Season 1, Episode 07: The Last Evening — May 23–September 29, 1990

Ok, here's something strange I saw on the TP pilot.  I know it's been a while
since it was aired, but, hey, I just discovered this newsgroup.  My apologies
if this has been said before.

The scene was the one where Coop was showing the videotape of Laura to the
sheriff et al., pointing out the reflection of the motorcycle in her eye.  Now,
my VCR doesn't have too good resolution at the 6 hr/tape speed, so I thought
I'd go through that sequence frame by frame to try to see the 'cycle.

At first, everything was normal.  Laura's eye ... Laura's bigger ... Laura's
eye bigger still ... then *poof* the picture changes.  Instead of Laura's eye,
the frame shows a landscape -- a glade or hilltop or something, surrounded by
trees, with the sun shining brightly down.  (Remember, the resolution wasn't
so good.)  Next frame, *poof* Laura's eye is back.  When I replayed the
sequence again at normal speed, I saw a slight flicker in the sequence, but
nothing you'd notice if you weren't looking for it.

Now, I realize that this is probably just a frame-editing glitch and signifies
absolutely nothing.  After all, using subliminals is illegal, no?  But it's
fun to speculate that maybe it was put there on purpose. I don't think that
Lynch is slipping subliminal murder clues into the picture, but perhaps he's
using them to somehow enhance the mood -- TP *is* a pretty spooky show.  (So
how does a photo of a bright sunny day enhance a spooky mood?  I haven't the
foggiest).

Anyway, I thought I'd throw that out for general discussion/tearing apart/
trampling.


-=-

   Doug Taylor                         |   Nothing real can be threatened.
   The Ohio State University           |   Nothing unreal exists.
   doug_taylor@osu.edu                 |            - A Course in Miracles

In article <35566@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> riacmt@ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu writes:

> >Quite a bit of difference there.  And given that autism is marked
> >by an inability to respond emotionally....  Well I leave the
> >rest of any inference to you.

Hmm... I was also under the impression that he is autistic, but he does
seem to exhibit emotions. Specifically, immediately before Laura's funeral
he seemed to be rather upset (when Jacoby was talking to him). He was also
disturb by Laura's not being able to tutor him anymore. So perhaps he's not
autistic, or Lynch and Co. are taking some creative license. Whatever.

--Brady

A doctor friend of mine in Seattle said he ran into the actress who plays
Laura at a hospital, apparently she was visiting a friend in the hospital.
He said she was very nice in a down to earth sort of way, talked with him
for a while, and even posed with him for a picture. When I asked him about
her hair color, he described her as a "dirty" blonde. 

A magazine (Sept or Aug Esquire, I think....) picked Laura as the woman of 
the year, and in those pictures she also appears to be a blonde (at least
not a dark brunette like Madelyne).

Of course, this still doesn't prove anything....

Dave.

In article <999@beguine.UUCP> George.Harris@samba.acs.unc.edu (BBS Account) writes:
> >[edited]
> >"The gum you like is coming back in style soon."--"Black Jack"
> >
> >"I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV"Ge|ge

My guess is Double-Mint, what with all the twinning references on TP.


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In article <84974@aerospace.AERO.ORG> huebner@aerospace.aero.org (Robert E. Huebner) writes:
> >
> >I haven't seen this mentioned before so...
> >
> >I was in Crown Books (Westwood) the other day and saw a "Twin Peaks"
> >book next to the register.  It was Laura's diary.  I was wondering
> >if anyone has read this and if it sheds a little light on things, or if
> >its just background information.  The cover price of $8.95 for a 
> >fairly thin, softcover book seemed a  little steep.   I'm not even sure
> >who wrote it (ie: Lynch or some flunkie).   It did have some pages that
> >said "(Page Torn Out [as found])", but flipping through briefly I could
> >not find the phrase "Day 1".
> >
> >huebner@aerospace.aero.org



The book "The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer" was written by Jennifer Lynch, 
David's daughter.  There was a ...ummmm... review by Deborah Hastings that 
appeared in the television section of my local paper (Seattle P.I.) this 
morning.  I quote:

"And while the TV series alluded to Laura's darker side, permeated by 
sex, violence and drugs, there is nothing equivocal in her diary:  if
it were made into a movie, "The Secret Life of Laura Palmer" would 
carry an X rating."

I find this exploitation objectionable.  What if I were to write "The 
Secret Diary of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark" in which I purport to 
explain exactly why I'm upset with my mother?

The show should speak for itself.  I don't think anyone should have to 
spend X dollars to explore extra-screen dimensions of the character's 
character -- this should be SHOWN, and it should be available to everyone
who watches the show faithfully.

The play's the thing!

--Barbara

--
Barbara HlavinPeople say that life is the thing,
twain@blake.acs.washington.edubut I prefer reading.
U. Washington AI-10/Seattle 98195           --Logan Pearsall Smith

Message from Pete Zakel:

(NOTE: feel free to post this to alt.tv.twin-peaks if you are so inclined,
I can't because I use a mailer that can't post to groups with hyphens in
them.  -phz)

> >Whose blood is on Leo's jacket?

*WARNING* SPOILER *WARNING* SPOILER
^L







*WARNING* second SPOILER WARNING
^L




The blood is Jacques'.  Leo stuck him with a broken bottle (if I'm
remembering correctly) in the cabin when they were there with Laura
and Ronette.  Jacques mentions this in his conversation with Dale at
OEJ in the last first season episode.  It is mentioned earlier that
the blood matches Jacques' blood type and not Laura's.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!{hpda,versatc,apollo,ucbcad,uunet}!cadence!phz)
-- Ron Chrisley chrisley@csli.stanford.edu Xerox PARC SSL New College Palo Alto, CA 94304 Oxford OX1 3BN, UK (415) 494-4728 (865) 793-484

The TP soundtrack album is now (9/11) available.  I also noticed that the 
videotape of Lynch/Badlamenti's (sp?) "Industrial Symphony #1" with Julee 
Cruise was finally out.  Has anyone seen this?  I bought the soundtrack right 
away, but I have no idea what the video is like, so I'm waiting.  Anyone?

-- Larry Spence larry@csccat ...{uunet,texsun,cs.utexas.edu,decwrl}!csccat!larry

 >>Why? This retarded son of Ben was tutored by Laura. When
 >           ^^^^^^^^
 >Are you sure he's retarded?....

 No, I'm not sure he's retarded. In fact, my brother claims that
 maybe he's pretending to be retarded. Although he (johnny) might
 not be able to respond emotionally (if he's autistic), he might
 still be capable of completing an action that would kill good
 'ole Laura. If Johnny did not kill, then what is his significance??

------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Unrelated Sidenote: A used bookstore recently opened in my home town (pop.
 20,000) After going there, I told by brother that the woman who ran
 the store was kinda like the log lady. In the next several weeks, since we
 didn't know her name, we would say things like "are we going to see the
 log lady today?" Then one day, my brother was looking over the books in
 the small store and heard some music emitting from the woman's cassette
 player near her desk. Although it sounded familiar, the volume was very
 low and so my brother couldn't identify it. He then asked the log lady 
 what the music was. She replied that it was music from Twin Peaks. (fill
 in appropriate twilight zone music.) That is why I don't find TP people
 strange, my hometown is filled with such people......
-------------------------------------------------sorry for the long sidenote

-L.p.P>

*Sigh*

Yes, they *did* rock-and-bottle Josie.  They prfaced the throw with
the comment.

"Jocelyn Packard.  Laura tutored her in English."

or words to that effect.  The rock missed.

Irrelevant side note: could this become a new figure of speech?
"Let's take it out to the woods & rock-&-bottle it, & see what we come 
up with."  Hmmm... I'll store that in my file of possible clever conver-
sational gambits.  Or maybe not.

"I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV"Ge|ge

--

In article <1990Sep10.214941.1366@odin.corp.sgi.com> bam@sgi.com
(Brian McClendon) writes:
> >In article <1990Sep7.090525.21963@cs.columbia.edu> germaine@cs.columbia.edu 
(Germaine Leveque) writes:
>> >>In article <2049@nyx.UUCP> gstrand@nyx.UUCP (Warren Gerhard Strand Jr.) 
writes:
>>> >>> [lots of allusions to Sheryl Lee's hair color, and how it allegedly
     relates to her pubic hair color, deleted]
> >Well, as others have posted, Two Moon Junction removes all doubt (and
> >clothing).  Unless she does some creative dyeing, she is definitely
> >a brunette.
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >   Brian McClendon bam@rudedog.SGI.COM ...!uunet!sgi!rudedog!bam 415-335-1110
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Do you people really still believe pubic hair color has anything to do
with natural head-hair color?  SHEESH!



--
    Bryce Rumbles/brumbles@hal.unm.edu   

    If Citibank were a planet, it would be a black hole.

I rather enjoyed American Chronicles.  It was a pretty honest look at 
Mardi Gras as opposed to the romanticized version of the beautiful
people have a gay old time.  We saw real people living out their fantasy
which is what Mardi Gras is all about.  It may seem a little bleak but
the whole idea of Mardi Gras is a pretty bizarre  concept to begin with.

It's like much of Twin Peaks with an unglamorous view of people and things.
Reminds me of Diane Arbus photography in that it's not pretty in the usual
way but you become mesmerized by the grotesqueness and/or monotony of it all.
Twin Peaks does that extremely well.  If you look honestly at the characters
they are pretty ugly people.  Not the usual primetime hero/heroine.  

In response to the Choral Chanting question it was Carl Orff's Carmina      
Burana.  A rather exciting piece of music.  I believe there are drinking
songs from the 12-13th century but I could very well be wrong.

 if I'm not mistaken, the shadow that passes behind the curtains (or are they
 drapes?), in Cooper's dream, is a fish swimming by.

--

 as a former teacher-of-autistic-individuals, I must say that said individuals
 are capable of emotional outbursts, and quite violent ones, at that. one of
 the boys i taught was named Johnny, as well...

--

In article <35579@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> riacmt@ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
> >What about Josie?  Her name wasn't on the board.  In any case,

Yes, it was.

> >it is likely that Laura DID see Jacoby and Leo on the night
> >she died, even though neither killed her.  Could it be that

She certainly saw Leo (and it wasn't just to say hello), but
I doubt that she saw Jacoby (although Jacoby followed her to
the mill road before losing sight of Leo's Corvette).  And
how do we know Leo didn't really do it after all?  The only
reasoning I've heard so far is that Leo would be 'too
obvious'.  Leo's still the chief suspect, as far as I'm
concerned.

> >"Laura" found out that Josie had her husband killed and was
> >blackmailing her?  That might also explain how she got (was
> >going to get) the money for the cocaine deal with Leo.  

I thought that this was from Bobby and Mike.  See their conversation
in their cell.  The amount they discussed was equal to the amount
that Cooper & Truman found in her safety-deposit box.

> >Remember when Cooper and Truman go to see Josie to ask her some
> >questions?  She said that Laura said (something like):  "Now
> >I know what it must have felt like to lose your husband."

If Laura was blackmailing Josie about this, I doubt very much
whether Josie would say that to them.  What could she have to lose
by not telling?  And we know that she's perfectly willing to
keep secrets from Harry.

> >And remember the wounds on Laura's body?  Like little "pecks" or
> >holes.  Sometimes logs (from lumber mills) have little holes
> >like that made in them as they are "gripped" and sent down
> >the line to be made into boards.

