Season 2, Episode 06: Demons — November 03–09, 1990

Can someone with tapes or a good memory please verify:
did Cooper say he was "shot" in Phily, or just "injured"?
If the former, why then did he seem to suggest--while lying on the
floor and dictating to Diane--that he had never been shot before
("so, I finally experience it...this sensation was not what I would 
have expected", etc).

Also, a previous poster mentioned that Leland's hair might have
changed just as BOB left him.....interesting idea a la 
Dorian Grey. But in what sense whould Leland be loosing his deal
with BOB by killing JR?
 
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rcarter@isis.cs.du.edu (Ron Carter) writes:

=}Them BOOKHOUSE BOYS are a secretive bunch, what with their NEON sign atop
=}their "secret" headquarters... 

My understanding was that the Bookhouse is a coffeehouse in which the Book-
house Boys happen to meet.  I think there was some sort of "back room" in which
they were doing their dirty work, and this is where they took Audrey.  Another
poster has noted that a HOSPITAL would have been far more sensible.....if we
are going to debate Cooper's morality, this would seem a drastic point against
him, for the only reason to not bring her to a hopsital would be personal
interest.....

*****

Can anyone tell in what room the horse was standing when seen in the preview?
I assumed it was Laura's bedroom, but I think I jumped to that conclusion 
based on the position of the bed.  Any positive confirmations?

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In article <2163@ac.dal.ca> marsup@ac.dal.ca writes:
> >I have had the same problem. But what's really annoying is that it's only the
> >voice track that seems to be bad: you can hear the background music perfectly
> >well, while you can hardly make out what they're saying.
> >
> >Does anybody else have that problem? Tabor Wells suggests this may be an effect
> >of the surround sound system. If this is so, why does it only affect the
> >voices, and not the music?

I watch TP in surround sound and have never had any audio problems.
However, it is quite possible that you could experience problems with
the voices but not the music.  The dialog track is typically in the
front-center channel.  The music tracks are usually in the
front-left&right channels as well as the surround channel (rear).
There could be surround encoding problems or phase cancellation problems
that affect the dialog track but not the music tracks.


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In article <8bC2Eae00VsnILr10A@andrew.cmu.edu> bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:
> >1.  Who killed Laura Palmer?
> >        We don't know.

Sure we do.  It was "BOB."  Whose body he was in, well, that's a
different question entirely...

> >5.  When will Cooper get his ring back?
> >        We don't know.

Sure we do.  He'll get it back when the Giant's predictions all come
true.

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> >  "Mister" Tojimura is definitely Catherine.  Having her run into Pete 
> >at the milk bar was hilarious!  I'll bet the $5,000,000 check which Ben 
> >gave to Josie is a bouncer.

But wasn't the check a cashier's check? 

Perry Donham
Ed. Services

jstclair@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (John W. St. Clair):
> >TP has many interesting sub-plots, but they never seem to be fully
> >explained in due time.  Is it because we are actually watching the 
> >events of two parallel universes?  Inquiring minds want to know! 

God I hope Twin Peaks doesn't go into parallel universe mode.  That
was the ultimate demise of "Dark Shadows".

-- Scott Amspoker Basis International, Albuquerque, NM (505) 345-5232 unmvax.cs.unm.edu!bbx!bbxsda!scott

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.tv: 5-Nov-90 Re: TP: There, *now* are
yo.. Bernie Roehl@watserv1.wa (896)

> > In article <46805@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00plfrith@bsu-ucs.uucp (To know me
> > is...to wish you didn't know me.) writes:
>> > >In article <1990Nov4.175239.21701@watserv1.waterloo.edu>,
> > broehl@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Bernie Roehl) writes:
>>> > >> Senor Drool Cup- an interesting choice, but unlikely
>> > >Pardon my ignorance, but who the hell is he talking about here?
> > My apologies... this is an obscure reference.  It's the name Albert gave to
> > the room service attendant in the two-hour season premier.  It's become
> > a common monicker for that character over in alt.tv.twin-peaks, and I should
have made clear who I was referring to.

I prefer "The World's Most Decrepit Room Service Waiter," myself.

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For all the people out there pondering the white horse in the previews. . .
When I first saw it, I guessed that it might be related to the Audrey story
line.  Audrey is still pretty screwed up on heroin, sometimes known as horse
or even the white horse.  Not that this allows us to make any profound 
conclusions if I'm right, but I haven't posted anything useless and/or wrong
in a while :-)  Could be Audrey is feeling a bit under the weather these days.

                                    Dave Pawson
                                    dpawson@oracle.com

P.S.  Anyone remember a lame dance song from a few years ago featuring the
thought provoking lines:
   "If you wanna ride, don't ride the white horse,
    If you wanna ride, ride the white pony."
?

I too found Lynch's hard-of-hearing-ness a bit tiresome...
It occurred to me -- maybe he put that in because he can't
act?

dan

> > 9.  Why was Donna acting slutty for a few episodes?
.-.
|C|ouldn't we find a better word than "slutty" here?  It has such
`-' negative connotations, and as it is rarely used to describe
    the actions of men, it comes across as pretty sexist.  (Nobody
    has called Ben Horne a "slut.")

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> > Can someone with tapes or a good memory please verify:
> > did Cooper say he was "shot" in Phily, or just "injured"?

.-.
|A|rgh.  PPPP  III TTTTT TTTTT  SSSS BBBB  U   U RRRR   GGGG H   H
`-'      P   P  I    T     T   S     B   B U   U R   R G     H   H
         PPPP   I    T     T    SSS  BBBB  U   U RRRR  G  GG HHHHH
         P      I    T     T       S B   B U   U R   R G   G H   H
         P     III   T     T   SSSS  BBBB   UUU  R   R  GGGG H   H

    is where Coop was wounded, not Philadelphia.
    <_Jym_> (The Rabid Pittsburgh Native)

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WoW! 

Great clue...Ben Horne gave Laura a horse as a BDay present!
Incriminating evidence!

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In article <2093@maus.Morgan.COM>, maus@Morgan.COM (Malcolm Austin) writes:
> > In article <1990Nov5.055224.28049@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> jfl@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Juan F Lara) writes:
>> >>Say it just occured to me just now; MIKE's description could also fit
>> >>One-Eyed-Jack's:  It's a building made of wood with several rooms where
>> >>dozens of different souls go every night to pursue the pleasures that
>> >>BOB feeds off of.  How about some speculation?
>> >>
> >
> > MIKE also says the rooms are "all alike".  I would think a good brothel
> > would have, shall we say, more variety in its rooms than a hotel.  I'm also
> > not sure that OEJ's is close enough to Twin Peaks to qualify, but could be.
> > Also, I don't think many of its denizens are 40 years old, except Blackie.
> > (Gee, Jean Renault may have wrapped the whole thing up!)
> >
> > I don't think he could mean the jail because:
> > 1) It's only a small part of the sheriff's station, and only seemed to have
> > four cells.  That's hardly "several rooms, all alike".
> > 2) It isn't made of wood.  I think even the main part has stone exterior walls,
> > although I could be mistaken.
> >

or ....

It's the abortion clinic where Andy has gone to rescue Lucy!  It fits the
criteria, and besides, we all know deep in our hearts that Andy did it!

    Wade

How about Double-Mint Gum?

Double your pleasure, Double your fun.

Doubles like Maddy Ferguson.

Doubles like Phillip and Mike.

Doubles like Nadine, Leland, and Harold.

In article <JYM.90Nov7123457@remarque.berkeley.edu> jym@remarque.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:

   > Can someone with tapes or a good memory please verify:
   > did Cooper say he was "shot" in Phily, or just "injured"?

   .-.
   |A|rgh.  PPPP  III TTTTT TTTTT  SSSS BBBB  U   U RRRR   GGGG H   H
   `-'      P   P  I    T     T   S     B   B U   U R   R G     H   H
    PPPP   I    T     T    SSS  BBBB  U   U RRRR  G  GG HHHHH
    P      I    T     T       S B   B U   U R   R G   G H   H
    P     III   T     T   SSSS  BBBB   UUU  R   R  GGGG H   H

       is where Coop was wounded, not Philadelphia.
       <_Jym_> (The Rabid Pittsburgh Native)


A pasting is bad enough.  But jeez, a pasting from someone who
writes with Mock-Ascii-Gothic letters -- that *has* to hurt.


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In article <685@kaos.MATH.UCLA.EDU> sherman@math.ucla.edu (William Sherman) writes:
> >Are Caleb Deschanel (the director) and Mary Jo Deschanel
> >(Eileen Hayward) related?  Married?
> >>> Bill Sherman sherman@math.ucla.edu <<

    All right, my guess as to who the killer is has been Johnny Horne since
the first season pilot.  Why you ask?  Because I had no evidence, and when in
doubt choose the most unlikely character.  I'm not saying I'm right, but I am
at least glad to know that my guess still has a slim chance of at least being
close.  I say this because it now seems likely that the killer either lives or
works in the Great Northern hotel.

Let's look at the newest evidence from the 11/3 episode.  MIKE pretty much
nails down BOB's base of operations as the Great Northern Hotel.  He also
states that BOB has resided there for nearly forty years.  You could interpret
this to mean two things:

   1) BOB's spirit resides in the Great Northern autonomously.  Say his essence
      is kept in an old moldy pickle jar in the basement of the Great Northern
      hotel.  BOB periodically leaves the pickle jar to inhabit a suitable
      host.  The pickle jar has been carelessly left in the basement behind
      some old boxes for nearly forty years.

   2) The permanent host to BOB has resided at the Great Northern for nearly
      forty years, and therefore, so has BOB.  BOB periodically takes over
      this vessel to do his nasty work.

If theory 1 is true then BOB can inhabit any susceptible human host he chooses.
This means that BOB would be free to torment anyone living or working in the
Great Northern.  What human host is most susceptible to a demonic possession?
It could very well be the simple minded and innocent Johnny Horne.  I know if
I were a demon spirit, choosing Johnny as my host makes a lot of sense.  He
would be easy to manipulate, and he would not be suspected.  However, if BOB
feeds off "fear" and "the pleasures" a question remains.  If BOB is parasitic
then one would think that BOB must be in the host that is being frightened or
pleasured in order to feed.  But, one could stretch the parasite scheme to say
that BOB uses his host to frighten and pleasure a victim, and feeds off the
victims responses.  BOB would have had to use Johnny to frighten and pleasure
his victim for my weak theory to be true.  I know it sucks, but you can't say
that its not a possible answer.  

If theory 2 is true then the permanent host must have resided in the Great
Northern for approximately forty years.  This implicates Ben, Jerry, Sylvia,
and Leland.  I have to discount Leland since MIKE gave the impression that
the Great Northern is where BOB resides.  This leaves Ben, Jerry, and Sylvia
since Johnny and Audrey are to young.  Sylvia is to minor a character to be
involved, so that leaves Ben and Jerry.   Of the two I would pick Jerry since
he is a more disposable character.  However, Ben makes the most logical choice
since he is so sleezy, and he was more closely involved with Laura.

My goofy Johnny did it theory still has three days of life left in it.  I am
hoping that the only thing revealed on 11/10 is that BOB is definately the
cause of LP's death.  This would still leave open the question of what
human host actually performed the murder.  Of course there is still many other
possible solutions.  Perhaps LP's killer was a regular human trying to destroy
BOB while he was inside Laura by killing Laura.  Perhaps the only way to
kill BOB is to kill the host he resides in before he can extricate himself
from the host's body.  80 hours till the next episode leaves me more confused.


  He is BOB
  Eager for fun
  He wears a smile
  Everybody run

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In article <8485@darkstar.ucsc.edu> horny@ucscl.UCSC.EDU (A NEW User) writes:
> >
;>It seems to me that a "covert EarthFirst!" Indian would be the perfect
;>embodiment of a "good guy."
;
;No way!!  I agree with the original poster %100.  Earth first is
;full of nuts.  This is the group that suggested that terminally ill
;people might help the environment by tying explosives to themselves
;and sabotaging hydro-electric dams.  They've also spiked trees
;leading to the disfigurment and maiming of several loggers.
;Tim is in Santa Cruz, we've had first hand experience with their antics.
;(they are popularly associated with the sabotaging of power lines here)
;
;I'd characterize them as eco-terrorist pinheads, who do more harm than
;good.
;
;Michael Kaye  horny@ucscb.ucsc.edu


To many of us in Santa Cruz, Earth Firsters are heroes.
They may help us preserve these redwoods that we love.

Now back to your scheduled twin peaks discussion...

--peggyd

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Given everything else going on in TP, I'd say "familiar" as in magician's.

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.-.
|C|ertainly Lynch can act.  I think he did a great job at
`-' mispronouncing just about everything he said.

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In article <JYM.90Nov7122858@remarque.berkeley.edu> jym@remarque.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
>> >> 9.  Why was Donna acting slutty for a few episodes?
> >.-.
> >|C|ouldn't we find a better word than "slutty" here?  It has such
> >`-' negative connotations, and as it is rarely used to describe
> >    the actions of men, it comes across as pretty sexist.  (Nobody
> >    has called Ben Horne a "slut.")

No, he's a sleaze ball - the male gendered version of the word "slut".

-- Scott Amspoker Basis International, Albuquerque, NM (505) 345-5232 unmvax.cs.unm.edu!bbx!bbxsda!scott

In article <JYM.90Nov7123457@remarque.berkeley.edu> jym@remarque.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
>> >> Can someone with tapes or a good memory please verify:
>> >> did Cooper say he was "shot" in Phily, or just "injured"?
> >
> >.-.
> >|A|rgh.  PPPP  III TTTTT TTTTT  SSSS BBBB  U   U RRRR   GGGG H   H
> >`-'      P   P  I    T     T   S     B   B U   U R   R G     H   H
> >         PPPP   I    T     T    SSS  BBBB  U   U RRRR  G  GG HHHHH
> >         P      I    T     T       S B   B U   U R   R G   G H   H
> >         P     III   T     T   SSSS  BBBB   UUU  R   R  GGGG H   H
> >
> >    is where Coop was wounded, not Philadelphia.
> >    <_Jym_> (The Rabid Pittsburgh Native)


Amen.

