Season 2, Episode 16: The Condemned Woman — February 16–March 27, 1991

Kyle McClachlan is 32 today (according to ET).

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In article <1991Feb22.160050.19230@watserv1.waterloo.edu> alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes:
> > 
> >The moral hero of Twin Peaks, agent Cooper, is seeking a stalemate in his
> >conflict on the chess board and in real life. Cooper does not want to kill
> >or utterly defeat his opponent. Instead, Cooper wants to stop his opponent with 
> >a minimum of blood shed. Cooper isn't going for a win. He just wants the
> >war game to stop.
> > 
> >Is it possible that the abrupt elimination of this show, featuring this
> >particular moral philosophy at this particular time could be political?
> >Could the american network have received orders to pull the show until the
> >Gulf war is over?
> >

ummmmmmmm.............I love a good conspiracy as much as the next person, but
this is a bit too much.  If anyone was trying to get a message across, they'd
put it on a show that people actually watched.  I suppose it's comforting
to believe that there is enough order in the world that someone could actually
"order" a network to pull a show (something affiliates weren't able to do in thecase of "Cop Rock"), but I feel fairly safe in thinking that any similarities
between "Twin Peaks" (a show I like very much) and real life is accidental.
And not very much appreciated at that........

-- _______________________________________________________________________________ Tom Streeter streeter@athena.cs.uga.edu

According to ET (that's Entertainment Tonight, not the alien),
Kyle MacLachlan turned 32 years old today. (Feb 22., 1991)

Just thought some of you might be interested.

-Matt

In article <iF2qX3w163w@zitt>, joe@zitt (Joe Zitt) writes...

} Who is Helen Mirren?

Very accomplished British actress who's appeared in any number of films,
the most prominent being EXCALIBUR (in which she played Morgana), 2010
(in which she played the Captain of the Leonov), and THE COOK, THE THIEF,
HIS WIFE, AND HER LOVER (in which she plays The Wife).

[Note: This is *not* an invitation for people to randomly add titles to
the list of her credits. I *know* she's in more movies than this, but this
is not the appropriate newsgroup for it.]

-- "Have you ever made love to a revolutionary?" "No, but I once necked with a Stevenson Democrat." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <Jg4qX4w163w@zitt>, joe@zitt (Joe Zitt) writes...

} Has anyone compiled a list of major network Saturday 10 PM EST shows 
} over, say, the past 30 years? It might be interesting to see what they 
} have stuck there.

Well, GUNSMOKE lasted in that timeslot for 12 seasons (55/56-66/67),
MANNIX for 4 (67/68-70/71), THE CAROL BURNETT SHOW for 5 (73/74-77/78),
and FANTASY ISLAND for 4 (80/81-83/84).

Note: This info comes from the Prime Time Network Schedule Charts in
TOTAL TELEVISION. It doesn't take into account mid-season changes in
timeslot, though one assumes that if a show appeared for X years in
the same timeslot, that it *wasn't* bounced around (much) during that
time.

-- "Have you ever made love to a revolutionary?" "No, but I once necked with a Stevenson Democrat." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <1991Feb22.210612.341@nntp-server.caltech.edu> tlynch@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:


> >Note that BOB asked, "Coop? What...".  Not "Cooper", not "Dale", not anything
> >else--"Coop".  Now, I can only think of three people on TP who call Cooper 
> >"Coop":  Gordon, Albert (on occasion), and Truman.

> >Just a thought.

> >Tim Lynch

I believe that BOB/Leland called him Coop in the confession scene in the 
jail cell.  Something like "Not like what happened in Pittsburgh with the
knife, Coop?"  BOB seems to be familiar with his rival or pursuer (Cooer)

James O'Shea

"Whoo whoo whooo whoo whooo whooo ....   that's a yes"

Timothy W. Lynch writes:

> >Note that BOB asked, "Coop? What...".  Not "Cooper", not "Dale", not anything
> >else--"Coop".  Now, I can only think of three people on TP who call Cooper 
> >"Coop":  Gordon, Albert (on occasion), and Truman.

> >Just a thought.

6500jos8@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (James O'Shea) writes:

> >I believe that BOB/Leland called him Coop in the confession scene in the 
> >jail cell.  Something like "Not like what happened in Pittsburgh with the
> >knife, Coop?"  BOB seems to be familiar with his rival or pursuer (Cooer)

This strikes me as more the bully attitude -- deliberately calling
someone by a nickname that only their closest friends would use.  It's
an attempt to put you in the same camp with the bulley, an insult by
saying "I reject your rejection; see how close we are?"  In some sense
it might be kinship.

My newest theory: is the MFAP *Coopers* intended match?

My wife points out that there were numerous occasions when Bob appeared
without displacing someone, so his appearance is not necessarily a link
to Truman.  Similarly the giant displaced the singer when it's clear
he's associated with SDCTWMDRSW.  So let's not leap to conclusions.  Yet.

On a slightly different topic, an excruciating pun follows.

Clearly the Log Ladys husband is in the log.  Josie is in the nightstand.
The Log Lady carries the log around.  Cooper will undoubtably become
attached to the nightstand.  Thus he will still be getting into her
drawers.
-- "Perl is the BASIC of UNIX." -- Tom Christiansen

According to the New York Times TV guide, Twin peaks will be telecast at
it's usual time next saturday (March 2nd).

Hardeep.

-- Hardeep Johar hjohar@rnd.gba.nyu.edu Work phone: (212) 998-4205. If you really need to talk, wait for me to call.

In article <21347@know.pws.bull.com> ap056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (J. Scott Owens) writes:
> >
> >Trust me...this makes sense.
> >
> >eared last saturday, Truman AND Josie disappeared.
> >Bob asked "Coop, where is Josie?" ---NOT, "Coop, where is Josiew

This would make sense in a sort of twisted way IF
you had bothered to get the quote right.
BOB said, "COOP!  what happened to Josie!!!!!"
 


--
|  Erin K. Jacobs (TiffanyTwisted)    | "He was a hairy bear, he was a scary  |
|  ejacobs@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu       |  bear, we beat a hasty retreat from   |
|  IOWA: You can check out any time   |  his lair -- and then described him   |
|  you like but you can never leave   |  with adjectives!"  -Schoolhouse Rock |

In article <9102230142.AA06569@cwns2.INS.CWRU.Edu> ap056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
> >
> >
> >seems normal, I think we must think back alittle further in the show.
> >
> >Leland did not always act weird.  In the beginning, I recall him acting
> >fairly normal.  So much so, that I don't remember him starting off as
> >an obvious central character.  He seemed like a normal dad who lost
> >his daughter...until his hair turned white!  From that point, Leland 
> >moved central to the show and it became obvious that something was up.

One thing that interested me in reading the Diary was 
Laura's comments as a young child that BOB had ready
access to her house and began to visit her bedroom
frequently.  This seems to indicate to me that BOB had
been in Leland for quite some time.  Any comments?

> >Maybe we should see if Truman's hair turns white after he kills the one
> >he loves most...
> >

I don't think Leland's hair turned white right after he
killed Laura... I think it was even after the funeral.
And, in a manner of speaking, Cooper himself killed the one
he loves most.  


As for the campaign to save Peaks goes, maybe you should
keep in mind that other networks are not going to pick up
the show unless we demonstrate our outrage at it being 
cancelled (hiatus-ized) in the first place.


> >-------
--
|  Erin K. Jacobs (TiffanyTwisted)    | "He was a hairy bear, he was a scary  |
|  ejacobs@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu       |  bear, we beat a hasty retreat from   |
|  IOWA: You can check out any time   |  his lair -- and then described him   |
|  you like but you can never leave   |  with adjectives!"  -Schoolhouse Rock |

In article <norman.667177587@crevenia> norman@parc.xerox.com (Norman Adams) writes:
> >The effectiveness of commercials might also be somewhat diminished
> >when a show is viewed by a large group.

I don't know about the rest of you, but commercials are a waste of time as
far as I'm concerned.  When I want something, I buy what's best for me, not
what has the loudest commercials or what the most number of people in the
United States buy.  And then on the OTHER hand, sometimes there isn't even
a DIFFERENCE between Brand Foo and Brand Bar (such as all these pain
relievers which have the exact same amounts of the exact same drugs) so
again the commercials are a gross waste of money, time, bandwidth,
electricity, etc.

--
*  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp     | "Glittering prizes and
Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises
37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
Montgomery, PA 17752  | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!"  (Rush)

I don't know exactly why I am sharing this --- but why not.
I have written a letter in support of ^TP^ and thought I'd pass along
part of it.   PLEASE DON'T copy this for your own letters!  Be *creative*!
Thanks.

BBC

------------ begin included stuff -------

[other stuff I wrote omitted for breveity]

I would like to remind you of an similar set of circumstances
occurring at a television network some years ago.  It was airing a
show which only drew mediocre ratings, yet held some critical acclaim, 
and had its share of fans.  The show muddled along for two years, then
was nearly cancelled but after a show of support from some fans
was reluctantly permitted a third season, but in a late (10PM) Friday night 
slot.   This time slot caused the ratings to plummet and the show was 
axed thereafter, presumably to be forgotten.

It is interesting that the current circumstances surrounding
``Twin Peaks'' in 1991, and ``Star Trek'' in 1969 are so similar.  Please
do not make the same mistake that NBC did then.  I'm sure that they do not look
back at their decision without a great deal of regret.  ``Twin Peaks'' holds
lots of promise, not as a cult show, nor because it has generated a following,
but because it \fIis\fR `good' television.  I am sure that you and others at
ABC would like to be remembered 20 years from now as people who valued
quality television and had the foresight to uphold those values and not
``those people who canned a good show before it found its niche and blossomed''.

In closing I would like to thank you for only placing the show 
on hiatus, thereby giving myself and others the opportunity to express 
our feelings while there is still time hopefully to make some sort of 
difference.  While the opinions of one viewer from New Mexico may not 
amount to much in the larger scheme of things, the fact that I have taken 
the time to express my opinions does at least indicate that I would feel 
a loss were this show to be cancelled permanently.  (Indeed, this is the 
first letter I have ever written to a network!)   Again thank you, and I 
hope to see more quality programming at the level of ``Twin Peaks'' (and 
including ``Twin Peaks'') airing on ABC affiliates in the future.

[etc.]

In article <21350@know.pws.bull.com> ap056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (J. Scott Owens) writes:
> >
> >If you will recall, each time Bob appears, the host disappers..
> >For that matter, anytime any spirit appears, the host disappears.
> >(Except for the "one-armed man", so this deserves some thought.)