Albert says that they're bird bites.  Waldo strikes again.  Albert
may be a jerk but he's an expert.  I believe him.

> >I say "Laura" (note the quotation marks) because I too believe
> >that Laura and Madelain swapped places.

I'm getting very skeptical of this theory.  If Madeleine was really Laura,
I think that her father, mother, best friend and secret lover would
be able to tell.

> >The theory above would also be consistent with the notion that
> >the Oriental fellow in the hotel is associated with Josie and
> >fired the shots at Cooper.  Perhaps Cooper was getting too close
> >to finding out things about Josie.  Maybe, too, the Oriental 

I don't think he's close at all.  Cooper is suspicious of her,
but is willing to trust Harry's positive opinion of her (see
Coop & Harry's conversation immediately before going to O.-E. J.'s)

> >fellow is an officer of the law like Cooper and has tracked
> >Josie to Twin Peaks.  It is possible that this last husband
> >was not the only one she bumped off before taking the fellow's
> >entire estate.

I believe that one.  He's a detective.  Josie's got a mysterious
past.

> >Trust me!  Josie may turn out to be the most rotten apple in the
> >bunch!!

We already know that she's no angel.  Confirmation will be forthcoming
in the next (final) episode.

I hope this posting doesn't sound like I'm picking on the person
who wrote the original one.  It just seemed that there was a lot
to respond to, and I had some time to kill.


 Bill Sherman sherman@math.ucla.edu
"Show that the median, hce che ech, interecting at royde angles the
parilegs of a given obtuse one biscuts both the arcs that are in
curveachord behind."    Joyce, _Finnegans Wake_

I find it unfortunate that Jacques was not rock/bottled.  He was mentioned (by
Big Ed to Dale and Harry) before the third episode, but no one seemed to pay
him any mind at that point.

OK -- See if you follow me on this one:
Laura had sex with (at least) 3 men on the night of her death.
The Log Lady says (in her ever so convoluted fashion) that her log heard 3 men
in the woods that night.  We know two of them are Leo and Jacques.  We also
know that Jacques passed out before Laura actually died, and didn't wake
up until morning.  So it seems likely that the "third man" helped Leo carry
Laura (& Ronette) to the boxcar...

Who is this third man?
Is he the figure in the woods when Leo meets Bobby and Mike?
Is he the heavy breather?
Is he the Oriental man?

Just wondering.

HLW

 ^
(_)

According to an interview with David Lynch in Movieline
Magazine, for his next film Lynch wants to direct Kafka's "The
Metamorphosis"--"it'll be wierd, the main character will be a
coachroach."  Lynch said he's wanted to do this film for years,
but couldn't find financing.  It will be interesting to compare
Lynch's effort with Steven Soderburg's "Kafka" which wrapped
shooting.  
Jeffrey St. Clair

"Did you read about the dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all
night wondering if there was a Dog?"

But it does make one think: what would a Lynch action film be like?

If I might put my 2 cts. in: 5 times out of 10 TADITW is pretty pointless
and much of Lynch's style is lost in the translation to comics.  Furthermore
the fact that it's the same damn art xeroxed every week is really cheap.

Gerson Koenig
SUNY at Buffalo

 is american chronicles a series-type thing, do you know if/when it
will be aired again?
-- john anderson (jra@tahoe.unr.edu)

In article <1049@beguine.UUCP> George.Harris@samba.acs.unc.edu (BBS Account) writes:
> >Irrelevant side note: could this become a new figure of speech?
> >"Let's take it out to the woods & rock-&-bottle it, & see what we come 
> >up with."  Hmmm... I'll store that in my file of possible clever conver-
> >sational gambits.  Or maybe not.

Even more irrelevant anecdote:  I once introduced a relatively obscure poker
variant to our group, muttering, "let's run it up the flagpole, see if anyone
salutes."  The game is now known as Flagpole.

Jeremy Billonesjbillone@jarthur.claremont.edu
"We bust through the door, surprise 'em, and blow their brains out."

In article <1990Sep11.222805.33151@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, hweibel@eagle writes:
> >Laura had sex with (at least) 3 men on the night of her death.
> >The Log Lady says (in her ever so convoluted fashion) that her log heard 3 men
> >in the woods that night.  We know two of them are Leo and Jacques.  We also
> >know that Jacques passed out before Laura actually died, and didn't wake
> >up until morning.  So it seems likely that the "third man" helped Leo carry
> >Laura (& Ronette) to the boxcar...
> >
> >Who is this third man?
Harry Lime, of course!

(More seriously, there's no reason to think that every man Laura had
sex with that night was involved in the murder.  She was with James
that evening, and it's plausible that he was one of the three.)
-- Matthew Austern austern@lbl.bitnet Proverbs for paranoids, 3: If (415) 644-2618 austern@ux5.lbl.gov they can get you asking the wrong austern@lbl.gov questions, they don't have to worry about answers.

 Since I expect to see a lot of reviews of the Soundtrack, I don't expect to 
really go over it.  But I will say two things: 

#1-If anyone out there reading this has an Apple IIgs, I plan to use 
SynthLAB and enter Track 2 of the Soundtrack for Parik Rao's BG.Sound... It 
will also be SoundSmith Compatible, as working with some of the best 
designers in the FTA have shown me...

and #2- in the CD Cover, a Character sheet is unveiled, listing people by 
number, Real Name, and the Character(s) they play. But I noticed two people 
missing. The Renault Brothers. Unless I'm blind.... Could someone else with 
the soundtrack check? if you find them, could you give me the numbers?

Thanx...

Be Seeing You.
                                -The Prisoner
 __________________________________________________

In article <Sep.10.00.52.08.1990.395@furs.rutgers.edu>, webster@furs.rutgers.edu (John Clayton Webster) writes...
< 
< 
<Laura on the night of her death?"  The bottle falls down for Dr.
<Jacoby. The bottle is shattered for Leo Johnson.  Leo didn't kill
<Laura. That would be too simple to believe.  The blood on his shirt
<wasn't Laura's as we were expected to believe.  This is too much
<suspicion on Leo for him to have actually committed the murder.  Since
<we are already dealing with this in the context of a tv mystery
<(stone-toss and all), this is good enough to scratch out Leo.
< 

Don't be too sure that Lynch and Frost aren't playing a joke on us here
and actually intend for Leo to be the killer all along. In real life
if you had plenty of evidence pointing to a suspect, would you automatically
dismiss that person as a suspect simply because it "would be too easy"?
This is no ordinary mystery where we are supposed to look for the least
likely suspect ala Perry Mason. This is *David Lynch*, man! It's my
opinion, probably soon to be shot down, that Leo is the killer. Why not?

--
John Howells
howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov 
howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov

For those interested, or those who don't already know this,
the English weekly NME (New Music Express) printed a great 
interview with David Lynch in their Sep. 1st issue.
The article had Rolling Stone copyright on it, 
so it might have been printed in Rolling Stone first.

I'll post some passages from the article later since it contains
interesting facts.  For example did you know that David Lynch
keeps a _u_t_e_r_u_s of a woman in a jar.  

Mohsen
AT&T Bell Labs
Naperville, IL

SPOILERS : If you haven't seen all the episodes this might ruin them.











Twin Peaks: The random mystery of who killed Laura Palmer
    (as the murderer's identity becomes less and less
     important...) 

Laura and the J-Crew:

Yes, Josie WAS on the board. 

Yes, Josie has some scams going on.  She is highly
manipulative.   She has a much deeper profile than we were led to
expect.  Josie might be using HST. She did have her husband killed.
Does she fit the profile for the serial killer?

Is Josie really just trying to stay in business at this point?
Is she simply taking out "insurance policies" against her adversaries?
(eg. - Photos, life insurance policy, fire...)

Believe it or not, Josie is the hub of Twin Peaks.  She was
"taking english lessons" from Laura. (Gee, Laura did a good job, eh?)
She is the Sheriff's "significant other".  (Hmmm.)  She owns the land
where the development for all those foreigners will take place.  And
she is dealing on that end of the game too.  She is also being milked
for more buckage by the wonderful parolee who just off'ed (?) Leo. 

I claim Leo didn't do it.  Leo is true sludge.  I wish his
wife had better aim, so we could have crossed his name out sooner.
Again, I claim, there is too much false direction toward Leo.  Of
course, now that I've said this it is fated for Leo to be guilty.
It would be nice, if the murderer was still around for the next season
tho.  Will Leo have the next funeral scene?  I concede that Leo could
be the serial killer tho.  BTW: How did Leo react when Bobby and Mike
said the other part of the coke money was with Laura?

Clay Webster
webster@police.rutgers.edu

In article <FVBeP2w163w@darkside.com> prisoner@darkside.com (The Prisoner) 
writes:
> > and #2- in the CD Cover, a Character sheet is unveiled, listing people
> > by number, Real Name, and the Character(s) they play.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to the numbering of each character?  Why 
that order?

timo
    --

Here is an amusing anecdote:

I was in Japan from december '89 until May '90.  The only information I could
get from America in English was from a short, weekly New York Times summary,
and the international version of "Newsweek" magazine.  I particularly enjoy
political cartoons, so during my weekly perusal of the cartoons in "Newsweek" I
came across one that showed Gorbachov putting the pressure on some spies to
find out who killed Laura Palmer.  For weeks I wondered who L.P. was, and why I
hadn't seen anything about her death in the Newspaper!

The third man could be Dr. Jacoby.   We know she flirted with him (at
least before that night).  They did have a some sort of relationship.

Clay Webster
webster@furs.rutgers.edu

Is there a serial killer?  Is it a ruse?

Who could be the serial killer/killer of Laura?

Clay Webster
webster@furs.rutgers.edu

Okay, this has been on my mind at least peripherally
since the last episode forst aired (don't worry no non-trivial
spoilers), & I was reminded l;ast Saturday by the second half.

What are all the Icelandic dirnking songs?  I *think* 
that the last one they sing in the final first season episode
is "Row, row, row your boat," and I'm certain that two of them
last Saturday were "Home on the Range" (at the reception before
Catherine & Pete Martell arrive), and "A Hundred Bottles of Beer
on the Wall" (in Ben's office when he's eating ice cream).  Does 
anyone recognize any of the others?  Has anyone else even recog-
nized those?  I await your replies/followups with bated breath
(but that's another thread on a different group).

Geez.  Foorst.  Dirnking.  L;ast.  My fingers just aren't fol-
lowing orders today.

"I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV"Ge|ge

--

I *know* it's been asked before, but I didn't know I'd be helping
organize a Season Premier Costume Party for _Twin Peaks_ this 
month.  

When's the Season Premier?  I was told it would be Sunday the 30th,
which is a real sucky night for a party, but I thought it was the 29th.
Anybody know the scoop?


--
    Bryce Rumbles/brumbles@hal.unm.edu   

    If Citibank were a planet, it would be a black hole.

In article <2818@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> bjl@ESD.3Com.COM (Bobbie J. Lawson) writes:
> >
> >The piece that struck me during American Chronicles was Orlff "Carmina
> >Buranga " (spelling on the last word is incorrect).  It was also used
> >in the movie "Excaliber".  I went out an bought the piece after seeing
> >the movie.  I don't know much about classical music/contemporary.
> >However, this piece is extremely dramatic.