Can someone please explain to me why poster upon poster has been claiming
that Cooper was shot in Philadelphia? Other than the fact that they are in
the same state and both begin with the letter 'P', the two cities have nothing
in common (For example, one has culture and the other a budget).

And please, please, PLEASE, don't call it "Philly"! Using that word doesn't
make you sound like a Philadelphian. It doesn't make you sound cool. It makes
you sound like a dork.

Philadelphians have aneurisms when they hear people call their city "Philly".
The correct pronunciation is Fluffya. The residents are called Fluffyans.

Anyway, what makes you think Cooper would be shot in Philadelphia? David Lynch
has gone on record saying that the city has forever captured his heart. 
"Philadelphia is where I'd rather be," he said. Or words to that effect.

Eugene (ARRRGGGHHH! Four more years of Casey!) Kushnirsky



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In article <1990Nov6.221741.11999@cbnewsm.att.com> srm1@cbnewsm.att.com (steven.r.marcovici) writes:
> >A few random items:
> >2) American Heritage Dictionary says:
> >familiar -n. 2. An attendant spirit, often taking animal form.

I too think that is the intended meaning.

> >3) Recall that Lynch or Frost said that we have "seen" the killer in the first
> >    season. Unless they were lying (or meant BOB), then Harold can't be "it".

If BOB in Harold killed her, it would mean we had seen the "killer" in season 1,
but it sure would be annoying since Harold was introduced so late.

An even more annoying solution that I haven't seen mentioned would be
Jean Renault, he's introduced even later. Let's see if I can scare up a theory. 
These are just random things that imply Jacques may have some connection
to BOB or the crime scene.

1)  He's proven capable of murder; Emory, Blackie, and an attempt on Coop 
and Audrey.  He sure is racking them up.  Maybe he'll get Hank too.

2)  Likely drug connection with Leo and Jacques.  Family and OEJ connection
to Jacques.

3)  Closely associated with Blackie, who has a clear motive for Laura's murder. 
(the diary details a severe conflict between the two, and Laura might talk).
(by the way, Ben has an even stronger motive for murdering Laura).
Blackie has shown that she calls in Jacques to help her with her dirty work,
she might have called Jacques to get Laura too.

3)  He's at OEJ, which might fit the description Mike Gerard gives of where 
BOB is.  Also, Cooper stares at an owl right outside OEJ.

4)  One of the pages torn out, on page 177 is where Nancy is talking to her.
Nancy is the character closest to Jacques, the page may have dealt with him.
Whether it does or not, Jacques quite possibly had direct dealings with 
Laura at OEJ before she died.

5) Jacques says that Audrey is dreaming of fishes, dark lakebeds and tangled
weeds.  This sounds like something BOB or someone familiar with BOB would say.
Pearl Lakes are strongly connected with BOB somehow.  Probably means
nothing though.

Whether or not Jean killed Laura, some of these points make me think Jean 
could have had direct dealings with Laura.

I'd say Jean makes almost as good a suspect as Harold, both of whom
are much less likely than Ben and especially Leland.  At least
the latter two were seen in the first season.

Michael Kaye  horny@ucscb.ucsc.edu

In article <9011071900.AA14662@gaffa.MIT.EDU> gaffa!jsd (Jon Drukman) writes:
> >In article <8bC2Eae00VsnILr10A@andrew.cmu.edu> bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:
>> >>1.  Who killed Laura Palmer?
>> >>        We don't know.
> >
> >Sure we do.  It was "BOB."  Whose body he was in, well, that's a
> >different question entirely...

...we do not know it was BOB...i still think laura sacrificed herself
to avoid BOB...and if u think BOB did kill here, then how do u explain
his anger in the traincar scene?

...as for cooper getting his ring back, since lynch is directing the
11/10 episode, i expect the giant to reappear...all the predictions have
come true so he must appear with the ring soon...

console cowboy

In article <1990Nov5.160808.13302@athena.mit.edu>,
dot@athena.mit.edu (Dorothy Bowe) writes:
> > Was the reference to Cooper looking like a Mexican Chihuahua supposed to
> > mean anything?  Windham Earll maybe?  Cooper looked like he recognized
> > the reference, but I sure didn't.

Ithink Mexican Chihuahua is a reference to a well-known urban legend.
The story usually is that a married couple goes down to Mexico on vacation,
and they find what appears to be a small stray dog.  They decide to make this
dog their pet, so they take it back to their home in the US.  They take it to
a vet for shots, but they are informed that this "Chihuahua" is actually a
very large rat.

Paul Iverson

In article <32476@netnews.upenn.edu> hardt@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Dan Hardt) writes:
> >
> >I too found Lynch's hard-of-hearing-ness a bit tiresome...
> >It occurred to me -- maybe he put that in because he can't
> >act?

...not quite...he *can* act...i saw him in a movie with his real life
wife isabella rosselini (sp?) where he was a butler pretending to be
the owner of his employer's house...in the end he was supposed to run
off with rosselini and their daughter (?) ...his acting, although not
deniro/brando quality, was respectable...anyone remember the name of
this movie btw?

console cowboy

Bigger 'n' deffer... as always, if I missed any or got any wrong, clue me
in and I'll remedy the situation pronto.

Can you find the two quotes in here that are _not_ from an actual broadcast
episode of the show?

Have fun!

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Cooper:  I'm sure the Sheriff will be able to recommend a clean place,
reasonably priced--that's what I need, a clean place, reasonably priced.

Leo:  Leo needs a new pair of shoes!

Ben:    Leland's daughter was murdered and the Norwegians left.
Jerry:  I'm depressed.

Waiter:  Your milk is gonna get cool...
Cooper:  (lying on his back, bleeding) OhKaayy

Cooper:  Look!  Ducks!  On a lake!  Ahhh.

Sarah Palmer:  I miss her so much.  I miss her so much!  I miss her so much!!!

Chief Norwegian (to Audrey):  Is something wrong, young, pretty girl?

Cooper:  Albert's path is a strange and difficult one.

Albert:  Agent Cooper, I am thrilled to pieces that the Dharma came to King
Hohoho, I really am.

Jerry:  We had those vikings by the HORNS!

Cooper:  Two eggs over hard.  I know, I know, it's hard on the arteries, but
old habits die hard--just about as hard as I want those eggs.

Truman:  You saw a giant?
Cooper:  Yes.
Albert:  Any relation to the dwarf? 

Pete:  This smoke inhalation is a nasty business.  I feel like someone taped my
lips to the tailpipe of a bus!

Jerry:  Marshmallows?!!  Ben, WHERE ARE THOSE HICKORY STICKS?

Pete:  Now let me get this straight... your _entire_ _country_ is _above_ the
_timberline_?

Jonathan:  Blood brother, next time, I take your head off.

Donna:   Romantic, isn't it?
Harold:  Interesting...it serves as a landing platform for pollinating insects.
Donna:   Romantic, isn't it?

Truman:  You know, I should take up medicine.
Cooper:  Oh?  Why's that?
Truman:  Because I'm beginning to feel a bit like... Dr. Watson.

Judge Sternwood:   So, Agent Cooper, how are you finding our little corner of
                   the world?
Cooper:     It's heaven, sir.
Judge S.:   Well, this week heaven includes arson, multiple homicide, and an
            attempt on the life of a Federal agent.
Cooper:     Heaven is a large and interesting place, sir!

Catherine:  I can't understand a word you're saying... you have a thing in your
mouth!

Log Lady:  My husband was a logging man... he met the devil.  Fire is the
devil, hiding like a coward in the smoke.

Cooper:  Diane, last night I dreamed I was eating a large, tasteless gumdrop,
and awoke to discover I was chewing on one of my foam disposable earplugs.
Perhaps I should consider moderating my nighttime coffee consumption.

Catherine:  Everything here smells like fish.
Pete:       Well, you could try washing your socks separately.

Lucy:  All men in the world should be taken to a desert island and forced to
eat sand!

Ben:         So, here in Twin Peaks, health and industry go hand-in-hand.
Translator:  Healt ut industree di go hond-e-hond.

Mike:  He is Bob!  Eager for fun!  He wears a smile.  EVERYBODY RUN.

Cooper:  Did you know Laura Palmer?
Leo:     No.
Cooper:  How well did you know her?
Leo:     I said I didn't!
Cooper:  <smiles> You're lying.

Jacques:  So Leo put the chip in her mouth, and say, "Bite the bullet, baby,
biiite the bullet!!"

Catherine:  Are you an ambitious man, Mr. Neff?
Mr. Neff:   One likes to think so.
Catherine:  One never knows.  There may still be a few T's left to cross.

Hawk:  I had to drink 3 pots of chamomile tea to find that out!

Cooper:  Good work, Andy.
Albert:  Yeah.  Woof.

Doc Hayward: Well, as your doctor, Leland, what the hell happened to your hair?

Jerry:  Is this real, Ben?  Or some strange and twisted dream?

Cooper:  So, how long have you and Hank been friends?

Log Lady:      You wear shiny objects on your chest.  Are you proud?
Major Briggs:  No, achievement is its own reward.  Pride obscures it.

Harold:  Are you looking for SECRETS?  Is that what this is all about?  Well,
maybe I can help you.  Do you know what the ultimate secret is?  ... Do you
WANT to know?  Laura did.
The secret of knowing who killed you--

Nadine:  Ed!  You waiting for those drapes to hang themselves?

Cooper:  I think I saw a rabbit!
Truman:  Snowshoe rabbit.
Cooper:  Snowshoe!  Snowshoe rabbit!

Albert:  I like to consider myself one of the happy generations.

Andy:  They shot Waldo!

Log Lady(?):  Sometimes owls are big.

Cooper:  So... are you still seeing this... Dick?

Hawk:  One woman can make you fly like an eagle.  Another can give you the
strength of a lion.  But only one in a cycle of lives can fill you with glad-
ness and the wisdom that you have known a singular joy.

Cooper:  Wanna know why I'm whittling?
Truman:  OK, I'll bite.  Why are you whittling?
Cooper:  Because that's what you do in a town where a yellow light still means
 slow down, not speed up.

Cooper:  Harry, I really have to urinate!

Ben:  If you will permit me, Sven, to repeat what you told me this morning
after your run--"My air sacs have never felt so good!"

Log Lady:  I do not introduce the log!

Jerry:  Look at what she gave me:   a whole leg of lamb!  You sprinkle some
garlic on that, some fresh mint, that's rotisserie heaven!

Cooper:  Sheriff, what kind of fantastic trees have you got around here?  Big,
 majestic--
Truman:  Douglas firs.
Cooper:  Douglas firs....

Jerry:  Here we have two ledgers and a smoked cheese pig... so which one are we
gonna burn?

Cooper:  Diane, I'm holding in my hand a small box of chocolate bunnies.

Leland:  Dance with me!  Please, someone, dance with me!!

Sarah Palmer:  Don't ruin this too!

Lucy:  Sheriff, it's Pete Martell up at the mill.  I'm gonna transfer you to
the phone on the table in the hall.  The little table, with the lamp on it--the
lamp that we moved from the corner?  The BLACK phone, not the brown phone.

Cooper:  They got a cherry pie there that'll kill ya!

Gordon:  COOP, YOU REMIND ME TODAY OF A SMALL, MEXICAN CHIHUAHUA.

Albert:  You listen to _me_!  While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the
fact is I am a nay-sayer and a hatchet man in the fight against violence!  I
pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose
to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King!  My concerns are _global_.
I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation.  The foundation of
such a method... is love.  I love you, Sheriff Truman.

Cooper:  You and Laura had a fight last week, is that correct?
Bobby:   So WHAT!  If I had a fight with her, if I sang songs with her, if I
         went skipping ROPE with her--WHAT difference does it make?!?  I
         DIDN'T KILL HER!
Cooper (grins widely):  Bobby, here's how this works.  I ask the questions and
         you answer them!  Briefly!  And to the point!

Doc Hayward:  Nurse, I really mean it.  You better speak to that kitchen.

Andy:  I'm a WHOLE DAMN TOWN!!!

Cooper:  Man!  Smell those trees.  Smell those Douglas firs. 

Sarah Palmer:  Laura, honey, are you upstairs?

Nadine:  Love me?
Ed:      You bet.

Secretary at the Great Northern:  The Norwegians are leaving!  The _Norwegians_
are _leaving_!

Pete:  There was a fish... in... the percolator!

Truman:  Think they spotted us?
Cooper:  Gimme a donut.

Albert (in reference to Sheriff Truman):  Look, it's trying to think.

Secretary at the Great Northern:  Audrey, look what you've done!  Audrey....
Audrey, don't go in there--Audrey!

Cooper:  Diane, I've just entered the town of Twin Peaks.  Twelve miles south
of the Canadian border, eight miles west of the state line.  I've never seen
so many trees in my life!  As W. C. Fields would say, I'd rather be here than
Philadelphia.

Jacoby:  Bobby--did you CRY?!?

Hawk:  Good thing you guys can't keep a secret!

Gordon:  I BELIEVE IN SECRECY, COOP!

Jerry:  It's a baguette... with brie, and butter... I had six of these damn
things every day I was over there!

Chief Icelander:  Ben, I am so happy, I can't even tell you how much.

Lucy:  Agent Cooper, I've got a call for you from a Mr. Albert Rosenfeld,
sounds like long distance.  It has that open air sound, you know, where it
sounds like wind blowing... like wind blowing through trees....

Albert:  I've got compassion running out of my nose, pal--I'm the sultan of
sentiment!

Ed:  Nadine, don't you give up.  We'll just have to keep looking until we find
a patent attorney who understands drape runners.

Cooper:  Sheriff, we got a lot to talk about.

Jerry:  I'm in love... her name is Heppa... she's a giant snow queen with a
smile like a sunrise on an ice floe--you could go blind just _looking_ at this
girl!

Cooper:  There's a large group of insane men staying on my floor.

Mrs. Tremond:   I requested no creamed corn.  Do you see creamed corn on this
plate?

Ben:  Now let's get in there and get those cheese-eaters where they live.

