Season 2, Episodes 21–22: Miss Twin Peaks / Beyond Life and Death — June 10, 1991–August 27, 1992

In article <1992Feb29.162852.25518@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons) writes...
> >In the Dark Horse comics issue #2 of Star Wars: Dark Empire ( An
> >incredible book for anyone remotely interested), there's an ad
> >for (I may be wrong on this) Dark Horse Presents #28, on
> >sale in March. Listed as one of the artists working on this issue
> >of the anthology series is... yup, you guessed it. Mr. Lynch. 
> >Anyone know if this will be a reprint of all the _Angriest Dog
> >in the World_ strips or if it'll be something new?

Reprint.  Too bad, really, though for the many people who can't find
Lynch's strip anywhere (and there are many who can't), DHP will open
up to them the world of Lynch's strip's wierdness.

I thought it was cute that at the end of the premier of Nightmare Cafe
last night (Friday 28 Feb) on NBC, Joan Chen made a special cameo
appearance in what was obviously the role of Josie Packard.
-- DaviD W. Sanderson (dws@cs.wisc.edu)

     Does anyone have/know where I can get my hands on ^Twin Peaks^
     scripts?  I have one, an earlier draft of the pilot (titled
     "Northwest Passage" where Harry is Dan and Josie is Giovanna)
     but that's all.

     In particular, I am looking for the scripts from episode 002
     (dream sequence), the second season premiere and the episode
     where Maddie is murdered (2007, I think).

     If anyone has one or all of these and would like to trade, I
     will trade the early-draft of the pilot.  Or I have several
     Star Trek scripts, both movies and TNG ("Yesterday's Enterprise,"
     "Sarek," "Best of Both Worlds I" and four or five others; second
     and third movies and the sixth.).  I also have a couple of Beauty
     and the Beast scripts.

     Or whatever you would like to trade for.  (Unfortunately, as my
     computer is not IBM-compatible, this trade will have to go through
     snail-mail, but I am willing to cover all postage as well as
     whatever compensation you think fair).

     Thanks in advance,

     Scott Gorcey

In article <1992Feb28.164335.12953@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> rmichl@iiic.ethz.
h (Robert Michl) writes:
> >In article <1992Feb26.160340.19451@uwm.edu> drbenway@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (T
e Overload) writes:
>> >>This t.s. elliot thing doesn't satisfy the white horse dilema for me.
>> >>
>> >>Is the horse a symbol of death or of everlasting life or...
>> >>
>> >>drbenwaycsd4.csd.uwm.edu
> >
> >I think Andy said this sometimes:
> >"There's a town called "White Horse", and Leo was in prison there."
> >Yes, Leo Johnson was there behind "Swedish Curtains" {as we say here :-)

> >the day Theresa Banks was killed. (February, 2nd, rite?) A key step in t
e 
> >proof of Leo not being the killer of Laura Palmer, 'coz Coop said the ki
ler
> >of Theresa is the same as the one, who killed Leland's daughter...
> >
> >Robert "Bronx" Michl
> >
> >(rmichl@iiic.ethz.ch)
> >
> >****************************************************************
> >->My mother's name is Margaret (like the log Lady)
> >->My brother's called Dennis (remember Denise Bryson?)
> >->I'm BOB
> >->and my sister - guess what ? - Laura!
> >****************************************************************
> >
> >


Sorry, but wasn't it Hungry Horse, in Montana, where Leo was locked up
while the murder of Teresa banks was committed?

Mike

In article <1992Feb29.200117.19182@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> daw5g@farada
.clas.Virginia.EDU (David Allan Worrell) writes:
> >v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu  writes:
>> >> In the Dark Horse comics issue #2 of Star Wars: Dark Empire ( An
>> >> incredible book for anyone remotely interested), there's an ad
>> >> for (I may be wrong on this) Dark Horse Presents #28, on
>> >> sale in March. Listed as one of the artists working on this issue
>> >> of the anthology series is... yup, you guessed it. Mr. Lynch. 
>> >> Anyone know if this will be a reprint of all the _Angriest Dog
>> >> in the World_ strips or if it'll be something new?
> >  Cheval Noir reprints Lynch's Dog (two strips per ish).  I
> >haven't heard anything about DHP #28.  I'm not sure, but I
> >don't think Dark Horse owns Cheval Noir so I would assume it is
> >new material.  Then again, we all know what happens when you
> >assume.



Sorry, but Dark Horse *does*  own Cheval Noir. Even if you didn't know,
try thinking about the name for a minute...

Mike

In article <1992Feb29.200117.19182@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> daw5g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (David Allan Worrell) writes:
> >  Cheval Noir reprints Lynch's Dog (two strips per ish).  I
> >haven't heard anything about DHP #28.  I'm not sure, but I
> >don't think Dark Horse owns Cheval Noir so I would assume it is
> >new material.  Then again, we all know what happens when you
> >assume.

Since "Cheval Noir" translates as "Dark Horse", I think we can assume that
one owns the other.  But still...  I wonder how all this ties into the
ongoing white horse / pale horse / Hungry Horse, Montana debate?...  :-)

     Does anyone know the name of the river that runs into the Whitetail
     Falls outside of the Great Northern?  It says in the Access Guide,
     as I recall, but my TP Access Guide and myself are about 500 miles
     apart for the moment and I need to know for some experimental 
     fiction.  

     It's not something stupidly obvious like Whitetail River is it?

This may already have been chewed over but...

In watching <The Silence of the Lambs> on cable this evening, I spotted 2
interesting TP correlations/coincidences:

The opening footage had vague similarities. The hazy woods through which
Clarise was running looked a bit like the area with the Twin Peaks sign.
Also, the two seemed to have similar typefaces in their titles.

The bad guy, "Buffalo Bill", had two strong resemblances to Killer BOB in
his first appearance. He wore the same kind of shirt, in a similar color,
as I remember BOB wearing, and had a similar annoying mincing manner that
BOB did in the Euro(per)version.

Probably sheer coincidence... but these connections may be worth tracking.
(Now what TP connection had I spotted in this tuna sandwich here?)
--
"Go to an extreme and then retreat to a more useful position"  --  Brian Eno
Joe Zitt        ...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe         (512)450-1916

JS> I got the slee.gif a while ago, but it was corrupted.  Can somebody send me
JS> a good version of it?  Thanks.

I FTPed it yesterday from audrey (130.220.16.88) and it's in perfect state!
(Thanks to guy here, who loaded it up :-)

The JPG's are beautyful too!   If you have Internet access - try it!


Bye, Marc

Does anyone have information on VHS versions of Twin Peaks episodes 8-26
being distributed in the U.S.?

Kathy Wilber
att!mvp03!kw

                      'Peaks' Film to Premiere at Cannes

       from the syndicated "Hollywood Freeway" column by Frank Swertlow
                   (in the March 2 San Francisco Chronicle)

The big-screen edition of "Twin Peaks" will make its debut at May's Cannes Film
Festival.  That was the word floating around New Line Cinema's 25th anniversary
party the other night at the Museum of Flying.  Given the raves that the TV
series got in France, the film should get a good sendoff before it shows up in
the United States, where it will be distributed by New Line, the independent
film operation that has been doing big box office with the Ninja Turtle movies
and others.

The David Lynch "Peaks" film, which will star the TV show's original cast, is a
prequel and will deal with the mysterious Laura Palmer, who was murdered in the
series.  David Bowie is one of the co-stars of the feature that has a $10
million budget.  "A lot of it will deal with Laura Palmer and how she got to be
the way she was," said one insider.

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> >        Second scene. A funeral. we did not get to see the name on the
> >gravestone. People who were visibly upset were
> >
> >        Audrey, Harry, Albert,Annie and Andy (surprisingly).
 
  What an ODD assortment..but...AUDREY?  Could this be true, Audrey actually
having a bit part?  Our prayers have been answered!

In article <1992Feb29.193732.2148@cs.hw.ac.uk> neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
Major Spoilers:

[...]

> >Post Twin Peaks (TV)
> >====================
[...]

> >A waiting room (Lodges). All the usual waiting room people.
> >Plus Josie and Hawk. Josie I can understand but why Hawk ?

> >Second scene. A funeral. we did not get to see the name on the
> >gravestone. People who were visibly upset were

> >Audrey,Harry, Albert,Annie and Andy (surprisingly).

> >Summary:
> >======= 
> >
> >It was all very cobbled together. Looked like a rush job for
> >the showing. It answered a few questions and each answer created
> >3 more. Looks like Andrew was the face at the Window. The funeral scene
> >tried to obscure the fact that it was Coop's. But I think that is
> >too obvious and is a fake insinuation.

I don't understand this.  Which window are you talking about
and how did the funeral scene obscure that what was Coop's?
...do you mean a window on a coffin?

Thanks for all the details!
Rocky Giovinazzo

     At a cost of $10 million, this movie is almost garunteed to
     turn a handsome profit -- even domestically (U.S.) where
     no one likes Peaks anymore, there's a good shot at breaking
     even, to say nothing of the revenues that will be brought in
     through the Italian, Japanese, German, British, Austrailian,
     Scandanavian and French runs, where Peaks is far more 
     popular than here.

     The point: at $10 million a pop, Lynch could shoot out a peaks
     movie every couple of years and use the revenues to finance 
     just about any other project he wanted to do --

     Twin Peaks - The Feature Film Series would be an almost
     garunteed cash cow!!




