Season 2, Episode 20: The Path to the Black Lodge — April 18–June 09, 1991

In article <9106060012.AA01328@rudedog.saic.com> sdk@RUDEDOG.SAIC.COM (Scott D. Kessler) writes:
> >
> >Since I received quite a number of requests for the
> >Twin Peaks sounds, I thought I'd post them.  
> >Use 'uudecode' to get a file called 'xxxx.au.Z'.
> >Then use 'uncompress to get 'xxxx.au'.
> >
> >  cat xxxx.au > /dev/audio
> >
> >will play the sound.  Have fun. I'm off to get some hot java and
> >cherry pie. 
> >
> >Scott
> >sdk@rudedog.saic.com

[Extremely long posting to non-sources group deleted.]

Gee, I don't suppose you might want to tell us what machine
and OS this is intended for?  (I presume that it's for some
flavor of Unix.)



















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-- Roger Fulton roger@wrq.com

I need help.

I successfully (I think) transfered three file of Mac-Sounds from
audrey.sait.edu.au  TP sounds. eight, ten, and a Multisound file.  But I
can't run them.

What application do I need, and where can I get it?  Is this MacRecorder?

I have Sound master but it will not recognize these files.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Sharon

On Film91 on the BBC on Monday night (repeated Wednesday Evening) Barry
Norman reported that work would soon start on a Twin Peaks movie and that
it would be directed by David Lynch. He said it would include most of the
cast of the current series.

Drew

cczads@uk.ac.nott.vme

I'm fairly certain it is (was - sniff!) sung by
Roy Orbison. 

And I'm also fairly certain it's called:
'Candy Colored Clown'


"There's a candy colored clown they call the Sandman..."


In article <machala.676223223@hcmv2>, machala@hcmv2.ti.com (Chuck Machala ) writes:
|> Anyone know the title and author of the song Ben (Dean Stockwell) sings for
|> Frank (In dreams I walk with you.....)? I tried to extract it from the
|> credits but they were too small and blurry on the video I rented. 
|> Thanks in advance, Chuck Machala

In article <machala.676223223@hcmv2>, machala@hcmv2.ti.com (Chuck Machala ) writes:
|> Anyone know the title and author of the song Ben (Dean Stockwell) sings for
|> Frank (In dreams I walk with you.....)? I tried to extract it from the
|> credits but they were too small and blurry on the video I rented. 
|> Thanks in advance, Chuck Machala

An easy one! :-)

"In Dreams", by the late Roy Orbison.

Brook
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Yes, the entire first series of TP is available as a two-tape
rental job in Australia on PAL format, which is compatable with
Britain, Germany, most of Asia and Africa, Scandinavia and some
other parts of Europe.

The tapes are packaged very handsomely with the Palmer residence's
mantle-piece portrait of Laura gazing out at us on the front
cover.

Copyright legislation in Australia prohibits the retail sale,
mail-order, or even rental outside of the Australian territory ,
of rental video products.

I have friends in the industry who tell me that the distributor is
not offering the product for sale (or "sell-through") at this
stage, however it is slightly grey as to the legality of selling
the tapes second hand, ie after the video rental library has
recouped the purchase price of the product.  These 'used' copies
have been known to be on sale...

So, it is possible to get the product, but as you can see, the
copyright issue (and subsequent dangers of breach) is a little
tricky to get around - caevat emptor - and most of us people in
Australia involved in some kind of media business treat tricky
copyright situations like the black plague...

Further info: Series 2 (another 2 tapes) is due to be released by
the same distributor very soon.  No news on series 3, but since
the last episode of series 2 was shown nationwide in Oz only last
week, then the release is probably a couple of weeks away.

Suggestions:  Find a trusted friend in a large video library in
your home country, and ask if they have any contacts in large
Aussie video libraries, phone or fax that Aussie library and ask
if they can sell you a 'used' copy.
YOU SHOULD NOT PAY MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS !!!

Otherwise, phone or fax the distributor directly, but my feeling
is that they won't wanna know about you 'cause you could be a
copyright thought-police stooge trying to bust them (it happens
here!).

It is after business hours at this time, so I couldn't find the
distributor's name, but if you're really desparate, e-mail or
respond to me and I'll be pleased to help out however I can.

Think of a free Tibet.

Pari.

from Australian Pegasus Network  id: passn8

machala@hcmv2.ti.com (Chuck Machala ) writes:

> > Anyone know the title and author of the song Ben (Dean Stockwell) sings
> > for Frank (In dreams I walk with you.....)? 

"In Dreams", by Roy Orbison.

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In article <1991Jun6.214549.13027@cs.cmu.edu> kwh+@RI.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann) writes:
> >
> >Why is the the 'Yellow' man still standing with a hole in his head?
> >
> >
> >How dey do dat?
> >
> >
> >Kevin

    Good question! I wondered that myself. Just one of those things we
    must marvel at, I guess.

    Did anybody else guess that the well dressed man was Frank Booth
    before the ending? I say this knowing that 'spoilers' is in the 
    subject heading, so if I just blew the movie for you...sorry.

Yup, that's a human ear alright!
Tom

Where can I find the episode numbers that are frequently used in
postings?  Are they actually shown at the end of the show, or do
you just have to know the Lynch/Frost numbering system?

--
Brian Baer
Hewlett-Packard CompanyARPA: bbaer@sdd.hp.com
San Diego SiteUUCP: hplabs!hp-sdd!bbaer

The reason why I'm asking this question is because I ordered a COOP
T-shirt over a month ago and the check's been cashed, but as of yet, no
shirt.  Has COOP folded?  And if so, is there any way I can get my
money back?  Fiona?  Bob Cappel?  Can anyone answer this question?
Thanks.