Albert:  Mr. Horne, I recognize that your position in this fair community
pretty much necessitates venality, insincerity, and a certain irritating
manner of expressing yourself.  Superiority, however, is not a necessarily
inherent trait.  Therefore, please listen closely--You can have a funeral any
old time.  You dig a hole, you plant a coffin.  I, however, cannot perform
these tests next year, next month, next week or even tomorrow--I must perform
them now.  <drill noise--VEEP VEEP!>  I've got a lot of cutting and pasting to
do, gentlemen, so please return to your porch rockers and resume whittling!
(Puts drill to Laura's forehead and starts drilling....)

Gordon:  WE'VE GOT A DIFFERENT PROBLEM HERE, COOP.  TWO PLUS TWO DOES NOT
ALWAYS EQUAL FOUR!

Log Lady:  Shut your eyes and you'll burst into flames.
Truman:    Thanks, Margaret.

Cooper:  Twenty-four hour room service must be one of the premier achievements
of modern civilization.

James:  Would you like to play with fire, little boy?  Would you like to play
with Bob?  Would you like to play with _Bob_?

Pie-Eating Man:  Hot DAMN, that's good pie!

Albert:  Sounds like you've been snacking on some of the local mushrooms.

Pierre Tremond:  J'ai une ame solitaire.  -->  I have a solitary soul.

The Giant:  The things I tell you will not be wrong.

Cooper:  Harry, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret.  Every day, once a
day, give yourself a present.  Don't plan it, don't wait for it, just... let
it happen.  Could be a new shirt at the men's store, a catnap in your office
chair, or two cups of good, hot, black coffee.

Little Man from Another Place:  Let's rock!

Leland:  Sing hallelujah, c'mon, get happy--c'mon & chase all your blues away!

Albert:  Has anyone seen Bob on earth in the past few weeks?

Leland:  He would say, "Would you like to play with fire, little boy?"
         <flicks burning match at Cooper, Cooper picks it up and looks at it>
Cooper:  That's our man.  <Poof!>

Mike:  In the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.  One chance
outs between two worlds... fire, walk with me.

The Giant:  The owls are not what they seem.

Cooper:  This must be where pies go when they die.

Truman:  You must have the metabolism of a bumblebee!

Bob:  Catch you, with my death bag!

Truman:  Anything we should be working on?
Albert:  Yeah, try not dragging your knuckles on the ground when you walk!

Jerry:  Next stop:   Rocket Science!!!!

Albert:  I know, Andy, I know.  It's what we call a three-hanky crime.

Pete:  She's dead... wrapped in plastic!

Cooper:  DAMN good coffee, and HOT!

Albert:  Oh yeah?  Well, I've had about enough of morons and halfwits, dolts,
dunces, dullards and dumbbells--and you <ignorant?> yokel, you blithering
hayseed, you--you've had enough of me?

Cooper:  Short stack of griddle cakes, maple syrup slightly heated, melted
butter, slice of ham... nothing beats the taste sensation when maple syrup
<CLAP> collides with ham.

Log Lady:  Come then!  My log does not judge!

Cooper:  Where does Bob come from?
Mike:    That cannot be revealed.

Cooper:  And as we all know from experiments conducted during the Korean War,
Diane, sleep deprivation is a one-way ticket to temporary psychosis.

Leland:  Mares eat oats, and does eat oats, and little lambs eat ivy... a
kid'll eat ivy too, wouldn't you?

Cooper:  So Harry, how long you been seeing her?
Truman:  (awestruck) How did you know?
Cooper:  Body language.
Truman:  Geez louise!

Cooper:  Harry, my dream is a code waiting to be broken.  Break the code, solve
         the crime.
Lucy:  (taking notes) Break the... code, solve the... crime.

Bobby:  Bills?  Forget about bills.  I'm talking about a new way of life.

Bob:  You may think I've gone insane... but I promise, I will kill again!
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--
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Autodesk, Inc.                  |  a bad decision being made out of sheer
robertj@Autodesk.COM            |  ignorance, pause, and think of hypertext."
{decwrl,uunet}!autodesk!robertj |    -- K. Eric Drexler, _Engines of Creation_

bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:

> > Not too likely, continuity-wise, since the diary claims that Troy was
> > brown-and-cinnamon.  Or perhaps the horse is white because it's Troy's
> > ghost?

Perhaps... but that would be a horse of a different colour.



*ducking*
--

Joe Zitt...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe (512)450-1916

In article <JYM.90Nov7170612@remarque.berkeley.edu> jym@remarque.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
> >.-.
> >|C|ertainly Lynch can act.  I think he did a great job at
> >`-' mispronouncing just about everything he said.
> >

...boy, if u can't see the humor in lynch's gordon cole, then i feel
for you...i suspect you are taking this show a little too seriously...
just sit back and enjoy

console cowboy

In article <1990Nov7.000341.3028@techbook.com> bobhall@techbook.com (Robert Hall) writes:
> >In her diary, Laura mentions creating a fantasy to send to Fleshworld.
> >She says that Leo & Jacques promised to make the fantasy come true if
> >she does send it in.  My guess is that this is what happened the night
> >she was killed--and it drew BOB to her in some way.  (At the end of the
> >diary she says BOB is "getting closer.")  

I think Laura definately was acting out this fleshworld fantasy the night
she was murdered.  This fills in the Theresa Banks connection, sort of.
I posted something like this earlier, but what the heck.  No one
commented on it earlier, maybe this time it'll get some comments.
I can't figure out what to make of this stuff, help me out!

(from page 120 of the diary)

"When I opened [a gift from Jacques],  I realized that the wrapper was
a folded, torn-out page from Fleshworld, showing a guy built kind
of like Jacques, kneeling in front of a really pretty blond girl.  I think
she was the prettiest girl I'd ever seen in that magazine.  In the photo,
this girl was almost naked with a parrot on her shoulder, and the man was 
kissing her feet like he adored her.  At the bottom of the page, Jacques
had written, "Thinking of you, fantasy girl".

(paraphrased from page 116)
"... Leo and Jacques said that if I get my fantasy published, they will
create the printed fantasy just the way I write it.  Just the way I want it.
I think I will.  I like the idea of a special night, planned ahead of time,
all for Laura Palmer."

In the show they find a camera at the Cabin.  The picture taken resembles
the description given of the fleshworld fantasy picture, a blonde with a
bird on her shoulder.  It's a mynah instead of a parrot this time.

1) Wild guess: the torn out picture is of Theresa Banks.  I wonder
when the police will find Theresa's picture in Fleshworld?

2) Could the guy "built kind of like Jacques" in the fleshworld picture
actually be Jacques? 

3) I wonder if they'll find Laura's published fantasy in one of the 
Fleshworld issues.

I don't really know how to tie this in together into a coherant theory,
maybe someone else can.  I think Fleshworld and maybe Jacques are the
connection with Theresa Banks.  The killer too. :)


Michael Kaye   "If you get the feeling I don't love you, feel again"

> > Watched 11/3 episode of Twin Peaks on video delay (who stays in on a Saturday).

> > During the opening credits as Truman carried Audrey to the bed, he is followed
> > into the room by Hawk, and Truman enters stage left.  Did anyone notice that 
> > Truman was followed by a long grey haired individual?  This person moved to the
> > back of the scene and was visible a couple of times as Cooper tended Audrey.
> > Looked a lot like Bob to me.  He can not be confused with Hawk (both have long
> > hair) as they are both visible in the same shot.

The long-haired person in the background is Joey Paulsen, and is named in the
credits at the end of the show.  We hear him say he's gotten everything ready.

The man who carried Audrey to the bed was NOT Truman, is was an unnamed
Bookhouse Boy.

-- lmolpus@next.com

In article <1990Nov5.162050.24704@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, broehl@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Bernie Roehl) writes...

}Cooper- gifted
}Sarah- gifted
}Laura- both
}Phillip Gerard- damned
}Ronette- damned
}Leland- ??????

You forgot Maddy.

-- "Good thing you guys can't keep a secret." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <1990Nov4.091559.2870@odin.corp.sgi.com>, bam@rudedog.asd.sgi.com (Brian McClendon) writes...

} Gordon's comment about the pages of the diary at the train car seems to
} be yet another one of those facts that is heard by the audience but
} forgotten by the characters.

Not necessarily. I believe that Donna heard him, and that was the reason
for the strange look she had when she came out of the room.

-- "Good thing you guys can't keep a secret." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <31570010@hpsmpk.HP.COM>, collier@hpsmpk.HP.COM (Mark Collier) writes...

} I've been aware that each episode of Twin Peaks basically covers the
} events of one day. Hill Street Blues (which Mark Frost had a hand in)
} followed the same principle. Have there been any exceptions in Twin
} Peaks so far? Could someone post a list of episodes which shows what
} major events occurred on what days?

I suppose I might as well re-post my Timeline, it having been a few months
since I last did so. It, however, only covers the First Season. I haven't
had time to take the notes on the Second Season episodes.

****************************************************************************

                  Introduction for TP "first-timers"

Back during the first run of TP in the spring, there were many arguments
here concerning the chronology of events -- what happened when in relation
to what else?  And so, I was inspired to create this timeline, which puts
all events shown or referred to in their proper chronological sequence.

I posted a few versions of this Timeline, adding to it as each episode
revealed new information. I stopped a couple of episodes short of the
entire first run, mainly due to shortage of time, but also because the
ending of the season made a final update seem less compelling. I decided
to refrain from posting it during the summer reruns so as not to spoil
things for the First-Timers. Here is the final update through the end of
the First Season. I've also noted items from the audio tape "DIANE..." THE
TWIN PEAKS TAPE OF AGENT COOPER, which include reports, with timestamps,
not mentioned on the show itself. Any time notations taken from this tape
rather than any of the televised episodes are flagged with an asterisk.
Notes indicate where such entries may conflict with the episodes. I have
decided against entering items from THE SECRET DIARY OF LAURA PALMER, which
conflicts much more than the "DIANE..." does.

Whether I will continue this during the Second Season remains to be seen.
I will most likely do so after the Season Premiere, but after that...?

****************************************************************************

                    DANGER! DANGER! WILL ROBINSON

There are entries from "DIANE..." that cover the morning after the First
Season Finale. Some of these may be considered spoilers, so be warned.

****************************************************************************

Note 1: The series is set in February/March of 1989, so all dates are
        assumed to be for that year unless otherwise specified. THE
        SECRET DIARY OF LAURA PALMER, it should be noted, moves events
        up a year to 1990.

Note 2: The show seems to be relatively consistent in advancing one day
        with each episode. There are a couple of minor exceptions in which
        an episode starts off where the previous one left off before going
        on to the next day. The major exception is the final episode, which
        in its entirety takes place on the same night as the previous one.

Note 3: Parenthetical comments, such as "Harry to Cooper" following day or
        time notations indicate how the time of the event was determined.
        The notation "Cooper to Diane" is intended to mean his dictations
        into his tape recorder. Lengthier notes of how the time was
        determined follow the entry.

****************************************************************************

1983 ("Six years ago" - Truman to Cooper)
   -- Andrew Packard brings Josie over from Hong Kong to be his wife.

August 1987 (approximately)
   -- Andrew Packard dies, supposedly in a boating accident. Truman first
      tells Cooper that Packard died "last year", which would have been
      1988, but later tells him that it happened "a year-and-a-half ago".
      This latter is more probably correct, given the following...
   -- Hank Jennings "accidently" kills an unnamed vagrant, is convicted
      of vehicular manslaughter, and sent to jail. (He's said to have
      spent 18 months in jail.)

08 Feb 1988
   -- Teresa Banks murdered in southwest corner of Washington state.
   -- Leo Johnson incarcerated in Hungry Horse, Montana on assault charges.

05 Feb 1989 (Sunday) or
06 Feb (Monday)
   -- "Day One" (entry in Laura's diary). Day One of what? Laura and
      James' relationship is my guess. During Cooper's questioning of
      James, he asked what happened on 2/5, and James flashed back on
      the time he gave Laura the locket. On the other hand, when Cooper
      is looking at this page in the diary, the date at the top of the
      page says February 6. Cooper did say to Diane that he had flipped
      back 18 days to "Day One". That could be 18 days from 2/23 (the
      last entry in the diary), yielding the 5th, or from 2/24 (the day
      he was looking at it), yielding the 6th.

12 Feb (Sunday)
   -- The picnic (James told Cooper that it was "two Sundays ago").

23 Feb (Thursday)

   05:00 PM (Josie to Cooper and Truman)
   -- Laura arrives at Josie Packard's for Josie's English lessons.
      Josie says that Laura left an hour later.

   Sometime after dinner
   -- Last entry in Laura's diary: "Nervous about meeting J. tonight."
      (After dinner because she remarks about having asparagus for
      dinner again.)

   09:00-9:30
   -- Laura returns home from Bobby's house. (Sarah Palmer tells Truman
      that she last saw Laura when she got home about 9:00. Bobby answers
      yes when Cooper asks him, "She was studying at your house until
      about 9:30. Isn't that right?")

   09:30
   -- Laura snuck out of her house (James to Cooper).

   12:30
   -- Laura jumps off James' bike and runs off (James to Cooper).

   12:00-04:00 (AM)
   -- Estimated time of Laura's death according to the preliminary autopsy.

   01:00 (approx) (Cooper to others)
   -- Leo, Laura, Jacques, and Ronnette arrive at Jacques' cabin for fun
      and games.

24 Feb (Friday)  [Episode #0 (pilot) - 4/8,8/5]

   "Just after dawn" (Harry to Bobby)
   -- Pete Martell finds Laura's body.
   -- Ben and Leland have meeting with Norwegians.
   -- Bobby takes Shelly home, then goes to school and is arrested.

   Before 8:00  [Cooper was put on the case prior to this time]
   -- Ronnette announced as missing, then found wandering along tracks.

 * 08:00 (Cooper to Diane)
 * -- Cooper gets case to investigate in Twin Peaks

 * 09:00 (Cooper to Diane)
 * -- Cooper boards plane in Seattle
   -- Nadine sends Big Ed off to get the drapes ("They said those drapes
      would be ready by 10.")

 * 10:15-10:30 (Cooper to Diane)
 * -- Cooper lands in Spokane, picks up car at FBI branch.

   11:30 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper enters Twin Peaks.