           ^Grand Theft Auto!  The Log Lady stole my truck!^
                                  ^Pete Martell, Twin Peaks^ 
               ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu^

In article <1992Mar2.012712.1443@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
> >
> >     Does anyone know the name of the river that runs into the Whitetail
> >     Falls outside of the Great Northern?  It says in the Access Guide,
> >     as I recall, but my TP Access Guide and myself are about 500 miles
> >     apart for the moment and I need to know for some experimental 
> >     fiction.  

According to the map on the back of the Access Guide it is the Columbia
River. The actual Columbia does flow through the part of Washington
shown on the AG map (NE corner), but there is nothing like Black Lake
on the border. I believe that Black Lake is really Puget Sound. That is, the
place they used for the Packard House and the interiors for the Great
Northern is located on Puget Sound.

The real name of the river that the falls are on is the Snoqualmie. No big
surprise since the real name of the fall is ...

In article <1992Feb27.233125.5696@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>>> >>>     to the park.  He saw her dressed as Laura (perhaps the first hints
>>> >>>     in his mind that he would have to kill Maddy as well -- Maddy who
>>> >>>     he refers to as "my daughter" when he kills her).
>> >> 
>> >>Sarah (Palmer) saw Donna as Maddy in #1000 or #1001, s I don't quite
>> >>agree with you here. Sarah wasn't posessed aswell. Merely drugged (for Maddy's
>> >>death anyway, maybe beforehand when Leyland was abusing Laura). 
> >
> >     What?  When was this?  Could you clarify, please.  My memory's
> >     gone faulty, I think.

An obvious slip of the tongue here. I meant Sarah saw Donna as
** LAURA **, when Donna went round to give condolences in #1000 or #1001.
Donna was asked by Leyland NOT to upset her. 

The Maddy death reference is later in series two when Maddy is
killed by Leyland/Bob and Sarah is drugged then.

Sorry for any confusion.  


Neil



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In article <1992Feb28.013904.8701@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
> >In article <29AC32D7.22010@ics.uci.edu>, bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes...
>> >>drbenway@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Overload) writes:
>>> >>>Is the horse a symbol of death or of everlasting life or...
>> >> 
>> >>I think the white horse was used to represent Sarah Palmer's drugged
>> >>state.  After all, "white horse" is a common euphemism for heroin.
> >
> >     Not that I'm conversant in heroin slang, but isn't it also
> >     "white tiger."??

Correct. When Audrey was held by Blackie at One Eyed Jacks she
was injected, by Blackie, with herion. She used the expression 'watch
her, riding the **White Tiger**. Soon she won't ever want to come down.
Just like her daddy did to me'. Any body any comments on Ben turning
Blackie into a smack-head. I don't think this has been covered much.

> >
> >     Wonder if it could have had something to do with Laura's dead
> >     horse, re: the secret Diary.??

No Sorry. Laura's pony, Troy, was Chesnut and Brown, not white.
Unless all horse ghosts are white ?? Troy was never mentioned, except in
the diary, and I think the symbol of approaching death/the after life and
comments about a poem by Shelly/Keats (can't remember) is more valid,
than saying this is ****, let Peak's TV stand on it's own. The 2 diaries
are further reading, not the missing clues.

Neil



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Keywords: 

Could somebody please repost the actor's list (A-L)?  For some reason, the actor's list (M-Z), the director's list, and the writer's list were all posted together, but the actor's list (A-L) seems to be absent.
 
Thanx in advance.
 
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In article <1992Feb28.182824.21381@uwm.edu> drbenway@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Overload) writes:

-> And cooper was the most pure perfect person on Peaks (he even
-> staved off a naked Audry in his bed!) but as soon as he dived into the
-> Flesh i.e. had sex with Annie, he fell.  And the Giant even was
-> warning him "No. No."  But coop didn't listen.    

I think Giant was saying that Annie shouldn't run for Miss Twin Peaks.

- Nightfly

In article <sVXZgB2w163w@zitt> joe@zitt (Joe Zitt) writes:
> >In watching <The Silence of the Lambs> on cable this evening, I spotted 2
> >interesting TP correlations/coincidences:

> >The opening footage had vague similarities. The hazy woods through which
> >Clarise was running looked a bit like the area with the Twin Peaks sign.
> >Also, the two seemed to have similar typefaces in their titles.

> >The bad guy, "Buffalo Bill", had two strong resemblances to Killer BOB in
> >his first appearance. [...]

> >Probably sheer coincidence... but these connections may be worth tracking.
> >(Now what TP connection had I spotted in this tuna sandwich here?)

Here's a recent and probably even more vague connection.  On Northern
Exposure this week, Ruth Ann gave Maurice some gum to bury with his 
recently departed friend.

"It's for Bill. Black Jack [gum] was his favorite."

Which was also Leland's "most favorite gum in the world."
If it's on NE which has high ratings, then I guess it really
is coming back in style.

...more on this later... right now I have to check out my ceiling tiles
which seem to form the image of BOB.

Rocky Giovinazzo

According to an Associated Press article on TV-inspired films in the March 3
San Francisco Chronicle:

"'Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me' is due August 23 from New Line Cinema."

However, since August 23 is a Sunday and most films open on a Friday, this
doesn't sound quite right.

Can anyone else confirm this date?

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In article <11200@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
> >2) BOB was about to do Maddy, and Jacoby was an inconvenient witness.
> >My memory is vague, but didn't somebody else arrive right after Jacoby 
> >was clonked, introducing more witnesses and cutting short any further
> >possible mayhem by BOB?

Yes, James on his bike to pick up Maddy.
Rocky Giovinazzo

   I've gotten the impression the movie with Everett McGill &
Wendie Robie is pretty awful, and didn't see it.  Did it have
many TP jokes?

In article <1992Mar03.150159.16454@bmerh2.bnr.ca>, coop1w13@bnr.ca (Mike Hammond) writes:
|> Could somebody please repost the actor's list (A-L)?  For some reason, the
|>actor's list (M-Z), the director's list, and the writer's list were all posted
|>together, but the actor's list (A-L) seems to be absent.

I've mailed you a copy, Mike.

If anybody else had the same problem, the file is available at the anonymous
ftp site 'audrey.sait.edu.au' or from me at dcoufal@athena.mit.edu.

-- David E. Coufal dcoufal@athena.mit.edu "One time I removed all the hair from a mouse with Nair-Hair just to see what it looked like. And it looked beautiful." - David K. Lynch "Let's hear it for the vague blur." - P. K. Dick

I have a friend whose parent live in Berlin, and they happen
to have a VHS format VCR (since they're Americans).

If someone could tell me what television station that FWWM is
going to be broadcast on in Europe and the date and time,
I could have them tape it for me and then *I* could tape
it for everyone <eek> here.  (God forbid about 800 people
email me about this...)

Thanks!  I hope we can get it...

- Mike Schneider
schneid@jerry.stat.uiuc.edu

eerie.

     Hello, I am new to the NET and have only been reading this group for
the last couple of weeks, and this is my first post, so any ideas presented
here are my own, and I hope they haven't been said before.  I live in
Seattle, and Snoqualmie and North Bend are only about 45 minutes away from
my house, so I go there as often as possible.  Believe me, the cherry pie
at the Mar-T Cafe (RR Diner, of course), is incredible.  And I don't know
what kind of coffee they use, but it is sincerely the best I have ever
tasted.  Anyway, with all that crap out of the way, here's what I have to
say.
     Every 25 years (I am not sure where this came from, other than when
Laura said "I'll see you again in 25 years," to Cooper in the Waiting Room),
the planets align and allow both mortals to enter the Waiting Room, AND the
spirits from the Lodges to enter our world.
     The White Lodge:  The Giant, like BOB, must have a vehicle to travel
about in our world.  I think the spirits from the White Lodge choose who they
want their vehicle to be, and make a connection with them.  Because the
spirits from the White Lodge don't need to do anything physical in our world,
they don't possess, merely connect.  I believe the Log Lady's husband was the
one chosen by The Giant during the last alignment.  When he was killed in the
forest fire, his spirit went to the White Lodge (he now speaks to his wife
through the log he gave to her as a wedding gift).  The Giant was attracted
to the old waiter through some love he felt for someone, and a connection was
made.  I believe Major Briggs was taken somewhere for an "interview," for 
lack of a better word, during his disappearance from the fishing trip, and I
think he was chosen as the next vehicle for The Giant.
     The Black Lodge:  As long as the spirits in the Black Lodge don't have
a vehicle in our world, they cannot do anything physical here.  After Leland
is killed, there is no more physical activity by BOB.  BOB feeds on fear, and
he can still come out of the Black Lodge for feeding only, and there must be
a source of fear to attract him.  His purpose for having a vehicle, is to be
able to create fear on his own, not have to wait for it to randomly happen.
During the alignments, the spirits can come out and search for a new vehicle,
and during the last alignment (25 years ago, Leland would be in his early to
mid teens, still considered a boy), BOB used the innocence of youth to eneter
his new vehicle.
     The Finale:  I don't think the oil was required to enter the Waiting
Room, after all, Windham Earle did it using only Annies' fear, it was just
a clue.  When Cooper entered the Waiting Room, he was going solely on his
love for Annie.  Through all the things that happened, he had only love in
his heart, and was on his way to the White Lodge.  Things turned bad when he
saw Windham get killed by BOB, and Cooper didn't feel sorry or compassionate
for him.  That slight imperfection of his love, not the agreement he made
with Windham (for that was out of love for Annie), sent him to the Black
Lodge where he faced his shadow self, and ran.  Because he didn't face his
shadow self with perfect courage, his soul could've been destroyed, but I
believe BOB, who wanted Cooper all along, chose to use this weakness as his
way to enter Cooper, and use him as his new vehicle.
     I think a good followup would be for Cooper to retire from the FBI and
buy his ranch in Twin Peaks and work for Harry at the police station.  The
murders start up again, and as Cooper investigates them, he finds out he is
the killer.  He then finds a way to get back into the Black Lodge, and
battles BOB for his soul.  He either loses and his soul is utterly destroyed,
or he wins and lives on as a normal Cooper.
     Well, that is all I have to say on this subject for now, but I have lots
of other ideas for the rest of the show.  If you want to comment on my ideas
or ask me any questions, either post them or e-mail them to me.