[rest deleted]

The music to which you refer is "Carmina Burana" by Carl Orff, an
early-20th century composer.  The full text of the title is
"Carmina Burana: Cantiones Profanae", the latter part of which refers
to it being secular songs for soloists and choirs with instruments
and visual effects; the former part means "Songs from Beuern", a
reference to the text being from manuscripts from the 13th century
found in a monastery at Benediktbeuern in the Bavarian Alps.

The part you hear in the movie "Excalibur" is the first song of the
first part: "O Fortuna", and yes, it is very dramatic and powerful.

--
Edward Jung
Microsoft Corp.

My opinions do not reflect any policy of my employer.

In article <2818@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM>, bjl@ESD.3Com.COM (Bobbie J.
Lawson) writes:
> > 
> > The piece that struck me during American Chronicles was Orlff
"Carmina
> > Buranga " (spelling on the last word is incorrect).

Yup, make that "Carmina Burana" by Orff.

> > On Sunday night I found myself in somewhat of a dilemna solved by
> > taping TP and then watching American Chronicles.  I thought it was
> > dark, but excellent.  ...

About a month ago when I asked Scott Frost about American
Chronicles he said the 1st show would be good, partly because
they had some extra time to work on the pilot.  My impression
was that production time limits might be a problem for the
following shows, but we'll have to wait & watch to find out.


------------------
Paul Raveling
Raveling@Unify.com

What movies has she been in besides "Two Moon Junction" and "Wild At
Heart"?

Sorry if this has been asked a million times, but she's HOT!


-- -- moconnor@argo.acs.oakland.edu Internet -- moconnor@oakland Bitnet -- ...!uunet!umich!vela!moconnor UUCP --

Are there any rabid "Wild at Heart" fans out there who've memorized vast
portions of the movie, from repeated viewings?  If so, perhaps you can help me.
I'm thinking about putting together a new .signature, and I really like
the line in the movie where Nicholas Cage says something to the effect
of "You boys have a lot of the same energy that 'E' had...", obviously
in reference to The King.  Well, my own version of Taking Care of Business
is to quote that line *precisely*, and I simply can't remember the exact 
wording.  Ultimately, the exact wording isn't THAT important, but it would
be nice, if nothing else, to avoid the inevitable corrections that I would
get if I screwed it up.  So, save me the embarassment and post or email 
if you know the *exact* quotation (I know some folks have the script, that'd
be helpful, unless Nick C. ad-libbed the sucker!).

Oh also, the part that follows about "You boys know this song?" would
be useful, for the full effect.

Thanks in advance...

- Dan



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"Elvis was seated on the toilet, actually reading a religious book...when 
suddenly a terrible pain gripped him by his stomach and seized his heart with a
strangler's grip.  'Oh no, dear dear God,' he thought.  He couldn't move.  He 
couldn't get up.  He had to get up.  He must get up...That terrible pain, like 
swords of fire, jabbing, slitting, cutting into his stomach, and especially his
liver - it was impossible to bear...Suddenly the thought flashed through him: 
this must be like what Jesus suffered."
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Damn good actress.  And HOT!

> > While I've never seen one like this, I'd certainly buy one (this
> > design is of my own invention):
> >
> > Bart in FBI-issue suit, holding cup of coffee and plate of apple
> > pie, outside "Twin Peaks" city limits sign.  Quote:  "Damn good
> > cup of coffee, Dude!"
.-.
|M|ake that a plate of either cherry or huckleberry pie, and
`-' you've got yourself a winner!  Or you could make it a donut
    (though I much prefer the pie).
.-.
|S|ign me up!  I want about 700 of these shirts!
`-' <_Jym_>

Available this week:

- "Twin Peaks" soundtrack album, containing the instrumental music heard on
  the show, plus several Julee Cruise songs.  Music by Angelo Badalementi,
  lyrics by David Lynch.

- A paperback book, "The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer", written by David
  Lynch's 22-year-old daughter, Jennifer.  According to an article in today's
  paper, Jennifer knows who the killer is, and "though the 184-page book is
  billed as containing definitve clues that lead to Laura's killer, it's not
  easy going.  Like the TV series, which ended its first season without
  disclosing the murderer, the book is crammed with red herrings, confusing
  twists, and oblique references."
  
  Will readers know who killed Laura, Jennifer was asked.  "The careful reader
  will know the clues and who the killer is," she replied.

- Along with "The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer", Simon & Schuster has just
  released a 60-minute audio tape: "Diane ..." The Twin Peaks Tapes of Agent
  Cooper.  You should be able to find it at any bookstore carrying "The Secret
  Diary of Laura Palmer".  Performed by Kyle MacLachlan, it includes all of the
  recordings Cooper made to Diane in the TV series, plus additional recordings
  which fill in other events we have seen or summarize the action in the show.

  It has many humorous moments (and a brief appearance by Lucy!), but the most
  interesting information comes at the end of the tape, when we hear Cooper's
  recordings AFTER he is shot.  Presumably these are things we will find out in
  the first episode of the new season.  I've summarized the most significant
  items below.  There are *SPOILERS* ahead, so if you don't want advance
  information, delete this message NOW.


Are you sure?


- Recorded via voice activation after being shot:

  - He was wearing a bulletproof vest "per Bureau regulations when working 
    undercover".

  - Things he regretted/would like to do: - have cracked the Lindbergh 
                                            kidnapping case
                                          - make love to a beautiful woman
                                          - visit Tibet
                              
- Summary given from hospital at 9:15 next morning:

  - Doc Hayward says he will live a "full normal life".  "Should be a new
    experience in and of itself."
  
  - "Leo Johnson checked in at approximately 5 AM, suffering a single gunshot 
    wound to the upper chest.  Condition critical."

  - "Jacques Renault apparently checked out a short time later, due to murder."

  - Pete Martell and Shelly Johnson are suffering from 2nd degree burns and 
    smoke inhalation.
  
  - Catherine Martell is missing, "possibly a victim of the fire."

  - Josie Packard is also missing.
  
  - Nadine is in serious condition.
  
- Summary of events at the cabin, as he now knows them:

  "At or about 1AM on the night of the murder, Leo Johnson, Laura Palmer,
  Jacques Renault, and Ronnette Pulaski arrived at Jacques' cabin together.
  The four of them were heard passing by the cabin of the Log Lady.
    
  "Upon reaching the cabin, they partied, drugs and liquor were consumed, Laura
  was tied up and had sexual relations with both Leo and Jacques.
  
  "Waldo, Jacques' bird, was let out of his cage, and attacked Laura.
    
  "Leo and Jacques fought.  Jacques went outside and passed out.  When he
  came to, Leo and the girls were gone.
  
  "What none of them knew was that a third man was outside watching.  He was
  heard passing by the Log Lady's cabin.
  
  "I believe that Leo then left alone, leaving Laura tied up, at which time the
  third man entered the cabin.
  
  "Several things support the notion that Leo was not involved in the actual
  murder, the strongest of which is that on the night of the Teresa Banks
  murder, Leo Johnson was in jail in Hungry Horse, Montana, on assault charges.
  
  "The third man then took Laura and Ronnette to the train car on foot.  Once
  inside, he killed Laura--a process that took him over an hour--during which,
  suffering from a severe blow to the head, Ronnette escape unobserved.
  
  "Five miles down the tracks from the train car, Deputy Hawk found a
  blood-soaked rag and several scraps of bleached paper.  The blood on the rag
  matches that used to write the note in the train car:  FIRE, WALK WITH ME.
  
  "The blood was not Laura's or Ronnette's, and it wasn't Jacques' or Leo's
  either.  It was a rare type: AB negative, and it belongs to the man who wrote
  that note--the third man, the killer."

In article <2996@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, moconnor@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Mike O'Connor) writes:
> > What movies has she been in besides "Two Moon Junction" and "Wild At
> > Heart"?

Has there been any discussion of the letter that Coop found under Laura's
fingernail in the pilot?  When he found it, it seemed like a fairly major
development, but I haven't seen any references to it since Coop's speech
at the town meeting (something about how the killer may have also killed
in Texas -- another finger pointing towards Leo, a travellin' man if I
ever saw one).
-=-

   Doug Taylor                         |   Nothing real can be threatened.
   The Ohio State University           |   Nothing unreal exists.
   doug_taylor@osu.edu                 |            - A Course in Miracles

Thought I'd share this with all of you.  It's from the September 13th
Toronto Star verbatim with my comments in {} brackets:

Just got through "The Secret Diary Of Laura Palmer" (Pocket Books, $10.95)
which is a very disturbing, even "dirty" book.  (Sure I read it.  Professional
reasons.)
  "Twin Peaks" detectives will be frustrated because the scribblings of the
twisted teenager give few new clues.  They provide more of a "backstory,"
TV talk for the background leading up to the first episode.
  Laura Palmer was one naughty girl.  
  In an entry dated about a year before her murder, she lists the initials of
40 people she has slept with, including Ronette Pulaski, the girl who has been
in a coma since the first episode, and Josie Packard, the owner of the mill. 

  {Netters have postulated the above, but there's a small and interesting
   surprise coming up.  Proceed at your own risk.}

^L

  {Hope that worked...}

  BOB, always in capital letters, is top of the list.  {Could this be Killer
Bob, of Cooper's dream and Mrs. Palmer's vision?}  But B.H. is not on it at
all.  Benjamin Horne, the owner of the Great Northern Hotel and a suspicious
creep of ever there was one, might come up clean.
  A far more intriguing bit of Peaks freaks merchandise is "'Diane...' The
Twin Peaks Tapes of Agent Cooper" (Simon & Schuster, $11.95).  It's an
audiocassette containing all of Cooper's musings - and it ends the day after
the last episode of the first season.
  (Don't read this next bit if you haven't seen last season's conclusion,
okay?)

  {Don't read this if you don't want to know the outcome of last season's
   cliffhangers.  Spoilers follow...}

^L

  {Hope that worked too...}

  Yes, Cooper was wearing a bullet-proof vest.  Pete Martell and Shelley
Johnson get rescued from the fire-bombed mill, but suffer burns and smoke
inhalation. Nadine Hurley and Dr. Jacoby are critical.  Catherine and
Josie Packard are missing.  Bad guy Jacques Renault buys the pig farm. 
And Leo?  Dumdedumdum - alive!

                                                      Herb...

In article <2996@vela.acs.oakland.edu> moconnor@vela.acs.oakland.edu writes:
> >What movies has she been in besides "Two Moon Junction" and "Wild At
> >Heart"?
> >
> >Sorry if this has been asked a million times, but she's HOT!

   Yeah, ain't she? She was also in a movie called _Crime_Zone_. If it wasn't
for her that movie would've been a waste of time. She made it worth watching.
Unfortunately even Miss Fenn couldn't help _Two_Moon_Junction_. That movie
bored me silly. And don't think that's easy: I'm prtty silly to start with.

-- _ _ _ The Rule of Fives: All things happen in 5s or multiples of / ) ) ) / 5 or are in some way directly or indirectly related to 5. / / / __/_> "The harder I look the more I find this to be true." / ( (_/(_) \ -Malaclypse the Elder, KSC

In article <Sep.12.16.55.03.1990.25785@remus.rutgers.edu> webster@remus.rutgers.edu (John Clayton Webster) writes:
> >
> >Is there a serial killer?  Is it a ruse?
> >
> >Who could be the serial killer/killer of Laura?