--Jeff "Koganuts" Koga

Rigor Mortis?

I loved David Lynch's sort of pulp names for characters, "The
One-Armed Man" (not original, but still!), "The Well-dressed Man",
"The Yellow Man", "The Man From Another Place", "The Log Lady", etc.
Actually they sort of sound like something out of a Big Little Book.
I can just picture the crude black and white cartoon image with the
caption "Suddenly the One-Armed Man Screamed!". With a little
flip-book in the margins featuring an owl or something (nostalgic
sigh!).

- Dan
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In article <APPEL.91May30013019@con.xcf.Berkeley.EDU> appel@xcf.Berkeley.EDU (Shannon D. Appel) writes:
> >The Prisoner newsgroup, on a show almost two decades old has been getting
> >more traffic all day than the Twin Peaks newsgroup.  What does this
> >tell us about longevity, boy and girls?

     It's still pretty inactive, as newsgroups go.  alt.tv.prisoner
seems to average about a post a day.  (At my site, 14 posts have
been received in the last 10 days.)
     Hmm...  Let's see, to make things interesting, how about a
poll?  List your favorite episodes, in order.  I'll assign 17 points
for every first place vote, 16 points for every second place vote,
and so on, and we'll see which episodes do the best.  For reference,
here is a list of the episodes:

Arrival
Free for All
Dance of the Dead
Checkmate
Chimes of Big Ben
The General
A, B, & C
The Schizoid Man
Many Happy Returns
It's Your Funeral
Do Not Forsake Me, Oh My Darling
Living in Harmony
A Change of Mind
Hammer into Anvil
The Girl who was Death
Once Upon a Time
Fall Out
 
We'll ignore the "Alternate" versions of "Chimes of Big Ben" and
"Arrival."  We'll fight the urge to ignore "Do Not Forsake...," and
we'll give it its one point for everybody who votes.  :-)

Tony

machala@hcmv2.ti.com (Chuck Machala ) writes:

> >Anyone know the title and author of the song Ben (Dean Stockwell) sings for
> >Frank (In dreams I walk with you.....)? I tried to extract it from the
> >credits but they were too small and blurry on the video I rented. 
> >Thanks in advance, Chuck Machala

Title: In Dreams
Singer: Roy Orbison

In article <1991Jun6.232439.5639@yenta.alb.nm.us>, lazlo@yenta.alb.nm.us (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
|> > Anyone know the title and author of the song Ben (Dean Stockwell) sings
|> > for Frank (In dreams I walk with you.....)? 
|> 
|> "In Dreams", by Roy Orbison.

Okay, so poular opinion says I'm wrong.  And I'm not even in good
company with my error, since it is Frank who tells his lacky to play 
'Candy Colored Clown' while he pummels Muad D'ib.

I'd like to see Cooper do the Chicken walk.  Annie would love it.

Kevin

u5434700@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:

> >Peaks has been replaced (at least this week) in Australia, and we've
> >only just seen Leland die!!! Channel 10 (in receivership) are showing
> >"LA law 100th episode", a self-congratulatory documentary, in place of it.
> >Maybe Arnie is BOB's next port-of-call?

I didn't hear that, I would have picked it up if they had said it at the end of last weeks episode?
Who told you that.
I am extremely dissapointed in Australia if this is correct.

> >Ross.
Hey that's me too...

Thanks...
Ross Bennetts...
rbennett@loki.une.oz.au

I don't think I am talking to my self.....

> >06-Jun-91 15:47machala@hcmv2.ti.com (Chuck Machala )
> >Anyone know the title and author of the song Ben (Dean Stockwell) sings for
> >Frank (In dreams I walk with you.....)? I tried to extract it from the
> >credits but they were too small and blurry on the video I rented. 
> >Thanks in advance, Chuck Machala

The song is called "In Dreams", and is by the late, great Roy Orbison.

What I would like to know, if anyone out there knows, is who does
"Love Letters from the Heart", which plays near the end of the movie?
I asked this before and the only answer I got was incorrect.

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Yes, we see the sign before commercials.  I don't have a clear enough copy
to check the numbers though.

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In article <1991Jun6.214549.13027@cs.cmu.edu> kwh+@RI.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann) writes:

   Why is the the 'Yellow' man still standing with a hole in his head?
   How dey do dat?

In an interview, David Lynch said that the yellow man was supposed to
still be alive in a state of shock.


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This may sound callous, but is intended as a joke...
If you have heart problems, you might die if you SEE it, too!

Brian

In article <CHARI.91Jun7105754@sonia.ma.utexas.edu> chari@sonia.ma.utexas.edu (Christopher M. Whatley) writes:
> >
> >In article <1991Jun6.214549.13027@cs.cmu.edu> kwh+@RI.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann) writes:
> >
> >   Why is the the 'Yellow' man still standing with a hole in his head?
> >   How dey do dat?
> >
> >In an interview, David Lynch said that the yellow man was supposed to
> >still be alive in a state of shock.
> >
> > Chris Whatley                              |    

I had assumed that the yellow man was in some sort of vegetative state
near death, but had not yet lost enough blood or autonervous function
to die.  The main reason I thought this was because when his radio started
blaring, his arm jerked up in front of him.  That sort of precludes rigor
mortis.  Of course, he was destined to die soon as Frank was on his way.
Great imagery as Frank made the yellow man sit down.  Blam!

Kiss me Jeffery Beaumont!