                                Greg Landon
                                glandon@jupiter.nmt.edu

GD> week. I'll have to check it out. BTW, a few weeks back, in the
GD> original "Coffee" post, the author theorized that the door to
GD> the White Lodge was in the coffee. The more and more I think
GD> about it, this seems to be the case. Now, in explaining, I should

Very weird explanation -- that's why it perhaps would fit :-)

The scene with the coffee's phase transition including the "wow, BOB, wow"
from the LM gets another flavour..

Hm.. haloperidol/oil/coffee.. BTW, didn't bring Andy coffee to sheriff
Truman in Glastonberry Grove?

Strange, strange .. it seems we have to adapt "in vino veritas" a bit ;-)


GD> I mean, MIKE as the archangel has already been discussed on this

BTW, did MIKE had any other shape than Gerard's?  Isn't this strange?


Bye, Marc

In article <1992Mar3.204934.20427@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes:
> >   I've gotten the impression the movie with Everett McGill &
> >Wendie Robie is pretty awful, and didn't see it.  Did it have
> >many TP jokes?  

It is pretty awful, if you're over about 12.  I was disappointed not
to see any TP parodying, though could have missed it.  It would have been
a nice touch if the kid in hiding made the fatal mistake of opening
the drapes before his getaway, and the sound of the runners tipped off
Wendy.  Or something like that.  She was pretty good though as dragon lady.

-S. Schultz

We did indeed resolve the matter of whose voice came out of Sarah's
mouth via the closed-caption copy as being WE.

I don't have a copy of my rantings on the lodges back when it was
new, but to summarize my thoughts, time in the black lodge is
running backwards.  That's how its inhabitants could know what the
future holds in 'normal time'.  In order to communicate with someone
from normal time, they must speak backwards in order for it to come
out forwards.

Remember too, that the way the 'backwards speak' was done was by having
the actors listen to a tape played backwards of themselves saying their
lines, then saying their lines backwards to the best of their abilities,
then creating the finished product by playing the recording backwards.


Brian WOOD    *House address 710 -- same as Blue Lady's apt in Blue Velvet
              *Live next to a grove of TREES
              *My wife's aunt's name is Annie; my sister's name is Anne
              *My wife grew up next to a forest; next street - Glastonbury
              *My father's name - Palmer

In article <1992Mar3.205137.9111@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>, u2417@sunc1.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider) writes...
> >I have a friend whose parent live in Berlin, and they happen
> >to have a VHS format VCR (since they're Americans).
> > 
> >If someone could tell me what television station that FWWM is
> >going to be broadcast on in Europe and the date and time,
> >I could have them tape it for me and then *I* could tape
> >it for everyone <eek> here.  (God forbid about 800 people
> >email me about this...)
> > 
> >Thanks!  I hope we can get it...
> > 
> >- Mike Schneider
> >schneid@jerry.stat.uiuc.edu


     FWWM is a feature film.  It'll premiere at Cannes in May.  
     I don't think it's gonna air on TV anywhere.  (



           ^Grand Theft Auto!  The Log Lady stole my truck!^
                                  ^Pete Martell, Twin Peaks^ 
               ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu^

In case anyone cares, the "pale" horse from Revelation was actually
a light green.  The Greek word is "chloros", from which the word
"chlorine" was derived.

Brian

Here are my answers to these questions after carefully rewatching the
final epsiode:

-> From: peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim)
->
Subject: Questions about final episode
-> Message-ID: <1A9B37D9PJ@tron.gun.de>
-> Who talked to Briggs via Sarah Palmer? Was it Earle, Bob or the Little Man?

I  think  it was the LMFAP.  We hear Sarah tell Briggs (her voice distorted):  "I'm
in the Black Lodge with Dale Cooper!".  Then there's a cut to the Other Side with a
voiceover of the LMFAP:  "I'm waiting for you!".

So  his message to Briggs is "I'm  in  the Black Lodge with Dale Cooper!  I'm waiting for
you!". Sounds like a challenge to me!

We  know  that  Briggs  is  at  least  close  to  reaching the White Lodge which is
impossible  without  passing  through  the  Black Lodge.  On the other hand there's
plenty of evidence suggesting that the LMFAP is an evil spirit inhabiting the Black
Lodge.   Probably the two have met in the past with Briggs defeating the LMFAP.  So
the  LMFAP  by  issuing  the  challenge  the  LMFAP (or the Black Lodge) is seeking
revenge.

-> Is there some significance about the strange (doubly backwards) speaking.
-> Except for Cooper everybody on the Other Side (including Earle & Annie) speaks
-> that way. Does this imply that Earle too is a supernatural being?

I  think  Window  Earle  was  behind  many  of the apparitions ("the friends") Coop
encounters.   When  Laura  screams and seems to attack Coop (in a scene with strobe
effect)  Earle's face is superimposed on Laura's during one brief flash (I verified
that with the VCR).

So  by the time Earle confronts Coop openly he has already gained some influence on
the powers of the Black Lodge thus becoming a part of the Other Side.

bye
Peter Joachim (Z-Netz:PETER_JOACHIM@TRON.ZER; Internet:goedel@tron.gun.de)

--- The owls are not what they seem.

-- THE ANSWER V2.01

According to a note in a german newspaper I read today David Lynch is planning
to make a film based on Kafka's "The Metamorphosis", his only problem being
"to find somebody who can build a convincing beetle."

Does anybody have further information on this project?

bye
Peter Joachim (Z-Netz:PETER_JOACHIM@TRON.ZER; Internet:goedel@tron.gun.de)

- NORT CENTRAL POSITORNICS LTD.: Reliable equipment in a world moving on !

-- THE ANSWER V2.01

Hi!

Before the Giant leaves Cooper in 2001 he tells him that he forgot something.
Then he zaps some sort of flash or ball-lightning into Cooper. Was that the
ring he took away from him earlier? I may be wrong, but I thought the ring
was returned to Coop when he remembered his dream (the gathering in the
Roadhouse).

Besides, why does the Giant take the ring anyway? Is it only to convince Coop
that he isn't suffering from a mere delusion by giving some physical evidence of
his visit? Or does the ring have some other significance?

bye
Peter Joachim (Z-Netz:PETER_JOACHIM@TRON.ZER; Internet:goedel@tron.gun.de)

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In article <14d0f9d0@p2.f47.n242.z2.fidonet.org>, Marc_Van_Woerkom@dungeon.fido.de (Marc Van Woerkom) writes...
> >Did anyone other than me note that she blinked with her eyes -- that was
> >no standing picture..
Actually, I was just heading home to watch the last episode when
I stopped by the computer center to catch up on the posts for the
week. I'll have to check it out. BTW, a few weeks back, in the 
original "Coffee" post, the author theorized that the door to
the White Lodge was in the coffee. The more and more I think 
about it, this seems to be the case. Now, in explaining, I should
say that I'll be using as part of the argument one of the
SPOILERS from the FWWM screenplay tidbits someone else posted 
back in January. Anyone who wants out now...























Okay, campers. Let's review. Coop is seated in the black chair
in the waiting room. The little man is the only other one in the
room at the time, right? Anyhow, the waiter eventually shows
up, says "Hallelujah" to the Little Man, who says Hallelujah
back. He then gets up and offers Coop the coffee. before Coop
picks up the coffee, perhaps as a helpful hint, he becomes the 
Giant and then disappears. At this point, let's take into account
the quote, "The little man is the arm" from the FWWM teasers
in January. Which arm? Why, BOB's of course. (Glastonberry Grove
in the last one-hour episode.) By my reasoning, this means that
the Little Man is in fact, BOB, explaining his presence at Josie's
death, the Giant/midget Black/White Lodge dichotomy, and, in my
opinion, the dumbest reason Cooper gave for Leland being the 
murderer-the Little man dancing (Well, it seemed dumb at the time)
 Coop picks up the coffee, but will not drink it, as the 
Little Man/BOB changes the nature of the fluid. IMHO, this means
that evil is constantly changing the nature of good, but if 
you get right down to it, the core of what makes good _good_
is immutable (following me?) In not drinking the coffee, the thing
Coop finds most immutable in his life (Remember him saying  
something to the effect of 'Diane, up until today, I never thought 
I'd have a truly bad cup of coffee' when he had the fish-percolated
cup o' Joe?), Coop turns down the offer of the White Lodge and 
is left to enter the Black Lodge, face his shadow-self, fall to
fear, and become BOB's new host. Also going in this theory's 
favor is the statement the Little Man/BOB makes while changing
the coffee-"Wow, BOB, Wow." Bob _is_ definitely behind the 
funky coffee. In the end, we see Laura's face in the coffee, free
at last. Where she's from the birds sing a pretty song, and there's
always music in the air. But wait. Didn't the little man also
say he was from the same place? Chew on this-Lucifer was in heaven
before he got his bum kicked out. Maybe the whole White Lodge/
Black Lodge deal can fit into traditional Judeo-Christian theology.
I mean, MIKE as the archangel has already been discussed on this
newsgroup. This might be another step in that direction. To end
on a happy note, when Laura says, "I'll see you again in 25 years"
maybe she means that although Coop may die at the hands of BOB
in the real world (Which was hinted at in the FWWM trailer post 
yesterday) he'll make it to heaven ( the White Lodge) in 25 years.
Note that the real Laura was not seen after she vanished until
the parting coffee shot, and her doppleganger, which the BL could
have conjured up, was the one doing all the screaming.
                               Anyhow, it's just a thought...
                                   >>>>George Emmons<<<<