What about that time at the Roadhouse when EVERYONE disappeared and the
Giant appeared and said "It is happening again"?  Were all the random
people in the Roadhouse host to the Giant?  (Wait a minute, maybe it was
just the band that disappeared, and the customers all froze.  I can't
remember.  Anyway, the point remains the same.)

Personally, I think that the people are only disappearing from Coop's point
of view.  Certainly they don't have any memory of having disappeared when
they return!  The question is what happens from THEIR point of view?  Does
Coop disappear?  Does Coop freeze?  Or do things just proceed normally?  I
suppose it could depend on whether the manifestations are mental or
physical.  Although even if they were physical, maybe Coop is transported
to a place where time flows much faster, so no time elapses when he
returns.  (I think I'll stop speculating wildly now...)

--
*  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp     | "Glittering prizes and
Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises
37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
Montgomery, PA 17752  | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!"  (Rush)

In article <9102220355.AA04167@cwns1.INS.CWRU.Edu> ap056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (J. Scott Owens) writes:
> >
> >Trust me...this makes sense.
> >
> >;l<N8!==$B$]
> >z;(P
> >KBw
> >B
> >=AEsu1z|=~<k Helvetica

Well, maybe to *you* it does...  :-)

(Hey, we've got to do *something* now that the show isn't on...)

--
*  From the disk of:  | jms@vanth.uucp     | "Glittering prizes and
Jim Shaffer, Jr.      | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises
37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
Montgomery, PA 17752  | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!"  (Rush)

This posting is to clarify to everyone that I DID in
fact misspell Laura's pony again.  I think I'll
leave it misspelled and not corrected, in memory of
the HUGE horse-and-rider postings that took place
not to long ago.

SAVE TWIN PEAKS!!!
--
Jeff "Koganuts" Koga   1) "The 'Star Wars' Trilogy" by John Williams
Internet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu  2) "^TP^" by Angelo Baladamenti 
Bitnet: 6600koga@ucsbuxa.bitnet      3)  "STII:TWoK" by James Horner
Recommended CDs:        4) "Bugs Bunny on Broadway" by Carl Stalling

In article <oblLBAO00UhWA2VHMp@andrew.cmu.edu>ns05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nick Stratigos) writes:
> >I read that thirtysomething is disappearing for a while.  I'll bet we
> >see TP resurrected on Tuesday at 10:00pm.

I doubt it. ABC said they're preempting 30something for a new
midseason replacement series, the name of which escapes me
at the moment. 30something will be back in 6-7 weeks.

-- David E. Coufal coufal@owl.caltech.edu "One time I removed all the hair from a mouse with Nair-Hair just to see what it looked like. And it looked beautiful." - David K. Lynch

Regarding the theory that Bob is in HST because the hosts aren't visible
when the spirits manifest. One major problem with this theory -- when the
giant manifested at the roadhouse *everyone* in the roadhouse disappeared
from Cooper's viewpoint.

In article <1991Feb19.204650.16733@riacs.edu> howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:
> >Are ABC execs as stupid as they appear to be? All this talk about low
> >ratings and how no one is staying home on Saturday night to watch Twin
> >Peaks... I don't know about any of you but I *never* watch TP on
> >Saturday night. I *always* watch it on Sunday afternoon or evening. This
> >is the miracle of videotape. Hasn't anybody at ABC heard of this
> >phenomena? Isn't it time the archaic ratings system was scrapped once
> >and for all? Face it, no one watches shows like TP in real time. Who
> >wants to watch a bunch of commercials?
> >

 Obviously TV execs are more stupid than anyone could imagine. In my 
letter to BoB (I mean Robert) I mentioned that even though on Saturdays
ALL my friends came over and watched with cherry pie and coffee, but that
each and every household represented video taped the show on their own
vcrs and watched it several times durring the week. I also mentioned that
I received the Sound Track CD for my last Birthday present and played it
whenever I felt I needed to relax during my business week. 

 My purpose in adding these details was to try and get the point established
that Twin Peaks sold a lot of merchandise (CD's, Blank Tape, Cassette Tapes,
DAMN good Coffee, Cherry pie, and doughnuts). I wanted to let them know in
my own small way that taking off TP would only further the current economic
down trend. That , yes, this anti American act would severely compromise the
efforts of free men everywhere in the world! :-)

> >Hell, I knew TP was doomed the minute they put in on the Saturday night
> >schedule. They always do this to shows they want to dump but haven't the
> >proper excuse for doing so.
 
 It does seem that there is a serious evil in the oak desks of ABC's
programming department. They must have people who really work covertly
for NBC and CBS in high places. 


> >
> >--
> >John Howells
> >howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov 
> >howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov


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I too have 3 copies of the Twin Peaks Gazette to give away since everyone
I know has one already.  If you want one, send me your address and I will
let them know.  

Why does the N.Y. Times have Twin Peaks on next Sat. night?  Is it really
back?   

I hope so....
Gian Di Loreto (UR) ma2cs240@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

In article <10340007@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood) writes:

> >---------------------
> >Next week:  Star Trek downlink is a rerun
> >            The Empire Strikes Back replaces Dark Shadows
> >            No Twin Peaks
> >     <<<<< ------- ARRGGGHHH!!! ------- >>>>>
> >
Just curious, how many of you folks out there are regular viewers of
these three shows.  I always like this sort of programming, and it
always get cancelled -- STNG, being a noted, syndicated exception.  

--o---------------------------------------------------------------------o
  o   sac@lamar.colostate.edu              -Truth fades                 o
o      (Dept. of Chemistry)            --In the reality of lies       o  
o----------------------------------///--------------------------------o

Man Twin Peeaks ain't on but at least the replacement they
got was preempted by the news.  Ha!

^ Matt ^
.

Raw Deal didn't make it on here on the west coase (probably
not on the East Coast either, but how would I know).  So Twin
Peaks wasn't on this week... big deal.  It would have been
pre-empted anyway.  

On channel 11 here in the Bay Area (SF), they showed _Star Trek:
The Next Generation_ at 10pm after ABC's war coverage ended.  A 
fitting temporary replacement for TP.  

Is there any truth to this (repeated) rumor that TP will be
on next week (March 2nd) at the regular time?  I would think
it is just various TV guides not getting the databases updated
on time.  Raw Deal must have been scheduled even w/o the
hiatus-izing of TP.

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]In article <i9mNX4w164w@halcyon.uucp> halcyon!hikaru@sumax.seattleu.edu (Demosthenes) writes:
]> James Marshall's lack
]>of acting ability is exceeded only by his lack of looks, but James Hurley
]>himself is an interesting character.
]
]Sometimes I wonder what people think actors DO.

Me to. I happen to think that James Marshall does fine, In fact, I can't
recall even one case of bad acting in the entire show.

It seems to me that some people are taking their dislike for certain
characters out on the actors and actreses who play said characters.


-- 
There is very little gray in the world. Most gray is an illusion, Meerly the
result of many people's private lies combining, Until the truth is totally
lost amongst the haze.
mke@kaberd.rain.com or mke@redsun.pps.rain.com

As I reported in my earlier article on COOP, David Lynch has been
communicating to the Baltimore/Washington chapter of COOP, and *he*
says, "Tell everyone to ask for *WEDNESDAY* night!"

    --Fiona

In article <166@3cpu.UUCP> edrury@.UUCP (Ed Drury) writes:
 
> > It does seem that there is a serious evil in the oak desks of ABC's
> >programming department. They must have people who really work covertly
> >for NBC and CBS in high places. 

Well, this certainly sheds new light on those little memo pads that
say "From the Desk of", anyway.  I always wondered about that.

--
 Rod Johnson  *  rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu  *  (313) 650 2315 

                "Life has a throat" --Peter Blegvad

In article <13155@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> sac@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Sheila Como) writes:
> >In article <10340007@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood) writes:
> >
>> >>---------------------
>> >>Next week:  Star Trek downlink is a rerun
>> >>            The Empire Strikes Back replaces Dark Shadows
>> >>            No Twin Peaks
>> >>     <<<<< ------- ARRGGGHHH!!! ------- >>>>>
>> >>
> >Just curious, how many of you folks out there are regular viewers of
> >these three shows.  I always like this sort of programming, and it
> >always get cancelled -- STNG, being a noted, syndicated exception.  
> >
These three shows (and war coverage, nowadays) are virtually all I
watch.  It's just doesn't seem worthwhile to wade through all the drivel
to find the few other shows that are worth watching -- especially when
networks start shuffling schedules.  I'll follow Twin Peaks to whatever
time-slot it lands in (armed with my VCR remote), because -- let's face
it -- I'm addicted to it, just like most of you out there.  But, God, do
I miss cable TV!

-- Jack




--
My .sig is classified.  I could show it to you, but I'd have to kill you.

In article <12072@pt.cs.cmu.edu> kck@g.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Karl Kluge) writes:
> >Regarding the theory that Bob is in HST because the hosts aren't visible
> >when the spirits manifest. One major problem with this theory -- when the
> >giant manifested at the roadhouse *everyone* in the roadhouse disappeared
>from Cooper's viewpoint.
 
That would fit perfectly the theory that the Giant is the collective
awareness, the collective unconscious.
 
a.h.

In article <1991Feb22.160050.19230@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes...

[a ludicrous conspiracy theory that ABC received orders from the 
US government to pull Twin Peaks, thereby preventing the peace
movement from gaining ground]

Oh, how I long for a newsreader capable of killing articles by
author, so that never again will I have to run into the crazed
babblings of our Canadian conspiracy theorist, who is unable to
distinguish between an entertaining TV show and the real world.

Tom Neff makes some excellent points about how we could tell if there
were bias or inconsistency in the Nielsen ratings, and also about how
many millions of viewers it takes to make a hit show.  He also says:
> >The problem is that almost every other show does BETTER [than TP].

I'm not sayin' you're wrong, Tom, because I surely don't know, but
how does this notion that almost every other show does better, jibe
with the item I quoted previously from the Viewers for Quality Tele-
vision--which was that "Twin Peaks" was the 17th most-watched show
in the period Jan. 7-20?  Is #17 not really very impressive?  Or is
that just a flukey statistic?  Or what? 

--Fiona O.

With regard to the souls-in-wood theory, also mentioned by other in the
newsgroup, Ann Hodgins writes:
> >Maybe the spirits of dying people are drawn to wood as lightening is
> >drawn to a lightening rod.

A wild, perhaps dendrocephalic, speculation:  Could it be that the souls
of Laura and Maddie are still out there in the TP universe somewhere--
trapped in the wooden floor of the boxcar, or the wooden frame of the
Montana picture?