   Noon/early afternoon
   -- Cooper & Truman check on Ronnette, then Laura. ["DIANE..." says Cooper
      meets Truman at 3:10 PM, which seems awfully late, since he arrived in
      Twin Peaks at 11:30. What did he do in the meantime?]
   -- Cooper & Truman look through Laura's diary.
   -- Andy and team find the train car.
   -- Cooper & Truman question Bobby, then Donna.

   04:00 (approx)
   -- "The Norwegians are leaving!" (one of Ben's employees tells concierge
      that Ben would be back at 4:00 for the final signing of the deal with
      the Norwegians, and Ben arrives as the Norwegians are leaving)

   04:10 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper & Truman at the train car.

 * 09:00 (approx) (Cooper to Diane, reports on event after the fact at 9:30)
   -- Town meeting where Cooper addresses the community leaders.

   09:30 (approx)
   -- Donna sneaks out to meet James at the Roadhouse. Big Ed to meet Norma
      there as well. Fight breaks out, Joey Paulsen takes Donna to meet
      James. J&D bury the locket. James is arrested.

   12:28 AM (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper knocks off for the night. Harry goes to see Josie. Locket is
      dug up by Person Unknown [who we discover later to be Dr. Jacoby]

25 Feb (Saturday)  [Episode #1 - 4/12,8/11]

   06:18 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper is up and goes to breakfast, where he meets Audrey.

   Early to mid-morning
   -- Cooper & Truman get autopsy results from Dr. Hayward.
   -- Shelly discovers Leo's shirt is soaked with blood just before going
      to work.
   -- Cooper & Truman question James.
   -- Mike & Bobby talk in jail cell (Leo called Mike "yesterday" and Bobby
      met with Leo "the night Laura died").
   -- Cooper gets call from Albert, Harry & Ed discuss the "stakeout".

 * 11:00 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- James released into Ed's custody, Mike and Bobby released.

 * 11:17 (Cooper to Diane) -- "Just barely morning" (Pete to Josie)
   -- Cooper & Truman talk to Josie; Pete finds a fish in the percolator.
   -- Catherine & Ben have a rendezvous.

   Afternoon
   -- Donna visits Palmers and Sarah has vision of Killer Bob.

   Late afternoon/early evening (exterior shot is dark)
   -- Hawk questions Pulaskis, spots One-Armed Man.
   -- Bobby and Major Briggs have words over dinner

 * 07:00 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper & Truman encounter Log Lady at RR.
   -- Jenny's first day at One-Eyed Jack's [not shown, but mentioned later].

   Later in evening
   -- Shelly gets home, gets beaten by Leo.
   -- James has dinner at Haywards'.
   -- Jacoby listens to tape from Laura, takes out the half of the locket
      buried by James & Donna.
   -- Bob Lydecker assaulted outside a bar in Lowtown, a section of Twin
      Peaks [not shown, but mentioned later].

Saturday Evening (continued)  [Episode #2 - 4/19,8/18]
   -- Jerry Horne gets back from Paris. He and Ben go to One-Eyed Jack's.

   Midnight (clock at Haywards')
   -- James & Donna have their heart-to-heart.
   -- Hawk calls Cooper.
   -- Audrey slips note under Cooper's door. ["DIANE..." places this at
      approximately 11:30]
   -- Bobby & Mike meet with Leo in the woods.

26 Feb (Sunday)  [still Episode #2]

   Morning
   -- Ed drops grease on Nadine's drape runners. Nadine's arms bend back.
   -- Cooper teaches Harry, Hawk, Andy, & Lucy about Tibet.
   -- Shelly turns off "Invitation to Love" (a soap opera on Sunday
      morning?!) and Bobby comes visiting.

   Late morning (after church)
   -- Haywards meet Audrey in the RR.

   Afternoon ("Are we going to have to stand here all afternoon?" Albert
              to Lucy)
   -- Albert and team arrive.

   Night
   -- Nadine ecstatic about her now-silent runners.
   -- Pete & Catherine talk. Pete sneaks safe key to Josie.
   -- Josie finds two ledgers in safe.
   -- Leland has breakdown to the strains of Glen Miller.

 * 01:18 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper retires and dreams of dancing dwarves and doppelgangers.

27 Feb (Monday)  [Episode #3 - 4/26,8/25]

   07:15 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper meets with Audrey over breakfast, then tells Harry & Lucy
      about his dream.

   Mid to late morning(?)
   -- Cousin Madeleine arrives.
   -- Norma is told of Hank's pending parole.
   -- Cooper & Truman talk to Leo.
   -- Bobby and father have words again.

   12:27 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper & Truman leave for funeral after Albert's autopsy report.
   -- Ed & Nadine have quiet moment, James declines to go to funeral.
   -- Audrey checks on her family through a peephole.

   Early afternoon
   -- Laura's funeral. James and Bobby fight. Leland freaks out.

   Evening
   -- Shelly demonstrates Leland's coffin ride.
   -- Cooper meets the Bookhouse Boys, and they question Bernard Renault
      at the Bookhouse.
   -- Jacques calls Leo for help.
   -- Catherine eavesdrops on Josie & Harry. Josie shows Harry the safe,
      but one of the ledgers is missing -- Catherine has the other one.

 * 12:01 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper meets Jacoby at the cemetary, then meets Hawk at the Roadhouse.
      The two of them take a drunken Leland home.

28 Feb (Tuesday)  [Episode #4 - 5/3,9/1]

   Morning
   -- Andy sketches Killer Bob from Sarah Palmer's description. Sarah
      then describes her vision of a someone digging up the necklace.
   -- Cooper questions Jacoby
   -- Hawk tracks down the One-Armed Man to Timber Falls Motel, where at
      the same time, Ben and Catherine are having a rendezvous. Josie is
      there, staking out B&C.
   -- Bernard Renault makes bail [not shown, but mentioned later].

 * 01:00 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper and the boys arrive and question Philip Michael Gerard
      (the One-Armed Man).
   -- Audrey gets Donna to agree to help her solve the mystery of Laura's
      murder.
   -- Norma goes to husband Hank's parole meeting.
   -- Cooper and the boys visit the Lydecker Clinic and confiscate files.
   -- Bobby has rendezvous with Shelly, and she gives him Leo's bloody shirt.

 * 03:00 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper, Harry, Hawk, and Andy practice in the shooting range, work
      on Lydecker files, and get Albert's final report.

   Late afternoon/early evening
   -- James runs into Madeleine Ferguson at the RR diner.
   -- Norma gets a call from the prison -- Hank is being paroled.
   -- Ben talks to Jerry about some Icelanders, and then Audrey talks to
      Ben about learning the family business by starting work at the
      department store.
   -- A fax arrives from Albert with a reconstruction of the plastic piece
      found in Laura's stomach. Andy comes across the file on Waldo, a
      mynah bird belonging to Jacques Renault. The cops race to Jacques
      apartment. They find Leo's bloody shirt there, planted by Bobby.
      ["DIANE..." places this at 11:19 PM, which seems far too late.]

   Evening
   -- Ben meets Leo by the river and they make plans about setting fire
      to the Mill. Bernard Renault's body is lying on the ground; Leo
      confesses to killing him, and reports that frere Jacques is hiding
      out in Canada.
   -- James and Donna go to where they buried the necklace and find it
      missing.
   -- Pete chats with Josie, then retires. She gets call from Hank Jennings.

01 Mar (Wednesday)  [Episode #5 - 5/10,9/8]

   04:28 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper is woken up by singing Icelanders.

   Day (there's no convenient times of day mentioned to assign to events)
   -- Cooper meets Audrey in the hotel restaurant
   -- Ben & Jerry discuss the Sons of Odin.
   -- Coop meets Harry & Andy at Jacques Renault's place. The blood on Leo's
      shirt is determined to be blood-type AB-negative, which does not match
      Laura's, though it does match Jacques'.
   -- Bobby has breakfast at Shelly's; Andy comes looking for Leo; Leo calls.
   -- Norma drops by Big Ed's and they agree to cool their relationship for
      a while.
   -- Audrey has her job interview at daddy's store.
   -- James and Donna meet.
   -- Coop discovers Laura's ad in FLESH WORLD.
   -- Madeleine meets with James & Donna at the RR and agrees to help them.
   -- Hank, now out on parole, shows up at the RR to start work.
   -- The Briggs family goes to see Dr. Jacoby.
   -- Coop, Harry, Hawk, and Doc Hayward go hiking, and find the Log Lady's
      cabin. Coop interrogates the log.

   04:00 (cuckoo clock)
   -- Coop, Harry, Hawk, and Doc find Jacques' cabin, and discover clues
      given to Coop in his dream.

   Evening
   -- Party at the Great Northern for the Icelanders. Ben & Catherine meet
      in private, Audrey eavesdrops. Leland Palmer freaks out to music.
   -- Madeleine calls Donna; she found a tape of Laura's.
   -- Back at the party, Ben surreptitiously meets with Josie.
   -- Leo gets home and is beat up on by Hank Jennings. Leo gets pissed at
      Shelly, who pulls out her gun and shoots Leo.

 * 01:00 (approx) (Cooper to Diane, at 03:00)
   -- Coop arrives back at his room at the Great Northern, only to find
      Audrey in his bed.

Wednesday Night (continued)  [Episode #6 - 5/17,9/8]
   -- Coop has a talk (and that's all) with Audrey.

02 Mar (Thursday)  [still Episode #6]

   Morning
   -- Andy arrives at the station, and Lucy gets a call from a doctor.
   -- Cooper, Harry, and Doc Hayward are trying to get Waldo to speak.
   -- Hawk shows up with a forensics report on Jacques cabin, and says
      that Jacques is now working as a dealer at One-Eyed Jack's.

 * 01:00 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper dictates suspicions about Josie.

   Afternoon (presumably, as various of the teenagers are not in school)
   -- Leo spots Bobby arriving at his house to see Shelly. He then takes
      off when he hears on the police band radio about Waldo.
   -- Maddy, Donna, and James listen to the tape that Maddy found. They
      plot to get the missing tape (from the night Laura died) that they
      believe Jacoby has.
   -- Audrey and another girl, Jenny, are working the perfume counter at
      Horne's Department Store. Audrey hides in Battis' (the manager's)
      office to listen in on his conversation with Jenny concerning her
      sideline work at One-Eyed Jack's.
   -- At the Double-R Diner, Hank palms a lighter that a customer left
      behind (the significance of this we still don't know). Harry comes
      in with Cooper and warns Hank to keep clean.
   -- Nadine is home watching "Invitation to Love" and feeling miserable
      because the patent attorney she went to didn't like her drape runner
      idea. Big Ed comes in and comforts her, encouraging her to keep trying.
   -- Harry stops by at Josie's and asks about her being at the Timber
      Falls Motel on Tuesday. First she tries to deny it, but then tells
      him about Ben & Catherine and about overhearing Catherine's plan to
      burn the Mill.

   Evening (Cooper to Harry)
   -- Harry and Big Ed rendezvous with Cooper at the hotel. Harry tells
      Cooper about Josie's problem. Coop seems suspicious. Audrey shows
      up looking for Cooper just as they left.
   -- Mr. Neff, an insurance agent, shows up at Catherine's. Catherine
      finds her bogus ledgerbook missing.
   -- Audrey leaves a note for Cooper under his door, and notices an Asian
      man checking in a couple of doors down from Cooper.
   -- Leo shoots Waldo and drives off; but not before Waldo's last words
      are recorded on Cooper's voice-activated tape recorder. Cooper plays
      back the recording.

 * 09:00 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper & Ed show up at OEJ posing as "Fred & Barney" and meet Blackie.
      Ed craps, Cooper jacks.
   -- Maddy sneaks out of the Palmer house, though she is seen by Leland,
      to meet up with James and Donna.
   -- Ben sends Jerry off with the Icelanders to OEJ for a "signing party"
      for the Ghostwood deal. Ben calls Josie about Catherine.
   -- Audrey meets Blackie and is hired for a job at OEJ.
   -- Jacques relieves the previous dealer at the blackjack table where
      Cooper is playing.
   -- Dr. Jacoby is watching "Invitation to Love" on tv when he gets a call
      from "Laura". At the gazebo, where Maddy -- disguised as Laura -- is
      waiting with James & Donna, and Bobby Briggs is watching them, the
      whole tableux is being watched by a mysterious "heavy breather".
   -- Jacoby takes off to find out what's going on with "Laura" while James
      and Donna sneak into his office to search for the missing tape. Bobby
      has followed them there and sticks a bag of (presumably cocaine) in
      the gas tank of James' bike.

Thursday Night (continued)  [Episode #7 - 5/23,9/15]

   -- James and Donna find the tape, take off to pick up Maddy at gazebo.
   -- Jacoby watching "Laura" [Maddy], is attacked by a masked man, and has
      heart attack.
   -- Cooper chats with Jacques.
   -- Audrey prepares for her night at One-Eyed Jack's.

 * 11:00 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Jacques and Cooper leave (separately) One-Eyed Jack's to rendezvous
      at water processing plant on Black Lake
   -- Leo grabs Shelly
   -- Police grab Jacques
   -- Doc Hayward gets called to attend Jacques at hospital. James, Donna,
      and Maddy listen to the tape.

   03:15 (AM) (approx) [working backward from start of fire]
   -- Leo sets up fire to start in "about one hour".
   -- Nadine pops pills
   -- Hank lectures Josie on Oriental and jailbird philosophy.
   -- Pete and Catherine search for missing ledger.

   04:00 (clock at Easter Park)
   -- The boys at the police station talk about Andy's marksmanship.
   -- Bobby, pretending to be Leo, calls station to rat on James.
   -- Coop and Harry grill Jacques.
   -- Doc tells them about Jacoby.
   -- Pete and Catherine still searching for ledger at home. Catherine
      gets call from Hank directing her to the Mill to find the ledger.
   -- Hank talks with Norma at Double-R.
   -- Big Ed finds Nadine, calls for ambulance.

   04:10 (Lucy to Harry: "Leo Johnson called...about 10 minutes ago")
   -- James arrives at police station to talk to Harry
   -- Leland arrives at police station, Doc leaves for home.
   -- Cooper & Harry talk with James, who is then arrested for drug
      possession

      [Note: "DIANE..." has Cooper reporting at "past midnight" --
      presumably not long after -- that Jacques is at the hospital, Jacoby
      had seen Laura "two hours ago", and James was arrested. This report
      is inconsistent with other timestamps.]