In article <1992Mar4.011558.10693@acsu.buffalo.edu> v113np2v@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons) writes:
Spoiler from FWWM preview
 

> >Okay, campers. Let's review. Coop is seated in the black chair
> >in the waiting room. The little man is the only other one in the
> >room at the time, right? Anyhow, the waiter eventually shows
> >up, says "Hallelujah" to the Little Man, who says Hallelujah
> >back. He then gets up and offers Coop the coffee. before Coop
> >picks up the coffee, perhaps as a helpful hint, he becomes the 
> >Giant and then disappears. At this point, let's take into account
> >the quote, "The little man is the arm" from the FWWM teasers
> >in January. Which arm? Why, BOB's of course. (Glastonberry Grove
> >in the last one-hour episode.) 
The spoiler comment about the arm being the LMFAP to me
means that it is Mike's arm. Mike said that he and BOB used to
kill together but then he was touched by the face of God 
and took the whole arm off.  I understand this to mean that
he separated himself from evil by containing it in his arm
and removing it.  The evil in Mike now exists as the LMFAP.

> >To end
> >on a happy note, when Laura says, "I'll see you again in 25 years"
> >maybe she means that although Coop may die at the hands of BOB
> >in the real world (Which was hinted at in the FWWM trailer post 
> >yesterday) he'll make it to heaven ( the White Lodge) in 25 years.
Or that he'll re-enter the lodges in 25 years when the
"gateway" re-opens.  Or it has something to do with the 
time-travelling character that David Bowie plays. 

Rocky Giovinazzo

In article <1992Mar3.205137.9111@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>, u2417@sunc1.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider) writes...

} I have a friend whose parent live in Berlin, and they happen to have a
} VHS format VCR (since they're Americans).

Nit: "VHS" is a physical format, and is a worldwide standard. Mechanically,
European VHS VCRs and American VHS VCR's are the same. What differs between
American and European VCRs is the format of the video signal itself. I
think what you mean is that they have an NTSC-format deck (the American
standard), rather than a PAL- or SECAM-format deck (the European standards).

} If someone could tell me what television station that FWWM is going to
} be broadcast on in Europe and the date and time, I could have them tape
} it for me and then *I* could tape it for everyone <eek> here.

FIRE WALK WITH ME is *not* a TV-movie. It's going to be released theatrically
in both Europe and the US at roughly the same time (circa late August or
September), after debuting at the Cannes Film Festival.

This is completely aside from the fact that what you've offered to do is
video piracy.

-- "They say the best things in life are free." "Free!? Hamton, this is the 90's. Take out a loan and buy a clue." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com

The movie TP: walk in the fire is now in the box office in Europe,
i heard.

how is it doing?

The second question for anyone in Europe who saw this movie:

do you think that people who did not see TV series of TP 
can follow the plot of the movie?

Thank you in advance.

In article <1992Mar4.000826.7544@hellgate.utah.edu>, hsong%asylum.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hwal Song) writes...
> >The movie TP: walk in the fire is now in the box office in Europe,
> >i heard.

     As far as I know, ^Twin Peaks: Fire, Walk With Me^ is not out
     anywhere.  What you may have heard about is a preview shown
     the other day in Britain in which "hastily thrown together"
     clips were shown.



> >how is it doing?

     It's fine, thanks.  You?


> >The second question for anyone in Europe who saw this movie:
> > 
> >do you think that people who did not see TV series of TP 
> >can follow the plot of the movie?


     I'm not in Europe, but from what I hear about the plot of
     ^TP:FWWM^, I'd give that one a big "NO."  Just as it is
     nearly impossible to follow the complicated surface plotting
     in the series if watched sporadically or out of order, and
     just impossible to catch the symbolism at work, it probably
     won't be in the best interests of anyone not familiar with
     Twin Peaks the series to slap down hard earned cash for
     the feature film. 





> >ThThank you in advance.


     Don't think it's what you wanted to hear, but You're Welcome.



           ^Grand Theft Auto!  The Log Lady stole my truck!^
                                  ^Pete Martell, Twin Peaks^ 
               ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu^

I think, after reading a few postings on the thread of the black/white Lodges 
that I'm going to have to post an idea I came up with on my own.
The whole b/w Lodge thing is not supposed to make sense!
This is kind of a shocking think to say, but I REALLY suspect that Lynch
threw it in to keep us talking about Twin Peaks. Think about it. We have been
discussing the possible endings of the show now for almost a year after the 
show ended. We *still* have no concrete answers. No one knows for sure. The
only thing we've been able to do is keep up intrest withinh our own
community. I think that's quite an achievement, mind you, but we really
don't know  anything about the lodges still, do we?
Just an idea. Don't stop trying to figure it out.
Mike


"Generally speaking, things have gone as far as they can possibly go when 
they have become as bad as they can reasonably get."
-the Tragedian

Lots of people from the Snoqualmie area have posted (in bits and pieces) some
of the sites to visit on a Twin Peaks pilgrammage.  But no one's put it
all in one place, in one posting.  Is anyone out there up to the challenge?
I'm thinking about visiting the area in the spring or summer, and would want
to see as much as I could.  Some of the places that come to mind at
9:00 am on a workday:
    - the Double-R diner
    - the Great Northern
    - the Falls
    - the Packard mill
    - the Park with the Gazebo (where Dr. Jacoby was assaulted)
    - the title scene, where the "Welcome to Twin Peaks" sign stood
    - Big Ed's Gas Farm
    - the Log Lady's house
    - the location of the train cars where Laura was attacked
    - the Sheriff's Department
and on and on.  The area looks so breathtaking on TV, this city person
would probably just stand there and suck it all in.

Brief directions to each place would be helpful, too, as well as hotels in
the area (can you actually stay in the Great Northern?).
Thanks in advance for ANY info!

Donna

==============================================================================
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e-mail:  dmp@fig.citib.com 
"The opinions expressed here are my own."
==============================================================================

In article <10340065@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM>, brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood) writes:
> >We did indeed resolve the matter of whose voice came out of Sarah's
> >mouth via the closed-caption copy as being WE.
> >
> >I don't have a copy of my rantings on the lodges back when it was
> >new, but to summarize my thoughts, time in the black lodge is
> >running backwards.  That's how its inhabitants could know what the
> >future holds in 'normal time'.  In order to communicate with someone
>from normal time, they must speak backwards in order for it to come
> >out forwards.
> >
> >Remember too, that the way the 'backwards speak' was done was by having
> >the actors listen to a tape played backwards of themselves saying their
> >lines, then saying their lines backwards to the best of their abilities,
> >then creating the finished product by playing the recording backwards.
> >
> >
> >Brian WOOD    *House address 710 -- same as Blue Lady's apt in Blue Velvet
> >              *Live next to a grove of TREES
> >              *My wife's aunt's name is Annie; my sister's name is Anne
> >              *My wife grew up next to a forest; next street - Glastonbury
> >              *My father's name - Palmer

It sounds like you've been reading Piers Anthony books.  His character of
TIME also lived life backwards and knew the future because of it. I don't
remember if he had the backspeak problem though.

   In case you missed it, this weeks's NORTHERN EXPOSURE had two of
the characters burying a pack of gum with a third character (may
have been Black Jack, can't remember).

In article <1992Mar4.142411.3248@fig.citib.com> dmp@fig.citib.com (Donna M. Paino) writes:
> >
> >Lots of people from the Snoqualmie area have posted (in bits and pieces) some
> >of the sites to visit on a Twin Peaks pilgrammage.  But no one's put it
[deletions]
Here are two places to add from FWWM:
Fat Trout trailer court
??? Motel

I don't know what name the Motel is given in the movie (if any). I did
see them shooting at the actual location last fall.

-Rich Haller

     Hi, this is Greg Landon, the one that posted the big White and Black
Lodge analysis a couple of days ago.  As I said, I am from Seattle, and
like to go to Snoqualmie and North Bend as often as I can.  I will be
moving back to Seattle around the middle of May, and would be happy to lead
tours up to the Twin Peaks area for anyone who is interested.  I can even
come pick you up at the airport since it is only about three miles from my
house.  If you are interested in a personal tour, email me or call me on the
phone, and we can probably work something out.
     For those of you who aren't interested, here is a list of the locations
I know about and the best directions I have to get there.
First off, get on I-90 heading east out of Seattle.  Follow the signs
to North Bend(Exit 31 I think).  Follow the road you end up on into town, and
you will eventually see the Mar-T Cafe(RR-diner).  Stop in and grab a piece of
pie and a cup of joe.  You may not recognize the interior, because it was only
used in the pilot.  Back on the road you were on before, there is a flower and
gift shop on the other side of the stop light and they have all kinds of Twin
Peaks souvineers.  The large hill you see is Mt. Si(sigh), seen in the show.
That is pretty much all there is in North Bend, so get back on the same road
heading away from the freeway, and continue on around a sharp corner which
will put you on HWY 203.  Follow this for a few miles, and eventually you will
enter Snoqualmie.  You will see Big Edd's Family Dining on the right, not the
same building, and not a gas station, but no doubt where the name came from
(not sure how the food is).  Twin Peaks High School is also known as Mt. Si
H.S., but unfortunately, I don't have directions to get there.  The town isn't
that big, so you will more than likely stumble upon it if you look just a
little.  The next thing in Snoqualmie is the Great Northern(Salish Lodge), and
the falls.  You can stay at the Salish Lodge, but it will run you $165.00 a
night, and the inside is not like the show.  Spend a few moments in awe of
the power of the falls, and if you like, there is a trail going down to a
viewpoint at the bottom, that viewpoint is quite a ways away, and you may want
to climb down and walk all the way up to the pool at the bottom of the falls.