      --Fiona O.

In article <1991Feb24.195206.4539@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Oceanstar) writes:
> >With regard to the souls-in-wood theory, also mentioned by other in the
> >newsgroup, Ann Hodgins writes:
>> >>Maybe the spirits of dying people are drawn to wood as lightening is
>> >>drawn to a lightening rod.
> >A wild, perhaps dendrocephalic, speculation:  Could it be that the souls
> >of Laura and Maddie are still out there in the TP universe somewhere--
> >trapped in the wooden floor of the boxcar, or the wooden frame of the
> >Montana picture?
> >      --Fiona O.

Nah- Maddie is trapped in wood alright- Leland's 1 wood...
<foooore!>

';-)


rON. (blowfish@triton.unm.edu!ariel.unm.edu)
"It is only with the heart that one see rightly;
 what is essential is invisible to the eye."

My TV guide lists Twin Peaks as being on next Saturday at
9.

Is this a cruel misprint?  Is it a rerun?  Are they going to
torture us?

doug.

-Give Peaks a Chance-

When I got back onto the newsgroup last week, after my own personal
"hiatus," folks were talking about a Shelley poem.  Was it quoted
on the show?  If so, in what scene, what episode?

E-mail to me, since I'm sure y'all are weary of the subject.

--Fiona
  fi@grebyn.com

Just saw an NBC commercial:

Stuffed shirt is shown by his desk and identified as head of programming (or
some such job).  He says that he has been inundated with mail from Quantum
Leap fans asking him to move QL back to its wednesday night slot.  He very
angrily waves his finger at the screen and says (beligerently), You know what
I say to that?  At which point a ton of mail falls on his head, he looks 
stunned, and says very meekly, Ok.
Get the point?  Maybe these MGS executives do actually listen if they hear
the messsage loud enough.

Dave

"Invitation to Love" is what's happening off in the Lodge Zone. 
Characters there have direct correlation to characters in Twin Peaks, 
though the correlations are a mystery (possibly because so much of 
"Invitation to Love" is sitting on TP's cutting room floor.

Thus, BOB was addressing Maddy by her ItL name when he bellowed, "Leland 
says you're going back to Missoula, MONTANA!"

:-)

It is happening again.      It is happening again.      It is happening again.
Joe Zitt ...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe (512)450-1916

]From 3cpu!percy!qiclab!pdxgate!tektronix!zephyr.ens.tek.com!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!grebyn!fi Sun Feb 24 22:22:47 PST 1991
]
]With regard to the souls-in-wood theory, also mentioned by other in the
]newsgroup, Ann Hodgins writes:
]>Maybe the spirits of dying people are drawn to wood as lightening is
]>drawn to a lightening rod.
]
]A wild, perhaps dendrocephalic, speculation:  Could it be that the souls
]of Laura and Maddie are still out there in the TP universe somewhere--
]trapped in the wooden floor of the boxcar, or the wooden frame of the
]Montana picture?
]
]      --Fiona O.

I'd bet on it.  I've long had the feeling that they are still around.  
The face of Laura superimposed on Donnas plus Donnas wierd behaviour
at the begining of the season would tend to support this.  And the
name Ghostwood...  It all seems to be fitting together.

The question is, will we ever get a chance to find out exactly what 
all of this was leading up to?




-- There is very little gray in the world. Most gray is an illusion, Meerly the result of many people's private lies combining, Until the truth is totally lost amongst the haze. mke@kaberd.rain.com or mke@redsun.pps.rain.com

I don't know much about Twin Peaks, but can someone tell me
what references were made by it to Tibet and Tibet related
topics? Why were they made?

-----
Hugh Garsden
University of Adelaide
hugh@cs.adelaide.edu.au

> > Check out how many TPers are in David Lynch's "Dune".
> > 
> > Big Ed, Cooper, Pete, anymore?

'Scuse me if this has been mentioned before, but...
we were watching Robocop the other week and were surprised to count three.
(Leland, Andrew, and, of course, Albert.)

Hmm.  An interesting thought-- Peter Weller appearing on Twin Peaks.
"Well, Coop, no matter where BOB goes... there he is."

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / tuttle@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (David L. Claytor) /  6:52 pm  Feb 20, 1991 /

> > If ABC had 
> > been on their toes, they'd have sought advertising that was as innovative 
> > and exciting as the program -- advertising targeted specifically to the 
> > TP audience -- the kind advertising that utilized commercials that people 
> > would talk about the next day at the office.  Remember those crazy VW 
> > ads?  The Macintosh commercials?

I don't know how specific times are allocated to advertisers in the US, but
isn't it possible that no-one specifically wanted to target the TP audience?

Richard.

"This is getting me nowhere."

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / plummer@cs.swarthmore.edu (David Barker-Plummer) /  2:30 pm  Feb 21, 1991 /

> > On the other hand, it is possible that, when Frost/Lynch heard that TP
> > was being cancelled they just called everyone who was available and said 
> > "come on down".

I heard a rumo(u)r that Lynch wanted to invite the entire TP audience down to
Snoquamie to appear in the final episode, provided they pay their own
transportation and lodging costs. Apparently this is the only way ABC would
allow Lynch to show the entire Twin Peaks population of 52,000 (sp?).

Richard.
"I heard a rumour in English."

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / tim@tadsrc.uucp /  1:57 pm  Feb 21, 1991 /
antofi@romeo.caltech.edu (Figl, Antonio) writes:

> > I hope the BBC, being a non ratings-driven organisztion will show all the
> > episodes that have been made.  At least we get them without any breaks.

You think the BBC isn't ratings-driven?

For the benefit of US readers, the BBC is funded by a licence fee paid by
everyone who owns a TV (even if they swear they never watch BBC). The fee
is set by the Government, who seem to be particularly interested in the
value provided by the BBC.

I would suggest that in the past few years the BBC has been particularly
ratings-driven, though perhaps taking a longer-term view than the US
networks.

Richard.
"'Hello, Hello' - highbrow?"

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) /  5:14 am  Feb 21, 1991 /

>> >>re #8:  (the poem):  I thought line #3 was "One chance heart between two
>> >>worlds" probably referring to LP, possibly the heart necklace that connects
>> >>her bizarre world to the normal one that James represents....

Wasn't this as reported in the closed-caption transcription of the 1/26
episode?

Richard.
"This is getting me nowhere."

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / bskendig@tan.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) /  6:19 pm  Feb 21, 1991 /

> > I agree -- Truman is not what he seems.  I mean, look at the name:
> > Truman.  True man!  (The `Harry S.' business was just a red herring,
> > to mislead us.)

Wasn't the "S." in "Harry S. Truman" a phantom initial? Or did it stand for
the name of a Communist (or am I thinking of some other American?)

Richard.
"Franklin D. Roosevelt."

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) /  4:00 pm  Feb 22, 1991 /
 
> > Is it possible that the abrupt elimination of this show, featuring this
> > particular moral philosophy at this particular time could be political?
> > Could the american network have received orders to pull the show until the
> > Gulf war is over?

UK TV and radio stations have certainly taken shows/songs off the air because
they were considered to be war-related. I think C4 delayed airing a series
on Vietnam because of the Gulf war.

Richard.
"The Republican Guard's behind you."

Here is a review of Twin Peaks published before the first 2-hour episode
aired, in April of last year. At the time I thought the review was quite
well done, and in retrospect it holds up remerkably well. Rafferty compares
Lynch's work to that of Buneul and the other surrealists, a connection that
I don't think has been made here. Enjoy. Reproduced entirely without per-
mission.

Keith Dawson       <dawson@epps.kodak.com>
My convictions are not for public display.

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Review of Twin Peaks by Terrence Rafferty
Published in the *New Yorker* for April 9, 1990

One Thing After Another
-----------------------
On the face of it, the idea of David Lynch's creating a series for tele- 
vision sounds like a joke. His movies, which include "Eraserhead," "The
Elephant Man," and "Blue Velvet," are everything that American television
isn't: adventurous, disturbing, erotic, visually exciting, and absolutely
personal. What could he possibly do for the bland, corporate medium of
prime-time television? And what could it do for him (other than make studio
moviemaking look liberating by comparison)? Next Sunday night, April 8th,
his series, "Twin Peaks," is having its premiere. The first episode, two
hours long, is directed by Lynch, from a script he wrote with Mark Frost
(who worked on "Hill Street Blues"), and it's miraculously good. It has both
the insidious weirdness of Lynch's best movie work and the wierd insidious-
ness of top-of-the-line TV trash. In form, it's a multi-character, multi-
plot continuing narrative: a soap opera that, like "Knot's Landing," is
named for its small-town locale. Lynch uses the conventions of the genre
with startling ease -- giving them a bit of a spin, of course, but never
really violating them. He heightens all the distinctive elements of soap
opera: the outre names, the cozy familiarity of the characters, and the
absurd financial intrigues, the guilty secrets, the constant spying and
eavesdropping, the earnest telephone conversations, the sudden outbursts of
emotion, and the unscrupulous arbitrariness of the plotting. Everything that
happens in "Twin Peaks" is in the normal range of TV serial drama, yet this
ordinary stuff is treated with an imaginative intensity that makes it
strange and new. It's as if Lynch didn't recognize any difference between
the highest movie art and the lowest television craft. The story is banal,
but the images grip you with as much power as anything we could see on a big
screen (and the score, by Angelo Badalamenti, is lush enough to fill any
theatre). Lynch hasn't just adapted himself to the peculiar qualities of the
medium; he actually seems to thrive on them. This all-American surrealist
takes to television like a parasite to an especially nourishing host.