Michael

The song is "In Dreams" by Roy Orbison (recorded by him, anyway).  Apparently Stockwell lipsynched it on an Orbison tribute show on cable last spring--truly perverse!

Cheers--MVB

"What's the sense in ever thinkin' 'bout the tomb/When you're much too 
busy returning to the womb?"--TMBG
Disclaimer:  Not my planet, monkeyboy!

Hi,
We missed the last 4 erpisode of twin peaks, which I think were  aired
in spring time

does anyone have them, that I could copy them, or borrow or something?

Bert
rl27@andrew.cmu.edu

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From: TODD FURESZ <FURESZ@KIDS.wustl.edu>
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Subject: After June 10th
To: alt-tv-twin-peaks@ucbvax.berekeley.edu
 
I somehow have this feeling that I am going to very much enjoy the 2 hour 
season finale on the 10th.  It will be afterwards that I will long for many
more episodes and adventures in our fav northwest mill town.  It will only be
after the 10th that it will hit me just how good an interesting a show this
has been (although I already have that feeling and have for more than a year).
It is the old saying you never appreciate something as much as you should
until it is gone.  I hope Peaks will return in some form.  What is the 
current status of the show going on as is in syndication or cable or of 
a big screen movie.  I just gotta have more Peaks after the 10th.
 
Todd
 
PS  I also gotta point out how great reading the net has been for the 10
months or so I have been into it.  It has really made my experience much
better and I hope I can continue reading your many interesting quips in
the future.

In article <1991Jun6.024026.773@risky.ecs.umass.edu> giovin@medr0.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:

> >
> >   In article <1991Jun6.003923.2542@ccu.umanitoba.ca> platt@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:
> >
> >   >23. Venus and Saturn: The statue (presumably of Venus) and the model 
> >   >of Saturn in the dream sequence may refer to the myth of Saturn, who killed 
> >   >his children. However, Venus was the daughter of Jupiter, not Saturn.
> >   Hmmm... there is the BOB=Saturn=bad god, Leland=Jupiter=good
> >   god, Laura=Venus=daughter of good god analogy.
There is another version of Venus's birth that has her springing from
the foam of the sea after one god threw the castrated genitals of his
father god into the sea.  I believe it was Jupiter who castrated his
father Saturn as revenge for Saturn's having swallowed all his
children, but it could have been Saturn castrating Uranus.  Looks as
though fatherhood among the figures of myth can be as ambiguous as
among characters in Twin Peaks.

Barb Miller

In article <284EBE7C.CF30@ibma0.cs.uiuc.edu>, noe@sunc5.cs.uiuc.edu (Roger Noe) writes:
> > In article <Devin_Davidson.3208@tptbbs.UUCP> Devin_Davidson@tptbbs.UUCP (Devin Davidson) writes:
>> >>For all my days I shall remember this line..
>> >>`Fire, come walk with me'
> > 
> > Unfortunately you'll be remembering the wrong line.  "Fire, walk with me."
> > 
> > As for me, I'll never be able to forget "Wrapped in plastic" and "Sometimes
> > my arms bend back."  

I use 'Aces' and 'He has a poor sense of recreation' a lot.  Though the most
memorable for me is 'The owls are not what they seem.'

--Cool Bean
-- **This is not cultural.

In article <91157.103950LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA>, LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA writes...
> > 
> >       TWIN PEAKS finale will be run opposite the first repeat of NORTHERN
> > EXPOSURE. Since these audiences are similar , there may be problems.

Yeah, but I think you can defnitely say that the TWIN PEAKS audience is for 
the most part a subset of the NORTHERN EXPOSURE audience. 


 daniel david mittleman                                     danny@arizona.edu
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Hi!  Sorry for the delay in sending the file to all of you, but I was
swamped with requests.  I will answer all of them, but it will be a while,
as I am leaving for a 9 day vacation this afternoon.  Sorry about that
folks, but you will get your file very soon after that.

In article <6023@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (Chris Tavares) writes:
> >In article <91157.103950LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA>, LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA writes:

>> >>        TWIN PEAKS finale will be run opposite the first repeat of NORTHERN
>> >>  EXPOSURE. Since these audiences are similar , there may be problems.

> >Let's see a show of hands.  How many of you REALLY BELIEVED that ABC couldn't
> >find ONE final way to **** up the scheduling of Twin Peaks?  Uh huh.

I don't see the "****"-up.  Are you saying that ABC should have
deliberately arranged their schedule so that viewers could watch a
show on a *competing network*?  Exactly where has ABC "****"ed up
here?  Simply by failing to recognize the world revolves around the
tastes of a view Twin Peaks viewers?

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "All wax is wedding wax" --Gertrude Stein

The list of Twin Peaks references recently posted could also include Harry
Truman.. and not just in reference to the former U.S. president. As I recall,
the name of the man who lived near Spirit Lake under Mt. St. Helens (yes, in
WASHINGTON...) and refused to move from his home despite the warning of
volcanic eruption was named Harry Truman, as well.

So it's a washington state reference, in addition to being a presidential
reference. Kinda cool. Doubt it's simply coincidence. Especially considering
that this is Twin Peaks we're talking about.

Some friends of mine and I are gonna go eat dinner Monday night (as a break
from Finals week), and then have some donuts and pie as we watch the last TWIN
PEAKS... should be fun. Too bad the ride's coming to an end. At least there
seems to be a movie in the works...