In article <1AA75E4EPJ@tron.gun.de> peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim) writes:

   According to a note in a german newspaper I read today David Lynch is planning
   to make a film based on Kafka's "The Metamorphosis", his only problem being
   "to find somebody who can build a convincing beetle."

   Does anybody have further information on this project?

No, but he should find the guys what did the typewriters for _Naked
Lunch_.  Them was convincing bugs, believe you me.

-30-
Bob

The latest issue of Variety has a small article which confirms that New
Line will release TP:FWWM on August 23rd.  There may be a gala premiere
in Snoqualmie that night as well.

On my campus, a grafitti board with a Question of the Day stands in our
student union.  The other day, it was "Why do people use drugs?"

Scribbled below it was:

"Because ^Twin Peaks^ was cancelled."

:-)

In article <1AA75E4EPJ@tron.gun.de>, peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim) writes...

} According to a note in a german newspaper I read today David Lynch is
} planning to make a film based on Kafka's "The Metamorphosis", his only
} problem being "to find somebody who can build a convincing beetle."

Has he asked Volkswagen? :-)

-- "They say the best things in life are free." "Free!? Hamton, this is the 90's. Take out a loan and buy a clue." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com

In article <1992Mar4.142411.3248@fig.citib.com> dmp@fig.citib.com
(Donna M. Paino) writes:

> >Lots of people from the Snoqualmie area have posted (in bits and pieces) some
> >of the sites to visit on a Twin Peaks pilgrammage.  But no one's put it
> >all in one place, in one posting.  Is anyone out there up to the challenge?

I visited Snoqualmie/North Bend twice over the summer, and
saw all the major exterior locations.  Here's my best recollection
how to find them (you'll need a Snoqualmie street map, available
anywhere in the area).  Corrections/additions welcome!

RR diner:  the Mar-T Diner on the corner of 1st (=North Bend Way) 
and North Bend Blvd., North Bend.

Twin Peaks Sheriff Office:  Weyerhauser Mill Office in Snoqualmie: 
Turn north off 202 onto Meadowbrook Way, which turns into Reinig
Road after crossing the river.  Just past the RR trestle turn left at
396, then take first left.  The trestle before 396 is where
Ronette Pulaski was found wandering.

Packard Mill:  Weyerhauser Mill above.

Twin Peaks High School:  Mt. Si High School, 1/4 mile north of 202
on Meadowbrook Way.

Opening sequence with "Welcome to TP" sign:  stay on Reinig Road 
after intersection with 396.  Twin Peaks (Mt. Si) straight ahead.
Continue about 1 mile to a turnout on the right where the road
meets the river again.  You'll know this is the spot by the pattern
of cottonwoods and telephone poles against Mt. Si.

Big Tree (in opening sequence first season): Village Green Park, 
center of Snoqualmie on Snoqualmie-North Bend Road.

Railroad Cars (where Laura was found): just north of Village Green 
park on west side of the road.  North of the fenced-in cars, follow
the first spur of tracks to the NW past the transformers and into
the woods.  Continue over a wooden bridge/footpath about 1/4 mile
to a pair of cars to the right, slightly elevated, on a separate
track about 15 feet from the main track.  An outhouse is next to
them.  There have been rumors that these cars were moved sometime
in the fall, however.

Great Northern/TP Falls:  Salish Inn/Snoqualmie Falls in 
Snoqualmie on Fall City-Snoqualmie Road.

Roadhouse:  Colonial Inn at intersection of Highway 202 and 
Preston-Fall City Road in Fall City.  Much better food than
the Mar-T.

Big Ed's Gas Station:  Windstreamers kite shop in Preston on 
Preston-Fall City Road at 86 Place near Highway 90.

The only interior I know (haven't been here yet, though):

Great Northern: Kiana Lodge in Poulsbo, Washington.

Snoqualmie/North Bend are about 30 minutes east of Seattle on U.S. 90.
The Mar-T sells cherry pies by the truckload, and has lotsa
memorabilia from the series on the walls (incl. photos of Lynch
and some of the actors as they partook of the so-so dining there).
The Alpine Blossom Gift Shop a couple blocks from the Mar-T sells
TP souvenirs, including the TP Gazette, logs, t-shirts, coffee
mugs.  They also sell crude freehand maps of the exterior shots,
but I still couldn't find them without a street map.

Motels
-------
There are five motels in the area, all in North Bend,
a campground in Fall City, and a trailer park with
tent sites in North Bend.  The motels are often full by
early afternoon on weekends, so make reservations early. 

The motels are:
Mt. Si(206)888-1621
Apple Tree Inn888-3572
North Bend Motel888-1121 a block from Mar-T
Nor'west Motel888-1939
Sunset Motel888-0381 a block from Mar-T

The Colonial Inn (Roadhouse) rents only by the month; the Salish Inn
(Great Northern) starts at over $150 per night.

-S. Schultz

In article <1992Mar4.142411.3248@fig.citib.com>, dmp@fig.citib.com (Donna M. Paino) writes:
|> 
|> Lots of people from the Snoqualmie area have posted (in bits and pieces) some
|> of the sites to visit on a Twin Peaks pilgrammage.  But no one's put it
|> all in one place, in one posting.  Is anyone out there up to the challenge?

I've saved all the postings about Snoqualmie since I started reading
this newsgroup, planning for the day when I could make the trip (hasn't
happened yet). The oldest posting dates to August 1990. When people
ask this question I usually send them the whole mess. One person
sent me as a thank you a postcard of Snoqualmie Falls, written at the 
counter of the RR while he was eating (what else) cherry pie. Definitely 
made my week (thanks Jim!).

I don't really have time right now to make a nice FAQ list, and it would
probably be done better by someone who's actually been to these
places. I'll mail the whole file to anyone whose interested in doing
it, or who just wants to plan their own trip.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Cole  (steve@sep.stanford.edu, apple!sep!steve)
Department of Geophysics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305

peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim) writes:

> >Before the Giant leaves Cooper in 2001 he tells him that he forgot something.
> >Then he zaps some sort of flash or ball-lightning into Cooper. Was that the
> >ring he took away from him earlier? I may be wrong, but I thought the ring
> >was returned to Coop when he remembered his dream (the gathering in the
> >Roadhouse).

> >Besides, why does the Giant take the ring anyway? Is it only to convince Coop
> >that he isn't suffering from a mere delusion by giving some physical evidence of
> >his visit? Or does the ring have some other significance?

The ring does have some significance. If you read the book about Coop (My
Life, My Tapes) it tells in there that the ring was his mothers (I think).
She gave it to him (I cant remember exactly when) but it disappears one
night when he has a dream about his mother, and returns later when he
has another dream. You should read the book, it is definately worth it. 
Some wierd stuff and some funny stuff but I wont go into it here incase it 
spoils it for anyone.

Donald Edwards

In article <1AA75C76PJ@tron.gun.de>, peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim) writes:
> >
> >I  think  Window  Earle  was  behind  many  of the apparitions ("the friends") Coop
> >encounters.   When  Laura  screams and seems to attack Coop (in a scene with strobe
> >effect)  Earle's face is superimposed on Laura's during one brief flash (I verified
> >that with the VCR).
> >
I also verified this with my VCR, and got the impression that Earle
was *watching* the encounter between Coop and doppel-Laura.  His face
was a bit off to the left side, apparently watching with a demented
grin on his face.  It was not, to the best of my recollection,
superimposed on doppel-Laura's face.
-- Ed Hughes, SAS Institute | "See no evil...well, maybe just a little... Cary, NC | yeah!" | --Joel, "Women of the Prehistoric Planet," | MST3000

In article <1992Mar4.142411.3248@fig.citib.com> dmp@fig.citib.com (Donna M. Paino) writes:

   Lots of people from the Snoqualmie area have posted (in bits and pieces)
   some of the sites to visit on a Twin Peaks pilgrammage.  But no one's put it
   all in one place, in one posting.  Is anyone out there up to the challenge?
   I'm thinking about visiting the area in the spring or summer, and would want
   to see as much as I could.  Some of the places that come to mind at
   9:00 am on a workday:

       - the location of the train cars where Laura was attacked

   Donna

My uncle works with the volunteer train enthusiasts who own the rail yard
where that scene was shot.  Some big outfit bought the land and they had
to move all of their trains off the lot.  So that site doesn't exist
any more, unfortunately.
--
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|    Dept. of Computer & Information Science, University of Oregon    |
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        Democracy is the theory that the common man knows what he
        wants and deserves to get it good and hard.  - H. Meneken

In article <1AA65430PJ@tron.gun.de>, peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim) writes...
> >Hi!
> > 
> >Before the Giant leaves Cooper in 2001 he tells him that he forgot something.
> >Then he zaps some sort of flash or ball-lightning into Cooper. Was that the
> >ring he took away from him earlier? I may be wrong, but I thought the ring
> >was returned to Coop when he remembered his dream (the gathering in the
> >Roadhouse).

