor" science,
all of the placements within time were removed -- no dated cars, clothes, 
language.  Take away the color and you get a 50's "B" ("C+" ?) flick, no
problem -- the broad-as-downeast-accent characters, the scientist-as-evil-
experimenter, etc.  All it needed was a lissome teenage thing to be eaten on
a beach.  Cf. his comments about "The Mist" at the end of Skeleton Crew, also.
("This one was meant to be seen in cheesy black-and-white..."

----
Eric Scheirer -- The MITRE Corporation / Cornell University
"I got remote control and a color TV;
 I don't change channels so they must've changed me..."
  -- Billy Joel

Count me in too.  I'm tired of being promised things that never 
materialize.  And how about that $30 we had to pay for three lousy
newspapers?  So anyway if this is what you all want to do, I'll
help.

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

   Cooper regains consciousness.  He is lying on the floor with Wyndham
Earle, BoB, and the bloodthirsty version of Laura looking down at him.

``It was all a dream,'' he says. ``And you were there, and you, and you...''

If you're going to do it, you should go all the way, and make it
a publishable entity.  I'm sure there's a market for a "Twin Peaks
Companion" sort of reference work--if not a market for several
of them.  Why let someone else get all the glory?  :-)  (and money)

--Fiona Oceanstar

Charles Blair tells us:
>> >>Kyle MacLachlan has said he doesn't want to be Agent Cooper anymore.

MacLachlan has already commented in print that as much as he's enjoyed
the collaborations with Lynch over the years, he doesn't want people to
think "that's the only kind of acting I can do"--or I suppose, to think
that he's only a Lynch-controlled commodity.  I can understand where
he's coming from: just think what a drag it could be on his career, to
get roped into several TP movies and then thought of by the public (the
Nielsen-rating public, of course, not *us* clever people (-:) a perma-
nently associated with the character of Cooper.  He may have higher
ambitions, as an actor, than that.  Who knows...  I'm bummed out,
though.  I thought the prequel idea was a good one.

--Fiona O.

> >I agree with others;  we MUST have Kyle as Cooper.  No one else would do.
> >And he must 'get the girl' so to say.  I think Cooper has had enough grief
> >in his life.  He and Annie deserve each other (by the way, is Annie the
> >girl of anyone else's dreams!!).

Nonsense.  If Kyle is standing in the way of finishing this story, then
fuck 'im.  Get someone else.

As for Annie, I find her about as attractive as William F. Buckley.

> >Darryl Friesen

doug

Does anyone know about the a picture disc version of the soundtrack?  I heard
someone mention it on Prodigy once.  It has all the music of the normal CD, but
has a donut drawn on the CD.  Does anyone have one of these?

   Phil

So are we saying that people actually like _Golden Years_?  It made me
want to vomit because the acting was so bad.  Maybe it wasn't the
acting itself, but the lines the actors were given.  Take the two
assistants in the beginning as a good example, or the mad doctor.

It came across as a Twin-Peaks wanna-be.  Especially the scene of the
liquid in the cup (was it coffee?) fading into another scene.



-gerry
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