That whole fingernail thing seems pretty detatched from the rest
of the plot.  If there is a serial killer, Cooper is not paying much attention
to the other "victim" with the fingernail-letter.

One possibility is that the letters were there independently of
the murders.  i.e. Laura was tied up (sorry) with some cult or something
that had her wear this letter, and so was victim one, but there killers could
be two different people who knew nothing about the letters.  It sounds like
I am rationalizing out a potential plot defect.  Maybe it is just that.

CRL

Twin Peaks has been analyzed just about every way possible.  But some-
thing that still puzzles me is the "Bookhouse Boys".  With all the 
puns on names, old-movie character names, etc, ad nauseum - I am 
caused to wonder at the significance of the name "Bookhouse Boys".  
What an odd name for a vigilante group.  Methinks it must have some
significance (at least to Lynch).

Just another musing,


Connie

From USA Today, Monday September 10, 1990

Products From 'Twin Peaks'

(Photo of Laura Palmer, The caption reads:) LAURA PALMER: The sordid life
of the homecoming queen, played by Sheryl Lee, is detailed in a 'Twin Peaks'
diary.

(Photo of Joan Chen [Josie Packard], the caption reads:) JOAN CHEN: English
isn't all that was taught at tutorials.

(Photo of Richard Beymer [Ben Horne], the caption reads) RICHARD BEYMER: May
have been too fond of Laura.

(Photo of Jennifer Lynch, the caption reads:) JENNIFER LYNCH: Child of
'Twin Peaks' creator, she wrote Laura Palmer's diary.

Diary drops dark hints
By Matt Roush
USA TODAY

Drear diary:
Perhaps poor Laura Palmer is better off dead.

As the merchandising blitz for ABC's 'Twin Peaks' begins this week, new
clues are dangling before armchair Sherlocks antsy for the bizarre soap's
return Sept. 30.
A warning: 'The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer' (Pocket Books, $8.95) is
an R-rated, darkly sexual odyssey of perverted adolescent awakening: drug
addiction and prostitution, sadomasochism with both sexes and intimations
of childhood molestation.
"As seen by" Jennifer Lynch, 22, daughter of 'Peaks' creator David Lynch,
the 'Diary' drops hints and sheds new light on Laura's sordid relationships.
But not on all of them. One page-and-a-half entry is filled with initials
of sexual partners.
This is not the diary FBI Agent Dale Cooper found. That was a smokescreen
for this creepy confessional, which will turn up in the new season. "It
plays an integral part," says Jennifer Lynch.
Among key revelations:
> Benjamin Horne's fondness for Laura (over his own daughter Audrey) has
sinister undertones. Poems in the diary indicate repression of early sexual
abuse. A late entry: "I'm going to have to tell the world about Benjamin."
> Josie Packard, widow with a mysterious past, treats her English tutorials
with Laura "more like poorly executed seductions."
> And there's BOB, a shadowy figure akin to a psychic sexual vampire, who
invades her consciousness to initiate weird rites that plague her self-image.
Throughout, Laura and BOB engage in brutal dialogues, one foreshadowing the
"Fire ... Walk With Me" clue at her murder site.
Much lighter in tone is 'Diane ... The Twin Peaks Tapes of Agent Cooper'
(Simon & Schuster Audio, $9.95), Kyle MacLachlan's tongue-in-cheek dictations.
Full of rhapsodies on food, reasonably priced lodging, nature and the cost
of things (including his tape recorder), it takes us beyond his cliffhanger
shooting to resolve character's fates - and furthers Cooper's serial murder
theories with a culprit sounding just like BOB.
Also coming: a soundtrack CD this week, T-shirts at month's end, a calendar,
just approved coffee mugs, and next year, a Nintendo game.

Allen England
att!iwtsf!alle

Someone here claimed that Laura's friends/lovers etc. would notice if there'd
been a switch with Madeline. Someone else claims that James could've been
the third man Laura had sex with on the night of her death.

Well, the fact of the matter is that Laura's friends/lovers DID notice.
James specifically states that "Laura was like a different person," that she
wouldn't see him, and that he couldn't get through to her.
I seriously doubt that she and James had sex on the night of her death under
these conditions.

HLW

 ^
(_)

In article <1990Sep12.195838.6326@cbnewse.att.com> mmxg@cbnewse.att.com (mohsen.gamshad) writes:
> >interesting facts.  For example did you know that David Lynch
> >keeps a _uterus_ of a woman in a jar.

Oo ick.  I wonder how he got the woman in the jar.  B^)  Add water and stir.
Sounds like the woman in the radiator from Eraserhead.
(My apologies)

(In heaven, everything is fine.)
 Bill Sherman sherman@math.ucla.edu
"Show that the median, hce che ech, interecting at royde angles the
parilegs of a given obtuse one biscuts both the arcs that are in
curveachord behind."    Joyce, _Finnegans Wake_

In article <1990Sep13.123507.33188@eagle.wesleyan.edu> hweibel@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
> >
> >Well, the fact of the matter is that Laura's friends/lovers DID notice.
> >James specifically states that "Laura was like a different person," that she
> >wouldn't see him, and that he couldn't get through to her.
> >I seriously doubt that she and James had sex on the night of her death under
> >these conditions.

I agree wholeheartedly with the first part of your message. In fact, I pointed
out the same thing a while ago. But I still think it is possible for James
to have had sex with Laura that night. If you'll recall, James says something
like: "She was the real Laura again ..." to someone (was it Cooper?).
It seems that on the night of the murder, the person who saw James was 
the same person that James equates with Laura. If this is just a personality 
swing or an actual switch of identity, I don't know but it stills implies
that he was able to reach her that night.

--Brady

In article <7798@scolex.sco.COM> hannan@sco.COM (Hanna Nelson) writes:
> >you mean Andy, right?  HST didn't get hit in the original
> >airing of the tibetan baseball scene.

I stand corrected.  Its always Andy that takes the hit, isn't it.  Poor
fellow.  Probably drives him to commit murder :)

Robert Huebnerhuebner@aerospace.aero.org
The Aerospace Corporation

In article <jgp.653213616@rutabaga> jgp@rutabaga.Rational.COM (Jim Pellman) writes:
> >
> >  There are *SPOILERS* ahead, so if you don't want advance
> >  information, delete this message NOW.
> >

> >Are you sure?
> >

> >- Summary of events at the cabin, as he now knows them:
> >
> >  "Upon reaching the cabin, they partied, drugs and liquor were consumed, 
> >  Laura was tied up and had sexual relations with both Leo and Jacques.

One thing that has always puzzled me is that I haven't heard of of the
specifics about typing the semen in Laura's body. Some sort of typing MUST
have been done for it to be known that Laura had sex with three different 
men the night she died. As I remember, the typing used relates to (Is the 
same as?) blood-typing. I believe it's used with rape victims to identify
rapists by blood type. Any comments on this from sharper TP watchers than I?

> >  "The blood was not Laura's or Ronnette's, and it wasn't Jacques' or Leo's
> >  either.  It was a rare type: AB negative, and it belongs to the man who 
> >  wrote that note--the third man, the killer."

Now wait a minute! From the most recently-aired episode of TP, I seem to
remember that the blood found on Leo's shirt was AB negative, Jacques's
blood type. So this last paragraph seems to be inconsistent with known 
information. Did I miss something?


And for a totally unrelated, but interesting coincidence - While I was
watching the TP episode aired on Sept. 1, I was eating a chocolate-
dipped "Madeline" cookie, a yellow shortbread-like cookie with a thin,
brown chocolate frosting on exactly half of it! 
 

Cindy

Ok-- I admit my ignorance.
Can someone please help me figure out what needs to be done in order
to get DDULMAGE's IBM sounds up and running?  What is UUDECODE?

Thanks -
HLW

 ^
(_)

In article <85139@aerospace.AERO.ORG>, huebner@sunpoison.UUCP (Robert E. Huebner) oozed:

==> They definitely DID rock/bottle it.  I recall the video clip and the
==> description used (mainly because the video clip was one I didn't recall
==> seeing previously).  I think the rock was a wide miss (or maybe it was
==> the one that hit HST in the head?  :) )

you mean Andy, right?  HST didn't get hit in the original
airing of the tibetan baseball scene.

-- ``Jimmy Stewart from Mars'' -- Julee Cruise on David Lynch

[ The following is excerpted from the article "Star Watching" in the Sept.
  13, 1990 San Jose Mercury News.  Reprinted without permisssion.  Other
  stars' comments have been omitted, and Matt Groening's comments have 
  been edited. ]


STAR WATCHING

By Paul Lomartire, Palm Beach Post

They might do it to unwind or even to check out their own work, but the
people inside the tube are also in its audience.  Here's what's on their
sets.

-------

PEGGY LIPTON plays Double R Diner owner Norma Jennings on ABC's "Twin
Peaks."  Once she was known as Julie Barnes on "The Mod Squad."

Well, I wasn't watching TV for a long time.  And then my kids (Rashida,
14, and Kidada, 16) started turning me on to it.  Then I realized, I have
to watch it, I'm in it.

They watch television and they're very tuned into what's good and what's
not, so they got me to watch it.  But I still have a hard time actually
sitting through a whole show.  It's too fast and it's assaultive.

But there are some things I watch.  I would say there's nothing
consistently I watch.  I've watched "China Beach" and I like that.  I like
that pace.  Really, if you think about it, there's so much space to think
and to contemplate what you're watching.  You don't get that regularly on
TV.

-------

SHERYL LEE is dead as Laura Palmer and alive as look-alike Madeleine
Ferguson on ABC's "Twin Peaks."

I usually don't watch television.  It's funny -- because of the old shows,
everybody has television jokes from years ago and I have no idea what
they're talking about.

I grew up (in Boulder, Colo.) playing outside until bedtime.  Now, if I do
watch television, I'll watch "thirtysomething," "China Beach," "The Wonder
Years," "Doogie Howser," "The Simpsons."  But that's if the television is
on.  If my roommates are watching it, that's what they're watching, and I
end up sitting down and watching some of them.

-------

KYLE MACLACHLAN is FBI Agent Dale Cooper on "Twin Peaks."

I watch "Coach".  I love Craig T. Nelson -- he's my hero.

"Nightline," Ted Koppel I watch.  Cable channels.  I love the old National
Geographic specials and the Jacques Cousteau specials, that kind of stuff.
The stuff I grew up with.  There's not a lot of time, and I use TV as a
way to unwind as anything.  I don't take "TV Guide" -- I just turn on
whatever's on at the time and try to flip through and find something I
like.  If not, I'll go do something else.

-------

SHERILYN FENN plays "Twin Peaks'" Audrey Horne on ABC and is probably the
only character on TV who can put a cherry in her mouth and tie the stem
into a knot.

What do I watch on TV?  I like "The Simpsons."  I really don't watch a lot
of TV.  I watch cable to see what films are on Showtime or HBO.   That's
what I watch more than anything.

-------

MATT GROENING is the creator of "The Simpsons" on Fox.

I like "Twin Peaks."  I saw the first two hours and the last episode.  I
don't know what the hell is going on on it.  They were making it up as they
went along.  It's true.  I talked to one of the people who worked on the
show.  I said, "So who killed Laura Palmer?"  They said, "Oh, they changed
their mind so many times on that."  I went "Oh, man, that's not fair."