     "You forgot something" refers to Coop forgetting what Dream-Laura
     whispered in his ear - i.e., the name of the killer - in 1002.



> >Besides, why does the Giant take the ring anyway? Is it only to convince Coop
> >that he isn't suffering from a mere delusion by giving some physical evidence of
> >his visit? Or does the ring have some other significance?

     Yes, it has other significances, but in this instance, yeah, the
     Giant took the ring to prove to Coop that it wasn't a dream (Coop
     checks his hand  a little while later and is shocked that the
     ring really is gone.)

           ^Grand Theft Auto!  The Log Lady stole my truck!^
                                  ^Pete Martell, Twin Peaks^ 
               ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu^

In article <1AA75C76PJ@tron.gun.de>, peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim) writes...
> >Here are my answers to these questions after carefully rewatching the
> >final epsiode:
> > 
> >-> From: peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim)
> >->
Subject: Questions about final episode
> >-> Message-ID: <1A9B37D9PJ@tron.gun.de>
> >-> Who talked to Briggs via Sarah Palmer? Was it Earle, Bob or the Little Man?
> > 
> >I  think  it was the LMFAP.  We hear Sarah tell Briggs (her voice distorted):  "I'm
> >in the Black Lodge with Dale Cooper!".  Then there's a cut to the Other Side with a
> >voiceover of the LMFAP:  "I'm waiting for you!".
> > 
> >So  his message to Briggs is "I'm  in  the Black Lodge with Dale Cooper!  I'm waiting for
> >you!". Sounds like a challenge to me!

     It does, taken that way.  But the whole "Who talked through Sarah's
     mouth?" thing was put to rest a while back by someone with both
     script (indicating it was the voice of Windom Earle) and closed
     caption, which indicated it was Earle's voice as well.  

     If "One in the same" applies to everything in the Black Lodge and
     Earle is partly assimilated, as you suggest later in your original
     post (thus having gained certain Black Lodge abilities), it might
     be Earle speaking the first part of the challenge to Briggs: "I'm
     in the Black Lodge with Agent Cooper" and the LMFAP who finishes
     it in another voice over "I'm waiting for you."  

     I think it's more plausible as a challenge from Earle to Briggs,
     since the two are old enemies from Project Bluebook, which was the
     first research into the Lodge's powers.  

     This sounds like the first really plausible explanation, to me
     anyway, of why Sarah was speaking in tongues and why to Briggs.
     (Briggs should be a huge part of the movie).



           ^Grand Theft Auto!  The Log Lady stole my truck!^
                                  ^Pete Martell, Twin Peaks^ 
               ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu^

     Just a stupid point and maybe this has been discussed and
     I missed it, but...

     A lot of articles refer to the Laura we see in the final
     episode in the Waiting Room as "Doppel-Laura" and it just
     occured to me -- how do we konw that isn't the ^real^ Laura
     Palmer and the Doppel is the one who died?  Just as the
     ^real^ Coop is trapped in the Lodge and his Doppel is
     free?...  (Same would go for Maddy and Leland (maybe even
     for the Room Service Waiter and Josie as well))...


     Just a thought.





           ^Grand Theft Auto!  The Log Lady stole my truck!^
                                  ^Pete Martell, Twin Peaks^ 
               ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu^

In article <1992Mar5.192020.8658@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
> >In article <1AA65430PJ@tron.gun.de>, peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim) writes...
>> >>Before the Giant leaves Cooper in 2001 he tells him that he forgot something.
>> >>Then he zaps some sort of flash or ball-lightning into Cooper. Was that the
>> >>ring he took away from him earlier? I may be wrong, but I thought the ring
>> >>was returned to Coop when he remembered his dream (the gathering in the
>> >>Roadhouse).

> >     "You forgot something" refers to Coop forgetting what Dream-Laura
> >     whispered in his ear - i.e., the name of the killer - in 1002.
Or it refers to the note from Audrey that he forgot to read after 
getting shot.  I'm pretty sure he finds it the next morning after
his visit from the Giant.

Rocky Giovinazzo

In article <1992Mar4.150145.13610@news.iastate.edu>, SHARPIE%NETMON@ISUVAX.IASTATE.EDU (Sharpie) writes:
> >It sounds like you've been reading Piers Anthony books.  His character of
> >TIME also lived life backwards and knew the future because of it. I don't
> >remember if he had the backspeak problem though.

In some versions of the King Arthur legend, Merlin was living backwards.
-------------------------------
Brent Hutto
hutto@smtc00.engr.scarolina.edu

I have read both of the Twin Peak books ("The Secret Diary of Laura  
Palmer" and "The Autobiography of Agent Dale Cooper:  My life, my tapes").  
Just out of curiousity, I was wondering if there were any other Twin Peaks  
books that give us more insight into specific characters.  In addition (if  
anyone out there has them), would you know if they are still selling the  
Twin Peaks trivia collectors cards?

I have already read both of the Twin Peaks books (Laura Palmer's diary and  
the Agent Dale Cooper book).  I was wondering if there were any other  
books to read that give us more insight into a specific character.  Also,  
would anyone know if they were still selling the Twin Peaks trivia  
collectors cards?  Thanks!!!! :-)

DPG-1470.GIF  140971 92-02-09* Sherilyn Fenn, with short haircut           DPG
DPG-1471.GIF  134030 92-02-09* Sherilyn Fenn, in fishnet stockings b/w     DPG

Does anyone have these files? and could you upload them to 
audrey.sait.edu.au or alt.binaries.pictures.misc?

Thanks,
Rocky Giovinazzo
--
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        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

Hello All!
I've been reading all about FWWM and I'm waiting for the release date just like
everyone else.Two questions, 1.)  Is the credits for the series at Audrey.ftp
available in a format "friendly" to the Mac?  I've tried to download and the
files are all messed up, even in a binary transfer. ASCII doesn't work and I
think the files have a ".Z" at the end of each name [Credits2004.Z]  HELP!

Question two is more of an open statement.  There is a small wooded area by my
campus (The University of Toledo)  Late at night in the fall when the trees
are full of leaves and blow in the breeze it has a "feel" of the woods in ^TP^
and I thought it would be really cool to have a ^TP^ film festival where for a
week the entire series is played, maybe two episodes a night?.....Anyway has
anyone done anything like this?



Cheers!



Don Kasprzak

jblum@lucy.umd.edu  writes:
> > The latest issue of Variety has a small article which confirms that New
> > Line will release TP:FWWM on August 23rd.  There may be a gala premiere
> > in Snoqualmie that night as well.
   Isn't Aug 23 Audrey's Birthday(or is it Aug 26)?

pandora@next07wor.wam.umd.edu  writes:
> > 
> > I have already read both of the Twin Peaks books (Laura Palmer's diary and  
> > the Agent Dale Cooper book).  I was wondering if there were any other  
> > books to read that give us more insight into a specific character.  Also,  
> > would anyone know if they were still selling the Twin Peaks trivia  
> > collectors cards?  Thanks!!!! :-)
   I believe they are still selling them, but I'm not sure.
Does anyone know how rare the autographed cards really are?

In article <1AA75C76PJ@tron.gun.de> peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim) writes:
> >Here are my answers to these questions after carefully rewatching the
> >final epsiode:
> >
> >-> From: peter_joachim@tron.gun.de (Peter Joachim)
> >->
Subject: Questions about final episode
> >-> Message-ID: <1A9B37D9PJ@tron.gun.de>
> >-> Who talked to Briggs via Sarah Palmer? Was it Earle, Bob or the Little Man?
> >
> >I  think  it was the LMFAP.  We hear Sarah tell Briggs (her voice distorted):  "I'm
> >in the Black Lodge with Dale Cooper!".  Then there's a cut to the Other Side with a
> >voiceover of the LMFAP:  "I'm waiting for you!".
> >
> >So  his message to Briggs is "I'm  in  the Black Lodge with Dale Cooper!  I'm waiting for
> >you!". Sounds like a challenge to me!

*rest deleted*

I thought it has already been established that it was EARLE speaking through
Sarah Palmer to Briggs. Anyway, the other thing I want to know is: WHY/HOW
did this happen ? Was Sarah also possessed ? Why did the Black Lodge want
Briggs ? And why didn't he go there to help Cooper and/or himself ? In fact,
he wasn't seen again after that scene ... WHY ? Where was he ?

Z

hi!
i am sure this question is brought out before.
but please pardon me repeating this.

i think i saw TP in video in a store.
how many of them are available? whole series or just best of series?
if they are available, where can i get them? (such as  mail order)

thank you!

     Why would Major Briggs be contacted by Windom Earle and say
     "I'm in the black lodge."  and the next dialogue (from LMFAP)
     is "I'm waiting for you."  ?

     Remember, Briggs and Windom Earle were on Project Bluebook in
     the sixties, but instead of looking for UFOs like the rest,
     Briggs and Earle and probably a few others were looking for
     odd occurences UNDER Twin Peaks and the Ghostwood/Black Lake
     area.  

     Earle's talking to Briggs because ^he^ (WM) has finally found
     what they were looking for in the 60s and because he (WM) sees
     Briggs as a nemesis just as he sees Cooper as one (witness the
     kidnap and near-death of  Briggs by WM).  

     That's why -- he thinks it's a race and is announcing to Briggs
     that he (WM) has won but the after-race fight is still on so
     Briggs had better hurry up.

     I want to know what drove WM crazy (I'm thinking he was crazy
     before he killed his wife and Coop's lover).  What did WM
     find out about the Lodge in the sixties just before the FBI
     closed Bluebook and put WM in other departments that WM is
     just now getting back into?  And will we now see a possessed
     Earle just as we saw a possessed Leland?  Did Leland become
     "useable human form" after BOB somehow stole ^his^ soul when
     Leland was a kid?  Was Josie's soul stolen as well?  