In a sense, "Twin Peaks" is a smoother, less upsetting version of "Blue
Velvet." Just as the series based on Robert Altman's "M*A*S*H" gently purged
the movie's four-letter words, blasphemous humor, and grisly medical detail,
this show does without the overt shocks of "Blue Velvet": the outrageous
degeneracy of the characters played by Dennis Hopper and Dean Stockwell, the
explicit voyeurism, the unnervingly intimate violence. "Twin Peaks" does not
put a naked, bruised woman in our living rooms. The nude female body in the
first scene of the series is wrapped, discreetly, in plastic, and is dead;
it is found on a riverbank by a middle-aged fisherman. The corpse -- which
proves to be that of Laura Palmer, the local high school's homecoming queen
-- has blue lips and ratty, straggly hair. It's the deadest-looking thing
you've ever seen on television -- a medium that, over the years, has
repeatedly demonstrated its expertise in making human beings look lifeless.
We recognize this body as the device that will set a plot in motion: the
jarring element in a calmly beautiful Pacific Northwest landscape, the
object that will, in classic soap-opera fashion, reveal the passions
seething beneath the surface of an apparently placid community, or something
like that. But there's nothing mechanical about the way Lynch gets his story
going. He fills this expository scene with luxurious details, delicate
traces of mysteries within the mystery, hints that there may be things about
Twin Peaks which will remain elusive, unexplained: we see a lovely Oriental
woman (Joan Chen) gazing at herself in a mirror and humming; merging with
the barely audible melody is the sound of a foghorn in the distance; the
fisherman, just before he comes upon the body, mumbles, "The lonesome
foghorn blows"; the light of the mountain landscape is soft and gray; the
faint sounds accentuate the early-morning quiet; and every movement
(including the camera's) is eerily deliberate. We'll surely find out, in
some later episode, who killed Laura Palmer; but we may never learn what
song the Oriental woman hummed, or what made the fisherman voice that
ironic, self-conscious remark about a sound he must hear every morning -- or
why this idyllic setting fills us with such apprehension. Within five
minutes of the opening of "Twin Peaks" we know we're in David Lynch's world
-- unmistakable even on the small screen, shocking and beautiful even when
wrapped in a plastic shroud.

And he holds us there, right up to the final blackout. He introduces a slew
of characters, establishes their tangled relationships, shows us the
terrain, scatters clues to the murder, revs up a fleet of subplots, hints at
an appropriate number of dark secrets and obscure motivations, throws in
plenty of goofy jokes -- and does it all seamlessly. He varies the tone,
sometimes radically, but he never breaks the odd, hushed mood, which is as
overpowering and immutable as the neutral sky. Although terrible things
happen, or seem about to, in Twin Peaks, it has the air of an enchanted
place, a fairy-tale woodland. As ominous as it is, we don't really want to
run away from it -- we want to remain enveloped in this dreadful forest, to
learn how to see in the complex darkness.

Besides, the show is tremendous fun. Soon after the discovery of the body,
Lynch goes to a bizarrely funny scene in which an associate of the victim's
father is making a business presentation, trying to persuade a roomful of
visiting Norwegians to buy Twin Peaks' resort lodge; all the dumb jokes and
excruciating cliches that come out of his mouth ("Health and industry go
hand in hand") linger in the air for a few seconds while they wait for the
simultaneous translation, and the effect is hilarious. The investigating
authorities here include a deputy sheriff who always bursts into tears at
crime scenes, an young sheriff whose name is Harry S. Truman, and an F.B.I.
agent (played by Kyle McLachlan, of "Blue Velvet"), who's entirely on his
own wavelength. Agent Cooper is a glittery-eyed Boy Scout type who chatters
constantly into a microcassette recorder; he records not only important
facts about the case but also the details of that days' lunch, the qualities
he looks for in a motel -- all kinds of mundane trivia. He loves to know the
names of things: Douglas firs, snowshoe rabbits. His mercurial alternation
of ferocious concentration on the investigation and equally intense
absorption in pure irrelevancies makes for some wild, original comedy. It
also expresses the spirit of the whole enterprise: in "Twin Peaks" even the
tiniest things matter, and there are moments when the sheer unfamiliarity of
what we're seeing hits us in peculiar ways -- when a sombre, frightening
scene produces a sudden access of delight.

For all the digressions and lush atmosphere and unpredictable laughs,
though, "Twin Peaks" does a sensational job of storytelling. It has
extraordinary momentum -- you can't wait for the next episode. (The series
will continue on the Thursday following the premiere, with Lynch and Frost,
as executive producers, supervising the remaining episodes. Seven hour-long
installments are scheduled; the show could return in the fall as a weekly
series.) But it almost doesn't matter whether the rest of the series is any
good. Even with the narrative unfinished, these first two hours are
thoroughly satisfying. Stories just go on and on anyway, until someone says
the hell with it and stops them. There's a great freedom, if you know how to
use it, in the one-thing-after-another arbitrariness of open-ended forms
like soap opera. The early surrealists loved the nonsensical, interminable
inventiveness of pulp serials (like the books and silent movies about the
arch-criminal Fantomas). David Lynch's sensibility works the same way: he
just wants to show us one astonishing thing after another, and quit when his
time's up. Looked at as a surrealist work, the chunk of "Twin Peaks" that's
on view this coming Sunday is no more unresolved than Bunuel's "The Discreet
Charm of the Bourgeoisie," in which the characters, after a bunch of
ludicrous and dreamlike adventures, are last seen striding purposefully down
a deserted country road. They could be going anywhere; if Bunuel had turned
the movie into a TV series -- some sort of demented, absurdist "Route 66" --
we'd find out where, but we don't really need to. Works like Bunuel's and
Lynch's derive their force -- even their narrative force -- from the swift
movement of the artist's mind, a strong current of ideas and imaginative
energy. Lynch's talent flows freely in "Twin Peaks," and carries us into
unmapped territory. It's an exhilarating ride, at once scary and
mysteriously tranquil, like the children's nighttime journey down the river
in "The Night of the Hunter." Lynch sets us drifting through a vivid dream
of American life, and wakes us, two hours later, with the message that all
dreams (and all soap operas) imply: "To Be Continued."

Does anybody know who to speak to at HBO?  They seem to be willing to try interesting shows (Tales from the Crypt, Dream On, etc).  I'd certainly
be willing to pay to see Twin Peaks.

Here in Chicago one of our news stations (I think ch. 5, NBC) has
a media commentator who goes by the name "Deeb" (and who looks
like there's a `w' missing from his name), and he said that Twin
Peaks will be cancelled until at least JUNE, at which point...if
it does come back at all...the remaining six episodes of the
season will be shown.

- Greg Sandell
****************************************************************
* Greg Sandell (sandell@ils.nwu.edu)          Evanston, IL USA *
* Institute for the Learning Sciences, Northwestern University *
****************************************************************

Has anyone been keeping track of "owl objects" in Twin Peaks?  I mean besides
actual owls, of course.  The ones I know of are:

     1) The owl lamp at the Briggs' in episode 2012
     2) The stuffed owl in episode 2014
     3) The owl drawing next to Catherine's phone in 2014
     4) The owl under glass on Truman's desk in 2016

I'm sure there have been more, but I can't remember where or when.
Any additions?



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No reason to stop discussing TP just because it's gone for a
while, so here are some things I haven't seen mentioned yet:

Any ideas on what Eckhart meant when Andrew mentioned the
sheriff, and he said "I have taken care of that."  Sounded very
ominous.  Looks like a future plot twist.

Did anyone notice that John Justice Wheeler checked into room
215, right under Cooper's (315)?  Coincidence?

I thought Josie's reason for shooting Cooper ("Because you came
here") was *very* spooky, given that Jean Renault said basically
the same thing.  Cooper is obviously special somehow and
important in ways we (and probably he) doesn't yet know.  I think
this will be an important part of the final climax/resolution of
the show.

I loved Ben giving his little "clean air" speech while smoking.
I also liked Pete's and Andrew's scene together.  I can't wait to
find out what happens with the "gathering of angels."

Despite what some people say, TP is still an intriguing program.
Some of the recent plots, esp. the Major/Disappearance/Giant
Owl/Lodges thing, are just as interesting as WKLP, at least to
me.  The visuals are still good.  The only real problem has been
with some of the terrible dialogue lately, and that can be fixed. 
The acting is still good, except that which has been bad from the
beginning.  A third season, however unlikely, would be *very nice
indeed*.


*BTW, I keep wondering when Lana is going to to the same thing to
the Mayor that she did to his brother.  Then Cooper would have
yet another reason to stay in Twin Peaks - to run for mayor!!  I
can just see Coop governing the town, with help from The Giant: 
"I came here to tell you three things.  First: BOB has returned. 
Second: New zoning regulations...."  :-)



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I just saw an ad for Quantum Leap in which an NBC "executive" (actor)
says that due to "a few letters" the show will return to its Wednesday
time slot.  Then a whole sh*tload of letters pile up on top of the
guy as he says "OK - You win!".

What does this have to do with TP?  Well, obviously an intense letter
writing campaign worked at NBC.  Maybe it'll work at ABC too.

Brian Wood

In article <9875@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> hjohar@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (hjohar) writes:
> >According to the New York Times TV guide, Twin peaks will be telecast at
> >it's usual time next saturday (March 2nd).
> >
In keeping with the soft drink industry, will it return as Twin Peaks
Classic.  I wonder if the cancellation was a publicity stunt.  Since they
claimed very few people watch it, why all the hype to announce it was
being cancelled?  As El Lettero would say, " TV executives are all
weasels."

Hello again,

Well, I'm suffering from serious withdrawal pains, so I'm taking
two exams and I'll call you in the morning.  :-)  Here is the updated list
for the first five episodes in spring 1991 (whatever their numbers are).
I have had no comments, suggestions or criticisms about the choices or
style.  I can't be doing _that_ good of a job  :-).  I would appreciate
any and all feedback.  Maybe some from Rob J.
Two people did e-mail me regarding the list, but our mailer went
down and I lost their addresses.  Please try again and I will make sure
to save them.  

Keep writing those letters!

charles d. kincaid

Please send feedback to (NeXTMail)  statman@sole.stat.ufl.edu.  Thanks.

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Albert:    Coop, about the uniform.
Cooper:    Yes, Albert?
Albert:    Usually, replacing the quiet elegance of the dark suit and tie 
           for the casual indifference of these muted earthtones is a form
           of fashion suicide.  But, call me crazy, on you it works.

Judy Swain:   An orphan, you know.
Andy:         Really?  What happened?  Did his parents die?

Irene:     Of all the people in the world, the best and the worst are 
           drawn to a dead dog.  Most turn away.  Only the pure of heart
           can feel its pain.  And somewhere in between the rest of us
           struggle.

Audrey:    They have women agents?
Denise:    More or less.
                               
Denise:    I may be wearing a dress, but I still pull my panties on one leg
           at a time, if you know what I mean.
Cooper:    Not really.

Audrey:    I've examined his will Jerry.  If my father becomes incapacitated,
           it all goes to me when I'm old enough.  And I am old enough and  
           he is incapacitated.  Play it my way either way or the only project
           you'll be developing is selling baseboard heaters at the local
           cash-n-carry.
Jerry:   What's happened to the man is a tragedy.
Audrey:    Yea, Jerry, it's a tragedy.

Pete:      Now if there's chessboards in Heaven, Jose's sittin' next to
           the Lord.

Dwayne:    She killed him with SEX.