-jason


-- Jason Snell / jsnell@ucsd.edu / University of California, San Diego "Of course, Shakespeare would have loved your ratings system-- 'Twelfth Night' would have been lucky to have lasted one!" --Max Headroom

In article <91157.103950LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA>, LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA writes:
> > 
> >        TWIN PEAKS finale will be run opposite the first repeat of NORTHERN
> >  EXPOSURE. Since these audiences are similar , there may be problems.

Let's see a show of hands.  How many of you REALLY BELIEVED that ABC couldn't
find ONE final way to **** up the scheduling of Twin Peaks?  Uh huh.

-- cdt@pdp.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...

In article <6897@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
> > In article <6023@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (Chris Tavares) writes:
>> > >In article <91157.103950LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA>, LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA writes:
> > 
>>> > >>        TWIN PEAKS finale will be run opposite the first repeat of NORTHERN
>>> > >>  EXPOSURE. Since these audiences are similar , there may be problems.
> > 
>> > >Let's see a show of hands.  How many of you REALLY BELIEVED that ABC couldn't
>> > >find ONE final way to **** up the scheduling of Twin Peaks?  Uh huh.
> > 
> > I don't see the "****"-up.  Are you saying that ABC should have
> > deliberately arranged their schedule so that viewers could watch a
> > show on a *competing network*?  Exactly where has ABC "****"ed up
> > here?  Simply by failing to recognize the world revolves around the
> > tastes of a view Twin Peaks viewers?

And you mean you DON'T think programmers (in theory, anyway) are paid to
worry about what's on opposite shows they are thinking of running?!

Well, surely it is too much to expect ABC to put program X in the schedule
at a time when people interested in program X are MORE likely, rather than 
LESS likely, to watch it.  If the idea is to get people to watch the program 
(say, that IS the idea of commercial television, is it not?) one would think 
programmers would have the brains to maximize their chances, not minimize them.
Northern Exposure is already figuring as the primary maintenance mode for
abandoned Twin Peaks junkies.  It would have made MORE sense to put it opposite
Cosby! -- they probably would have avoided splitting their own market.

Hey, I better stop now, or ABC may think up another clever idea, like
showing it at 3 AM Sunday morning.

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In article <1991Jun7.151442.12902@pbs.org>, mpax@pbs.org (Cool Bean) writes:

|> > Unfortunately you'll be remembering the wrong line.  "Fire, walk with me."
|> > As for me, I'll never be able to forget "Wrapped in plastic" and "Sometimes
|> > my arms bend back."  
|> I use 'Aces' and 'He has a poor sense of recreation' a lot.  Though the most
|> memorable for me is 'The owls are not what they seem.'

My friends and I are always using "Good work, Coop!"  with thumbs in air.

I don't think this was ever said, since Cooper is usually
the one giving the complimemt,  but it's fun anyway.

My favorite time that he used it was on Hawk.   He asked Hawk to get a file
for him.   When Hawk did so,  Coop said, "Good work, Hawk!"

It doesn't take much to please Cooper.

Kevin

In article <6029@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (Chris Tavares) writes:

> >And you mean you DON'T think programmers (in theory, anyway) are paid to
> >worry about what's on opposite shows they are thinking of running?!

No, it's well-known that programmers are paid to do just that--and
respond *just* as they are in this case.  Ever wonder why all the good
shows are on at the same time?  Ever wonder why Fox picked the Cosby
show to program the Simpsons head-to-head with?

> >Well, surely it is too much to expect ABC to put program X in the schedule
> >at a time when people interested in program X are MORE likely, rather than 
> >LESS likely, to watch it.  If the idea is to get people to watch the program 
> >(say, that IS the idea of commercial television, is it not?) one would think 
> >programmers would have the brains to maximize their chances, not
> >minimize them. 

But there's more going on than that.  They're not just trying to
maximize their viewers, they're trying to *minimize* CBS' viewers.
It's called counterprogramming.  I've never figured out whether the
underlying logic is sound, but it's the standard philosophy of network
programming.  In fact, ABC deliberately flouted it by programming TP
in Saturdays, in competition with nothing, and look what it got
them--a lot of bitching and practically subzero ratings.

> >Northern Exposure is already figuring as the primary maintenance mode for
> >abandoned Twin Peaks junkies.  

*Exactly*.  And this is a BAD thing, from ABC's perspective.  Now, TP
is virtually useless to ABC as a ratings-getter, at this point.
However, it *is* possible for them to use it as a counterprogramming
kamikaze, to try to submarine the growth of the Northern Exposure
audience, and that's what they're using it for.  In NE ABC has a
competing show that has marginal survival chances in the short-term
(mediocre ratings, already been jerked around by CBS), but with
long-term potential (good demographics, growing audience).  ABC wants
to do everything it can to ensure that NE gets cancelled before it has
a chance to catch on.  Now if it does have the same audience as TP,
what better way to clobber it than to counterprogram the big TP
finale?

(Actually, the June 10 timeslot was set months ago--was NE even back
on the air then?  Who counterprogrammed who?)

> >It would have made MORE sense to put it opposite
> >Cosby! -- they probably would have avoided splitting their own market.

Maybe.  Game-theoretically speaking, I'm not sure which is the best
strategy.  But to blame ABC specifically for following the standard
dogma of commercial programmers everywhere is silly.  ABC seems to be
able to do nothing right, in the opinion of the readers of this
newsgroup, and I agree they've made a lot of mistakes, but to blame
them for the demise of TP is a mistake--TP's failure had *lots* more
to do with the show itself than with programming strategy at ABC.