     This could very quickly become "Night of the Living Dead" if
     my theory is right.  Uh.   Forget it.  


           ^Grand Theft Auto!  The Log Lady stole my truck!^
                                  ^Pete Martell, Twin Peaks^ 
               ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu^

In article <1992Mar5.194703.9513@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v075q5fr@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
> >
> >     Just a stupid point and maybe this has been discussed and
> >     I missed it, but...
> >
> >     A lot of articles refer to the Laura we see in the final
> >     episode in the Waiting Room as "Doppel-Laura" and it just
> >     occured to me -- how do we konw that isn't the ^real^ Laura
> >     Palmer and the Doppel is the one who died?  Just as the
> >     ^real^ Coop is trapped in the Lodge and his Doppel is
> >     free?...  (Same would go for Maddy and Leland (maybe even
> >     for the Room Service Waiter and Josie as well))...
> >
> >
> >     Just a thought.
> >
In the "Lodge" scenes, all the doppelgangers had eyes with
white irises.  The first time the LMFAP says "doppelganger" to
Coop in that slightly menacing voice, he has the wierd eyes.
After that, all the menacing characters have them too.  If
I recall correctly, everyone on the net assumed that, in the
Lodge, white eyes=doppelganger.
-- Ed Hughes, SAS Institute | "See no evil...well, maybe just a little... Cary, NC | yeah!" | --Joel, "Women of the Prehistoric Planet," | MST3000

In article <1992Mar5.234916.22060@wam.umd.edu>, pandora@next07wor.wam.umd.edu (Erica) writes:
> >
> >I have already read both of the Twin Peaks books (Laura Palmer's diary and
> >the Agent Dale Cooper book).  I was wondering if there were any other
> >books to read that give us more insight into a specific character.  Also,
> >would anyone know if they were still selling the Twin Peaks trivia
> >collectors cards?  Thanks!!!! :-)

I think you've read almost everything in TP-land that will give you
any real insights.  I have both the cards and the Cooper audio
tape.  Both are entertaining, and in future years I'm sure I'll
be glad I have them, but don't buy either to get inside info
or clues.  For that, I think the Twin Peaks Access Guide is
better.  For one, it contains some pretty good maps, a great
print of that big cave drawing, a lot of invented TP history,
and a description of a TP Passion Play that occurs *in Glastonberry
Grove*.  If there are *any* hints to what will happen in TP in
all this merchandise, they're probably in the Access Guide or
in the two books you mentioned.
-- Ed Hughes, SAS Institute | "See no evil...well, maybe just a little... Cary, NC | yeah!" | --Joel, "Women of the Prehistoric Planet," | MST3000

Thanks to all who have posted to the group and mailed directions to me.
Now I *really* can't wait to visit!  I was surprised to read that the
Salish Inn is apparently only part of the Great Northern set, and that
another hotel is the interior.  I was looking forward to those pretty
pine walls.

Thanks again everyone!

Donna

Log Lady for President!




by far the best character in Twin Peaks

Fellow Peak Freaks,

 I am currently working on a drinking game around ^Twin Peaks^ please
e-mail me suggestions or request for the list of rules we all ready have
at katherle@descartes.waterloo.edu We have played this a couple of times and it
is fun. Suggestions are welcomed. If you enjoy it I may post it.


m.W.F. Bell

katherle@descartes.waterloo.edu

Don't be a stranger just be strange!!!!

>> >> The latest issue of Variety has a small article which confirms that New
>> >> Line will release TP:FWWM on August 23rd.  There may be a gala premiere
>> >> in Snoqualmie that night as well.
> >   Isn't Aug 23 Audrey's Birthday(or is it Aug 26)?

I don't know about Audrey, but I'm freaked.  Aug. 23 is my birthday.
> >

In article <1992Mar5.214555.6404@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, csbgc@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
|> 
|> Hello All!
|> I've been reading all about FWWM and I'm waiting for the release date just like
|> everyone else.Two questions, 1.)  Is the credits for the series at Audrey.ftp
|> available in a format "friendly" to the Mac?  I've tried to download and the
|> files are all messed up, even in a binary transfer. ASCII doesn't work and I
|> think the files have a ".Z" at the end of each name [Credits2004.Z]  HELP!
|> 
|> Question two is more of an open statement.  There is a small wooded area by my
|> campus (The University of Toledo)  Late at night in the fall when the trees
|> are full of leaves and blow in the breeze it has a "feel" of the woods in ^TP^
|> and I thought it would be really cool to have a ^TP^ film festival where for a
|> week the entire series is played, maybe two episodes a night?.....Anyway has
|> anyone done anything like this?
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Cheers!
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Don Kasprzak

Don-

I organized a first season viewathon last year- starting at 10 AM and lasting
until about 6 PM or so on a Saturday, with one thirty-minute break for lunch.
It was a blast!  I kept coffee made the entire time, and we had a donut setup and
two cherry pies.
A piece of advice: don't consume 13 cups of coffee, 5 donuts, and a piece of
cherry pie in an eight hour period.  Did it, and haven't been the same since.

Also, some friends and I have been watching the entire thing- both seasons- one
night a week since September.  It's fun because they've never seen it.  At any
rate, I refuse to let Twin Peaks die.

-MDJ aka jack

In article <1992Mar5.091207.18626@morrow.stanford.edu>, steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole) writes:
|> I've saved all the postings about Snoqualmie since I started reading
|> this newsgroup, planning for the day when I could make the trip (hasn't
|> happened yet). The oldest posting dates to August 1990. 
|> I'll mail the whole file to anyone who's interested...

Several people have asked for (and should have received) this file
by e-mail. Given the interest, I've decided to make it available
for anonymous ftp from hanauma.stanford.edu (36.51.0.16) as
file pub/tp_snoqualmie. Size is about 46K. 
As it says at the beginning of the file, I'd be glad to include any 
additions, corrections, or first-hand accounts of visits that you wish 
to send me. Or you can just post them.

I'd like to acknowledge the following people who wrote the
postings contained in the file.

   Have you read the Cooper autobiography?  This sheds some
light on when and why WE lost it.

daw5g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU  writes:
> > jblum@lucy.umd.edu  writes:
>> > > The latest issue of Variety has a small article which confirms that New
>> > > Line will release TP:FWWM on August 23rd.  There may be a gala premiere
>> > > in Snoqualmie that night as well.
> >    Isn't Aug 23 Audrey's Birthday(or is it Aug 26)?

   After posting this, I checked my TP cards and it said
Audrey's birthday is Aug 15.  Trouble is, I'm almost sure
either the Diane tape or the show had Cooper saying it was
something else.  Am I making this up or does anyone else
remember this.
Dave

   I checked my Diane tape, and Coop says,"...She's 18 by the
way, last August 24."  As I posted previously, the card says
Aug 15.  Speaking of the cards, does anyone have the same
birthday as one of the Peaks characters?  Leo and I have do.
Since a psychic supposedly took all the information about the
characters in order to find their dates of birth, I wonder if
she knows something I don't.
Dave

Did anyone else catch Thursday night's preview of next weeks's
"Beverly Hills 90210".  I almost one hundred percent positive that
Sheryl Lee guest stars in this episode.  She plays an "older woman"
whom Brandon Walsh is going out with.

Another thing: Anyone else see Major Briggs in the movie "Kuffs"?  This
guy keeps popping up everywhere.  He played a cop.

And also we all know that Lara Flynn is in Wayne's World.  But did anyone
notice anyone else from the Twin Peaks cast?  His role was very short.  He
played the announcer during the big production of the TV show.  It was the
guy who played Emory Battis.  He also popped up on "Night Court" a few
weeks ago.  Anyone know if he is in the movie?


-- ^ Steven Greco ^ (aka Windom Earle) slg20427@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

  I'd first like to start off by saying that I am new to this conference.
I too am a truly devoted Twin Peaks fan.  Just glad that I'm not the only
one out there!  Anyways...
 
  Did anyone notice the differences between the waiting room(?) in
Cooper's dream sequence, and the actual one that he entered in the last
episode?  The only thing I noticed was that the floor/carpet changed.  In
the dream sequence, there was a jagged design, with two alternating
colors: red and beige(?).  In the last episode, the design was basically
the same, except that the colors were now a distinctive black and white.
 
  Now, I can only assume that the reason for this was to emphasize, and/or
correct, that it symbolized the White/Black room--that is, the waiting
room to enter one or the other.  In the dream sequence, I'm sure they left
it the red/beige color as to keep color continuity with the red drapes...

In Piers Anthony's book cronos had a watch that enabled him to stop
time for himself as well as others of his choice. When thus frozen
he could converse without a backspeak problem.

MS> to have a VHS format VCR (since they're Americans).

That's not the point, they have VHS in Europe too. But instead of NTSC
(never the same colour :-) with 525 scan lines, we use PAL with 625 lines.
There is still another System, SECAM, which is used in France and
was used in the former GDR.


MS> If someone could tell me what television station that FWWM is

It would be a waste of money for the producers, because FWWM could run
in the bioscopes before.

Then comes the video release usually a half year later, then the airing
on Pay TV and then it may come on normal TV. :-)

But astonishing enough, regular ^Twin Peaks^ found it's way very quickly
on the TV screens..