Almost all of the rests of television is flashing like it's trying to say,
"Don't forget that we're here.  Hey, hey, hey.  Look at this, look at this."
"Twin Peaks" did exactly the opposite.  It slowed it way, way down and
tried to say, "C'mere."  It tried to suck you in that way.  And I just
thought that was an interesting change of pace.  When I heard about "Twin
Peaks," I said it would never, ever work on (network) TV.



--
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||    ||    || ||__  ||__     \( v )/     ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU [preferred]
||___ ||___ || ||    ||        /___\      d-tcs017@steer.CalState.EDU
                                ^ ^

To add to the already numerous TP theme sightings (hearing?), I heard the
"man from another place" theme recently.  I have not heard "falling" on the
radio yet, but I _have_ heard this music a couple of times.  The music that
the dwarf dances to in Coop's dream.  It was on All Things Considered.
They played a full 1.5 minutes of this stuff after a story regarding
rumors.  _Something_ other than the Cruise album must be out there..



-- Michael McDaniel Dartmouth Class of 1991 | HB 2285 Usenet (UUCP): ...!{harvard,linus,att}!dartvax!mdm | Hanover, NH Internet/BITNET: mdm@dartmouth.edu | 03755
-- Michael McDaniel Dartmouth Class of 1991 | HB 2285 Usenet (UUCP): ...!{harvard,linus,att}!dartvax!mdm | Hanover, NH Internet/BITNET: mdm@dartmouth.edu | 03755

In article <6788@tekcrl.LABS.TEK.COM> ellis@tekcrl.LABS.TEK.COM (Cynthia Ellis) writes:
.
.
.
> >One thing that has always puzzled me is that I haven't heard of of the
> >specifics about typing the semen in Laura's body. Some sort of typing MUST
> >have been done for it to be known that Laura had sex with three different 
> >men the night she died. As I remember, the typing used relates to (Is the 
> >same as?) blood-typing. I believe it's used with rape victims to identify
> >rapists by blood type. Any comments on this from sharper TP watchers than I?
.
.
.
> >Cindy

they (they being the "they" that everyone uses") can now do dna tracing
of the sperm.  now rapists can be positively identified this way.

analogout to fingerprints,   dna-prints???

saw it on nova or something once.

/marciano
marciano@vitalink.com
vitam6\!marciano@uunet.uu.net
...!vitam6!marciano

disclaimer:  yes there is one

Hi, uudecode is a utility for converting the ascii file back into
an executable. I had a heck of a time finding a copy myself, although
the folks around here know more about this stuff than I do. I found a
copy on compuserve. I'm sorry I can't offer any advice as to any other
place you can get a copy of uudecode.exe. I f you want, I could u/l
to a dial up line if you have access to one.

In article <352@kaos.MATH.UCLA.EDU>, sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (William Sherman) writes...
> > 
>> >>"Laura" found out that Josie had her husband killed and was
>> >>blackmailing her?  That might also explain how she got (was
>> >>going to get) the money for the cocaine deal with Leo.  
> > 
> >I thought that this was from Bobby and Mike.  See their conversation
> >in their cell.  The amount they discussed was equal to the amount
> >that Cooper & Truman found in her safety-deposit box.
> > 

Yeah...I forgot that Josie was on the board.  But anyway, regarding
this issue...

It seems to me that Laura (not Bobby & Mike) got the money and was
holding it in the safety deposit box.  All 3 of them probably
planned to "go into business" together.  Bobby & Mike were 
supposed to get the money from Laura, who had the key to the box.
When she died, that put a crimp in their cocaine-business plans.
Perhaps all 3 were in on blackmailing Josie.  Where would Bobby
and Mike have gotten the money themselves?  I still think it 
makes sense that the money is blackmail money.

In any case, the countdown has begun.  We will know at least
some of what's going on very soon.

In article <24205@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> mdm@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Michael McDaniel) writes:
> >To add to the already numerous TP theme sightings (hearing?), I heard the
> >"man from another place" theme recently.  I have not heard "falling" on the
> >radio yet, but I _have_ heard this music a couple of times.  The music that
> >the dwarf dances to in Coop's dream.  It was on All Things Considered.
> >They played a full 1.5 minutes of this stuff after a story regarding
> >rumors.  _Something_ other than the Cruise album must be out there..

The Twin Peaks soundtrack is out now. I know for sure it's available
on tape and CD. If you're interested in it, I suggest you buy now.
I got the last one at my local CD store, and the clerk told me they
had sold out very quickly. The songs on the Soundtrack are:

"Twin Peaks Theme" - music from opening credits
"Laura Palmer's Theme" - the very low, sinister music they like to
play while showing pine trees
"Audrey's Dance" - the goofy, off-key music Audrey dances to in
the Great Northern and at Norma's diner
"Freshly Squeezed" - a variation on Audrey's dance
"the Bookhouse Boys" - a jazzier variation on TP music
"Night Life in Twin Peaks"
"Dance of the Dream man" - the song Michael McDaniel alluded to in
his posting (see above)
"Love Theme from Twin Peaks" - the music they play when Donna and
James make out

The other three songs on the album are "Into the Night", "The
Nightingale", and "Falling", all of which Julee Cruise sings and
are also available on her Warner Bros. album, "Floating into the
Night".

it's one of the best soundtracks I've ever heard. My only complaints:
the CD is AAD, the lowest level of CD quality;
there are no Icelandic drinking songs! :-)

Jeff Abbott
______________________________________________________________________
I want to live in Twin Peaks if I grow up. . .
abbott@mobius.aca.mcc.com
________________________________________________________________________

Ciao-

Can anyone confirm or deny this: I remember reading somewhere--possibly
on the net--that there were plans to possibly produce a Twin  Peaks
High School yearbook. If so I can see the caption after Laura
Palmer's picture: "The Girl Most-Likely to be Wrapped in Plastic."

16 days and counting...

##################################################
In heaven everthing is fine...You've got your good
things, & I've got mine  Girl-in-the-Radiator,
"Eraserhead"  sally@mica.berkeley.edu

>> >>  BOB, always in capital letters, is top of the list.  {Could this be Killer
>> >>Bob, of Cooper's dream and Mrs. Palmer's vision?}

> >We do know that Bobby's first and last names start with "B", and we don't
> >know what his middle name is.  He was Laura's public boyfriend, right?

Don't forget the mysterious "Bob" in the pilot who talked with Audrey
and the receptionist just before Audrey pulled her pencil from her coffee
cup and scared away the Norwegians. "Okay, BOB. Alright BOB." (Strong
emphasis on his name.)

I don't think we ever got a good look at him. Don't think he had long
grey-on-grey hair though, nor that he smoked a pipe or had sheep skins
mounted in front of his eyes. ;->

While I have that scene in mind (and to appease the inews linecounter),
did anyone else think there was an echo there of Ronette's "Don't go [in]
there!" in the receptionist's plea to Audrey??

Twin Peaks fans might find it worth going out of their way to see the movie
"The Hidden".  It features Kyle MacLachlan as an FBI agent with a twist and the
actor who plays TP's Hank Jennings as a crazed, nearly super-human bank robber.
I don't want to give away the plot, but don't assume that everyone is what they
seem to be.  I believe the movie is from 1988, and I imagine it's available on
video.

WARNING:  SPOILERS!!!



In <4404@crash.cts.com> ewagar@crash.cts.com (Eric Wagar) writes:

> >In article <1010@ria.ccs.uwo.ca> hekunze@watmsg.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
>> >>  BOB, always in capital letters, is top of the list.  {Could this be Killer
>> >>Bob, of Cooper's dream and Mrs. Palmer's vision?}

> >We do know that Bobby's first and last names start with "B", and we don't
> >know what his middle name is.  He was Laura's public boyfriend, right?

If you read the "Secret Diary" it will be clear that BOB is not Bobby Briggs.
He's either:

a) Satan (i.e., a supernaturtal evil force);
b) A personality of Laura's that manifests her masochism stemming from abuse
   as a litlle girl;
c) someone who has used psychic powers on her since she was a little girl.

Let's put it this way: BOB and Laura have "conversations" *in her
diary*.  She's not recording a conversation; rather, she writes a
line or two, then BOB writes a line or two...

Anyway, the book is very disturbing; I do not recommend it unless you
really have to know every clue possible.

One important charcater in the diary not mentioned in the show so far is
a shut-in Botanist (whom Laura rapes) to whom Laura gives the diary before
her death.  Remeber, this is the "secret" diary of LP, not the one Cooper
found...

-- Ron Chrisley chrisley@csli.stanford.edu Xerox PARC SSL New College Palo Alto, CA 94304 Oxford OX1 3BN, UK (415) 494-4728 (865) 793-484

It's OUT!  Wrapped in PLASTIC!  The soundtrack album is on the
shelves at your local record store.  Get the CD if you can.  The tracks
include both the vocal and instrumental theme songs, "Audrey's Dance",
"The Dance of the Dream Man", the love theme, Laura's theme, and other
stuff you'll recognize.  There are three Julee Cruise overlap songs:
"Falling" (of course), "The Nightingale" (from the Roadhouse) and "Into
the Night" (which was playing endlessly in Jacques' cabin).  As an
added goodie, there's a cast photo-list.  Who plays who.

I'm sorry if this has already been announced.
It's just dreamy.


 Bill Sherman sherman@math.ucla.edu
"Show that the median, hce che ech, interecting at royde angles the
parilegs of a given obtuse one biscuts both the arcs that are in
curveachord behind."    Joyce, _Finnegans Wake_

I might have gotten this out of some Lynch interview, but... it seems
like a few things are always present in Lynch films:

  oA sense of senselessness.

Seemingly random happenings, which work subtly into the entire
plot (of the film) in a "sum of the parts ain't nowhere equal
to the whole".


  oDirect resemblences to other Lynch films.

Seemingly random happenings, which occur subtly in multiple
Lynch films, in possibly a "sum of the parts ain't nowhere
equal to the whole".

Is Lynch just making ONE movie?


Clay Webster
webster@romulus.rutgers.edu

I am on a QUEST.  Supposedly there was a European version of TP,
which lasted about four hours (?)  In it, reportedly, the entire
scene was set, there was a 18 minute dream sequence, and (dum-de-dum)
the murderer was revealed.  So uh, anyone seen this?

(I believe this info was from people magazine.)

Clay Webster
webster@romulus.rutgers.edu

Hi, had my best tp theme sighting the otherday. Walked into the painfully
stylish Eden Prairie Center (shopping mall) and behold, the tp theme music
it certainly made for an interesting cruise (no pun) around the mall.
everbody was staring at me like I had some stupid grin on my face...

After watching each episode at least four times now, I'm left with the
following observations:

The dwarf in the dream can be none other than Laura herself. Look at
what he says: "She's my cousin. But doesn't she look almost exactly
like Laura Palmer." Laura could have said the exact same words,
considering how similar she and Maddie looked. So is the girl in the
dream actually Maddie? Maybe.