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "All wax is wedding wax" --Gertrude Stein

dan@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:

> > Rigor Mortis?
> > 
> > I loved David Lynch's sort of pulp names for characters, "The
> > One-Armed Man" (not original, but still!), "The Well-dressed Man",
> > "The Yellow Man", "The Man From Another Place", "The Log Lady", etc.
> > Actually they sort of sound like something out of a Big Little Book.

I still keep expecting to see Curious George when I hear about "The 
Yellow Man" in Blue Velvet... :)

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> > ...best of all, a mime version of thirtysomething?

A mime version would be the best kind.  thirtysomething would be more tolerable
 if it were silent.  As to the movie, I think it would perhaps be a better idea
 to simply release TP videos instead of the theater (I mean financially, of cou
rse) or even to show them as a movie of the week (on ANOTHER network, what abou
t Lifetime or USA?)

  Passing the days...
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In article <1991Jun7.002855.7017@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> selegue@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Thomas Selegue) writes:

> >In article <1991Jun6.214549.13027@cs.cmu.edu> kwh+@RI.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann) writes:
>> >>
>> >>Why is the the 'Yellow' man still standing with a hole in his head?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>How dey do dat?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Kevin

> >    Good question! I wondered that myself. Just one of those things we
> >    must marvel at, I guess.


> >Yup, that's a human ear alright!
> >Tom

No!  No!  "Just one of those things we must marvel
at" is not satisfactory!  I have wondered the same
thing myself, and I don't think Lynch is that
arbitrary in his methods, is he?  Of course, I don't
subscribe to the theory that every little thing in
his films is wrought with meaning, but a dead guy
standing erect?  How much nerve does this guy have,
expecting us just to swallow that in the name of
"weirdness" or "marvels"?  What I'm saying is that I
wouldn't really accept any of Lynch's films if they
were weird purely for the sake of weird, and I don't
think many other people would, either. 

Zelig

Well, actually, I sincererly hope it is *NOT* the last show, but...

The episode that the rest of the US at least will see on June 10, will be
uplinked by Global Television (the Canadian network) on Sunday, June 9 at
3:00pm East coast time.  So lucky folks with a satellite dish will
want to tune into D1/04 (that's Anik 1, channel 4) this Sunday (noon for
us folks here in the Pacific time zone)!
-- -larryy@apple.com "You wouldn't recognize a *subtle plan* if it painted itself purple, and danced naked upon a harpsichord, singing, 'Subtle Plans are Here Again'." - Edmund Blackadder

rbennett@loki.une.oz.au (Ross Bennetts) writes:
> >       I didn't hear that, I would have picked it up if they had said
> > it at the end of last weeks episode?  Who told you that.  I am
> > extremely dissapointed in Australia if this is correct.

You must have fallen asleep because they did say it at the end of last
weeks episode.  They also stated firmly that it would return the following
week - it is just so they can have their LA Law special (yuk :)

ant

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In article <11947@hub.ucsb.edu> 6600powr@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Zelig) writes:

> >   No!  No!  "Just one of those things we must marvel
> >   at" is not satisfactory!  I have wondered the same
> >   thing myself, and I don't think Lynch is that
> >   arbitrary in his methods, is he?  Of course, I don't
> >   subscribe to the theory that every little thing in
> >   his films is wrought with meaning, but a dead guy
> >   standing erect?  How much nerve does this guy have,
> >   expecting us just to swallow that in the name of
> >   "weirdness" or "marvels"?  What I'm saying is that I
> >   wouldn't really accept any of Lynch's films if they
> >   were weird purely for the sake of weird, and I don't
> >   think many other people would, either. 

Lynch has been totally arbitrary on many occasions, just for effect.
We've all heard about how hewrote in The Giant on the basis of having
seen the actor in passing.  The famous shot of the deer's head on the
Police Station table was another case of "it just happened to be
there", and of course, the introduction of Bob, purely on the basis of
the fact that Lynch noticed that Frank Silva looked kind of sinister
lurking at the foot of Laura's bed.

The scene in BV of Frank blustering in, in a "yellow man disguise",
ranting and raving, while Jeffrey hid in the closet and the real
yellow man stood in a state of rigor mortis is one of the most
chilling things I've ever seen in a movie.

This is one of the reasons that I'm not terribly upset by the demise
of Twin Peaks.  To me, TP was simply the latest and most grandiose of
David Lynch's examinations of his own surreal worldview.  The elements
that BV shares with TP and "Wild at Heart", and "Eraserhead" and other
Lynch projects all seem to blur together after a while.  The recurring
images of fire in "Wild at Heart" seem to blend seamlessly with the
similar fire imagery in TP.  The symbolic dreams, the weird sexuality,
the sinister people who dominate people in obscure ways (Frank and Bob
don't seem terribly dissimilar) and the underlying sense that this is
all some sort of bizarre Hardy Boys adventure pervade Lynch's work.

The next project, whether it's a new TP movie, "Ronnie Rocket" or "On
The Air" will undoubtedly fulfill my need for new Lynch stuff, because
it will undoubtedly be an extension of the ideas he formulated with
each earlier work.

I look forward to it.

- Dan

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In article <...> Jennifer Quirin writes:

> >What I would like to know, if anyone out there knows, is who does
> >"Love Letters from the Heart", which plays near the end of the movie?

The cover of my CD with the original motion picture soundtrack from
Blue Velvet says that "Love Letter" is performed by Ketty Lester.

- Frode        Internet: frodo@idt.unit.no

this is a post for a friend.  don't read this group, but he does & can't post.
please respond to this group.

his question is:

what does the message (I think it was in the finale) say once it's decoded?


Ron


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Hi there

Posting this for a friend (hi Erik!)...