Dick:      Oh she doth teach the torches to burn bright  (Andy sighs)
           It seems she hangs against the cheek of night
+ Doc:     Like a rich jewel in an ethiope's ear
           Beauty too rich for youth, for earth too dear.

Cooper:    Harry, Windom Earle's mind is like a diamond.  It's cold and
           hard and brilliant.

Dr Jacoby: What he needs right now is both your understanding and a Confederate
           victory.

Doc:       Is she sexually active?
Ed:        Active?  Doc, I wake up every morning feeling like I got hit by a
           timber truck.  

Ben:       You'll have to excuse me the chef just tried to stab Jerry.

Albert:    Get a life, punk.

Dr Jacoby: Now what she does in fact possess is a heightened sexual drive
           and a working knowledge of technique, anatomy and touch that
           few men have ever had the pleasure of experiencing or the 
           skills to match.
Harry:     Is it hot in here?
Cooper &
  Hawk:    Yea.

Pete:      We forgot the weinies, all beef with the skin on `em.

Ben:       I give you the little pine weasel found only in our tri-county
           area.  It is nearly extinct.
Jerry:     They're incredible roasted.

Andy:      Once stimulated the female will respond in such a way that the
           skin around her ...  Oh My God!

Cooper:    Great players are either far or few.

Malcom:   Mrs. Marsh hired him to fix the Jaguar.
Trooper:   Jaguar ... J-a-g-w ... uh, the car.

Shelly (from WE's note):  See the mountains kiss high heaven
  and the waves clasp one another.
  No sister flower would be forgiven
  if it disdained its brother.
  And the sunlight clasped the earth
  and the moonbeams kissed the sea.
  What is our sweet work worth
  if thou kiss not me?

BOB:       COOP, what happened to Josie?!

I posted earlier that I had three copies of the Twin Peaks Gazette to give
away, this morning I had 42 mail messages, so please, no more requests.  I
hope this many people wrote ABC!!

Is it on this Sat?  I hope so...
-Gian Di Loreto (UR)

In article <9875@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> hjohar@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (hjohar) writes:
> >According to the New York Times TV guide, Twin peaks will be telecast at
> >it's usual time next saturday (March 2nd).

Well according to the local newspapers' TV guides, TP was supposed to have
been on LAST Saturday too.  I think they must print these things at least
three weeks in advance.  I don't remember the last time I saw a 100%
accurate version.  (Although with the networks acting in such a capricious
manner with respect to programming, that might be impossible even if they
*were* competent.)


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In article <L4NsX1w163w@zitt> joe@zitt (Joe Zitt) writes:
> >
> >To paraphrase Ford Prefect: "Do you know how much damage you would do to
> >this steamroller if it ran over you? Absolutely none!"

Good analogy, but it would've been even more effective if you'd have
remembered that it wasn't Ford Prefect but Mr. Prosser, who was a direct
descendant of Gengis Khan.

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I think that a few important points have been missed here...

First, remember that the dying Leland repeatedly referred to "them."  "They made me kill that girl," etc.  BOB is not alone.

Second, Windham Earle knows an awful lot, doesn't he?  So does BOB (his nasty reference to Pittsburgh).  I suspect that Windham Earle and BOB get the same newsfeed.

Third, this is the first time that the white light preceded BOB.  In the past, it announced or was produced by the giant.  I would conclude for now that the white light represents a connection with any of one or more spiritual domains.

This suggests an evil force (and a good force as well) having multiple actors in the world.  I took BOB to simply be gloating.  BOB thinks all of this pain and death is really neat, and enjoys the fact that Coop is saddened and baffled by it.  But BOB is not necessarily directly responsible in this case.

Josie's willingness to kill to avoid Eckard suggests an extraordinary evil in him (we figure for starters that he was highly abusive, possible sexually).  There are similarities between Leland and Eckard: both abused women they appear to have truly loved.  In both cases, the women were driven to do evil themselves (though I admit Laura hurt herself more and Josie seemed driven mainly by self-preservation.

I see two strong possibilities:  BOB is one of many evil spirits (despite what Mike his ex-partner thought), indicating that Leland was accurate when he used "they" -or- BOB is the "face" of evil - merely representative of its presence, indicating that Leland was crazy, heard voices, etc.

Alan

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In article <13155@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> sac@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Sheila Como) writes:
> >In article <10340007@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood) writes:
> >
>> >>---------------------
>> >>Next week:  Star Trek downlink is a rerun
>> >>      The Empire Strikes Back replaces Dark Shadows
>> >>      No Twin Peaks
>> >>     <<<<< ------- ARRGGGHHH!!! ------- >>>>>
>> >>
> >Just curious, how many of you folks out there are regular viewers of
> >these three shows.  I always like this sort of programming, and it
> >always get cancelled -- STNG, being a noted, syndicated exception.

Count me in as a rabid viewer of all three!  (Although I also tuned in for
"Empire..." and found that ST:TNG wasn't a rerun yet.  Next week is, if the
local TV listings can be trusted.)

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37 Brook Street       | 72750.2335@compuserve.com    | shatter the illusion of
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Let us not forget what Laura had to say about James:  "He's sweet, but
he's SOOOOOOOOO dumb."

My wife and I say "he's sooooo dumb" to each other every time he comes on
the screen.  You're expecting plot threads with him acting smart?

-dB
"If it were easy to understand, we wouldn't call it 'code'"
David Brower: {amdahl, cpsc6a, mtxinu, sun}!rtech!daveb daveb@ingres.com

In article <9875@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> hjohar@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (hjohar) writes:
> >According to the New York Times TV guide, Twin peaks will be telecast at
> >it's usual time next saturday (March 2nd).

The thing is. . . those TV guides have *really* early deadlines, like
weeks before the week they're describing.  I don't doubt the NYT TV
guide and all the others that show TP as happening this week were set
well in advance of the announcement that TP was being cancelled.
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but there's no reason to take a TV
magazine's word about TP this week.  (That doesn't mean TP *won't* be
on either--just that the TV magazines aren't reliable on this.)

--
 Rod Johnson  *  rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu  *  (313) 650 2315 

                "Life has a throat" --Peter Blegvad

In article <1991Feb25.154232.3767@athena.mit.edu> jcpflueg@athena.mit.edu (John C Pflueger) writes:
> >
> >Does anybody know who to speak to at HBO?  They seem to be willing to try
> >interesting shows (Tales from the Crypt, Dream On, etc).  I'd certainly
> >be willing to pay to see Twin Peaks.
> > 
Or perhaps the Science-Fiction Channel will be interested.  I realize TP
is not, strictly speaking, science fiction, but it is unusual enough that
they might be interested.  And having such a critically praised show
would certainly be a major boost for them.  (Assuming the channel
doesn't simply disappear.  I hope not...)

blojo@soda.berkeley.edu writes:

> >'Scuse me if this has been mentioned before, but...
> >we were watching Robocop the other week and were surprised to count three.
> >(Leland, Andrew, and, of course, Albert.)

Leland?  Where does Ray Wise show up?  I remember the other two well enough, 
but I can't place Ray.

> >Hmm.  An interesting thought-- Peter Weller appearing on Twin Peaks.
> >"Well, Coop, no matter where BOB goes... there he is."

Yeah, but somehow, "The Adventures of BOBaroo Banzai--Beyond the White Lodge"
doesn't quite have the same ring...:-)

Tim Lynch

In article <1991Feb24.201609.10333@macc.wisc.edu> keir@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Rick Keir, MACC) writes:
> >
> >Oh, how I long for a newsreader capable of killing articles by
> >author, so that never again will I have to run into the crazed
> >babblings of our Canadian conspiracy theorist, who is unable to
> >distinguish between an entertaining TV show and the real world.
 
Somebody please help this man!  I know that it is
possible to kill files by author and I reply on that to separate me
from my detractors.
 
The canadian conspiracy theorist.

In article <142@soda> blojo@soda.berkeley.edu writes:
> >'Scuse me if this has been mentioned before, but...
> >we were watching Robocop the other week and were surprised to count three.
> >(Leland, Andrew, and, of course, Albert.)

What characters did they play???

When and where did Ray Wise's character appear??

What other work has Ray Wise done??

-Matt

A friend of mine recently talked with Harley Peyton, and he said the
show will be moved to Thursday nights at 10 PM Eastern.  As to *when*
it's coming back, I don't know.  But watch your Thursday night slot
like an owl-- uh, hawk!

More information as I get it ...

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"Yes, well, that's just the sort of blinkered philistine pig-ignorance
 I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage."

In article <1991Feb21.211302.8155@cs.utk.edu> michelle@cs.utk.edu (Michelle Davison) writes:
> >In article <AEC71C3100205C4D@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> UN040377@WVNVAXA.WVNET.EDU writes:
>> >>Question is, will the ratings REALLY be better on a weeknight?
>> >>
>> >>Kenneth Bays                UN040377@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
> >
> >Last season it was on on weeknights and it seemed to do well enough to
> >bring it back for a second season...
> >

Last night I saw a blurb on one of the entertainment shows, in which
they claimed that "Lynch/Frost were appealing to Twin-Peaks fans
to write the network, urging that TP be returned to a *weeknight*
timeslot".

So there we have it. If true, L/F seem to feel the timeslot is 
important. Write those letters......                         

-- ================================================================= Delia Cioffi: -- University of Houston: cioffi@menudo.uh.edu -- Stanford University: cioffi@psych.stanford.edu =================================================================

Ann Hodgins writes:
[ in response to my annoyed comment re:  her theory that
  Twin Peaks was cancelled in response to the US govt. ]
> >Somebody please help this man!  I know that it is
> >possible to kill files by author and I reply on that to separate me
>from my detractors.
> > 
> >The canadian conspiracy theorist.

OK.  That was really low -- a mild-mannered, temperate response 
to my annoyed flame at you.  Now I feel like a fool.  

Mind you, I still think that it is wildly off base to think
that the US govt has any concern at all about Twin Peaks.
But I shouldn't have let my annoyance at this lead to my 
using the "=idiot?" subject line.

By the way:  look at my site name.  I am posting from a VMS
site.  "rn" does not run here.  This is not a UNIX operating
system, nor even a UNIX clone operating system.  Our news-reader
is written in FORTRAN and supports few of the amenities of the
modern news reader;  kill files are not an option in any form.

In article <59940045@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> richardh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Hancock) writes:
> >/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / bskendig@tan.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) /  6:19 pm  Feb 21, 1991 /
> >
>> >> I agree -- Truman is not what he seems.  I mean, look at the name:
>> >> Truman.  True man!  (The `Harry S.' business was just a red herring,
>> >> to mislead us.)
> >
> >Wasn't the "S." in "Harry S. Truman" a phantom initial? Or did it stand for
> >the name of a Communist (or am I thinking of some other American?)