Playing the dream sequence backwards is a worthwhile experience. It
sounds really strange to hear the performers speaking "backwards" in a
normal voice. The only other part to sound interesting backwards is
the part in the beginning where scenes are rapidly flashing along with
a strange shutter-clicking kind of sound for each scene. Played
backwards that sounds remarkably like a single typewriter key being
struck. I won't get into the significance of that because I know of
none. The easiest way to play the scene backwards is to hold a
cassette deck up to the TV and record the entire scene. Then take a
screwdriver, open the cassette and reverse the reels (carefully). The
tape will now play backwards. I also noticed the slow motion voice
that says "Laura" at the beginning of the dream (a precursor to Waldo)
sounds most human at double speed.

Another theory I have which is kind of far-fetched is that the
mysterious person with Leo in the woods is Josie Packard. Why? Only
for the reason that the same strange chord was struck when we saw a
mysterious figure silhouetted in an office. That figure turned out to
be Josie. So if the strange chord represents a specific person, then
that chord represents Josie. But if it simply represents ominous
mystery, we're still in the dark.

Did anyone else catch what has to be the biggest continuity gap?
(Apart from the moon changing an entire phase in a single day--anyone
ever come up with a reason for that one?) In the pilot, James and
Donna have just emerged from the darkness on a motorcycle. Truman and
Cooper give chase. When they first start chasing, we see the flashing
lights on the police vehicle. But in the very next cut, they're off.
Then they're on again. How could they (producers, etc.) have missed
this?

I'm curious as to why Cooper was "staking out" the Roadhouse that
night with Truman. I never saw a distinct relation to Laura's murder
and sitting in front of the Roadhouse. Remember, when they were first
there, Donna had not yet snuck out of her home and Cooper knew nothing
of the drug-running operation going on. So why would he be wasting his
time sitting in a police vehicle in front of a bar for no good reason?

I've gotten into quite a few arguments over whether the tattoo on the
one-armed man's missing arm said "Mom" or "Bob". I changed my mind on
this one a couple of times yet there were always people to argue the
other side, so maybe it's deliberately vague?

I saw the same footage on the "Laura/Donna videotape" that someone
else mentioned. One second we're looking at Laura, then for a split
second that you can't possibly see without freeze-framing there's a
scenic background of sorts, then Laura again. What's interesting is
that in that split second, the camera JUMPS in on Laura's eye; it
doesn't move in. Almost as if the camera was turned off for a second,
then turned back on. Maybe James pointed the camera somewhere else and
hit the pause button, then refocused on Laura. Then again, maybe
someone in production screwed up.

If Leland were really aware of what his daughter was doing at One Eyed
Jack's and was feeling guilty about THAT, then shouldn't he be
terribly angry with Ben Horne, since we KNOW he was involved with that
operation and it would be impossible to keep that a secret from
someone he worked closely with? My guess is that OEJ's is actually a
fairly innocent operation and the real evil stuff (Leo, Jacques,
violent sex) was completely unrelated.

Is the Double R Diner a 24-hour operation? In the pilot, Bobby is
giving Shelley a ride home pretty early in the morning and it seems
like she's coming off a shift.

What was the significance of Nadine's forgetting who James was on the
day of the funeral? (Nadine to Big Ed: "That's not your bike." Ed:
"It's James." Nadine: "James who? [pause] Oh." I don't recall any
other instances of forgetfulness on her part, just insanity.

When the Icelandics first arrive, Ben suggests to Jerry a trip to One
Eyed Jack's (he signifies this by covering his eye, to which his
brother says that it's an honor knowing him). Why then is Ben upset
when Jerry tells him in a later episode that he took them there? (Ben:
"And whose idea was THAT?" Jerry: [looking guilty] "I take full
responsibility.")

What is the deal with Little Elvis? What does Ben mean by "time to
give Little Elvis a bath" as he displays a doll? Could it be related
to the Elvis mannerisms of the dwarf in the dream?

Who is on the phone right before Cooper is shot? I hear Andy's voice
towards the end but it sounds like it's coming over the radio. Also,
why does Cooper not know who it is after the person starts talking?
How could you NOT recognize Andy's voice and wouldn't Andy identify
himself? Finally, I must refute whoever said the third shot came from
Cooper's gun. True, we only see two bullets hit Cooper. But we very
clearly see the same gun fire the third shot. Cooper hasn't fired at
all. Since I've heard that the dwarf will be back, I imagine there
will be some kind of recovery scene where he's hallucinating or
something.

I didn't notice missing dialogue in the "Lucy on the radio" scene. In
fact, I was able to hear everything that was heard in Canada (thanks
for the transcript; I couldn't make it out before). What I suspect is
that some ABC stations had problems with sound; maybe half the stereo
signal accounting for some loss of dialogue. I've heard similar
glitches before, usually on a local level.

I visited Twin Peaks, California over the summer. Close to Big Bear
City, it's a cool, mountainous area not far from the desert. It's also
very small, only a couple of thousand people. (Isn't the population of
the REAL Twin Peaks [yes, I'm actually referring to the fictitious one
as the real one] way too high for the kind of town it appears to be?
What was the figure on the sign? Well over 10,000 I believe.) I found
myself having to use the phone in the sheriff's office. I was sorely
tempted to ask him what kind of magnificent trees were all around.

Does anyone know that the country's largest serial killer operated in
the very area that Twin Peaks is filmed in? From around 1980 to 1985
about 60 people were found murdered, usually prostitutes, runaways,
etc. Specific details as to the clues he left were never revealed to
the public. The killer (known, I believe, as the Green River killer)
was never found. I heard this from someone who lived in the area and
was surprised that the townspeople weren't a bit more upset with the
plot of the show. I'm surprised too but find it in keeping with
Lynch's way of doing things.

I'd be interested in hearing anyone's input or comments regarding any
of the above. Sorry for the length but these questions and
observations have been building up for quite some time.

Emmanuel

emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us

The population of Twin Peaks (according to the photo on the cover of the Twin
Peaks soundtrack) is 52,501.

> > Invite to Love  seems to parrallel TP, and in IV there was a rather 
> > long scene fosusing on the soap.  Lucy is watching it in the sherriff's offic
> > and when Cooper, Truman, and Andy walk in she gives them a plot summary:
> > 
> > "Good Morning Lucy, What's going on?"
> > 
> > "Thanks to Jade, Jerrod decided not to kill himself and he's changed his will
> > leaving the Towers to Jade instead of Emerald.  But Emerald found out about i
> > and now she's trying to seduce Chet to give her the new will so she can destr
> >  it.  Montana's planning to kill Jerrod at midnight so the Towers will belong
> > to Emerald and Montana.  But I think she's going to double-cross him and he 
> > doesn't know it yet.  Poor Chet."

Wow!  If we play with this theme, we can come up with a lot of 
possibilities:
I think we can agree that "The Towers" are representative of the Mill.  (I 
may be assuming too much).  Given that, most of us would assume that 
Jade=Josie, Jerrod=Josi's late husband, and Emerald=Catherine.  So who is 
Chet?  It sould be Van Horne, But I think that it is more likely to be our 
insurance salesman.  Leaving Montana=Hank, our Domino Dude.

This would seem to be "aftershadowing" the mystery between Hand & Josie, and 
her late husband's death.

But what if we reverse the girls, so Jade=Catherine & Emerald=Josie?  This 
would leave us with Chet=Harry Truman perhaps.  This interpretation leaves 
Josie looking !very! nasty.  How many of us believe she's as nice as she 
appears to be anyway?  And with this interpretation, we could be 
foreshadowing events to come!

Given the extra-close ties between TP & Inv.To Love, I think this piece 
bears a close look.

Remember Coopers words:  "Whenever two events point to the same conclusion 
simultaneously, we must pay strict attention" (paraphrase).

In article <3X6JP1w163w@darkside.com> qc@darkside.com (Quantum Cheerios) writes:
> >I think we can agree that "The Towers" are representative of the Mill.  (I 
> >may be assuming too much).  Given that, most of us would assume that 
> >Jade=Josie, Jerrod=Josi's late husband, and Emerald=Catherine.  So who is 
> >Chet?  It sould be Van Horne, But I think that it is more likely to be our 
> >insurance salesman.  Leaving Montana=Hank, our Domino Dude.

So, what do we do about the fact that Jade and Emerald are twins, one
naughty, one nice?  Does this whole Laura/Madeleine angle (which seems
MIGHTY DARN COMPELLING to me) become irrelevant?  And I think Montana
must be Leo because of they way they both die at the same time!

Hmmm, back to the videos...

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WHOA...Madeline and Laura are played by the same actress--
Sheryl Lee.  Your friend/neighbor must have played Ronette Pulaski--
Laura Palmer's co-worker, friend and lover.

Has anyone been reading their newspapers lately?  Timber
is big business in the PNW.  Prez. Bush is ready to amend the
endangered species to keep loggers employed.  Ben Horne's Ghostwood
development will close the mill and put people out of work.
Anyway, nearly all new large developments have some
organized opposition--and with good reason.

Ok, here's my first (and maybe LAST!!) shot at generating
a MacIfied startup sound file.. It was hell, but very
educational to a dyed in the wool IBM user.
It is Ms. Martell? saying "I can't understand you, you
have a thing in your mouth.." Please let me know if this
works, and if you want more of them, also, all suggestions
welcome.. Thanks!

File is Stuffed and BinHexed, downsampled to 11khz.


Attachments:
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Actually, the four hour version of _Dune_ is *not* David Lynch's
_Dune_.  He took his name off the credits of that version.
It was not an improvement on the original.

Tim
-- Timothy R. Flanagan tim@reed.bitnet "All that exists is just and unjust and equally justified in both." --Friedrich Nietzsche

I work at a radio station, where we received the promotional
release of the TP soundtrack on CD.  Unlike the general release
version you can buy in the store, the "Not For Resale, For Promotional
Use Only" version has no words on the face of the disk (well,
it has tiny little ones around the edges), but it *does* have
a donut imprinted on it.  A life-size, sugar-coated cake donut
resting on matted green grass.  Quite the collectors' item,
wouldn't you say?


Tim
-- Timothy R. Flanagan tim@reed.bitnet "All that exists is just and unjust and equally justified in both." --Friedrich Nietzsche

In article <3883@csccat.UUCP>, larry@csccat.UUCP (Larry Spence) inquired:

==> The TP soundtrack album is now (9/11) available.  I also noticed that the 
==> videotape of Lynch/Badlamenti's (sp?) "Industrial Symphony #1" with Julee 
==> Cruise was finally out.  Has anyone seen this?  I bought the soundtrack right 
==> away, but I have no idea what the video is like, so I'm waiting.  Anyone?

i saw this at the telluride film festival last week.
julee cruise was there, introducing and they played
a 10-minute interview with lynch/badalamenti/cruise
"explaining" the video.  the video is 50 minutes long.