   -- Ben Horne and Einar Thorson closing Ghostwood deal at OEJ's. Hank
      calls Ben about eliminating Leo.
   -- Bobby, looking for Shelly at home, encounters Leo, who gets shot by
      Hank.

   04:20 (clock face on bomb)
   -- Catherine finds Shelly at the Mill; fire starts.
   -- Leland smothers Jacques.
   -- Pete goes into burning shed to rescue Catherine.
   -- Ben and Einar finish signing the deal. Ben prepares to "try the New
      Girl".

   04:37 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper arrives back at his hotel room.
   -- The wounded Leo is found by the police.
   -- Cooper is shot by Person Unknown.

03 Mar (Friday)  [Episode #8 - 9/30 ???]  [mentioned on "DIANE..."]

 * 05:00 (Cooper to Diane, in later report)
   -- Leo is checked into the hospital. Jacques is discovered to be dead.

 * 09:15 (Cooper to Diane)
   -- Cooper is pronounced A-OK -- if a bit sore -- by Doc Hayward

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> >4. Harold Smith cannot be the killer. Introduced too late. Similarly the OAM,
> >the vet, the brothers renaud (whatever!), and sundry people introduced later.

I don't think he's the killer, but the One Armed Man *was* introduced in
the first episode.  If you look down one of the long hallway shots, you
see him exiting an elevator and walking down an intersecting hallway. 
Hmmmm...if he was in the hospital then, that kind of lends towards the
hospital being BOB's current base of operations instead of the Great
Northern, dosen't it?

Allan

In article <2Jo5R3w163w@bigtime.covs.or.us>, larry@bigtime.covs.or.us (Larry Gilbert) writes...

} Whether or not the mysterious Japanese gentleman is Catherine in disguise,
} can we not all agree in the very least that he is played by Piper Laurie?

No, we can't. For one, you can't divorce these two things -- there'd be no
reason for Piper Laurie to play the part if it wasn't intended that Mr. T
was Catherine in disguise. Secondly, I don't see why you (or anyone) believes
that it's her in the role.

} I have a sneaky suspicion that Mr. "Cole" *had* to appear, for one of two
} reasons (both theoretical!):

That fact is that Miguel has his own series on another network starting
at the end of this month. I wouldn't be surprised if he came back to TP
in the event that his new show flops.

} Will the series continue?  My personal opinion is "no."  Michael Ontkean,
} appearing on the Arsenio Hall show a month or two ago, said that all the
} episodes had been shot, and they had even been available on video in Europe
} for some time.

False. First, Paul Raveling has posted here that ABC originally committed
to thirteen episodes for the Second Season (and we've only seen six so far),
but a few weeks ago, they asked Lynch/Frost for more. Paul got his info
from Scott Frost, brother of Mark.

Secondly, the only TP available overseas on video is a slightly extended
version of the series pilot. The series is now running on BBC2 in the UK,
and they've so far only seen the pilot and the first two episodes.

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In article <9011041732.AA03524@pogo>, dan@AI.MIT.EDU writes...

} This will look kind of silly if it turns out that it ISN'T Catherine
} ("completely obvious" eh?).

Right. There are so many things that have been bandied about as being
"obvious" that are no such thing. Hell, if they were that obvious,
there wouldn't be anything to argue about, right?

I've got my crow sitting around waiting to be eaten if it turns out that
Mr. T *is* Catherine, but I fully expect that crow to be alive and well
and undigested at the turn of the century.

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In article <EMERICK.90Nov4183034@bucsf.bu.edu>, emerick@bucsf.bu.edu (Emerick Rogul) writes...

} I saw a new paperback book *about* Twin Peaks in my local bookstore
} yesterday. It has a disclaimer on the cover that it is written without
} the authority of Lynch/Frost. It's basically information about Lynch
} and Frost, the series (up to and including the second season opener), 
} character biographies, etc.  [...]  It seems to be a fairly good primer
} for people who may be just starting to watch the show, but contained
} nothing which I found to be new or startling.  Of course, the punchline
} is that I immediately forgot the name of the book when I left the store.

Let me go out on a limb and suggest that it's published by Pioneer Books.
They've done a number of these type of books, including ones on BEAUTY
AND THE BEST, WISEGUY, DARK SHADOWS, LOST IN SPACE, and DICK TRACY.
And all of them are absolutely appalling.

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In article <10574@milton.u.washington.edu>, jespah@milton.u.washington.edu (Kathleen Hunt) writes...

} Does anyone remember when exactly Bob entered the hospital?  When
} Cooper et al. first confronted PMG, PMG said Bob (Lydecker) was
} assaulted outside a bar, or something like that, "a few days ago"
} and has been in the hospital since. My question is, what day was
} "a few days ago"? Could it have been after Laura died? That is,
} could Bob Lydecker have been involved in Laura's death?

Actually, PMG the OAM says no such thing. Cooper asks Gerard why he's
been at the hospital "the past few days" (which would mean Sunday and
Monday). Gerard tells them it's because he's visiting Bob Lydecker.
*HARRY* then says, "There was a Lydecker assaulted three days ago
outside a bar in Lowtown," to which Gerard says, "That's Bob."

The interrogation at the motel was on a Tuesday, which means that the
assault (and thus hospitalization) must have been on Saturday (presumably
evening). The trouble with Gerard's answer is that he was first seen at
the hospital on *Friday* (he was in the elevator when Harry and Coop go
down to the morgue to see Laura's body -- in the pilot).

This *could* be just another example of Lynch and Frost "forgetting which
'day' they're on" or it could be significant.

By the by, "Lowtown" is just a section of Twin Peaks.

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In article <90308.085614KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>, KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes...

} Which way did the rip off go for the:

} Seven Samurai == Magnificent Seven  ?

SAMURAI was first by about six years. 

I wouldn't classify THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN as a "rip off", though. John
Sturges never made any attempt to hide the fact that he was remaking
SEVEN SAMURAI. It's not like he was hoping no one would notice. Kurosawa's
film wasn't exactly a closet classic. Sturges was simply doing an
"Americanized remake" in the same vein as some more modern films such
as THREE MEN AND A CRADLE == THREE MEN AND A BABY or COUSIN, COUSINE ==
COUSINS.

In article <90309.140737ACPS7035@Ryerson.CA>, ACPS7035@Ryerson.CA writes...

} The seven sam's came first, and Boy there are a lot of similarities,
} such as the same lines used and every thing.

For a far more obvious remake, try watching YOJIMBO, followed by A FISTFUL
OF DOLLARS. The latter is a copy virtually down to the framing of the shots.

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In article <JYM.90Nov7122858@remarque.berkeley.edu> jym@remarque.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
>> >> 9.  Why was Donna acting slutty for a few episodes?
> >.-.
> >|C|ouldn't we find a better word than "slutty" here?  It has such
> >`-' negative connotations, and as it is rarely used to describe
> >    the actions of men, it comes across as pretty sexist.  (Nobody
> >    has called Ben Horne a "slut.")
> >

     Ben Horne is a slut!
     Ooh! Ooh!
     Ooooooooooooooooooh!

 dan

In article <2878@dali>, icsu8297@ming.cs.montana.edu (Wilbanks) writes...

} The only person in the Twin Peaks universe capable of doing battle with
} the evil BOB is Nadine Hurley: the original Superwoman. Lynch is
} definitely prepareing a circumstance where Nadine will use her
} superpowers for the benefit of the characters. What better way to do
} this than with a battle with BOB.

Or maybe she'll try to give him CPR...

WHAM!!!  (breathe, breathe)

WHAM!!!  (breathe, breathe)

WHAM!!!  (breathe, breathe)

Oooo, that smarts...

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In article <2326@spark.ed.ac.uk>, denise@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Denise Neapolitan) writes...

}} what Cooper told Harry when he related his dream. And apparently, this
}} *is* the case in the Euroversion of the pilot.
}                       ~~~~~~~~~~~

} OOOh I didn't know this.  Can anybody out there tell me what we are
} getting differently over here?

Nothing. Kinda sorta. What's running on BBC2 right now is what we got over
here. The "Euroversion" was a videotape release.

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In article <2163@ac.dal.ca>, marsup@ac.dal.ca writes...

} Does anybody else have that problem? Tabor Wells suggests this may be
} an effect of the surround sound system. If this is so, why does it
} only affect the voices, and not the music?

It may be a symptom of the stereo transmission being on the fritz. As for
why the music isn't affected, there's a fairly simple explanation for that.

Except for the early stereo recordings, in which the engineers liked to
play with it, music in stereo isn't broken down into discrete Instrument
A on the left channel, Instrument B on the right channel. While a given
instrument may "lean" toward one channel or the another, all of the music
generally comes out of both channels.

Dialogue, however, comes through on one channel or the other. So, Cooper
appears on the left, Audrey on the right (or whatever). If during the
transmission the right channel signal drops out, Audrey's voice would get
lost, though the music would come through since you'd still be hearing it
from the left channel.

This is all speculation on my part. I've never had any sound problems with
TP myself.

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My vote is a YES to create rec.arts.tv.twin-peaks.

I know there is an alt group but as many people have said a lot of sites do
not get the alt groups. Why should we discriminate against those sites?

I like twin peaks (and quantum leap). I want to read the postings for the
show, but when I want to check what else in rec.arts.tv is almost impossible.
I use /TP/M with all it's variations in my kill file and still there are
postings that go through. It's so nice to be able to read startrek articles
when I'm in the mood and it would be perfect to do the same for TP.

Thanks,
Eric
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In article <11622@scorn.sco.COM> timr@sco.COM (Bad Hurts Value) writes:
> >
> >In article <44018@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> v101pyrw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>> >>In article <90305.030246KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>, KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes...
>> >><...>
>>> >>>Can somebody send me info on the Secret Diary (author, publisher, etc)...
>>> >>><...>
>> >><...>
>> >>"The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer" was written by Jennifer Lynch (Lynch's 22
>> >>year old daughter).  I have no idea who published it...
>> >><...>
> >
> >the publisher is:
> >
> >Pocket Books
> >1230 Avenue of the Americas
> >New York, NY  10020

Just been published in the UK by Penguin Books at 3.99.

In article <EbCL=li00VsnQOYXRh@andrew.cmu.edu> bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:

   Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks: 7-Nov-90 Re: a.t.t-p FAQL
   supplement Jym Dyer@remarque.berkel (560)

   > > 9.  Why was Donna acting slutty for a few episodes?
   > .-.
   > |C|ouldn't we find a better word than "slutty" here?  It has such
   > `-' negative connotations, and as it is rarely used to describe
   >     the actions of men, it comes across as pretty sexist.  (Nobody
   >     has called Ben Horne a "slut.")

   @begin(soapbox)

   "Slut" does indeed have negative connotations (which I meant to use),
   but I disagree with the claim that it is a sexist word.  "Sexism"
   connotes the denigration of an entire gender, or of a person because of
   their gender.  My use of "slutty" did neither.  Many words are
   gender-specific, or at least oriented toward one gender or the other. 
   "Slut" is one such word, oriented toward use regarding certain women. 
   This is not to say that there aren't similar words that can be used to
   describe similar men.

Speaking of knee-jerk...! In fact, if you read what Jym wrote again, you
will note: a) he said the word was *not* specific to women b) he said
*since* it is usually used to describe women, it *comes across* as
sexist.

   What I did NOT say:

       "Women are slutty."

       "Donna, being a woman, couldn't help being slutty."

       "Donna went through a period of typical female sluttiness."

       "While men are to be lauded for sexual promiscuity and leanings
       thereto, it is wholly inappropriate in women (specifically Donna)."

You didn't say this, but you *did* imply it.  You see, the connotations
of the word "slut" are quite negative and do suggest that the person
wants sex inappropriately (too much, in this case)...

   I sympathize with the causes of feminism, equality, and justice, but I
   am irritated by knee-jerkers who, perhaps overly sensitive to these
   issues, bristle at the innocent and *appropriate* use of a perfectly
   good and descriptive word such as "slut."

   @end(soapbox)

Well, let's examine how appropriate it was.  Donna felt that James might
be getting interested in someone else.  She knew he had been very
attracted to Laura, who probably acted sexier than Donna normally does.
So, Donna was attempting to attract James (in however bizarre a way).
She was not trying to attract any other men (which *might* have been
"slutty").  Smoking, while an unpleasant habit, is not "slutty."  Her
makeup and clothing, while they were sexy in a strange sort of way,
were *not* "slutty"...just different from her normal mode.

All in all, choosing to refer to someone trying to appear sexier to
attract a man she is in love with as "slutty" doesn't seem very
appropriate.

Now, what I want to know is, did we ever figure out if this was just
Donna being weird for a while, or was she being influenced from outside?

Muffy
muffy@mica.berkeley,edu

A good question about the horse :

Who's room is it standing in?

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Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks: 7-Nov-90 WKLP: Leland or Pete
or ? Hardeep Johar@rnd.GBA.NY (2326)

> > Every good mystery story must obey two rules:
> > 1. The killer must be introduced at an early stage. Introducing the killer at
> > a later stage is not cricket.
> > 2. There should be enough clues in the early stages that point to the killer.
> > They may not make sense when shown, but when all is revealed, all the early
> > clues should make sense.

I agree that these are, more or less, the "rules" for a proper mystery. 
However, who ever claimed that Twin Peaks is a proper mystery?

If Twin Peaks winds up not obeying these rules, then it won't be a
proper mystery, but it will be *something*.  Perhaps we shouldn't be
expecting TP to conform to classic mystery rules.  Perhaps it was
intended all along to be *something* else.  After all, TP is supposed to
be pushing the outside of the television envelope.  It breaks all kinds
of molds; why not the mold that we expect stories to fit into?

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Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks: 7-Nov-90 Re: a.t.t-p FAQL
supplement Jym Dyer@remarque.berkel (560)

>> > > 9.  Why was Donna acting slutty for a few episodes?
> > .-.
> > |C|ouldn't we find a better word than "slutty" here?  It has such
> > `-' negative connotations, and as it is rarely used to describe
> >     the actions of men, it comes across as pretty sexist.  (Nobody
> >     has called Ben Horne a "slut.")