Yes, partly.  President Harry S Truman's middle name really was
nothing more than the letter S -- I remember once readong someting
about him not liking his middle name, or being disgusted by the idea
of middle names, or something, and dropping all but the first letter.
Or maybe he was named that from the start -- I don't know.

However, _our_ Truman has a middle name -- doesn't he?  I don't think
the S has ever been used as anything other than an initial.  It might
stand for something; it might be the entire middle name, just like the
President.

Any ideas, anyone?  :)  Could this be a CLUE?

     << Brian >>

| Brian S. Kendig      \ Macintosh |   Engineering,   | bskendig             |
| Computer Engineering |\ Thought  |  USS Enterprise  | @phoenix.Princeton.EDU
| Princeton University |_\ Police  | -= NCC-1701-D =- | @PUCC.BITNET         |
"It's not that I don't have the work to *do* -- I don't do the work I *have*."

In article <12436@ur-cc.UUCP> ma2cs240@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Gian Di Loreto) writes:
> >Is it on this Sat?  I hope so...

The local paper's TV Journal has a Movie in place of
Undercover and Twin Peaks.  They didn't specify the 
name of the Movie, so it looks like a quick patch job
after TP was hiaticized.  It looks a s if TP won't be
on, the other TV Guides were slow in correcting the
schedule.  But, just in case....

-Matt

In <1991Feb25.183452.10389@watserv1.waterloo.edu> alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes:

> >In article <1991Feb24.201609.10333@macc.wisc.edu> keir@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Rick Keir, MACC) writes:
>> >>
>> >>Oh, how I long for a newsreader capable of killing articles by
>> >>author, so that never again will I have to run into the crazed
> > 
> >Somebody please help this man!  I know that it is
> >possible to kill files by author and I reply on that to separate me
>from my detractors.

Alas, this man is, I am afraid, beyond help.

According to his reply line, he suffers from the worst kind of computer
handicap.

He uses VMS.

:-)
--
        ... Michael Ho, University of Nebraska
Internet: ho@hoss.unl.edu  |  SAVE THE LOG.  SAVE THE COFFEE.  SAVE THE PIE.
Disclaimer:  Views expressed within are purely personal and should not be
     applied to the Daily Nebraskan or any university department.

In <1991Feb25.190418.7066@yenta.alb.nm.us> synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:

> >A friend of mine recently talked with Harley Peyton, and he said the
> >show will be moved to Thursday nights at 10 PM Eastern. 

If this report is to believed...

AAAAAHHHHH!  I have to buy another VCR!  (I'm never home during that time
slot, so I tape a show "on another network," as Carson says.)
--
        ... Michael Ho, University of Nebraska
Internet: ho@hoss.unl.edu  |  SAVE THE LOG.  SAVE THE COFFEE.  SAVE THE PIE.
Disclaimer:  Views expressed within are purely personal and should not be
     applied to the Daily Nebraskan or any university department.

In article <RWC.91Feb26131225@fantasia.mitre.org> rwc@mitre.org (Ronald Conti) writes:
> >To save Twin Peaks, write:
> >
> >Rober Iger
> >ABC-TV
> >77 West 66th Street
> >New York, New York 10023
> >
> >Make sure to put "RE: Twin Peaks" on the envelope.

I disagree with that last bit.  Why encourage them to toss your letter
into a bin, unopened except possibly by some bored temp they hired to
handle the extra mail.

Instead, you should summon every ounce of secretarial panache you
possess!  Create the most impressively professional-looking business
letter possible, with NO externally visible hint of its contents.  Use
high grade paper and a nice typewriter or laser printer -- no dot matrix
junk.  Sign the letter, in blue ink.  Crack that Secretary's Handbook
for the appropriate layout and style.  Remind yourself that the goal is
to reach Iger's desk.  You probably won't make it all the way, but how
close can you come?  His executive assistant?  A professional letter is
your best chance.

In article <1991Feb22.160050.19230@watserv1.waterloo.edu> alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes:

> >Twin Peaks is now featuring a showdown between good and evil involving
> >the military (Major Briggs) and mirrored in a war game, chess, which is
> >a game that reflects military and political tactics.
> > 
> >Sooner or later people will draw parallels between the tv show that
> >prompts so much discussion and the events in the gulf.
> > 
> > (Edited here)
> > 
> >Is it possible that the abrupt elimination of this show, featuring this
> >particular moral philosophy at this particular time could be political?
> >Could the american network have received orders to pull the show until the
> >Gulf war is over? 

"I am gross and perverted
I'm obssessed and deranged
I have existed for years,
but very little has changed.
I am the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
and regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With all the stuff that I say
I am the best youu can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin out
From your TV set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help!..no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

THATS RIGHT FOLKS...
DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL!!

"I'm the Slime"   Frank Zappa

Actually, I think the real victim of any government abuse is probably China
Beach...I doubt if your typical USDA choice couch potato is capable of under-
standing any symbolism more profound than a raised toilet lid.  However,
they might have been able to see that a war time field hospital (blood,
body bags, etc.) doesn't look much like the "Nintendo War" they want us
to see on CNN.

jimbo

 James - I've been gone for days and my room mate is STILL going strong.

 Leo - I've got a headache THIS BIG!

 Albert - when you absolutely have to have it overnight.

 Shelly to Norma - "Do you ever feel not so fresh."

ho@hoss.unl.edu (Tiny Bubbles...) writes:

> >In <1991Feb25.190418.7066@yenta.alb.nm.us> synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:
>> >>A friend of mine recently talked with Harley Peyton, and he said the
>> >>show will be moved to Thursday nights at 10 PM Eastern. 

> >If this report is to believed...

Well, she's currently researching TWIN PEAKS for her undergraduate thesis
at Princeton, and is currently in telelphone contact with Peyton through
Lynch/Frost Productions, with plans to fly out for an interview with him.
E-mail me if you want to talk to her directly ...

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"EVIL, PURE AND SIMPLE, FROM THE EIGHTH DIMENSION!"

A horrible thought just occured to me.  Suppose ABC brings
Twin Peaks back on the night Lynch/Frost want, Wednesday.
Guess what, Wednesday is also the night that NBC is putting
Quantum Leap in, starting next week.  What if Twin Peaks and
Quantum Leap are put up against each other?  Both shows have
approx. the same demographics, and have a lot of fans in
common.  People who want to see both shows will probably
watch QL live and tape Peaks, since so many tape it already.
So Peaks will end up with lousy ratings yet again!  This
would almost certainly kill Peaks for good.

Or worse, I guess, viewers will be split between the 2
shows, lowering the ratings of both.  Then they would both
get cancelled!


I wonder if Lynch/Frost thought of this when they chose
Wednesday?  This could be disastrous to fans of either/both
shows.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Kenneth Bays                | "Everyone looks naked when you
un040377@wvnvms.wvnet.edu   |  know the world's address." - TMBG
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In article <1991Feb26.171020.29321@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> afmartp@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov writes:
> >I just got a copy of the TP soundtrack CD.  It's pretty good.  One of the 
> >highlights is the liner notes.  There is a picture of all the actors while 
> >in character with both names listed for reference.  But one thing puzzles 
> >me,  the MFAP is in there, as is the OAM, but not BOB, the Giant, or SRDC.  
> >I wonder why?

The soundtrack was released quite a while ago -- specifically, before
Laura's killer was revealed.  I don't think they wanted to give away upcoming
surprises in the liner notes.

Ok folks - correct me if I am wrong, but didn`t James (the man you all
seem to love to hate) play the monster in Eraserhead?!!!


Paul R. Grove.
Dept. of International Relations, University of Keele, UK.

iru03@uk.ac.keele.seq1

"Do you think they`ve spotted us"?

"Give me a doughnut".

I just got a copy of the TP soundtrack CD.  It's pretty good.  One of the 
highlights is the liner notes.  There is a picture of all the actors while 
in character with both names listed for reference.  But one thing puzzles 
me,  the MFAP is in there, as is the OAM, but not BOB, the Giant, or SRDC.  
I wonder why?

Did anyone else have a sense of deja vu during
the previews for the 2/16 show when the clip of
Ben making his speech about Pine Weasels came
up?

So far, the count stands at 2.

Please E-Mail me or post if you noticed *anything*
unusual about this scene.

-Matt Brockman russelrd@sage.cc.purdue.edu

My article called "Appreciating Alt.tv.twin-peaks" was
accepted for publication in the next issue of the _Twin_
_Peaks_Gazette_ (yey! now we're going to finally get some
publicity for this newsgroup!).  Thanks again to all who
helped in inspiring me.

--Fiona O.

(NOTE: e-mail to fi@grebyn.com, not address in header)

synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:

> >A friend of mine recently talked with Harley Peyton, and he said the
> >show will be moved to Thursday nights at 10 PM Eastern.  As to *when*
> >it's coming back, I don't know.  But watch your Thursday night slot
> >like an owl-- uh, hawk!

Great.  Another brilliant scheduling decision by ABC.  I can just see it in
their boardroom now...
"Hmm...Twin Peaks ratings have been slacking for a while, but there are
a lot of fans out there who really enjoy the show.  I've got it! Let's
move it onto NBC-dominated Thursday nights, opposite LA Law, another show
that lots of Peaks fans watch!!"

"Brilliant!!"

Sheesh.







-- Sanjiv Sarwate "But what is truth? sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.eduIs truth unchanging law? BITNET: SANJIV@UIUCVMD.BITNETWe both have truths. Are mine the same as yours?"

How many episodes are there totally (including the 6 remaining)?
Here in Norway we've just seen episode 16 (1st after the Maddy-murder), and I would just like to know how many we have left...

What does 2008 mean? Episode 8 in season 2?


Vidar

/ hpopd:alt.tv.twin-peaks / jeff@sqa.dsg.ti.com (jeff abbott (TB02)) /  6:06 pm  Feb 25, 1991 /

> > And TP has not been pulled from the airwaves
> > of our allies, such as Britain and Australia and Canada.

No, but I'm pretty sure that LeBOBland's dialog(ue) was over-dubbed as we
heard him say, "Co-lin says - you're going back - to Baghdad, KUWAIT." (sic)

Richard.

A while ago some one posted the idea of TP characters plugging
products on the show (i.e. Cooper for Sony tapes) and, more
recently, having them say slogans (i.e. Leo: "I have a headache THIS BIG!").