Did you notice that in the first season, Cooper and Truman found
Leo's shirt with the blood on it and identified the blood as Jaques', saying
the type was AB (negative). Later on in the show they said the "third man"
had a very rare blood type - AB (negative).  They then said that neither
Jaques nor Leo had this blood-type.....

Anyone else pick this up????


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RI5@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

> >    Although it's no longer on ABC, "Twin Peaks" will resurface as a big-scree
> > flick, according to Hollywood insiders.  David Lynch will direct the movie
> > version of his mondo-bizarro series, which will star almost everybody from th
> > TV cast.  It will be double duty for "Peaks" semiregular Miguel Ferrer, who
> > played forensics expert Albert Rosenfield.

What's this about "double duty"? Does it mean that Ferrer will be playing
two roles?

It is happening again.      It is happening again.      It is happening again.
Joe Zitt ...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe (512)450-1916

czahrt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Special Agent Dale Cooper aka The Bob) writes:

> > My opinion is that Bob Lydecker is to BOB as PM Gerard is to MIKE.  Since Dr.
> > Lydecker is in a coma, BOB is allowed to run free.

Hmm... This is a cool idea, but I would doubt it from a somewhat practical
viewpoint: From what I recall, Dr. Lydecker has not been mentioned at all
since somewhere around the middle of the first season. I doubt even TP would
hinge a plot on a character that the majority of their audience has probably
completely forgotten.

It is happening again.      It is happening again.      It is happening again.
Joe Zitt ...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe (512)450-1916

In response to:

> >Anyone know the title and author of the song Ben (Dean Stockwell) sings for
> >Frank (In dreams I walk with you.....)? I tried to extract it from the
> >credits but they were too small and blurry on the video I rented.
> >Thanks in advance, Chuck Machala

The song is "In Dreams", written by Roy Orbison.
The version used in the film was sung by Roy, re-recorded in 1987 
(and co-produced by David Lynch, w/ Orbison and T-Bone Burnett).
This recording, along with 18 other Orbison classics re-recorded in 1985, 
is available on "In Dreams: The Greatest Hits" (Virgin 2-90604).
Highly recommended.

-Steve Marcovici  AT&T Bell Laboratories  Liberty Corner

A while ago, someone posted the poem about Jupiter and Saturn that WE
recited at the end of the last episode.  (I'd quote it, but I can't
remember where I put it.)  The verse after the one Windom quoted refers to
Venus and Mars.  Although Jupiter and Saturn are about as far as they can
get away from a conjunction right now, Venus and Mars are headed for a
conjunction!  The Old Farmers Almanac lists the date as June 23, but
they're fairly close right now and make a nice sight.  (Jupiter is also
near and will be getting nearer!)  Just go out after sunset, before it
becomes totally dark, and look West.  The brightest object you see, easily
visible before anything else, is Venus.  Jupiter is dimmer but still
brighter than any star, and is to the upper left of Venus.  Mars is between
the two, but is considerably dimmer -- you'll probably have to wait until
almost dark to see it, but you can't mistake it for a star because of its
position.

Have fun, and don't get abducted!

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Article #51877 (537:8 is last):
Newsgroups: freenet.pub-sq.kiosk
From: keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely)
Subject: Triple Peaks (episode 1)
Reply-To: keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely)
Date: Tue Feb 19 19:06:17 1991


It was a dark and stormy night...
(The scene opens with a pan of one of the spectacular beaches of Lake Erie.
The waves are crashing violently upon the shore, lightning explodes thunder-
ously in the sky.  The camera returns to the beach, looking out on the lake,
where a tidal wave seems to be rolling in)

Cameraman: oh my God!
(coughing, sputtering, and screaming from the cameraman suddenly end as the
wave recedes.  The camera focuses in on a huge mound of plastic.  Going
around to the other side of this mound we see that a body is wrapped inside of
it.  Upon closer inspection we find out it is the body of Shari with all of
her once-glorious RED hair thrown about her face...Fade out...)

(stuff deleted)

Scene VI

Bruce/Burce:  Stop it!  You're killing my mommy!
Mike:  I'll smash him to a bloody pulp if I have to...that'll teach him not
        to sleep with Shari again!
Larry:  I told you!  It wasn't like that!
(In a burst of rage, Bruce/Burce stares at Mike...flames shoot out of
Bruce/Burce's eyes and ingulf Mike.  Mike screams and falls unconscious...

Scene VII

Mike is in a chair.  Shari is in a chair at the opposite end of the room.

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Hate to be picky but isn't it "I'd rather have a *full* bottle in front
of me than a frontal lobotomy"
Maybe Tom Waits got it wrong?? Dunno...

love
Laurel xx

| Laurel Papworth                 | "At any moment I could start being a  |
| Professional Course Development |  better person -                      |
| The University of Adelaide      |     But which moment should I choose? |

In denmark the ending's gonna be send in two parts by request of David
Lynch. The National TV1 planned to send the final as double but Lynch
asked them to do it in a two-parse. So we're seeing the episode
directed by Tim Hunter on this coming Thursday and the Lynch/Frost
episode next Thursday. How come you guys in the states don't do the
same? 

The TV1 also said that Lynch were trying to get some European TV
stations to take over where ABC so poorly has let us all down and that
they were more than interested in bying a new run of our favorite
series if Lynch had success in his try.
TV1 also stated that Twin-Peaks had a 15% viewing rate in Denmark and
the station were satisfied with that. Hip Hurra for the minority!

Thanks to all the people posting here and letting us inside *their*
view on the most important thing, this side of the world.
c u all in the shadows.............