Possible Industrial Symphony, TP, and W@H spoilers below.



it's very strange.  the video was made of a live performance
in boston (?) sometime earlier this year.  during the show, 
i kept thinking of the "performance art" of mark pauline 
and survival research labs.  light flashes like lightning, 
allowing only glimpses of the dark stage set very industrial-
like with pieces of car and strange metal structures.  

julee cruise "floats" around vertically above the stage,
wearing a pink party dress, looking very angelic and 
singing songs from "floating into the night".  at one
point, a nearly naked (she's wearing black bikini undies 
and spike heels) woman climbs around one of the cage-like 
structures, trying to get out.

the video is subtitled "dream of the broken-hearted" (or
something similar) and begins with a phone conversation
between laura dern (as lula) and nicky cage (as sailor).
the conversation is sort of the break-up at the end of
W@H, as if it had been conducted over the phone.  in the 
middle of the industrial performance piece, the dancing 
dwarf from TP comes onstage with a sax player and another 
woman (this one dressed).  the saxophonist plays and the 
woman caresses herself as the dwarf reenacts the conversation 
between lola and sail from the prologue. 

at one point, stagehands open the trunk of the car where
julee cruise has been carried.  she sits up and they
videotape her singing (i think) "rockin' back inside
my heart".  the videotape plays on three large tv screens
at the front of the stage.  pretty neat.

i'm not sure i would buy it (depends on the price) but, as
a david lynch fan, i'm glad i saw it.

hanna
-- ``Jimmy Stewart from Mars'' -- Julee Cruise on David Lynch

 I just saw something funny in the last episode.  It was probably 
unintentional, but it really had me laughing.  James, Madeline, and
Donna are listening to the tape of Laura talking about Leo.  She says
he "can really light my f-i-r-e."  The scene then cuts to Leo preparing
to set the mill -- and his wife -- on fire.


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Okay! I've got a pretty good guess based on the little preview
of the season premier that was shown at the end of last week's
re-run.



























We're going to have another dream sequence, guys! Presumably
by Cooper as he lies on the ground unconscious from the shots.

Well, folks, by now it is all but certain that Killer Bob was an
alternate personality of Laura Palmer. Several people have mentioned
the _Secret_Diary_of_Laura_Palmer_ which has her carrying on a
conversation with Bob on the pages. The clincher for me came
when the man in the new dream says:

"Many have seen him, but not his body."

So quite possibly Laura did have a hand in her own death.

---------- Ryan Mathews
 
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emerick@bucsf.bu.edu (Emerick Rogul) writes:

> > I just saw something funny in the last episode.  It was probably 
> >unintentional, but it really had me laughing.  James, Madeline, and
> >Donna are listening to the tape of Laura talking about Leo.  She says
> >he "can really light my f-i-r-e."  The scene then cuts to Leo preparing
> >to set the mill -- and his wife -- on fire.

With David Lynch, it's ALWAYS intentional.  If you have (or can get) the
series on tape for repeat viewings, you'll find ungodly amounts of
subtle and subliminal material that are most decidedly intentional.

synth .:::::. "I *really* have to urinate ..."

Johnny Horne may not be retarded or autistic.  Audrey tells Coop
that he has emotional problems and it runs in the family.  She
also says he's at the 3rd grade level.

Has anyone noticed the necklace in the coconut James & Donna find
at Dr. Jacoby's is now on a gold chain?  In the first episode we saw
Jacoby with the necklace in the coconut but it was on a thin leather
strip (like the one James buried).

Could the mysterious person in black with Leo in the woods and then at the
Gazebo be our Bob from the dream & psychic vision?

Just because Jacques says he passed out doesn't mean he didn't further
participate in that evening's festivities.  Who among us have also awoke
to find ourselves somewhere we don't remember being?  Usually we learn
the sordid details of our behavior the next day by a fellow party-er.

The true answer lies in the log -- we just have to figure out the code.
Lynch is very fond of the Log Lady concept & may have purposefully
made the log a "hero".

Time for a cup of Joe!

Okay, this is the second time I've seen the phrase "backwards masking"
being used here...but not once has it been used in the context of
what backwards masking really is.  Backwards masking, a phenomenon
of auditory perception has NOTHING to do with sounds being played
backwards.  Backwards masking has to do with the *temporal ordering*
of sounds.

"Masking" refers to the reduction in audibility of a signal in the presence
of another sound.  You can hear a pin drop in a church, but not when
someone coughs at the same time...even though the absolute amplitude
of the pindrop has not changed.  The cough masked the pin drop.

If the cough follows the pindrop by about five seconds, the pindrop is
still audible.  But as you move the two sounds closer together in 
time, the audibility of the pindrop is affected by the following
cough.  If the pindrop is followed by the cough just .25 seconds later,
the pindrop is no longer audible:  the cough has "backwards masked"
the pindrop.  

A reference on this:  Elliott, L.L. (1971), "Backward and Forward Masking,"
AUDIOLOGY 10, 65-76.

Greg

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All you Sherilyn Fenn (Audrey Horne) fans may want to take note that,
according to the National Enquirer (gimme a break, my mother buys it),
Sherilyn has completed a cover and photo layout for Playboy for 
$100000 that will be in their January or February issue.

      Herb...

Clues follow...









































> >We're going to have another dream sequence, guys! Presumably
> >by Cooper as he lies on the ground unconscious from the shots.

> >Well, folks, by now it is all but certain that Killer Bob was an
> >alternate personality of Laura Palmer. Several people have mentioned
> >the _Secret_Diary_of_Laura_Palmer_ which has her carrying on a
> >conversation with Bob on the pages. The clincher for me came
> >when the man in the new dream says:

> >"Many have seen him, but not his body."

> >So quite possibly Laura did have a hand in her own death.

There was a show on ABC entitled "Inside Twin Peaks and Cop Rock", which
was pretty much an overview of the show itself. However, at the end they
read a section of the Diary in which Laura had written something like

"I wish Bob were dead. Dead so that I could kick his corpse...etc."

Anyway, for what it's worth...

Ferg
gferg@hoop.csd.sgi.com

The "blood" referred to on the "Diane" tape is not the blood
on Leo's shirt, but the blood found at the site of the killing (a
Great Northern passenger train car--a link to Ben Horne?) and used
to write the note:  "FIRE WALK WITH ME."

There are more possibilities than those outlined above.
In fact, The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer--which, by the way, is
not the diary found by Cooper and Truman--points a strong finger
at Leland.  BOB is a child-abuser, someone who doesn't want "Laura"
to grow-up, someone who has been having sex with her since she
was four or five.  BOB is an anagram--like DAD it is spelled the
same way backwards and forwards.  The diary also reveals Laura
to be a paranoid schizophrenic.  There's no need to believe in
the Laura/Maddy switch to believe that there are 2 Laura's.
In any event, the Diary reveals that Maddy is 4 years older than
Laura which the autopsy would have surely discovered.

With the new season just two weeks away, I find myself a bit worried.
The mystery of what happened to Laura Palmer is certain to be at least
partially cleared up. I hope they do it right.

What I mean is this: Twin Peaks is a *different* show. One of things
that makes it so great is the constant hinting at something
unbelievably sinister going on beneath the surface. Little bits and
pieces are revealed, but on the whole we still don't know much.

I would be *so* disappointed if Laura's death turned out to be a
simple case of overly rough sex, or if it wasn't intentional.

Laura Palmer was supposed to have secrets, incredibly dark secrets. I
hope they don't go back on that (I doubt they will). Whatever it was
that got her killed, whatever she was involved in, I hope it was a
little more shocking than a drug-smuggling ring.

Two weeks 'til the new season. Here's hope for some surprises.

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A few things I noticed in the final episode:

The second umbrella found by D & J in Dr. Jacoby's
office, the one labeled "The first time I laid eyes on...."
was dated August 9th, 1974.  This was the date that Richard 
Nixon resigned from the presidency.

The gold chain that the half-a-heart in the cocoanut
was on is *not* what it was on when D & J hid it.  It was 
originally on a leather thong.

Also, no one has followed up on my observation that 
three of the Icelandic Drinking Songs were "Home on the Range,"
"Row, Row, Row Your Boat" & "A Hundred Bottles of Beer on the 
Wall."  Could someone let me know that they see this post?
I know that my posts to other groups get out, but perhaps to
alt.* I'm screwed.

"I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV"Ge|ge

--

Well, our observations were correct. She does say "this is
Laura" not "this is Laura Palmer" (as heard when Jacoby played
the tape in the earlier episode) and she does sound distinctly
malicious, as opposed to sad (again, as heard.) I'm still
wondering if this is supposed to reflect the feelings of those
listening or if it's a different tape. It is rather obviously a
different necklace...

Does anyone have any theories on why Hank shot Leo? 
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Craig Hotchkiss writes:
> > Logic:  Leland knows that Agent Cooper can easily deduce who killed Jacques 
> > because he was at the police station and asked about suspect to Harry and the
> > other doctor.  

  I have been trying to convince my local fellow TP viewers that Leland is
  not necessarily deranged, but quite sane in his actions to cover up the
  fact that he had sex with his daughter.  

  I think that Leland was the Heavy Breather that beat up Dr. Jacoby at the
  gazebo.  As you recall, he was sitting on his sofa in the dark when
  Maddy left the house imitating Laura.  It's quite possible that Leland
  followed her.

  Leland acted quite sanely in killing Jacques.  He deliberately tied off
  Jacques' free hand to avoid any struggling, a sign of good planning.  
  The question is: did he kill Jacques because of Jacques' implied
  involvement in his daughter's death?  Or did he kill Jacques to silence
  him because Leland himself was somehow involved in this can of worms?
  I suspect that the second case is possible.  Perhaps Leland was actually
  at Jacques' cabin when Laura was involved in an orgy (from Laura's 
  secret diary).  The graveyard scene kind of implied that there was 
  something incestuous going on, too.  

  In any case, assuming that silencing Jacques was his motive, he may 
  have pannicked and begun to think that Jacques may have already spilled
  the beans to Cooper.  Hence, he went over to the Great Northern and
  figured to put Cooper out of his misery.  

  For a while, I thought that Leland may have actually been Laura's killer,
  and that somehow he'd be the physical link to the dreamy BOB, but that
  seems rather unlikely after reading the secret diary.

  The pilot episode preview was also rather intriguing.  Whilst killer
  BOB's visage fades in and out of near-focus, an as yet unseen (dream?)
  character says:

  "Three have seen him, yes."    Okay.  There's Mrs. Palmer in her vision,
                Cooper in his dream where Mike mentions him,
 and Laura (who has seen him, from the secret
 diary).

  (Or did he say, "3. Many have seen him, yes" or something to that effect?
   I didn't tape this, so I'm going on what I scribbled down while it was
   happening.  Perhaps he was enumerating the final item on his list of
   three things he was going to tell Cooper.  He did start with "I will
   tell you three things...".)
 
  "But not his body."            Mrs. P and Cooper haven't, and it's hard to
 say whether Laura dreamed him or not from
 her diary.  She may have only seen him in
 hallucinations & dreams.  
  "One only, known to you."      Huh?  So, one person has actually seen 
 BOB's body and Cooper knows him?  I suppose
 this fourth person has not had a vision or
 dream of BOB and, hence, can be ingored in
 the first sentence.
  
  In any case, we get from this that BOB is, in fact, a bona fide physical
  person (or the dreamy killer BOB is linked to an actual person).  
  I don't know what to make of it yet, but it's gonna be one hell of a pilot.
  
  Herb...

  Actually, what the tall man in the preview was saying is:

"Three have seen him, yes, but not his body -- one known only to you."

Presumably the tall man is speaking to Cooper, but then again, he could
be speaking to Mrs. Palmer.  If Cooper is the one addressed, then a person
who only Cooper knows is Diane!  And we know that Diane will be in the
next season.  Hmmm....