If anyone has anymore or a list of the original postings, please
send them to me as I am compiling a compilation and collecting
a collection and gathering a gathering of 'em.

Thanks!

-Matt

"All we are saying, is give ^Peaks^ a chance." --another poster whose
 name has been lost

From article <4533@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, by paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Paul T Russell):

> A friend of mine is visiting Seattle in a few weeks and
> he would like to visit the place that Twin Peaks is filmed
> in.

Thanks to the many people who sent comprehensive replies to
my questions about the locations used in the filming of TP.
We now have enough information to plan a thorough pilgrimage
to the Snoqualmie area. If anyone would like a copy of the
replies received please feel free to mail me. I will be
posting a summary to the UK Twin Peaks mailing list
shortly.

//Paul

-- 
Paul Russell, Department of Experimental Psychology
University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton BN1 9QG, England
Janet: paulr@uk.ac.sussex.syma Nsfnet: paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk
Bitnet: paulr%sussex.syma@ukacrl.bitnet Usenet: ...ukc!syma!paulr

In article <9144.9102260921@uk.ac.keele.seq1> iru03@seq1.keele.ac.uk (P.R. Grove) writes:

> >Ok folks - correct me if I am wrong, but didn`t James (the man you all
> >seem to love to hate) play the monster in Eraserhead?!!!

"The monster"?  What monster?  (The baby?)  James (well, you know, the
actor) would have been about five years old when Eraserhead was
filmed, nicht wahr?

> >"Give me a doughnut".

The British reading of TP, I love it.  That's "gimme."  :)

-- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "Life has a throat" --Peter Blegvad

Ian Buchanan played Duke Lavery on "General Hospital" before
Duke was "killed," presumed dead, then brought back after
undergoing major plastic surgery (the soap way to bring
back a character played by another actor) only to be killed
again (he has remained dead thus far).

In article <1991Feb25.190418.7066@yenta.alb.nm.us> synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:
> >A friend of mine recently talked with Harley Peyton, and he said the
> >show will be moved to Thursday nights at 10 PM Eastern.  As to *when*
> >it's coming back, I don't know.  But watch your Thursday night slot
> >like an owl-- uh, hawk!
> >

God no.  I want Twin Peaks back but not that way, not up against my other
favourite show, LA Law. My vcr does not record one channel while I watch
another so I would be forced to chose. That would also be death
to TP, pitting it against another show that is popular with the same viewers.
 
a.h.

For anyone interested in _The_Silence_of_the_Lambs_ and such plots, I
suggest that _The_Sign_of_the_Red_Dragon_ also be read...it is sort
of a "part 1" of TSoTL, I believe.  The movie which goes with TSoTRD
by T. Harris is called _Manhunter_.

My apologies for posting something not about TP to this newsgroup...
/=============================================================================\
|Jennifer Quirin                          student, Carnegie Mellon University |
|quirin@{cs,ece,andrew}.cmu.edu           <= internet                         |
|known_world!harvard!andrew.cmu.edu!jq07  <= uucp                             |
|=============================================================================|
|Opinions expressed herein are not CMU's, and are probably not even mine,     |
|since I am not really posting: I am hard at work as I am supposed to be.     |
\=============================================================================/

[26feb91] Here are three lists: 

  - (S) the addresses of ABC, the Twin Peaks production company, and others
    to whom you can write in an effort to save TP from cancellation

  - (L) the names and net addresses of those who maintain and publish to
    alt.tv.twin-peaks various compilations and lists of TP factoids,
    useful to the truly obsessed

  - (R) a guide to other TP goodies, available outside this newsgroup, the
    existence of which has been posted here

Changes and new listings are marked by #. Please send me any corrections
or additions.

#There is now an anonymous FTP site for much of the material in list (L), 
#and some of the material in list (R), thanks to Peter Asenstorfer 
#(peter@sal.sait.edu.au) at the University of Sourh Australia. The site is:

#  sal.sait.edu.au [130.220.16.98]   directory  /pub/twin-peaks 

#Items currently in this archive are marked below by "ftp" in the margin.

-->Keith
dawson@epps.kodak.com
My convictions are not for public display.

==================
Save TP Resources
==================

The following addresses, phone numbers, and other resources will prove useful
to those who want to write letters or otherwise express their opinions on
the "hiatus" / impending cancellation of TP.

NOTE: I have no opinion on whether a calm, rational letter works better than
an angry, threatening letter. I have no opinion on whether or not you should
#write to the Fox Network, Lifetime, HBO, or the Marmot Channel. Some say you
#should stress your demographics and/or consumer preferences, or write to 
#sponsors. Let everyone follow his/her own conscience.

#Lynch and Frost support (indeed, request) a letter-writing campaign. They ask
#that you suggest a weeknight slot, perhaps Wednesday, instead of Saturday.
#Write to Robert Iger (see S1); a fax number is provided.

#See item S7 below, the COOP campaign headquarters, for access to letterhead
#and so forth.

S1. Address of ABC President in charge of TP --
    Robert Iger - Entertainment President
    2040 Avenue of the Stars
    Century City, CA 90067
#    Fax: 213-557-7160

S2. Address of TP production company --
    "Twin Peaks," Lynch-Frost Productions
    World Vision, 7700 Balboa Blvd., Van Nuys, CA 91406

S3. ABC Phone numbers for programming comments --
    New York      212-456-7477  (Network Programming)
#  212-887-3900
    Los Angeles   213-557-7777  (General Information)

S4. Address of Billboard Magazine save-TP effort --
    Billboard Magazine, 1515 Broadway, New York, NY 10036
    Attention: S. Ojakli, Promotion & Publicity Director
    (America Online userid: Egg99)
    ("My magazine group covers the entertainment industry so I can take care
     of person to person delivery without any screening process.")

#S5. Address of "the right person" in Fox Network --
#    Peter Chernin, President, Fox Entertainment Group
#    10201 W. Pico Blvd., Executive Bldg. 88 Suite 336
#    Los Angeles, CA. 90035
#    (213) 203-3377

#S6. Address of Nielsen television-rating service --
#    John C. Holt, Nielsen Television Research
#    P.O. Box 4510, Clearwater, FL  34618-4510
#    800-237-8611

#S7. COOP (Citizens Opposing the Offing of Peaks)
#    Keith Poston, COOP President
#    202-342-7247
#    The Great Northern, 4532 19th St. North, Arlington, Va. 22207
#    Michael Caputo, COOP Director
#    202-289-2834
#    ("Call/write Keith for starter kits for your local COOP chapter, &
#     for a long list of nationally based reporters in the entertain-
#     ment field. "Serious inquiries only," he says, since he's footing
#     the bill out of his own pocket.")

======================
Lists and Compilations
======================

The following lists are updated periodically and reposted to alt.tv.twin-peaks
by their owners.

L1. Annotated timeline for TP episodes broadcast to date --
ftp Edwin Nomura, enomura@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
    (120 K)

L2. TP cast to date --
ftp David Ernest Coufal, coufal@owl.caltech.edu 
    (10 K)

L3. Credits for each episode --
ftp David Ernest Coufal, coufal@owl.caltech.edu 
    ( > 82 K)

L4. Answers to frequently asked questions --
ftp Janet M. Swisher, swsh@ellis.uchicago.edu
    (10 K)

L5. Compilation of favorite quotes --
ftp Charles D. Kincaid, statman@oak.circa.ufl.edu 
ftp (Final Rob Jellinghaus <robertj@Autodesk.com> edition published 2/14/91.)
    (37 K)

L6. Cribsheet to TP resources --
ftp Keith Dawson, dawson@epps.kodak.com
    (6.3 K)

L7. Symbols/motifs in the Twin Peaks Universe --
ftp Jeffrey Koga, 6600koga@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
    (2.4 K)

#L8. Oeuvres of TP contributors
#    David Ernest Coufal, coufal@owl.caltech.edu 
#     writers          (5 K)
#     directors        (5 K)
#     actors/actresses (15 K)
#    (all movies/books each artist has been associated with)

==================
Other TP Resources
==================

The following goodies were either announced at least once on alt.tv.twin-peaks
by the given poster, or sent to me for inclusion in this list.

R1. FTP site for GIF (picture) files and sounds in Hypercard stack --
ftp (from 11/10, 11/17 episodes)
    freebie.engin.umich.edu (141.212.68.23); directory: /pub/twin-peaks 
    Posted by John Derek Demaree, demaree@caen.engin.umich.edu 

R2. Catalog of TP goodies (books, tee shirts, cassettes, etc.) --
    Twin Peaks Press, Box 129, Vancouver, WA  98666; (800) 637-2256
    (send $1.00)
    Posted by Kay Stanley, kstanley@rhumba.acs.unc.edu

R3. Mac disk filled with TP sounds --
    Doug Dulmage, ddulmage@cdp.uucp 
    (contact by email; send a blank disk)

R4. Postcard from Twin Peaks (actually Snoquamalie) --
    Laurie Kleiner, 815 35th Avenue, Seattle, WA  98122-5205
    (send a postcard of your hometown)

R5. ~10 MB of MacRecorder TP sounds (through #2013, 1/19) --
    <anonymous>, bwdavies@rodan.acs.syr.edu
    (contact by email; send lots of blank disks and return postage)

R6. Twin Peaks Gazette --
    P.O. Box 1804, Pacific Palisades, CA 90272
    800-626-TWIN

R7. Full text of Jan. 26 hoax threads
    Edward Vielmetti, emv@msen.com (emv@ox.com)
    (send email request)

R8. Transcript of second-season TP press kit --
ftp Dave Coufal, coufal@owl.caltech.edu

#R9. Article "Appreciating alt.tv.twin-peaks"
#    Fiona Oceanstar, fi@grebyn.com
#    (10 K)
#    (accepted for publication in "Twin Peaks Gazette")

iru03@seq1.keele.ac.uk (P.R. Grove) writes:

> >Ok folks - correct me if I am wrong, but didn`t James (the man you all
> >seem to love to hate) play the monster in Eraserhead?!!!

Not unless James Marshall was a REALLY BIG kid for his age.  Eraserhead
was made back in 1976, over 14 years ago.

--
bvickers@ics.uci.edu|"One who would guide a leader of men in the uses of life
brett@ucippro.bitnet| Will warn him against the use of arms for conquest.
                    | Even the finest arms are an instrument of evil:
                    | An army's harvest is a waste of thorns." - _Tao Te Ching_

alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes:

> >In article <1991Feb25.190418.7066@yenta.alb.nm.us> synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:
>> >>A friend of mine recently talked with Harley Peyton, and he said the
>> >>show will be moved to Thursday nights at 10 PM Eastern.  As to *when*
>> >>it's coming back, I don't know.  But watch your Thursday night slot
>> >>like an owl-- uh, hawk!
>> >>

> >God no.  I want Twin Peaks back but not that way, not up against my other
> >favourite show, LA Law. My vcr does not record one channel while I watch
> >another so I would be forced to chose. That would also be death
> >to TP, pitting it against another show that is popular with the same viewers.
> > 
> >a.h.