Lars Flesner --- squash@iesd.auc.dk -- Aalborg University.
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In article <6029@lectroid.sw.stratus.com>, cdt@sw.stratus.com (Chris Tavares) writes:
> > In article <6897@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
>> >> In article <6023@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (Chris Tavares) writes:
>>> >> >In article <91157.103950LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA>, LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA writes:
>> >> 
>>>> >> >>        TWIN PEAKS finale will be run opposite the first repeat of NORTHERN
>>>> >> >>  EXPOSURE. Since these audiences are similar , there may be problems.
>> >> 
>>> >> >Let's see a show of hands.  How many of you REALLY BELIEVED that ABC couldn't
>>> >> >find ONE final way to **** up the scheduling of Twin Peaks?  Uh huh.
>> >> 
>> >> I don't see the "****"-up.  Are you saying that ABC should have
>> >> deliberately arranged their schedule so that viewers could watch a
>> >> show on a *competing network*?  Exactly where has ABC "****"ed up
>> >> here?  Simply by failing to recognize the world revolves around the
>> >> tastes of a view Twin Peaks viewers?
> > 
> > And you mean you DON'T think programmers (in theory, anyway) are paid to
> > worry about what's on opposite shows they are thinking of running?!
> > 
> > Well, surely it is too much to expect ABC to put program X in the schedule
> > at a time when people interested in program X are MORE likely, rather than 
> > LESS likely, to watch it.  If the idea is to get people to watch the program 
> > (say, that IS the idea of commercial television, is it not?) one would think 
> > programmers would have the brains to maximize their chances, not minimize them.
> > Northern Exposure is already figuring as the primary maintenance mode for
> > abandoned Twin Peaks junkies.  It would have made MORE sense to put it opposite
> > Cosby! -- they probably would have avoided splitting their own market.
> > 
Once again, we in Nova Scotia can consider ourselves privileged. Not only will 
we be the first to see the LAST EPISODE, at 9 PM ADT(Atlantic Daylight Time) -
8 PM EDT, but it will be over just in time to watch NE at 11:00 ADT.
If you really want to prove that you're a twin-peaks freak, move to Nova Scotia
by 9 tomorrow night. Or you could just buy a satellite dish.

 
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Okay.  Frank was in a "well-dressed man disguise" not a "yellow man disguise".

Gad, that makes more sense.  I apologize.

"Do I contradict myself?  It is because I contain multitudes"
-- Mark Twain 
(quote probably inaccurate - see above)

- D
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Northern Exposure? A possible TP substitute? Dream on. Although they 
would never admit it, the producers of NE obviously intended to emulate TP. 
What bothers me about shows like NE is that they borrow the superficial 
aspects of shows like TP and add little of their own. Last week, NBC ran a 
TV movie called Murder In High Places about a Colarado resort that had some 
similarities to you-know-what, but without the finesse. If TP's greatest 
legacy is that the networks try more shows about small Northwestern 
towns with "wacky" characters, then maybe Lynch and Frost shouldn't have 
bothered. I haven't seen much of NE, but it seems like the audience is asked 
to identify with an outsider character who is cynical towards Alaska (sort 
of an Albert figure) rather than someone who looks with awe, like Cooper. 
I'd like to think that (Andy Brennan and Nadine notwithstanding) TP never 
tries (tried?) to made fun of the residents of the town. Even in the comic 
parts (with a few lapses, like the Pine-Weasel riot scene), the humour 
comes  out of a sense of the weirdness of it all, not a sense of 
malice. So count me out as one of the TP fans who will "jump ship" to NE.

Dan Parmenter writes that he doesn't feel too bad about  TP's demise 
because of the similar themes in all of Lynch's works. I agree to an extent, 
but I think that Dan is underestimating the contribution of Mark 
Frost. Frost not only thought up much of the characters and themes  
(although admittedly Lynch probably came up with the majority of the visual 
imagery) but wrote more episodes than Lynch directed and directed one of 
my favorite non-Lynch episodes; Lynch had rarely used the supernatural, for 
example, before TP. Frost also has a keen ability to neatly weave taut cliff-
hangers into Lynch's weird mysteries; due to his stint on Hill Street Blues, 
Frost knows how to tighten a drama up for TV. As much as I love Lynch's 
work, I feel that Frost is an equal partner in the creation of TP.

Finally, if TP indeed resurfaces as another series on HBO, Showtime, 
Lifetime, or USA, it will really piss me (and a lot of other Canadians 
without sattelite dishes) off.  We can get only a few American cable 
channels in 
Canada.

Dave Platt,
Winnipeg,
Manitoba, Canada

In article <3594@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> laurel@cs.adelaide.edu.au (Laurel) writes:

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   Hate to be picky but isn't it "I'd rather have a *full* bottle in front
   of me than a frontal lobotomy"
   Maybe Tom Waits got it wrong?? Dunno...


Actually, I think in the Tom Waits song, the full line was "I'd rather have a
bottle in front of me than have to have a frontal lobotomy."  It appeared
as printed in Murray's .sig in "Existential Blues" by Tom "T-Bone" Stankas.

In article <1991Jun9.203806.24781@ccu.umanitoba.ca> platt@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dave Platt) writes:

> >Northern Exposure? A possible TP substitute? Dream on. Although they 
> >would never admit it, the producers of NE obviously intended to
> >emulate TP. 

"Obviously"?  I imagine NE was in the pipeline for quite a while
before TP came out.  In fact, I think many of the similarities people
note really aren't that compelling.  The most obvious one, the "wacky
small-town" setting, is, as you yourself see, handled quite differently.