@begin(soapbox)

"Slut" does indeed have negative connotations (which I meant to use),
but I disagree with the claim that it is a sexist word.  "Sexism"
connotes the denigration of an entire gender, or of a person because of
their gender.  My use of "slutty" did neither.  Many words are
gender-specific, or at least oriented toward one gender or the other. 
"Slut" is one such word, oriented toward use regarding certain women. 
This is not to say that there aren't similar words that can be used to
describe similar men.

What I did NOT say:

    "Women are slutty."

    "Donna, being a woman, couldn't help being slutty."

    "Donna went through a period of typical female sluttiness."

    "While men are to be lauded for sexual promiscuity and leanings
    thereto, it is wholly inappropriate in women (specifically Donna)."

I sympathize with the causes of feminism, equality, and justice, but I
am irritated by knee-jerkers who, perhaps overly sensitive to these
issues, bristle at the innocent and *appropriate* use of a perfectly
good and descriptive word such as "slut."

@end(soapbox)

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Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks: 7-Nov-90 Re: a.t.t-p FAQL
supplement Jym Dyer@remarque.berkel (560)

>> > > 9.  Why was Donna acting slutty for a few episodes?
> > .-.
> > |C|ouldn't we find a better word than "slutty" here?  It has such
> > `-' negative connotations, and as it is rarely used to describe
> >     the actions of men, it comes across as pretty sexist.  (Nobody
> >     has called Ben Horne a "slut.")

@begin(soapbox)

"Slut" does indeed have negative connotations (which I meant to use),
but I disagree with the claim that it is a sexist word.  "Sexism"
connotes the denigration of an entire gender, or of a person because of
their gender.  My use of "slutty" did neither.  Many words are
gender-specific, or at least oriented toward one gender or the other. 
"Slut" is one such word, oriented toward use regarding certain women. 
This is not to say that there aren't similar words that can be used to
describe similar men.

What I did NOT say:

    "Women are slutty."

    "Donna, being a woman, couldn't help being slutty."

    "Donna went through a period of typical female sluttiness."

    "While men are to be lauded for sexual promiscuity and leanings
    thereto, it is wholly inappropriate in women (specifically Donna)."

I sympathize with the causes of feminism, equality, and justice, but I
am irritated by knee-jerkers who, perhaps overly sensitive to these
issues, bristle at the innocent and *appropriate* use of a perfectly
good and descriptive word such as "slut."

@end(soapbox)

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Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks: 7-Nov-90 Re: a.t.t-p FAQL
supplement Jym Dyer@remarque.berkel (560)

>> > > 9.  Why was Donna acting slutty for a few episodes?
> > .-.
> > |C|ouldn't we find a better word than "slutty" here?  It has such
> > `-' negative connotations, and as it is rarely used to describe
> >     the actions of men, it comes across as pretty sexist.  (Nobody
> >     has called Ben Horne a "slut.")

@begin(soapbox)

"Slut" does indeed have negative connotations (which I meant to use),
but I disagree with the claim that it is a sexist word.  "Sexism"
connotes the denigration of an entire gender, or of a person because of
their gender.  My use of "slutty" did neither.  Many words are
gender-specific, or at least oriented toward one gender or the other. 
"Slut" is one such word, oriented toward use regarding certain women. 
This is not to say that there aren't similar words that can be used to
describe similar men.

What I did NOT say:

    "Women are slutty."

    "Donna, being a woman, couldn't help being slutty."

    "Donna went through a period of typical female sluttiness."

    "While men are to be lauded for sexual promiscuity and leanings
    thereto, it is wholly inappropriate in women (specifically Donna)."

I sympathize with the causes of feminism, equality, and justice, but I
am irritated by knee-jerkers who, perhaps overly sensitive to these
issues, bristle at the innocent and *appropriate* use of a perfectly
good and descriptive word such as "slut."

@end(soapbox)

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In article <1990Nov7.140325@prarie.enet.dec.com> donham@prarie.enet.dec.com () writes:
|From: campbell_d@cho006.cho.ge.com:
|>  "Mister" Tojimura is definitely Catherine.  Having her run into Pete 
|>at the milk bar was hilarious!  I'll bet the $5,000,000 check which Ben 
|>gave to Josie is a bouncer.
|
|But wasn't the check a cashier's check? 

Can you say "forgery"?

It may appear to be a cashier's check drawn on a bank in Tokyo, but why must
we presume that Ben knows anough about Tokyo to know whether or not this
bank even exists.

Ben obviously is very familiar with what cashier's checks look like, but that
doesn't rule out the possibility of a very good forgery.

chaz



-- Someone please release me from this trance. clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu AOL:Crowbone

In article <90311.051724KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:
> >In article <0bBLt8C00Vsn0FdGNE@andrew.cmu.edu>, bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert
> >Steven Glickstein) says:
>> >>
>> >>Many of the significant clues that we've seen or heard on Twin Peaks
>> >>have been followed up on.  Here are some that haven't.  Any ideas,
>> >>anyone?
>> >>
> >
> >What was the interaction between Laura and Audrey -- did they take
> >cocaine together or did they have a provider relationship?
> >
> >Is this related to her helping Johnny?

Recall the conversation between Audrey and Donna where Donna
questions Audrey about having been at church.  Audrey says
she went "for Laura."  Donna frowns and says, "But I thought
you didn't like Laura" (or "I thought you weren't friends," 
you get the gist).  Then Audrey admits that Laura did help
her brother, Johnny, "and so I guess I loved her for that."



> >Does Copper look more aged in that scene? (Look at his neck?)
> >
When Cooper tells Truman and Lucy about his dream the next morning,
he is speaking very quickly, but in his description of the
room with the midget and the midget's cousin (who looks
exactly like Laura Palmer), he (Cooper) mentions
that he is an old man.

Carrie "please don't make me leave" Bullington

In article <1990Nov6.143024.119@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu> ansher@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu writes:
> >Why is it assumed that once we find out WKLP, that Cooper will automatically
> >pack up and leave as though he has so many other things to do?  Remember, 
> >we are supposedly just going to FIND OUT the killer. He may not be cuffed
> >and indicted and convicted and sentenced.....Cooper will probably know 
> >exactly who did it, and then spend the rest of the season(s) trying to 
> >apprehend him.

Somebody has already posted (supposedly from an inside source) that
WE will know the killer before COOPER.  I could interpret this to
mean that Coop might possibly not know for the rest of the season.


-- Scott Amspoker Basis International, Albuquerque, NM (505) 345-5232 unmvax.cs.unm.edu!bbx!bbxsda!scott

In article <1990Nove5.135816.111405@athena.mit.edu>, pjcoates@athena.mit.edu (Paul J Coates)
> > Watched the 11/3 episode of Twin Peaks on video delay (who stays in on a Saturday).
> >
> > During the opening credits as Truman carried Audrey to the bed, he is followed
> > into the room by Hawk, and Truman enters stage left.  Did anyone notice that
> > Truman was followed by a long grey haired individual?  This person moved to the
> > back of the scene and was visible a couple of times as Cooper tended Audrey.
> > Looked a lot like Bob to me.

After extensive review I'd have to say that I think it is BOB also!  However, I don't
think that Truman is in the scene.  He looks a bit like Truman but it seems clear that
it isn't Truman because in the following scene in Truman's office Truman is asking
Cooper how Audrey is (as if he weren't there).  By the way, did they take Audrey
into the Bookhouse.  There are a lot of motorcycles out front and some books so I
think that it is.

After the guy who looks like Truman (call him Joe for now) helps Cooper carry Audrey
to the bed drops back to where the guy who looks like BOB (call him Bob for now) is.
It appears that Joe is conversing with Bob.  This Bob character appears to be a
biker with leather jacket and all.  If Bob is BOB then why can Joe see and talk to
him.  Is he gifted or damned?  Why don't Cooper and Hawk seem to notice Bob?  Can they
even see him?

In a later scene when Cooper brings Benjamin Horne to see is daughter in the same
room Bob is in the background again!

Is this Bob = BOB?  He really does look like him!

Kind of sneaky for the TP people to slip the first scene of Bob strolling into the
background into the credits.  I can't believe I didn't notice the first time around.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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MIT Spoken Language Systems Group
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In article <90311.051724KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>, KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes...
> >In article <0bBLt8C00Vsn0FdGNE@andrew.cmu.edu>, bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert
> >Steven Glickstein writes...

> >What was the interaction between Laura and Audrey -- did they take
> >cocaine together or did they have a provider relationship?

As far as we know Audrey was not on cocaine.  Audrey, who wasn't that close to
Laura seems to have a better idea of some of her less noble hobbies, like drug 
use and her part-time work ;-), than Donna does.

> >Does Copper look more aged in that scene? (Look at his neck?)

Yes, he does.  

>> >>2.  The dark shadow moving across the red curtains.  An owl, or
>> >>    other bird?  Related to the dark shadow that Maddy saw on the living
>> >>    room carpet?

> >Somebody else claimed this was a boot. How does a boot relate to cocaine?
> >I miss this connection.

My guess is the shadow across the carpet.  But you people in the Uk haven't seen
this yet.  I don't think it looked remotely like a boot.


--Michelle

Ok, assuming that

A)  BOB is "in" some poor fool

and

B)  This poor fool has been in TP for the last 40 years

then who killed Teresa Banks?  Remember, Teresa was NOT an inhabitant of
TP -- she was killed in another corner of the state.

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| "It isn't necessary to be rich and famous to be happy.  It's only          |
|  necessary to be rich." -- Alan Alda                                       |
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In article <1990Nov1.225248.16939@midway.uchicago.edu> swsh@ellis.uchicago.edu (Janet M. Swisher) writes:
> >Rather than create two geographically-based newsgroups for the same show,
> >the ideal situation would be for North American posters to put 
> >Distribution: na (i.e. North America) in their articles, especially the
> >ones having to do with plot details (which is most).  That way, y'all won't
> >see them over in the UK.

Please don't do this.

By all means indicate that a message contains plot details.  But I
don't want to be cut off just because other people want to be kept in
suspense.

By the way, can someone send me a video of the forthcoming episode
in which the killer will supposedly be revealed?

-- Richard
-- Richard Tobin, JANET: R.Tobin@uk.ac.ed AI Applications Institute, ARPA: R.Tobin%uk.ac.ed@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Edinburgh University. UUCP: ...!ukc!ed.ac.uk!R.Tobin

> > They've also spiked trees leading to the disfigurment and
> > maiming of several loggers. 
.-.
|F|or the record, Earth First! warns loggers about tree stands
`-' where spiking has gone on.  The one incident in which a
    millworker (not a logger) was injured by a spike in a tree
    was not the result of a Earth First! spiking.  It was done
    by some renegade.  Possibly BOB.
    <_Jym_>

>> >> I think [Lynch] did a great job at mispronouncing just about
>> >> everything he said. 
> >  ...boy, if u can't see the humor in lynch's gordon cole, then i
> >  feel for you...
.-.
|Y|ou misunderstand.  When I said Lynch did a "great job," I meant
`-' he did a "great job."  Capiche?  I'd expect a deaf person to
    mispronounce things . . . my grandfather certainly did.
.-.
|A|nd speaking of humor, my joke about Gordon Cole looking like the
`-' little magician kid has yielded me a mailboxful of sober mess-
    ages telling me that they're both Lynches. :-)

/F356/<_Jym_Dyer_>/B893/A972/F83/H25/N729/F387/G298/O37/X235/Q734/
/X243/K822/L262/B23/THE/OWLS/ARE/NOT/WHAT/THEY/SEEM/B383/L947/M84/
/M867/B586/K389/O98/AND/I/LIKE/WHALES/N37/B88/L867/P213/N297/B957/
/W482/jym@mica.berkeley.edu/I55/K387/P987/R80/Z903/Y983/O092/C381/

> > Could the hickory sticks, as they are commonly sharpened for
> > marshmallows, be the murder weapon which caused the numerous
> > shallow wounds?
.-.
|A|s any reader of alt.tv.twin-peaks knows, the shallow wounds are
`-' actually owl beak marks.  Nobody doing any of the autopsies
    ("amateur hour" or otherwise) seem to have noticed beak marks
    anywhere but on Laura's neck and shoulders, but the theory is
    so popular here it's just *got* to be true!  Besides, Albert
    didn't find traces of marshmallows on Laura . . .
.-.
|P|erhaps the Horne brothers have a drawerful of owl beaks some-
`-' where, which they mount on the ends of hickory sticks to stab
    people to death with.

/F356/<_Jym_Dyer_>/B893/A972/F83/H25/N729/F387/G298/O37/X235/Q734/
/X243/K822/L262/B23/THE/OWLS/ARE/NOT/WHAT/THEY/SEEM/B383/L947/M84/
/M867/B586/K389/O98/AND/I/LIKE/WHALES/N37/B88/L867/P213/N297/B957/
/W482/jym@mica.berkeley.edu/I55/K387/P987/R80/Z903/Y983/O092/C381/

I agree with Muffy's comments.  I generally think of a slut as being a
person who is not discriminate in sex partners, and is basically
willing to sleep with anyone at the drop of a hat.  Sexist or no, this
description does not apply to Donna's behavior at any point.  She very
specifically wants to sleep with James.

Maybe 'sleazy' would be a more appropriate word, or maybe just say 'so
different', and we'll all know what's being referred to.

Janet
--
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"This whole world's wild at heart and weird on top."  -- Lula

Well if you really want to go back to the dream sequence, why don't we
just go see where BOB was when MIKE shot him.  I do believe that it was
in the basement of the hospital, Someone else can go check upon that,
but  wouldn't it be just like the mystery story for the hero to make one
wrong assumption, and have everyone follow along the tangent.

J-l P

In article <7949@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> chiang@iris.ucdavis.edu (Tom Chiang) writes:
> >...we do not know it was BOB...i still think laura sacrificed herself
> >to avoid BOB...and if u think BOB did kill here, then how do u explain
> >his anger in the traincar scene?