Bye, Marc

GD> week. I'll have to check it out. BTW, a few weeks back, in the
GD> original "Coffee" post, the author theorized that the door to
GD> the White Lodge was in the coffee. The more and more I think
GD> about it, this seems to be the case. Now, in explaining, I should

Very weird explanation -- that's why it perhaps would fit :-)

The scene with the coffee's phase transition including the "wow, BOB, wow"
from the LM gets another flavour..

Hm.. haloperidol/oil/coffee.. BTW, didn't bring Andy coffee to sheriff
Truman in Glastonberry Grove?

Strange, strange .. it seems we have to adapt "in vino veritas" a bit ;-)


GD> I mean, MIKE as the archangel has already been discussed on this

BTW, did MIKE had any other shape than Gerard's?  Isn't this strange?


Bye, Marc

I miss the traffic light..

In article <1992Mar7.042011.166@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> daw5g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (David Allan Worrell) writes:
> >   I checked my Diane tape, and Coop says,"...She's 18 by the
> >way, last August 24."  As I posted previously, the card says
> >Aug 15.  Speaking of the cards, does anyone have the same
> >birthday as one of the Peaks characters?  Leo and I have do.

Yup. Mine is the same as Sheriff Truman: May 13.
Other famous people with that birthday include Joe Lewis and Stevie Wonder.
My 13th birthday fell on Friday. That didn't keep it from showing up the next
year, however.

-Rich (see you in Snoqalmie for the premiere) Haller

P.S. Did you know the real Sheriff of 'Twin Peaks' is (or was) a woman?
I met her in the R&R last May and she asked if she could borrow the cream.
Damn fine coffee, but they were out of cherry pie. I settled for a donut.

What role did she play in TP?  I just saw a movie with her
yesterday, and it said, on the jacket blurb, that she was
in the show.

The movie is _Zandalee_, and if you want to see her have 
sex, several times, with Judge Rheinhold and Nicholas Cage
check it out.

sorry if this has been gone over before, but for the life of
me I didn't recognize her.
-- Gary Cooper (not the dead one) email personal responses - cooper@cos.com When you're wounded an' left on Afghanistan's plains, an' the women come out to cut up your remains, Just roll to your rifle an' blow out your brains, an' go to your Gawd like a soldier. - Rudyard Kipling - **standard disclaimer, etc.**

Gregory Landon writes:

> >my house, so I go there as often as possible.  Believe me, the cherry pie
> >at the Mar-T Cafe (RR Diner, of course), is incredible.  And I don't know

When the finale aired last June, I had a party at my house for which we 
ordered three cherry pies from the Mar-T.  They arrived safely just in time
for the party, and they were very good.  Of course, the mood was right,
so maybe even bad cherry pie would've tasted good....Naw. They were damn
good cherry pies.

You had some good ideas in your post that I haven't seen here before.
I agree with the thought that Dale entered the lodge via love and Windom
entered via Annie's fear.  The oil was just a clue that led Coop to the
right spot.


Brian WOOD    *House address 710 -- same as Blue Lady's apt in Blue Velvet
              *Live next to a grove of TREES
              *My wife's aunt's name is Annie; my sister's name is Anne
              *My wife grew up next to a forest; next street - Glastonbury
              *My father's name - Palmer Robert Wood

David Lynch is sharp.        

It's just so fitting that the mode to get into the lodges occurrs in a grove of trees.  I mean, symbolically, trees represent life.  It only makes sense.
Also, it's a complete testament to the lifeformforce of cooper considering his obsession with the trees of twin peaks.  One of the firsst things we discover about coop is his complete and utter fascination with the firs.
     

     f
     This also clues us into the best character in the series--the Log Lady.  She is one of the most gifted charct
     characters in tp and it's so fitting that her mode to the hyper-real is ner log--wood!

     There were numerous mentions of trees and wood throughout the show and one of the fun things (for me) is cluing to these references and pulling meaning into the show (...and people thought that tp was only this frivolous, meaningless quirck from david lynch....shame on them....).




     "you got a head like a bowl full of cherries"
   --david byrne

In article <57272@cos.com>, cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper) writes:
|> What role did she play in TP?  I just saw a movie with her
|> yesterday, and it said, on the jacket blurb, that she was
|> in the show.
|> 
|> The movie is _Zandalee_, and if you want to see her have 
|> sex, several times, with Judge Rheinhold and Nicholas Cage
|> check it out.
|>
|> sorry if this has been gone over before, but for the life of
|> me I didn't recognize her.

I'm not surprised you didn't recognize her; she played the role
of Selina Swift, the actress on "Invitation to Love" who, in turn,
played the dual roles of Emerald and Jade on the ubiquitous soap.

She was only on screen for a couple of seconds.

-- David E. Coufal dcoufal@athena.mit.edu "One time I removed all the hair from a mouse with Nair-Hair just to see what it looked like. And it looked beautiful." - David K. Lynch "Let's hear it for the vague blur." - P. K. Dick

In the next to last episode, I recall that Coop, among others had 
there hands start shaking for no apparent reason.  Also what was with Ben 
Horne's strange look of shock in the last episode (I think) when he turned 
and looked back into his office?

     _______________________________________________________________
    |    ________________    ________ |                             |
    |       /  ___  ___ ____    /     |   Jason "Toast" McDonald    |
    |      /  /  / /__//___    /      |   910427m@ace.acadiau.ca    |
    |     /  /__/ /  / ___/   /       |   Acadia University,        |
    |---------------------------------|   Wolfville, Nova Scotia    |
    | If you are quite finished, I     -----------------------------
    |  believe I shall save the world now.|
     -------------------------------------

On the TV show Eerie, Indiana this past Sunday, Marshall is being menaced by a  
werewolf when a weird gray-haired kid comes up behind it and bonks it on the  
head with a piece of wood, knocking it out.

Marshall says, "You!" recognizing him from last week's episode.

The kid says, "Who did you expect?  The Log Lady?"

--

---Alfvaen(and yes, I'm a serendipitist!)
Canadian Network For Space Research, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
The more things change, the more they remain things.
Current Album--Michael Breen
 "Light to see, and time to grow--how will I know?"

SD>  If you have any articles, interviews or television appearances that might
SD> be usefull to me, I would very much appreciate hearing from you. As soon as

Here's a part of a article about Isabella Rossellini, with a statement
from her, which suprised me quite a bit:

    She ended her 5 year old relation with David Lynch in a short
    cut. "I suprised him in his apartment and discoverd strange glass
    tubes. Rats layed in alcohol, heads of small crocodiles. I had
    only fear [after that]"

    Hoerzu, 11/92


Seems if Lynch is a weirdo in private too and if he scared his wife away..


Bye, Marc



Notes regarding my translation: (no dictonary available.. :-)

short cut -- put a wire between the two poles of an electrical power
             source und you've produced a "Kurzschluss".

glass tubes -- "Reagenzglaeser" those small glass tubes, which are used
               by chemists.

From article <1992Mar10.183436.16384@risky.ecs.umass.edu>, by giovin@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo):
>.....
> Someone has these pictures, but needs to know what the "numbers" are
> for audrey.sait.edu.au? (i.e. 117.28.3.120) I have no idea how to
> determine these numbers, could someone help me?
>
> Thanks,
> Rocky Giovinazzo
> giovin@risky.ecs.umass.edu

Hope this helps-

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: audrey.sait.edu.au
Address: 130.220.16.88
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Picked this up today from alt.flame.gigantic.sigs. I corrected a
few deliberate miss-spellings and mistakes. Thought you may appreciate it.

Neil

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In article <14fb86cd@p2.f47.n242.z2.fidonet.org>, Stewart_Schultz@dungeon.fido.de (Stewart Schultz) writes:
> > GD> week. I'll have to check it out. BTW, a few weeks back, in the
> > GD> original "Coffee" post, the author theorized that the door to
> > GD> the White Lodge was in the coffee. The more and more I think
> > GD> about it, this seems to be the case. Now, in explaining, I should
> > 
For those of you who are into tastelessness, there is a thread on alt.tasteless 
about coffee and its effects on urine.
M
> > Bye, Marc

RE: The Metamorphasis:

I read about Lynch's beetle-suit prob (no thanks to the wise-ass) in a magazine
interview... that was half a year ago. A person who seems to be "on the
up-and-up" about varying projects of this nature indicates to me that the whole
idea was scrapped, thanks in part to the new "Kafka" (quotes are mine...)
flick. In fact, word is that Lynch has had his hat in for "The Metaph" since
The Early Days,  but typically, of a director "isn't wanted" to do a project,
there are plenty of ways to keep it out of those particular hands... one, of
course, being to sell the rights to ANOTHER director.........
So ixnay on the etamorphasismay

Further (and on a more appropos note, theorhetically,) for anyone who's
interested, this same "Source" says that the Peaks feature film is in the can,
but cannot get an american distributor! Apparently, Lynch is working right now
for a french film company, which is next going to re-finance a re-mastering of
Eraserhead.

All of this, of course, from a guy who tells me these things just because I'll
listen to THEM.......

                                        - Rez

>>> >>>drbenway@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Overload) writes:
>>>> >>>>Is the horse a symbol of death or of everlasting life or...

According to my wife (who is a Thai/Chinese Buddhist) the white horse is 
a symbol of death.  She pointed this out in realtime the first time it 
appeared to Laura's mom.

A month or two ago I mentioned that David Lynch is
producing a new comedy series, to begin airing in April...
It's called "On The Air", and will include 6 episodes
in addition to the pilot.  Or was it including the pilot?...
Anyway when I phoned Scott Frost last weekend they had just
finished shooting the episode that he wrote.

Scott also mentioned to look for his sister in "Nightmare
Cafe".


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