> >What bothers me about shows like NE is that they borrow the superficial 
> >aspects of shows like TP and add little of their own. 

Horseshit.  If NE is indeed derivative (and I suppose it is, to some
extent), it's St. Elsewhere that it owes a lot of its style to, and
the other character-driven comedy-dramas of the 80s.  NE has
acknowledged TP, but that doesn't mean that they built their show
around the TP approach.

> >I haven't seen much of NE, 

"Obviously."

> >but it seems like the audience is asked 
> >to identify with an outsider character who is cynical towards Alaska (sort 
> >of an Albert figure) rather than someone who looks with awe, like
> >Cooper. 

So why the charge of similarity?  

At any rate, the idea that we're asked to "identify" with Joel (the
alleged Albert figure) is way off.  Joel is (most of the time) a
jerk--a whingeing, spoiled, self-impressed, parochial, obnoxious,
insulting snob--not a character that's exactly designed to get the
viewer's sympathy.  He is "basically good down deep" (this being
mainstream TV), but he's not easy to identify with.  In fact. .  .

> >I'd like to think that (Andy Brennan and Nadine notwithstanding) TP never 
> >tries (tried?) to made fun of the residents of the town. Even in the comic 
> >parts (with a few lapses, like the Pine-Weasel riot scene), the humour 
> >comes  out of a sense of the weirdness of it all, not a sense of 
> >malice. 

. . . I think the viewers (and the producers) usually identify with
the residents of the town, who have to suffer this clown's attitude,
and do it with patience, tolerance and good humor.  This is, at some
level, the point of the show: Joel is a jerk, but the townspeople
accept him anyway, because they're *better* people than he is, or
allows himself to be.  I don't find any particular malice in this
portrayal.  Even the most broadly drawn characters (Ed, Maurice) are
essentially sympathetic, and some (Marilyn, Chris) are depicted as
downright wise, much more so than Joel.  The ending scenes to two
recent episodes (the "marathon" and the scene where everyone,
including the gay couple, slow dances in the tavern) have shown a
close-knit, accepting, loving community.  In no way is Cicely depicted
as the town full of bumpkins and freaks that you seem to think it is.
TP is *much* more guilty of condescension to small-town people than NE
is.

NE isn't perfect by a long shot, but it's also not guilty of the sins
you accuse it of.

> >So count me out as one of the TP fans who will "jump ship" to NE.

I'm sure we'll survive.  Bye.

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "All wax is wedding wax" --Gertrude Stein

Finished reading a friend's copy of THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF F.B.I. SPECIAL
AGENT DALE COOPER. MY LIFE, MY TAPES. ISBN 067174003.
 
It is a great book - it kind of brought back some memories from my 
teen years!!!! Easy to read - I finished it in one night and it brings
some real insight into the way 
Cooper thinks (especially in regards to woman).
 
I also just got WELCOME TO TWIN PEAKS ACCESS GUIDE TO THE TOWN. 
ISBN 0671743996 
 
Haven't had a chance to look through it yet, but it is the same
company that publishes the ACCESS Guides for cities around the 
world (Richard Saul Wurman is the author/editor of the ACCESS
Guides).
 
blevinso@copper.ucs.indiana.edu

In article <10640007@hpsciz.sc.hp.com> miller@hpsciz.sc.hp.com (Phil Miller) writes:

 I'm still here, Ann.  I think everybody else is in Korea watching
   The Simpsons.

Yeah, but in whose movie?

-30-
Bob

I've just finished watching the whole series, two episodes a week
(Once Upona Time & Fallout the same week of couse). I think Twin Peaks
and The Prisoner have a number of simularities, especially in the disparate
but related ironic humorous tone that underlies the entire run of The
Prisoner but only certain episodes of TP.
 
By the way, I've watched Fall Out twice & I just don't get two things:
1. Is it really Patrick McGoohan under the gorilla mask>?
2. Why do they shoot everyone at the end? It would seem unnecessary.

In article <DAN.91Jun9220724@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> dan@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:

> >"Do I contradict myself?  It is because I contain multitudes"
> >-- Mark Twain 

This is the Antiterran version of the famous Walt Whitman quote.

Same diff.


-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "All wax is wedding wax" --Gertrude Stein

Something I don't think I've seen people mention, which I noticed
when watching the dream sequence (not the flashback to it) after
seeing a few episodes...  Laura makes the Bookhouse Boys signal
to Cooper..


Daniel Bowen
-- Raymond Luxury-Yacht a.k.a. DANIEL BOWEN | Counselling on banana addiction Monash University, Melbourne, Australia | is obtainable from a free edb134tbp2@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au +-------+ information service run by edb134t@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au --+ the Banana Offensive. [TCWF]

Id love to hear the TP sounds on a sparc.

Can you mail them to me at:
     MICHAEL_LASHAM@PR1MEA.PRIME.COM

Thanks.

In article <1991Jun10.031303.12118@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> edb134t@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen) writes:
> >Something I don't think I've seen people mention, which I noticed
> >when watching the dream sequence (not the flashback to it) after
> >seeing a few episodes...  Laura makes the Bookhouse Boys signal
> >to Cooper..

I noticed this, too, when I watched my tapes before the March 28th show.
Except, I don't think I have the original dream sequence on tape.  Maybe
this shows up in the flashbacks, too?

Is there a reason why Laura would know the signal?  Was she involved
with the Bookhouse Boys in any way?  Hmm, it's 2am, so my memory is
foggy.  If I've forgotten something, let me know.

-- Jack