I seem to remember a long debate about this.  I didn't keep a tally or
anything, but I think it's not at all clear that BOB is unhappy in that
scene.  He's just a crazed insane being.  He's exultant and triumphant,
not angry.  He looks a little angry because he's rather unpleasant.  I
don't think that a psychotic, evil spirit should have a smile on his face.
So don't ask somebody to explain something we haven't all accepted.

Other items:
1) Sorry for saying "Philly".  One bonehead said it was Philadelphia
and the rest of us boneheads followed suit.  Also, as a Bostonian, I
know how stupid it sounds to hear someone say "Beantown", and I guess
the same applies.  Ditto "Frisco".

2) I found Leo's kazoo noises to be rather more mournful than enraged.
But he's still menacing.  The shades enhanced it.

3) MIKE only inhabits P. M. Gerard, not other people like Ronette, as
somebody suggested.


>> Bill Sherman sherman@math.ucla.edu <<
riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings
us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.

In article <8615@scolex.sco.COM> peggyd@sco.COM (Margaret Dolgenos) writes:

> > To many of us in Santa Cruz, Earth Firsters are heroes.
> > They may help us preserve these redwoods that we love.
> > 
> > Now back to your scheduled twin peaks discussion...

To many of us in Chicago,  Al Capone and his band of merry men are heros.
Doesn't make it right, tho.

---------------------------
Peter B. Hayward                                              N9IZT/AE
University of Chicago Computing Organizations

bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:

> >Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks: 7-Nov-90 Re: a.t.t-p FAQL
> >supplement Jym Dyer@remarque.berkel (560)

>>> >> > 9.  Why was Donna acting slutty for a few episodes?
>> >> .-.
>> >> |C|ouldn't we find a better word than "slutty" here?  It has such
>> >> `-' negative connotations, and as it is rarely used to describe
>> >>     the actions of men, it comes across as pretty sexist.  (Nobody
>> >>     has called Ben Horne a "slut.")

> >@begin(soapbox)

Bob Glickstein went through a period of typical male ineptness
when he posted this frankly useless and flame-ridden article not
once, not twice, but three times in a row!

--  maggie

P.S.  Sorry, I couldn't resist :).
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In article <1990Nov6.230913.15159@portia.Stanford.EDU> jill@portia.Stanford.EDU (Jill Sporleder) writes:
> >Another fact pointing to Leland is the flashback that shows Sarah
> >Palmer having visions of BOB coming down the stairs of her house.
> >Leland, possessed by BOB, has walked down those same stairs.
> >
BZZZT. That's Sarah herself walking down those stairs.

 / harlan@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Pete Harlan) /  1:28 pm  Nov  5, 1990 /
writes:

>> >>It sounds to my ears that Cooper's voice, when he recites the line of
>> >>the poem during the interrogation of Mike via the OAM, has the "I am
>> >>possessed" effect applied to it.

>> >>Others have indicated they thought it was just the voice of Mike
>> >>chiming in at the same time as Coop's, but Mike's voice doesn't sound
>> >>at all like the added deepness of Cooper's, either before or after.
>> >>Perhaps Coop has an otherworld partner that will aid in the capture of
>> >>BOB?  Perhaps BOB is the spirit that inhabited Coop's insane partner?
>> >>P-K4: their game has begun?

I too heard some otherworldly effect on Cooper's voice when he chimed
in with Mike.  I was convinced that it was an addition to Cooper's 
voice, not an effect of the two voices together, but I can't prove
that assertion.

Is there anything in the chess move?  For instance, whoever made the
first move is playing the WHITE pieces, leaving Cooper to play the
BLACK ones...  And how will Cooper reply?  Double King Pawn?  Sicilian?
Caro-Kann?  ...

- ced

jym@remarque.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:

> >|A|nd speaking of humor, my joke about Gordon Cole looking like the
> >`-' little magician kid has yielded me a mailboxful of sober mess-
> >    ages telling me that they're both Lynches. :-)

Did you expect anything else? This newsgroup is so serious - and the topic
is so much fun, too. I suspect we may be analyzing this a little too much.

On the other hand, I am basing my life from here on out on Cooper's. Does
anyone know how to get into the FBI academy? Or how to get in touch with
the Dalai Lama?

Ron

In article <28220@bellcore.bellcore.com> wwd@cellar.UUCP (Bill Donahue) writes:

> >In today's USA Today, it is spelled as "Tojimura"

I don't have anything to go by other than what I thought I heard, but
I thought his name was Tachimori.  Roughly translated, it means
standing forest.  I thought that it might be an ironic name, since
he wants development of Ghostwood -- which would make a standing forest,
not.  

But hey, if USA Today said it's Tojimura, it must be right. 1/2 :-)

-- Tak Ariga, Dictionary of Old English Project, University of Toronto, Canada tak@doe.utoronto.ca tak@doe.toronto.edu utdoe!tak +1 416 978 8883

Hopefully I got the car manufacturer right.  There's a new commericial
out for the Sentra that's pretty creepy if you've been watching TP.

The narration goes on and on about how nice it would be if you always
got the right of way -- the driver's name is Bob, and there's all these
situations like driving through a toll booth, with a special lane only
for BOB, etc.  makes you wonder....

Ed Hughes writes...
|> M and C in unison:
|>     Through the darkness of future past,
|>     The magician longs to see.
|> M:  One...chants out, between two worlds,
|>     Fire...walk with me.

Rob Jellinghaus writes...
|> One-Armed Man: In the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.  One
|> chance outs between two worlds... fire, walk with me.

This has been bothering me :-).  Is it:

   - one chants out  between two worlds (Ed Hughes)
   - one chance outs between two worlds (Rob Jellinghaus)
   - one chance out  between two worlds (me) ?

Also, is it "through" or "in" the darkness?  We've heard this quote twice, is it
exactly the same in both places?

-- Edmund Burnette, SAS Institute Inc. (919)677-8000 | sasebb@unx.sas.com SAS Campus Drive, Cary, NC 27513 (919)677-8123(fax) | ...!mcnc!rti!sas!sasebb Seen at local grocery store: "Looking for part time perishable clerk"

In article <15665@reed.UUCP> hedlund@reed.UUCP (Marc Hedlund) writes:
> >
> >Can anyone tell in what room the horse was standing when seen in the preview?
> >I assumed it was Laura's bedroom, but I think I jumped to that conclusion 
> >based on the position of the bed.  Any positive confirmations?
> >

...methinks it was part of the lydecker clinic...waiting room or upstair or something...just like the llama was standing there

console cowboy

In article <685@kaos.MATH.UCLA.EDU>, sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (William
Sherman) writes:
 
> > New question: we all know about the nepotism over at Lynch/Frost,
what
> > with Austin J. Lynch and Warren Frost getting parts.  What I want to
> > know is: are Caleb Deschanel (the director) and Mary Jo Deschanel
> > (Eileen Hayward) related?  Married?  Anything?  Mr. Raveling, do you
> > have the inside scoop on this one?

It's official, they're married.

Sometimes it seems like the crew on Twin Peaks is like the
population of Hillman, Minnesota -- Everyone's either related
to someone else or is a friend of someone else.


------------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@Unify.com

I urgently need a VHS copy of last Saturday's (11/3) episode ASAP.  If
you are in the greater Pittsburgh area and have such a tape, please
email me at ab3o+@andrew.cmu.edu or try and reach me at (412) 268-4632
or (412) 268-2750.

Thanks

Allan

I urgently need a VHS copy of last Saturday's (11/3) episode ASAP.  If
you are in the greater Pittsburgh area and have such a tape, please
email me at ab3o+@andrew.cmu.edu or try and reach me at (412) 268-4632
or (412) 268-2750.

Thanks

Allan

In article <5901@rtech.Ingres.COM> elvira@ingres.com (Eric G. Elvira) writes:
> >I know there is an alt group but as many people have said a lot of sites do
> >not get the alt groups. Why should we discriminate against those sites?

-We- are not discriminating against those sites.  -They- are dis-
criminating against us.  Any site that wants alt.tv.twin-peaks can 
easily arrange a feed for it.





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|Y|ou're all wrong.  That's not a horse, it's a vicuna.  A vicuna
`-' is a flightless bird with hair.  It has a mynah-like beak and
    is a close relative to the llama.  And it eats hickory sticks.
.-.
|I| have to go.  The nice people in white coats are here now, and
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In article <1990Nov2.153859.244@cho006.cho.ge.com> 
campbell_d@cho006.cho.ge.com writes:
> >   Sorry to wreck your train theory, but I believe that
> > Pennsylvania 6-5000 referred to a phone number from the
> > days when exchanges had names (e.g. PA6-5000 is 726-5000).

Um, basically correct about it having no relation to trains (where do 
people get these ideas, anyway?), but Pennsylvania 6-5000 is PE6-5000 
(736-5000).                                                   ^

Hey, if it weren't for nitpickers, we'd all be knee-deep in nits...

--
Lefty  (lefty@twg.com)              |          "And you may ask yourself,
D:.O:.D:., C:.M:.C:.                |             'How do I work this?'"

>> >>I am thinking of knives we have seen - ANY knife.  Somebody with a good
>> >>memory should add to this list.

How about Pete cleaning the fish in the famous "fish in the per-ka-lator"
scene?

-- Tak Ariga, Dictionary of Old English Project, University of Toronto, Canada tak@doe.utoronto.ca tak@doe.toronto.edu utdoe!tak +1 416 978 8883

In article <19080018@hpclpa.HP.COM> dupree@hpclpa.HP.COM (Chuck Dupree) writes:
> >
> > / harlan@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Pete Harlan) /  1:28 pm  Nov  5, 1990 /
> >writes:
> >I too heard some otherworldly effect on Cooper's voice when he chimed
> >in with Mike.  I was convinced that it was an addition to Cooper's 
> >voice, not an effect of the two voices together, but I can't prove
> >that assertion.

There's no modification to Coop's voice, just Mike's.

Totally unrelated stuff follows.

I think the horse was at the Haywards or the Palmers, downstairs in
one of their living rooms.  I really don't know though.

That's Joey Paulson not BOB at the bookhouse w/audrey, can we add
this to the FAQ list?  This thread is driving me batty.

Could Leland have been around the police station when Mike Gerard said 
"I know you are near BOB"  or something like that?  I remember Leland
appeared at the police station before or after him during the same 
episode, I can't remember the specifics.  (this is the one where Mike
tries to shoot up with the funny blue stuff).  I know Leland was at the 
Great Northern when Mike suggested BOB was at a place that fit that description.

Early in the first season I remember when people were saying "yeah, right!"
when i suggested Leland did it.  After compiling a good list of evidence,
now they are saying it's too obvious for it to be him.  
I just can't win!  Grr. :)

I hope it doesn't turn out to be Harriet or Norma or something.
I'll be very surprised if it isn't Leland or Ben.  I hope they surprise
me in a way that doesn't make me groan in agony.


--Mike Kaye horny@ucscb.ucsc.edu   "BOB needs a human hos...pitality girl"

Drat, I was just about to post MY new quote list but Rob Jellinghaus beat
me to the punch with a long, very good list.  So, I will confine myself 
to listing only those quotes that Rob didn't have, that were incomplete, or
that had small, insignificant errors.  

Also, if anyone has Judge Sternwood's
Valhalla speech or Lucy's rundown of what happened in Twin Peaks the
night Cooper was shot, I think those deserve to be on the list.

Thanks to all those who sent me quotes -- if you don't see yours here,
then they're on Rob's list as well, and maybe Bill Sherman's list too.

I did a quick, inaccurate count of the number of favorite quotes per character.
Characters who only said something as a foil for another character didn't get
credit, so this is subjective as well as inaccurate.  
Characters who were only around for a few episodes (like Albert) are
obviously at a disadvantage....NO, I am NOT going to calculate average number
of favorite quotes per character per episode-minute!  Jeez!

36  Cooper
17  Albert
9   Jerry
6   MIKE
5   Lucy, Log Lady, Truman, Pete
4   Leland 
3   Pierre Tremond, Ben, Sarah, Leo, Catherine, Hawk, Harold, Nadine,
    Dr. Hayward, Andy, Ed, Bobby, Gordon
2   Donna, Leo, Judge Sternwood, the Giant, James, Secretary at the
    Great Northern, Sven 
1   Dr. Jacoby, Mrs. Tremond, Major Briggs, Audrey, Room Service Waiter,
    Mayor Milford, Mr. Neff, BOB, Shelly, Jonathan, Waldo, Pie-Eating Man,
    The Man From Another Place (his whole speech), Blackie, Norwegian
    Translator, Jacques, LAURA
 
Send more at any time.  Send corrections too.  Thanks!

Kathleen Hunt, aka Jespah
jespah@milton.u.washington.edu   

*************************************************************************
Quotes that are not on Rob's list, or that are incomplete or a bit wrong:
*************************************************************************

Waldo:Laura?  Laura?  Don't go there!  Don't go there!  Hurting me.
        Hurting me.  Leo, no!  Leo, no!

Bobby:Doc Hayward said you needed familiar stimuli, so I figured,
what the hell, kazoos.

MIKE:I am...an inhabiting spirit.

MIKE:   This [points to drawing] is his true face.  But few can see it.
The gifted -- and the DAMNED.

Dr. Hayward:  Well, as your doctor, Leland, what the hell happened to
your hair?

MIKE:A house, made of wood, surrounded by trees.  The house is filled
with many rooms, each alike, but occupied by different souls,
night after night.
Cooper: The Great Northern Hotel!

Sven:Ben, I am so happy, I can't even tell you how much.

Cooper: I think I saw a rabbit!
Truman:Must've been a snowshoe rabbit.   [<--correction]
Cooper: Snowshoe!  Snowshoe rabbit!!

Cooper: So, how long have you and Hank been friends?