There is not a VCR made that doesn't let you watch one show while you record another.  

If you normally select channels through a box from the cable company and BOTH shows are scrambled (pay), then you can't.  Otherwise you can.  If you select with the CATV's box then you might have it hooked up so that you can't, but it's not your VCR's fault.

Just ask the guy at the Radio Shack (although he may try to sell you some solder).

- Alan

--
asnyder@ernie.artorg.hmc.psu.edu

]From 3cpu!percy!reed!littlei!intelhf!ichips!inews!olivea!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!princeton!tan!bskendig Tue Feb 26 10:00:23 PST 1991
]
]I agree -- Truman is not what he seems.  I mean, look at the name:
]Truman.  True man!  (The `Harry S.' business was just a red herring,
]to mislead us.)  He is faced with a stark contrast between good and
]evil; he's the sheriff (`leader of the forces of good'), but he is
]really mixed up with Josie, whose life is about as twisted as they
]come (perhaps second only to Catherine's... but maybe not?).
]
Actually, I think it is far more likely that the character is named after
the man who owned the lodge on Mt. St. Helens.  A little over ten years
ago (May 18, 1980) the top blew off, and spirit lake(Hmm, spirit lake.)  
and the lodge were destroyed along with Mr. Truman.  Agent Cooper is probably 
named after the famous Airline hijacker D.B.  Cooper.  There may be other
examples of characters named after Pacific Northwest figures, but I can't
think of any off hand.
 
 Note, I believe the above is right, but it has been ten years, and I may
 have mistaken names and places.  Would somebody with a better memory then
 mine care to confirm or deny my version?  

]
]     << Brian >>
]
]| Brian S. Kendig      \ Macintosh |   Engineering,   | bskendig             |
]| Computer Engineering |\ Thought  |  USS Enterprise  | @phoenix.Princeton.EDU
]| Princeton University |_\ Police  | -= NCC-1701-D =- | @PUCC.BITNET         |
]"It's not that I don't have the work to *do* -- I don't do the work I *have*."

Hello,
 
The following is an article from the AP wire in which David Lynch asks
fans to write ABC Entertainment "and demand the soap opera return in a
week-night time slot."
 
The person to write is:
 
Bob Iger, President
ABC Entertainment
2040 Avenue of the Stars
Los Angeles, CA  90067
 
You might also wish to call him at 213/557-7777
or fax him at 213/557-7160.

marcos

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
 
 
                     'TWIN PEAKS' ASKS FANS' HELP
 
     CALLING all "Twin Peaks" fans.  ABC's bizarre, nighttime soap opera
is in trouble, and its creators are looking for help.
 
     David Lynch and Mark Frost are asking fans to write letters
protesting the network's decision to place the serires on hiatus.
 
     "We feel there are people out there that really love 'Twin Peaks,'"
Lynch told reporters Friday.  "We're in trouble, and we need their
help."
 
     A week earlier, the network announced the series would be pulled
following Saturday's episode.  The season's remaining six shows will be
broadcast at later, undisclosed dates.
 
     Global Television, the Canadian licensee of "Twin Peaks," reported
receiving more than 700 calls after the announcement.  An ABC
spokeswoman declined to disclose the number of calls received, but said
the figure was "roughly comparable."
 
     Lynch and Frost beseeched fans to write ABC Entertainment President
Bob Iger (2040 Avenue of the Stars, Los Angeles, 90067) and demand the
soap opera return in a week-night time slot.
 
     In September, the much-ballyhooed series about a fictional
Northwest lumber town as moved from Thursdays to Saturdays to reclaim
the weekend from the ever-encroaching cable and video rental markets.
 
     The strategy failed.  Despite a loyal cluster of fans, "Twin Peaks"
plummeted to the bottom of the A.C.  Nielsen Co.  ratings.
 
     Lynch said the show's Saturday time slot presented a dilemma for
most "Peaks Freaks," who are not home to watch it.
 
     "Partying is very important to a great (many) people," he said.
 
     Since its debut, "Twin Peaks" has been praised by critics but
ignored by viewers.  Its rating consistently declined even before ABC
moved its time period.
 

-- Marcos H. Woehrmann {claris|apple}!netcom!marcos | marcos@netcom.COM Oh, I'm sure you've heard it all before, but remember it's not what you say, it's how you say it, and how much you're paid to do so, and besides who's listening anyway. No one, that's who, because it's all been said and done and done and done and done to death. Let's talk about art, said the fool to the idiot. --Lydia Lunch

In article <1991Feb24.182828.18202@athena.mit.edu> genoa@athena.mit.edu (Jack N Holt) writes:
> >In article <13155@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> sac@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Sheila Como) writes:
>> >>In article <10340007@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood) writes:
>> >>
>>> >>>---------------------
>>> >>>Next week:  Star Trek downlink is a rerun
>>> >>>            The Empire Strikes Back replaces Dark Shadows
>>> >>>            No Twin Peaks
>>> >>>     <<<<< ------- ARRGGGHHH!!! ------- >>>>>
>>> >>>
>> >>Just curious, how many of you folks out there are regular viewers of
>> >>these three shows.
>> >>
> >These three shows (and war coverage, nowadays) are virtually all I
> >watch.  It's just doesn't seem worthwhile to wade through all the drivel
> >to find the few other shows that are worth watching -- especially when
> >networks start shuffling schedules.

Well, the ONLY shows I watch regularly are:

Twin Peaks (maybe not anymore, at least not until after the "hiatus")
The Simpsons
60 Minutes
Star Trek: The Next Generation
The Black Adder (BBC historical comedy broadcast on PBS station KTEH)
Red Dwarf (BBC science fiction comedy broadcast on PBS station KTEH)

I'll also watch Fawlty Towers, Monty Python's Flying Circus, Comedy Tonight
(local comedy program broadcast on PBS station KQED) when convenient.  I'll
occasionally watch other things, but not often since I don't watch much TV
compared to the "average American".

The reason I'm bringing this up is I want to know:

Why doesn't TV Guide (and the local Programming Guides in the local
papers) have an alphabetical cross-index of programs?

Especially with the number of VCRs in the country today, an alphabetical
cross-index would be a Godsend!  Instead of hunting through the entire guide
looking for the programs I like (and probably missing most of them), I could
just look in the 'M's for "Monty Python", see which channels and times it is
broadcast, and then arrange to watch (or have my VCR watch) the program.

In the current state of affairs, when a show is moved from one night to
another, or postponed for a week or so, I have to peruse the entire guide to
try to figure out what happened to it (since they almost never mention in the
guides when a program is pre-empted or moved).  Most of the broadcast networks
seem to assume that all us dweebs watch the tube constantly (including
commercials) so we'll always notice their announcements about "on a new
night", etc.  Well, *I* *DON'T* notice these, since some networks I only
watch for ONE PROGRAM (and some I don't watch at all).

I'm planning on writing to TV GUIDE to request the alphabetical cross-index
(they already do it for movies -- why not all other programs?), and suggest
that anyone else who agrees with me do the same.  I presume that they keep
the data in a computer, so it shouldn't be too hard to do.  I'd be willing
to pay EXTRA to get it.

On the other side of the coin, does anyone know of any weekly program guide
that does exactly this (lists an alphabetical program cross-index for all
programs)?  If so, could you email me the info on subscriptions?

Thanks,

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!{hpda,versatc,apollo,ucbcad,uunet}!cadence!phz)

I know people have said that TP is definately saved... but let's not
become too zealous!

Keep writting to ABC to save TP!!!!!

To save Twin Peaks, write:

Rober Iger
ABC-TV
77 West 66th Street
New York, New York 10023

Make sure to put "RE: Twin Peaks" on the envelope.


-rwc

In article <1991Feb24.174447.29867@engin.umich.edu> rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
> >In article <166@3cpu.UUCP> edrury@.UUCP (Ed Drury) writes:
> > 
>> >>It does seem that there is a serious evil in the oak desks of ABC's 
>> >>programming department. They must have people who really work covertly 
>> >>for NBC and CBS in high places. 
> >
> >Well, this certainly sheds new light on those little memo pads that 
> >say "From the Desk of", anyway.  I always wondered about that. 
> >--
> > Rod Johnson  *  rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu  *  (313) 650 2315 


And who among us has not been advised at some time to "Talk to 
the front desk"?


--Barbara 


--
Barbara HlavinWe have to believe in Free Will, 
twain@blake.acs.washington.eduwe've got no choice. 
-Isaac Bashevis Singer

In article <6623@idunno.Princeton.EDU> bskendig@bird.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) writes:
> >In article <59940045@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> richardh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Hancock) writes:
>> >>
>> >>Wasn't the "S." in "Harry S. Truman" a phantom initial? Or did it stand for
>> >>the name of a Communist (or am I thinking of some other American?)
> >
> >Yes, partly.  President Harry S Truman's middle name really was
> >nothing more than the letter S -- I remember once readong someting
> >about him not liking his middle name, or being disgusted by the idea
> >of middle names, or something, and dropping all but the first letter.
> >Or maybe he was named that from the start -- I don't know.
> >

[Stuff about OUR Harry S. Truman deleted]

posting for a friend....

--------------------------------include mesg----------------------------------

For you Twin Peaks fans, there is a contact for addressing your
concerns regarding the temporary (we hope) hiatus:
Bob Iger
ABC Production Center
2040 Avenue of the Stars
Century City, Ca  90067
Please let him know how you feel.

Thanks!!!!
-- /------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Rick Ryder r_ryder@emulex.com | | There you go man. Face piles of trials with smiles. It riles them to believe | | that you perceive the web they weave. Keep on thinking free..... Moody Blues | \------------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ---------------------------------end of mesg----------------------------------

most of us DON'T. Also, it's damn hard to find a TV in the dorms here
that isn't tuned to LA  LAW come Thursday night. I guess I could tape
Twin Peaks; but it would be a pain. Does anyone know if Thursday 10PM is
the definite future time slot?
From: jacobw@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob S Weinstein)
Path: phoenix!jacobw

(Hmmmm... This is the second post I've created complaining about
the lack of VCRs in college life. Sorry to sound like a broken
record...)

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*Jacob Weinstein             *
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