I just noticed that in the last episode, when Agent Cooper is shot twice with
a semiautomatic pistol with a silencer (an in-joke among those who know a bit
about guns, since a silencer doesn't do much good for an open-chambered
weapon) that we see a closeup of both shots, and there is not one single drop
of blood from either.  Given that a number of people get shot in this episode,
replete with the normal outflowings of blood one would expect, it seems pretty
clear that Dale was indeed wearing his bulletproof tuxedo.  On some tv shows,
absence of blood would just mean lazy special-effects work, but in this case I
think it is significant.

Aside: anyone know why, after Jacques guzzles his beer, he stands up from a
table containing two half-full glasses?  Seems like a continuity glitch, or
else a waitress with an odd sense of humor....

-Johnny TV

In article <1083@beguine.UUCP> George.Harris@samba.acs.unc.edu (BBS Account) writes:
> >
> >A few things I noticed in the final episode:
> >
> >The second umbrella found by D & J in Dr. Jacoby's
> >office, the one labeled "The first time I laid eyes on...."
> >was dated August 9th, 1974.  This was the date that Richard 
> >Nixon resigned from the presidency.

I think the name of who he laid eyes on was a womans name
starting with M. Later in the episode, when Pete is helping
Catherine search for the books, he finds an old yearbook, and
notices a girls picture, and says "I wonder what ever happened 
to Mimsy(?)...". I'm not sure of the name in either case, did
anyone happen to notice if they were the same? Could be a
foreshadowing of a new character who returns to Twin Peaks this
season...

> >
> >The gold chain that the half-a-heart in the cocoanut
> >was on is *not* what it was on when D & J hid it.  It was 
> >originally on a leather thong.

This has been remarked upon. It is unclear at this point whether
this is a significant fact or a continuity error. There are also
differences between the wordings in the tape from the first time
we heard it....

> >
> >Also, no one has followed up on my observation that 
> >three of the Icelandic Drinking Songs were "Home on the Range,"
> >"Row, Row, Row Your Boat" & "A Hundred Bottles of Beer on the 
> >Wall."  Could someone let me know that they see this post?
> >I know that my posts to other groups get out, but perhaps to
> >alt.* I'm screwed.

I think you're correct, I thought it quite funny at the time...

> >
> >"I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV"Ge|ge
> >
> >--

Looking forward to the new season,
Barry


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Barry Eynon
barry@playfair.stanford.edu

I just finished watching the Emmys and I am really ticked. Twin Peaks
didn't win a single lousy major Emmy of all those it was nominated
for.

Directing? Nope. Writing? Nope. Lead actor? NO! They gave it to Peter
Falk for Columbo! Twin Peaks tossed over for a series of detective
movies? My god, they shouldn't even be in the same category!

I suppose it's too much to expect the pinheads who vote on these
things to actually watch the shows they are voting on.

The real reason they didn't win anything is obvious. The band couldn't
play Julee Cruise if they tried.

---------- Ryan Mathews
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Well, as those of you who watched the First Season Finale again know, they
gave us a tantalizing "coming attraction" for the Second Season Premiere.
So, I thought I'd offer my thoughts about what it tells us. There's no
real spoilers here unless you don't watch the coming attractions because
you don't want to know *anything* about the next episode.

I should also point out that I'm making the assumption that both the shots
and the dialogue in this are contiguous, which is always a dangerous
assumption to make.

The preview starts out with a pan over the table covered with doughnuts,
and then changes into a shot of a giant (it's not clear that he's a giant,
but the camera angle used makes him look like one) talking, and then it
changes to someone walking towards the camera, blurred so we can't see
the figure clearly. The photography has a very dreamlike feel to it.
During all this, the giant is talking to someone, saying:

"Three have seen him, yes, but not his body. Only one is
known to you."

My theory is that this scene is from another dream that Cooper has -- or
maybe from a post-shooting delirium. The giant (it seems fitting that if
Cooper's first dream involved a dwarf, that his second would involve a
giant; maybe this guy will be listed in the credits as "Another Man from
Another Place :-)) is talking to Cooper. The "him" that he refers to is
none other than Killer Bob. That explains why some have "seen him...but
not his body" -- they've seen him in a dream or vision, not in real life.
The blurred figure does look something like Bob.

The question that remains is who are the three who've seen him?  Cooper
himself is one; Sarah Palmer is another (and presumably the one who "is
known" to Cooper). Who's the third?  One of the other cast of characters,
and we simply don't know that he or she has had a dream/vision of Killer
Bob, or someone who will have such in the Second Season Premiere prior
to this dream of Cooper's?

My other theory is that maybe the third is Margaret's log, and that Killer
Bob was the mysterious "Third Man" the log spoke of. The log is "known"
to Cooper, but it's not known to Cooper that the log saw Killer Bob.

-- "There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in my laboratory." -- RETURN TO THE FORBIDDEN PLANET (Shakespeare's forgotten rock'n'roll masterpiece) --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.enet.dec.com!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM

In article <1037@ria.ccs.uwo.ca> hekunze@watmsg.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
> >  Leland acted quite sanely in killing Jacques.

Perhaps. But he didn't *look* sane after he did it. He had his "Crazy
Leland" sobbing face on.

Leland is capable of plotting nasty things, but I still think he's
crackers.
---------- Ryan Mathews
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In article <36429@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> mathews@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU 
(Ryan D Mathews) writes:

> >Directing? Nope. Writing? Nope. Lead actor? NO! They gave it to Peter
> >Falk for Columbo! Twin Peaks tossed over for a series of detective
> >movies? My god, they shouldn't even be in the same category!

Now Ryan, be fair.  Did you watch any Columbo this season?  It was
*really* good.  It wasn't the equal of the original run, but there
was some fine stuff going on.  It's a really well-done show, and I
have a feeling that part of the reason it may have won was as sort
of a long-term recognition of Falk's talents, which are considerable.
It's one of the few shows that was consistently as good and as worth
watching as TP.

As for whether it "belongs" in the same category as TP, well, I
think that Agent Cooper and Columbo are quite similar.  They are both
enigmatic, both use esoteric methods (Coop's dreams and rocks, Columbo's
feigned naivete),both make reference to unseen female companions (Diane
and Mrs. Columbo) and both are played by talented off-beat actors. 

Of course, Columbo could crack the Laura Palmer case in about 15 minutes...

- Dan
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"Elvis was seated on the toilet, actually reading a religious book...when 
suddenly a terrible pain gripped him by his stomach and seized his heart with a
strangler's grip.  'Oh no, dear dear God,' he thought.  He couldn't move.  He 
couldn't get up.  He had to get up.  He must get up...That terrible pain, like 
swords of fire, jabbing, slitting, cutting into his stomach, and especially his
liver - it was impossible to bear...Suddenly the thought flashed through him: 
this must be like what Jesus suffered."

In article <36429@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> mathews@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Ryan D Mathews) writes:
> >
> >I just finished watching the Emmys and I am really ticked. Twin Peaks
> >didn't win a single lousy major Emmy of all those it was nominated
> >for.
> >
> >Directing? Nope. Writing? Nope. Lead actor? NO! They gave it to Peter
> >Falk for Columbo! Twin Peaks tossed over for a series of detective
> >movies? My god, they shouldn't even be in the same category!
> >
> >I suppose it's too much to expect the pinheads who vote on these
> >things to actually watch the shows they are voting on.
> >
> >The real reason they didn't win anything is obvious. The band couldn't
> >play Julee Cruise if they tried.

I was pretty peeved myself. They kept claiming that this was TV
of the 90's, a new era, yet they completely neglected the one
truly inventive show, opted for the old standbys...

Did you notice the audience reaction when David Lynch for director,
Kyle for actor-esp. him, the audience really applauded--& then
Twin Peaks for best series were announced? I could almost swear I heard a
few groans when they mentioned L.A. Law for best show....

--Anyway, who is this Midge Jones, & will Pete the Poodle have
a tete-a-tete with her? And will Josey by able to participate
with old Pete in the mixed doubles fishing tournament, & if so
will they win....

less than 2 weeks to TP-day...
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things, & I've got mine  Girl-in-the-Radiator,
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In article <1158600046@cdp> forestwatch@cdp.UUCP writes:
> >
> >There are more possibilities than those outlined above.
> >In fact, The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer--which, by the way, is
> >not the diary found by Cooper and Truman--points a strong finger
> >at Leland.  BOB is a child-abuser, someone who doesn't want "Laura"
> >to grow-up, someone who has been having sex with her since she
> >was four or five.  BOB is an anagram--like DAD it is spelled the
> >same way backwards and forwards.

An interesting idea, but I think that it is Ben Horne rather
than Leland.  She does mention throughout the book, that Ben has always
liked her rather than his own daughter. "Each time there is a party or
a get-together at the Great Northern, Benjamin puts me on his lap or knee
and sings to me softly in my ear."(pg 13)  Also,"I'm sixteen years old,
I'm a cocaine addict, a prostitute who fucks her fathers employers..."(p 167)
These passages help my suspiscions, along with the fact that she
does not seem to hold any thing or any secret against her father in her
entries.

One question, who is Harold?  This person is brought up at the
end of the diary, and is also given the diary to hold, by Laura before
she died.  Have we seen someone called Harold?  I don't recall.

CHAz


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clallen@rodan.acs.syr.edu    |-Agent Dale Cooper  FBI

According to an INC column (translates into trashy gossip column) in last
week's Chicago Tribune, Sherilyn Fenn will be featured in the December
issue of Playboy. One can probably safely assume she will *not* be the
subject of the interview........

P.S. Anybody have any thoughts on the all-too-brief preview we got to see
of the season premiere of "Peaks" shown at the conclusion of last Saturday
night's episode (on 9/15)? Looks like we've got at least one completely new
character being added to the fray. And I think the out-of-focus person walking
outside is either gotta be Laura or Killer Bob. At any rate, I can't wait for
the new episodes. Two more weeks and counting.....

John Ryder

I have no doubt much will be said of Twin Peaks' performance in
the Emmys, so I want to get my two cents worth in before the deluge
starts:

I didn't expect Sherilyn Fenn to win, although I was rooting for her;
I didn't expect Piper Laurie to win, because her role in TP is just
not as meaty as the roles of the women she competed
against (after all, Catherine is not the pivotal character
in TP).
I was, however, SHOCKED that writing, directing, set design, and best
actor did not go to TP. Did you hear the crowd's reaction when Kyle
MacLachlan was nominated - it was a roar! Sure, Peter Falk is a fine
actor, and I don't wish to denigrate him - but "Columbo" is a stale 
story now. I never could sit through a whole episode of "Columbo" because
it was too easy to predict what Falk would do. Kyle's performance had
far more humor, subtlety, and interest. . .I still can't believe he didn't
win.

As for the other awards TP lost, I think the academy chickened out and
went with "safe" choices. "LA Law" used to be an interesting, ground-
breaking show, but it's fallen into its own formula. Every episode this
season (I estimate I saw 40% of them, to be fair) seemed to deal with
strife between associates and partners over ethical issues such as
conflict-of-interest and divestment in South Africa. I don't find that to
be particularly interesting drama. While LA Law is still one of the 
better shows on television, IMHO it lacked the force and panache of
earlier seasons, and was not even in the same league as Twin Peaks.

Two last points: glad to see Ted Danson finally win for Cheers, and I loved
the Log Lady's "cameo" appearance. The only two highlights of a flubbed,
long-winded, disappointing show.

Jeff Abbott
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