Albert:Mr. Horne, I recognize that your position in this fair community
necessitates venality, insincerity, and a certain irritating
manner of expressing yourself.  Stupidity, however, is not a
                ^^^^^^^^^ (not "superiority")

Log Lady:      You wear shiny objects on your chest.  Are you proud? 
Major Briggs:  No, achievement is its own reward. Pride obscures it. Cream?
            (crucial to the mood!)  -->   ^^^^^


(The complete dream speech from TMFAP and LAURA)
The Man From Another Place:  Let's rock!  [pause as shadow floats by]
I've got good news.  That gum you like is going to come back
in style.  [notices Cooper staring at LAURA] She's my cousin.
But -- doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?
Cooper: [to TMFAP]  But she is Laura Palmer.
[to Laura] Are you Laura Palmer?
LAURA:I feel like I know her, but sometimes my arms bend back.
TMFAP:Where we're from, the birds sing a pretty song, and there's
always music in the air.  [stands and dances]

(the complete dream speech from MIKE and BOB:)
MIKE:In the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds, FIRE, WALK WITH ME.
We lived among the people.  I think you say...convenience store?
We lived above it.  I mean it as it is, like it sounds.
I too was touched by the devilish one -- tattoo on the left 
shoulder.  Ah, but when I saw the face of God, I was changed.
I took the entire arm off.  My name is Mike; his name is Bob.
BOB:Mike?  Mike?  Can you hear me?  Catch you with my death bag!
You may think I've gone insane, but I promise you, I WILL kill again!

Albert: Agent Cooper, I am thrilled to pieces that the Dharma came to 
King Hohoho, I really am.
        ^^^^   (not just "Hohoho")

Mayor Milford:  [tapping the mike] Is this thing on?  Is this thing on?
Truman: [mutters] Take it easy, Dwayne.  [out loud] Thank you, Mayor Milford.

Albert: Color me amazed! 

Albert:  Okay, confining my conclusions to the planet Earth....

Dick:I lost your number....
Lucy:I work at the sheriff's office!  You could have dialed 911!

(Cooper's line is approximate:)
Cooper: I see you're just hoping and praying to get your loving husband back.
Shelly: [totally astonished]  What?

Andy:I've been wearing boxer shorts like you told me to.
Dr. Hayward:  You want to give it another shot?

Albert:I believe it's customary to ask after the health of one recently
plugged three times.

Harold: [about the Secret Diary] Look, I've read this from cover to cover
and there are *no* solutions here.

Albert: [about Leo] Currently appearing at the Calhoun Memorial Hospital as
Mr. Potato Head.

(The following exchange is approximate:)
James:I didn't know you smoked.
Donna:Oh, I smoke every now and then.
James:Why do you smoke?
Donna:To reduce tension.
James:Why are you tense?
Donna:Because I smoke.

Cooper: Diane, I am now upside-down....

Blackie: Trouble, Miss Horne?  You don't know what trouble is!

Emory:  Wh-who are you?
Audrey: I'm Audrey Horne and I get what I want.

Leo:  Problem?  You think you've got a problem?...Problem?  You
want to know what's a problem??

Judge Sternwood:  Life is hard, dear.  Still, it's harder in most
places than in Twin Peaks.

Pierre:She SEEMED like a nice girl.

Pierre: Sometimes things happen just like THAT. [snap!]

Cooper: [how he likes his coffee] Black as midnight on a moonless night.

Cooper: The pain is banished to a cul-de-sac in a remote suburb of my
conscious mind.

Hawk:I had to drink three pots of chamomile tea to find that out!
Which reminds me...can I be excused, sir?
(that last line is approximate, but it should be included!)

Nadine:Where are Mom and Dad?
Ed:[very surprised] Whooooa!  They're...out of town!

*********************************************************************
Thank you, thank you.  Send more favorite quotes to me, Bill, or Rob...

Re the events forty years ago:  
I'd love it if Lynch would film what happened then ...picture it, a house in
the woods near a lake, a young Leland wandering over to a nearby white house, 
"Pennsylvania 6-5000" playing on someone's radio in the background, and
suddenly little Leland hears a match strike (just like Wild at Heart!) and
turns to see -- BOB.  "Would you like to play with fire, little boy?"

Re Leland-did-it:
Many moons ago when I first heard the Leland-did-it theory, I thought it
was impossible because Leland WAS SURPRISED when Harry told him his 
daughter was dead.  But now, with the Leland-Possessed-By-BOB angle,
that isn't such a problem any more.  If LPBB did kill Laura, do you think
maybe Leland doesn't remember, or thought it was just a dream?  Imagine
how horrible that would be, to dream that you killed your daughter, then
wake up and think "It was only a dream!" only to find out later that
day that your daughter is dead.
 
 
 rslugg@uncmed.med.unc.edu writes:
*I anticipate Bob to flea to Leo, and for Coop's partner to show up in TP
                     ^^^^
Appropriate move for a parasite, wouldn't you say?



[I accidentally deleted the credit for the following post...sorry...]
*I disagree.  Mystery writers have been walking this line for years, and
*many, many of them have been quite sucessful at it.  I don't know about
**you*, but when I get to the end of a Dorothy Sayers, P.D. James, or
*Dame Agatha herself, I don't usually experience the let-down of an
*impossible or grossly implausible ending. 

I agree about Sayers and James (Christie is more like popcorn -- I read it
without noticing it).  One reason I don't feel let down, though, is that
Sayers and James are GOOD AUTHORS, that is to say, their books would 
still be worth reading even if there were no mysteries at all.  I think
Twin Peaks is much the same.  WKLP is just part of an interesting and
unusual story. 

Jespah

      She might have just been used to saying "going down "when referring to things. I grew up in new york city, so I was always "going up "to a place or back down to the city. Now I live in North Carolina, but i still say I'm going down to new york when i talk about going home.

     Actually, to follow-up on Harold Smith, REmo Williams (The Destroyer ) killed LP. For those who don't know Harold Smith is the head of a secret government organization to protect the constitution. REmo Williams is it's enforcement arm. He's a super martial artist, and is sometimes possessed by Shiva. (this is all from a series of 80 or so books by Warren Murphy).

In article <708@kaos.MATH.UCLA.EDU> sherman@math.ucla.edu (William Sherman) writes:
> >In article <7949@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> chiang@iris.ucdavis.edu (Tom Chiang) writes:
>> >>...we do not know it was BOB...i still think laura sacrificed herself
>> >>to avoid BOB...and if u think BOB did kill here, then how do u explain
>> >>his anger in the traincar scene?
> >
> >I seem to remember a long debate about this.  I didn't keep a tally or
> >anything, but I think it's not at all clear that BOB is unhappy in that
> >scene.  He's just a crazed insane being.  He's exultant and triumphant,
> >not angry.  He looks a little angry because he's rather unpleasant.  I
> >don't think that a psychotic, evil spirit should have a smile on his face.
> >So don't ask somebody to explain something we haven't all accepted.

...come on, that whole scene is there for a reason: to try and shed
some light on what happened at the traincar and what ronnette
saw...BOB is clearly very angry or exultant...furthermore, he is
pounding something...i think we can all accept that...now, if u think
BOB killed her, then u think he was exultant and pounding her...if u
think on the other hand that she sacrificed herself (as i do ), then BOB was
pounding the mound of dirt that she used in the ritual...or if u have
another theory, then that must explain the traincar scene, which is
what i mean in the above quote "how do u explain the traincar
scene"...

> >3) MIKE only inhabits P. M. Gerard, not other people like Ronette, as
> >somebody suggested.

...it is unclear to me how u arrived @ this conclusion...if BOB
inhabits more than 1 host (as some believe including myslef) then why
is MIKE restricted to 1 ?...

console cowboy

We in th UK are only into the 3rd episode of Twin Peaks,and reading that
ABC in the US is about to show the conclusion episode,wouldn't it be
thoughtful if any one from the US writing about the solution put this
fact in the title.
We here in Manchester think that it is BIG ED (of the GAS FARM) but who
knows ?? Don't ruin it for us !!!

Peter Faraday

'Did you really have Reagan as your President ??'

In article <1269@bbxsda.UUCP> scott@bbxsda.UUCP (Scott Amspoker) writes:
> >I'm curious.  How does someone do an Agent Cooper costume?  I would
> >imagine someone who happens to have a striking resemblence to
> >Coop could take advantage of that.
> >
> >-- 
*******

We had a Halloween get-together where I work at the University of
Delaware and my colleague Morris Brooks dressed as Agent Cooper while
his wife Chris was the Log Lady.  Morris wore a tuxedo-type outfit,
with FBI in large letters on the back and on the front, three bullet
holes in the white shirt, cardboard (I think) for a bullet-proof vest
underneath, and one of the three bullet holes was bloody.  Combination
of the One-Eyed Jacks outfit at the time Cooper was shot, with the
FBI jacket used on the hunt.

It was very effective for those who knew Twin Peaks.  Others were
mystified (as could be expected).  Chris did an excellent job as the
Log Lady, having her log speak to varous people during the day.  My
favorite was spoken to a non-TP watcher:  "My log does not judge
those who do not watch the show."


Rae

The killer is certainly not a news reporter. They are strangely absent from
Twin Peaks.

Not having news reporting and television crews and that whole bit allows
the show to continue on from one episode to another as if nothing major had
happened previously. Imagine how different the show would be if CNN were
there interviewing anyone and everyone and putting them on national
television.

Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.twin-peaks: 8-Nov-90 Re: TP: 10/3 episode
review Joe Zitt@zitt (346)

> > bobg+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Steven Glickstein) writes:

>> > > Not too likely, continuity-wise, since the diary claims that Troy was
>> > > brown-and-cinnamon.  Or perhaps the horse is white because it's Troy's
>> > > ghost?

> > Perhaps... but that would be a horse of a different colour.

*flinging rotten tomatoes*

> > *ducking*

Darn, I missed.

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In article <sbCDZx_00awQ86fUZs@andrew.cmu.edu> ab3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Allan Bourdius) writes:
>> >>4. Harold Smith cannot be the killer. Introduced too late. Similarly the OAM,
>> >>the vet, the brothers renaud (whatever!), and sundry people introduced later.
> >
> >I don't think he's the killer, but the One Armed Man *was* introduced in
> >the first episode.  If you look down one of the long hallway shots, you
> >see him exiting an elevator and walking down an intersecting hallway. 
> >Hmmmm...if he was in the hospital then, that kind of lends towards the


that was in episode 2.

david

Previews --

Looks like the Nov 10 will be a musical episode, a la "Cop Rock"

Helen Forrest's lovely version of "Skylark" will play over the opening
credits instead of the usual reverb heavy theme.

Nadine, Ben, and Philip Gerard, will do a trio -- "One Eyed, One Horned,
One Armed, Flying Spiritual Essence Devourer"

Hawk will do a lovely "Owl Be Seeing You" solo, seated atop a white
stallion, defiantly holding aloft a Sharp's buffalo rifle.

Josie confesses to Jacoby to the shooting of Agent Cooper in "Belly High"

Bobby cavorts around Leo singing "Hant Misbehavin." Sample lyric:
"I don't stay out late/ No where to go/ I just sit here drooling/
All over poor Leo "

An odd theme follows -- "The Nightingale Sang (in the parking lot of the
Double R" with a seque into a production number "Top Hat, White Tie, and
Tail Feathers"

Laura's killer slips out the back door un-noticed, while Cooper croons to
Audrey, "I Don't Stand (a Ghost of a Chants with You)"

Closing Credits -- Ann Peebles singing "I Can't Stand the Rain"


-- Jeff Davis davis@keats.ca.uky.edu Nobody knows, from sea to shining sea, why we are having all this trouble with our republic.

In article <90313.1358033IU6YVN@CMUVM.BITNET>, 3IU6YVN@CMUVM.BITNET (John Meixner) writes:
> > Coop wasn't punching Blackie's cousin:  He was giving her CPR!!!

Bleah.

It was pretty neat of Special Agent to catch her hand without looking, though.
-- Eric Olson <fsejo@acad3.fai.alaska.edu> Gryphon Gang Fairbanks AK 99775 "Chez une ane seau litteraire." --Magic Kid (didn't he look JUST like Lynch?)

For Halloween, I was going to go as Agent Cooper,  I had the costume and
everything:1 black suit
           1 black tie (pattern to the tie optional)
           1 small handheld tape recorder (mini casette)
           1 small BB hand gun and shoulder holster
           hair combed back and a lot of funny and weird
           quotes from the show,
           If fact, they were on the tape so I wouldn't
           forget them.

I liked my costume, but at the last moment I changed it and went as the
"Have a nice day" psyco-killer from the comic 'The Tick'.
This costume when over bigger because the people who didn't watch TP
didn't feel out of place, But Everyone there I had forced to read 'The Tick'.

     /     /|             AND GOD SAID....
   /     /  |  \     \        
 /_____/____|____\_____\      
     / \    |    / \          
   /     \  |  /     \        
 /         \|/         \    AND THERE WAS LIGHT!      BLACKTHORNE

> > BTW, does anyone know whether the correct spelling is "Shelley"
> > or "Shelly" or what?
.-.
|A|ccording to the soundtrack (which lists all the character and
`-' actor names from the first season), It's "Shelley."

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.-.
|I|f somebody has the correct text to Andy's "sperm bank" speech,
`-' by all means, send it to one of the quotes list maintainers!
    It goes something like this:

When the Tacoma Sperm Bank was looking for donors, of
course I went.  It's my civic duty, and I like whales.
They told me I was sterile, and I thought that meant
I wouldn't have to take a bath, but then they told me
it meant I couldn't have babies.  So what I want to
know, Lucy Moran, is why you're having one.

    That's from memory, and it's probably inaccurate.

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Now, here's the answer..."Why is Donna acting so slutty (or sleazy)"

First thing, this is David Lynch's work, not a show that is channelled through
DL.  I had a discussion with a person who is very much into movies, and what
he and i both concurred on is the fact that what happen to Donna, in regards
Audrey is a well used device common to David Lynch.
  Both girls' characters transferred over from each other,  Donna turn from a
sweet little innocent girl into a 'slut'.  Where as Audrey who after having
the disscussion with Donna about what each plan to do transfers her character
trait from being 'slut' and bad to being nice and innocent (well not quite).

This is just Lynch's way of saying, "Don't sterotype a character"

These observation of transfer of character can also be seen in Laura's mother
and father.

To sum up....
Donna good, Audrey BAD...
then Audrey good, Donna BAD...
A thousand points of light...
Quale still gaining acceptance...

     /     /|             AND GOD SAID....
   /     /  |  \     \        
 /_____/____|____\_____\      
     / \    |    / \          
   /     \  |  /     \        
 /         \|/         \    AND THERE WAS LIGHT!      BLACKTHORNE